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@mikeq1807

4 жыл бұрын

I have been in the Netherlands for 2 months. The video (released on 23rd March) on Dutch herd community is totally out of date. "The Dutch ban gatherings until June 1" is a headline from today. Please don't add to misinformation (or out of date info.)

@TerraRiderAdventures

4 жыл бұрын

This is so misleading because Rutte said later herd immunity is not their goal, today the gov. announced fines for people not obeying "regulations" against the virus. That includes paying fines in case of violating 1.5 meter distance keeping and other instructions given by the government. Mayors got aslo more power to enforce. So this documentary is now out of date.

@thanos4959

4 жыл бұрын

Ok then

@sergeantsavage1988

4 жыл бұрын

Vice is about twisting the narrative.

@themanwnoname3454

4 жыл бұрын

VICE News 2020(G) “Respect and dignity.” Furthermore:

This video is, in my opinion, edited in a very dangerous and misleading way to depict a situation in Holland that is totally out of context and leads to understanding the truth to be what it is not

@littlesailor1533

4 жыл бұрын

yeah

@DefneYildirim

3 жыл бұрын

Wel the Netherlands just hitted 100 thousand cases and still doesn't have lockdown, Masks, Etc, I live there and im scared that i will get corona bc they treat this so poorly, Just wait until the Netherlands hits 1 mill, They even beat belguim who had way more cases a few months ago, I do not agree with you.

@CastGraph

3 жыл бұрын

Same

@eatpawbs428

3 жыл бұрын

I stopped caring about it after I got sick. I recovered in about a month (fully), and haven't bothered with any of this.

@MHTutorials3D

3 жыл бұрын

@@eatpawbs428 I had it in March

Lord Farquaad: "Some of you may die, but its a sacrifice I'm willing to make."

@songbirdj482

4 жыл бұрын

My Sexy Beast Oh, for a minute there I thought you were quoting Vanessa Hudgens 😂.

@astralm8072

4 жыл бұрын

I've dropped that Farquaad line too many times in the recent past.

@elmenol2719

4 жыл бұрын

Astral M is being used by everyone,, don’t feel special

@ericli2936

4 жыл бұрын

At least they will not face a great depression

@majermike

4 жыл бұрын

@@ericli2936 yea both economically and emotionally

Gross misrepresentation of the actual situation in the Netherlands, if you're actually interested just do a quick fact-check

@BenchFox_

4 жыл бұрын

I've done the research, and I don't think it really is...

@annemiekdirven1973

4 жыл бұрын

My main point was that it's an overstatement. The Netherlands is doing an intelligent lock down, the way it is represented in this video, letting people catch Corona and just waiting til people are immune or die isn't exactly the case. Like the rest of the world the Netherlands is also trying to flatten the curve and limit the people who will catch Corona, there just isn't a total lock down.

@BenchFox_

4 жыл бұрын

@@annemiekdirven1973 In theory, you're right. In practice though, I've not seen one person (aside from me) wearing a mask while going outside, and life is going on like nothing is happening.

@annemiekdirven1973

4 жыл бұрын

@@BenchFox_ You're right. More people should be wearing masks. However, if the government were to tell the people to wear masks a few people would buy masks like crazy again, so the medical staff won't have masks again (and I don't think everyone will suddenly diy one)

@annemiekdirven1973

4 жыл бұрын

@John doue Quebec I don't want to send a link. Never click links send by strangers. But you can look up the original Prime-Minister's speech if you feel like it/are interested

This information is absolutely incorrect and misleading, as pointed out in some other comments. What you should also know, is that the reason our coffeeshops remain open is not because they are considered "essential" for Dutch living. At first, coffeeshops were closed together with bars and restaurants, but this turned out to be a huge opportunity for illegal weed dealers to expand their market during the crisis. The Dutch government was wise enough to re-open the coffeeshops, to prevent an increase in illegal drug dealing.

@matts_official

4 жыл бұрын

Also false information is being given about herd immunity. It's not 60-70% but it's already at 10%, there might be a higher percentage because of a new virus, but no where near 60%. This video gives false information to get a false view on what is happening. This video should be taken down for spreading false information.

@honored431

4 жыл бұрын

Then why is there only 2k dislikes?

@lucious455

2 жыл бұрын

That’s the only way to beat COVID ain’t not damn vaccine reprogramming your immune system .

I can hear Lord Farquaad say “Some of you may die, but it's a sacrifice I am willing to make” 😶

@swolegamers9504

4 жыл бұрын

interpretation 21 🤡

Not being able to go to school in the Netherlands: ...... Not being able to buy weed in the Netherlands: *THIS IS TYRANNY!*

@romalshah1569

4 жыл бұрын

Did you see how low quality the weed in the Dutch coffee shops were?

@knatt405

4 жыл бұрын

😁😏

@staysafeworld

4 жыл бұрын

Romal Shah nah it’s fire

@Grindsetillionaire

4 жыл бұрын

@@romalshah1569 which shop did you go to lol

@RaptorsHood

4 жыл бұрын

@@romalshah1569 Canadian weed >

That’s simply untrue and a simplification of how “we” treat this monster. We’re in an “intelligent lockdown”, which means that everybody is asked to stay inside. Everybody is free to do so or not. Most people (by far) follow that request! The 1,5 meter is holy, and as a matter of fact police is allowed to fine you if you don’t follow that rule.

@veduci22

4 жыл бұрын

How does it work in interiors and in vehicles? Do you really think people in China could easily stop the epidemic with 1,5m social distancing but somehow they overreacted and chose the full lockdown instead?

@globastiaan

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Jeroen M to comment properly on this misleading video.

@roy_hks

4 жыл бұрын

Insomniul China locked one city down, that doesn’t really impact their national economy. Shut the entirety of the Netherlands down and you’ll have a bankrupt country. There’s only a certain amount of time we could sustain a full lockdown, and if a vaccine isn’t provided within that time we will have to let the economy run properly again or the created poverty will lead to more premature deaths in the long run which would result in a second outbreak.

@yak2188

4 жыл бұрын

@@veduci22 Who says china has got this under control? we are getting 0 reports.

@shelly7269

4 жыл бұрын

Well this is Vice... all the crap they post is untrue

This grossly misinterpreted what he actually meant, the title and video is extremely misleading and misreprents the situation in the Netherlands. The herd immunity Rutte talks about is the same that will develop in all other countries where containment has failed and mitigation is the current tactic. Vice has workers in the Netherlands so this should have been easy to double check. This seriously damages the opinion I had of the network

@veduci22

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, Lombardy and Madrid is doing herd immunity too... With

@getosuguruu

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly. And they’re making it look like as if everyone in the whole Netherlands agrees on the herd immunity theory. What a disgrace

@danieleparmigiani677

4 жыл бұрын

@EVOL no u

@paulojrg

4 жыл бұрын

@@veduci22 Even if we should all get the virus to create the group immunity we shouldn't all have it at the same time so that each country health system has sufficient resources to mitigate the death toll on the citizens.

@nacamo17

4 жыл бұрын

Just get a less stupid PM. Rutte is such an embarrashment for the country

It’s official, when people talk about the Netherlands regardless of the topic, a portion of the discussion needs to be about coffee shops.

@Brillsama

4 жыл бұрын

*reasonable chuckle

@bettyboop-xg6jo

4 жыл бұрын

Well, that is because it is the tremendous legacy your zero important shit country will leave behind. That and your flooding the world with the opium, tulips, and exstasy pills. Oh, wait, did I mention crap cheese and pornography, human trafficking and the fact that NL is the 4th highest debt per capita in the EU. But as 60% of those capitas will get CV let's hope y'all stay home.

@releventhurt

4 жыл бұрын

@Tucson Jim i struggle with marajuana just trying to give it up to save my money and buy other things like land or a house its definitely good for fodder for animals or building material but smoking it has got to go. I agree but man it is difficult

@xxCrimsonSpiritxx

4 жыл бұрын

@OK Boomer weed doesnt kill you but it is bad for you, thc is known to induce psychosis Just an fyi

@Xandersw1

4 жыл бұрын

While it's not even the main subject in this country, yet Vice news make it look like it. Trust me, Vice did some dirty edits by cutting off fragments and understanding Dutch for only a half.

Clickbait! The comment by Rutte was misunderstood he said hisself afterwards. Of course the goal is not letting people get sick here in the Netherlands. Currently the situation is in control and there is enough capacity in the healthcare. We have a social distance policy and not a total lock down yet. Rutte meant that if people are getting sick it could be a side effect that they're getting immune. A total lockdown would mean a economical disaster for all people in the Netherlands. Of course, when the capacity in the healthcare is getting less it could be that the government says we are going in lock down. And 3 hours ago the government has announced new rules for social distaning that are even more strict. Last weekend there were some idiots coming together in parks or beach, but now that's not possible anymore and people get high fines when busted. Don't believe everything what the media is saying! This video is typically showing the stereotype images of netherlands and their coffeeshops, but you need to know that the government is taking it really serious. Their top priority is to protect the ones with a bad immune system.

@Xandersw1

4 жыл бұрын

Finally someone in the comments that understands the idea. This should me marked.

@bastiaan5506

4 жыл бұрын

This post should get more upvotes

@bastiaan5506

4 жыл бұрын

Comment :D

@goblinplunkett5752

4 жыл бұрын

The entire planet has just experienced and unprecedented economic disaster, why should the Netherlands be any different? Having a shit economy is one of those things that sucks... if you know there are places out there with great economies. When you know everyone else is in the same shitpile you're in, it's really not that bad.

@Sizomu

4 жыл бұрын

Please Like Koen Janssen's Comment to push it up more! The Title is misleading and allowing people to believe in the wrong idea. which is deadly!

So to summarize ; no one knows shit about anything at this point great !

@TritonTv69420

4 жыл бұрын

haha

@michaeljorgensen790

4 жыл бұрын

On the contrary...there is a lot that is known... it's just that it all seems to be sh!t.

@tanyapineda7212

4 жыл бұрын

Tidy summary. FK

@MJack2255

4 жыл бұрын

Still...

@MRG978

4 жыл бұрын

Well what are you doing to save the world?

I’m dutch and I’ve been isolating and keeping my distance for 4 weeks now because that is the advice! Of our government! Its bs the way it’s presented in the title!

@AlphaSigmA1

4 жыл бұрын

i am isolated a week before schools close , a month, and today i had to go out and i saw shops with clothes and shoes open and costumers inside. not everyone thinks as we do

@hillarymcdonald9954

4 жыл бұрын

PROBEER DIT: handen wassen, regelmatig baden, desinfecteren (het virus in uw omgeving uitroeien), sociale afstand nemen, in het openbaar een masker dragen (zelfs als u niet besmet bent) en zelfisolatie met symptomen. Bouw je immuniteit op met gember, knoflookstruikthee, soep, vit c, vit d zinkmagnesium, azijn gorgelen immuniteitsversterkers, grieppil en hoestsiroop (voor symptomen elk uur totdat je je beter voelt) DEEL DIT ..... ummm WAKKER !!! Je hebt een verantwoordelijkheid DOE HET VOOR DE VOLGENDE 21 DAGEN AUB

@lfvdb1

4 жыл бұрын

Die cees, nog ergens anders gescheten afgelopen week?

“Some of you may die, but that’s chance I’m willing to take”- Lord Farquaad

@glenn3646

4 жыл бұрын

That dude was a smart man short but smart man

@thomasranjit7781

4 жыл бұрын

He must be a clown

@kevanharris3883

4 жыл бұрын

I note that the people in power can try this as they have access to the best health care if they fall sick deny them healthcare and see if they are so gung ho about it

@freshnas1

4 жыл бұрын

WithAStick AngryWhiteMan nope that’s a fallacy, anyone can get sick, the elderly are more vulnerable but this virus does not discriminate unfortunately.

@ivanaguilarfuentes

4 жыл бұрын

Hahaha

Mike Tyson: everyone has a plan until you get punched in the face.

@gottalovesaurav

4 жыл бұрын

NYC Entrepreneur underrated comment

@KMcNally117

4 жыл бұрын

Everyone has a plan until you get sneezed in the face.

@globalcombattv

4 жыл бұрын

Hhahaha soo true

@puddincup9879

4 жыл бұрын

NYC Entrepreneur one of my favorite quotes!!

@Buugzy

4 жыл бұрын

Should have been the title of this video.

The differences between the Netherlands' strategy (intelligent lockdown) and a lockdown elsewhere might seem big, but in reality they are not. The strategy applied in this country is based on trust in its citizens. Instead of giving us mandatory house arrest, they give us relative freedom, but request us to use our common sense and not behave irresponsibly and put others at risk. Schools and universities are closed, and so are bars, restaurants, gyms and clubs. All events are cancelled, people work from home if possible. We are asked to stay home as much as possible and limit social contact, but we are allowed to go for walks outside. We can go to parks, but there is police that ensures popular public places won't get too busy. If you cross someone on the street, you remember to keep your distance. Gatherings of more than 3 people are banned, and if you disobey, you risk a 400 euro fine. The large majority of the population is just at home all day, voluntarily self-isolating. At the same time, the government increased the national ICU capacity from 1150 to 2400. Right now, around 1400 corona patients are being treated in the ICUs, and the number has been relatively stable for the past few days. Both the number of deaths and the number of new hospitalizations have been decreasing for the past week. This shows that the measures we have taken definitely do have effect. We are preventing deaths and hospitalizations, we are not just letting our people die. This Dutch news article shows a graph of the number of new deaths and hospitalizations. www.nu.nl/coronavirus/6044211/minder-doden-gemeld-132-dan-week-eerder-veel-minder-opnames-189.html

@venisee

4 жыл бұрын

^ Read this comment guys. This is indeed our current situation in the Netherlands.

@alvarorangel5513

4 жыл бұрын

How is this different than what the United States is doing again? We are doing the exact same thing. Some states have enacted some fines $, some states have arrested pastors for holding church services, but again I don’t see how this is any different than what the United States is doing! Maybe I’m lost. I guess we are trying to flatten the curb because our initial projections were scary.

@emmelienschillern2394

4 жыл бұрын

Flower Bee this made my day, thank you, it is 😊

@emmelienschillern2394

4 жыл бұрын

Tiago Rodrigues actually no, the death rates have been consistently decreasing! as well as the number of hospitalizations (once again). When I posted this reply 1400 patients were being treated in the ICU. Currently there are around 900 patients being treated for corona in the ICU. So cases are actually declining rather than increasing, and the measures taken so far are without a doubt effective

@emmelienschillern2394

4 жыл бұрын

Alvaro Rangel my reply did not attempt to make any comparisons between the Netherlands to the US. In fact, my reply had been written at a time when the US had barely taken any measures so far (if I’m not mistaken, not completely sure about the US situation 2 weeks ago, so note to Americans: feel free to correct me on this). This is more a reply to the critiques from other European countries that are on actual total lockdown (Italy, Spain, Belgium, etc) who were attacking the Netherlands saying we are not doing enough with our intelligent lockdown, and we are just letting people die. What I tried to make clear in my reply is that the differences in approach between countries on lockdown (i.e. not US) and the Netherlands (i.e. not US) aren’t as big as they seem, and saving lives is more important to us than anything. US is just a completely different case, and I can have a really long discussion about that, but that wasn’t the point of this reply.

The title has the same energy as: "I used the stones to destroy the stones."

@helliswar

4 жыл бұрын

I use wood to destroy stones

@Something.amiss5401

4 жыл бұрын

@@helliswar Hahaha

@thesparrowtalks5019

4 жыл бұрын

Pro gamer mode activated

@RKroese

4 жыл бұрын

@@helliswar No you don't.

@crack61616

3 жыл бұрын

gold

There's no way of practically implementing this without killing off all the vulnerable people

@Predictable1

4 жыл бұрын

I think it will eventually have to happen. You cant keep the whole world on quarantine for 6 months to a year. It's simply unsustainable.

@AbotsiHot

4 жыл бұрын

In the process, the most vulnerable will be isolated. The AGED

@darkangel13915

4 жыл бұрын

That’s probably the plan all along :(

@Predictable1

4 жыл бұрын

@You Wish Food reserves where? Are you forgetting this is a global issue? Besides, who's gonna give them for free if people can't work to pay for them?

@game2game275

4 жыл бұрын

There definitely is. People are encouraged to avoid elderly and/or sick people, people in a risk group stay at home and avoid infection while "healthy" people create herd immunity

the coffeeshops closed for like 12 hours total until they said lets open them again as the streets swarmed with dealers lol.

@Max-is4qu

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah and the fuckers asked maximum prices

@mrtambourineman6107

4 жыл бұрын

Ha! Gotta love street dealers! Big respect my dogs 🖖🤙

@RHK45

4 жыл бұрын

@@mrtambourineman6107 If this was for 3 weeks, some street dealers would have been chop sliced by now I think.

@ir0ckfartz

4 жыл бұрын

did that really happened?

@Bos2709

4 жыл бұрын

@Internet Hardcase they keep saying it not addictive 😂 can't go a day without getting anxiety and turning to street dealers

Neatherlands: “tough time never last, only tough people last”.

@MakingitinHolland

4 жыл бұрын

Yes quite literarly... hahaha :D

@martijnvandertuin64

4 жыл бұрын

Marco Antunes yap

@greatjuankenobi217

4 жыл бұрын

it’s okay they have tons of weed. 🤷🏽‍♂️

@jinhye6600

4 жыл бұрын

Tough times never last, tough people do.

@user-nd8vl7uy5x

4 жыл бұрын

Slow clap*

Everyone is gangster until the virus mutates slightly and then everyone is back up for a reinfection

@glennzlotowski8020

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@IrelandVonVicious

4 жыл бұрын

With minor mutations they will still deal with it better the second time.

@sprocket-YT

4 жыл бұрын

@@IrelandVonVicious yeah that really worked out for them during the Spanish flu........doh!

@NNichols10

4 жыл бұрын

Sprocket actually the people that contracted the Spanish flu in March were immune the mutated highly deadly strain that returned in September. They were the lucky ones.

@IrelandVonVicious

4 жыл бұрын

@@sprocket-YT It's always funny to see a know it all talk down to people when he has no idea what he's talking about.......doh!

This tactic is a gamble. This is assuming the virus doesn’t mutate or adapt.

@VlogEva

4 жыл бұрын

Ben Longwell the chance of it mutating is huge! It almost certainly will happen, but I personally do think that herd immunity is a good idea! Plus in the Netherlands there is the opportunity to try it, not too many people are 100% reliant on their jobs, at the moment everyone is expected to work from home if possible or to take sick leave which won’t get you fired and overall the government just has your back! I feel extremely lucky to live in a country with such fortune, but I also feel that we as humanity, are going to get passed this virus and I think the Netherlands could well be one of the first places to get out of this mess in a decent state!

@joshbrake3779

4 жыл бұрын

@Chooey Sooares Harldy, if the death rate is 3% and everyone here in the uk gets its thats 2 million people dead, do you really think the economy is going to boom with 2 million people missing.

@michaelclarke9722

4 жыл бұрын

@@joshbrake3779 We have more than that on the dole so technically missing,and we do ok without them.

@michaelclarke9722

4 жыл бұрын

@@VlogEva It's a risky ploy but so is crashing your economy. Who knows whether the hardships following global recession will lead to numerous deaths from a whole manner of complicated scenarios. From a healthy persons standpoint it's a good idea, for old or health challenged people, like myself to some extent, maybe not so much. However, I would prefer to get back to normal as I believe millions of us have had it already without even knowing.

@dbsk06

4 жыл бұрын

This, why is no one who supports here immunity addressing this?

The title to this piece should have been , Herd immunity - a social experiment

@danyala.1659

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly. This is a social experiment, only difference is that people will die because of it.

@jco5254

4 жыл бұрын

This is all a treasonous joke economic warfare Chinese ready to collect on the fact that they Own our national debt That the Democrats have been selling them our country for the last 30 years and they are not happy now because of the Trump 2020 it’s the truth hate it or not could care less

@Astrounwrapped

4 жыл бұрын

@@danyala.1659 People will die because of it. But it's a guarantee that a part will survive. A guarantee you don't get with isolation.

@Terov104

4 жыл бұрын

@@jco5254 just because you say "it's the truth" doesn't mean it is the truth. None of what you just said has any basis in reality

@YunqMula1

4 жыл бұрын

Danyal A. People die from regular experiments too

The Netherlands: “I used the Corona to destroy the Corona”

@shreyaseebs

4 жыл бұрын

Modern problem require modern solutions.

@MakingitinHolland

4 жыл бұрын

Hahahaha! Accurate.

@woutertje026

4 жыл бұрын

Thats the main solution how to distroy an virus

Remember: We don't know about the longterm consequences once you have been infected by the virus...

@jakeapplegate6642

4 жыл бұрын

Octobre1986 like what?

@MaruskaStarshaya

4 жыл бұрын

@@jakeapplegate6642 like damaged lungs and compromised immune system. Probably the body could shut down in a few years or by getting other non-lethal infection that will cause death on such people.

@gaughen

4 жыл бұрын

Lmao people say this also vape

@victoria11128

4 жыл бұрын

There have been official medical reports of heart damage as well as brain damage linked to COVID. Let one respiratory damage

“If you can’t beat them, join them.” Join the dead?🥴

@Daniela-pr7rz

4 жыл бұрын

In a few months, maybe more, we'll see who was right and who was wrong. It could be that no matter what you do, there are going to be lots of deaths, but huge difference in the economic field. We'll see.

@user-qq1co7qq8p

4 жыл бұрын

Imperial College London have suddenly changed their estimates on that. Now they say that the deaths will be under 20,000 and will basically be the deaths we would have from pneumonia anyway.

@ilovecops6255

4 жыл бұрын

This approach is to be expected from the porn capital of the universe.

@ellenakavarera1565

4 жыл бұрын

@@Daniela-pr7rz 500+ deaths and 3 people are cured in Netherland, i saw it two days ago

I guess they have enough PPE and healthcare workers who are healthy to work through this pandemic. Good Luck to you.

@sabinesteil4690

4 жыл бұрын

We don't :/

@harmvissers3353

4 жыл бұрын

We definitely do not

@rover335

4 жыл бұрын

Nah, we don't because of the budget cuts

@carolyntalbot947

4 жыл бұрын

@@verycool6022 The Dutch aren't alone in that behavior. In the US, states are left to thier own devices so that each governor decides whether schools and public places are shut down. Until we have a federal mandate, this isn't going to work, and Trump is taking the advice of Fox News pundits who say we should all get back to work.

@legalfictionnaturalfact3969

4 жыл бұрын

The virus is a huge scam. Makes money for the pharma scumbags and helps the elite control the people. Have heard suggestions that perhaps they're also using this fabricated crisis to roll out 5g while we're on lockdown. Other things too.

Misleading... expected better from you guys :(

Herd of humans. I think ants and pigeons must be laughing at us.

@Andy_Paris

4 жыл бұрын

Humans are animals, we're just on top of the food chain.

@doaadaraz185

4 жыл бұрын

@CarlosChip Morales how you know?? Were u an ant or pigeon??

@doaadaraz185

4 жыл бұрын

@@Andy_Paris you do realize humans are animals too right? We are only on the top cuz we have weapons and are smarter and stuff but if we didn't we would be long dead

@Andy_Paris

4 жыл бұрын

@@doaadaraz185 That's literally what I said lol

Death is so much more horrifying when you imagine it preceded by 2 weeks of no smoking or drinking.

@larrymcjones

4 жыл бұрын

Lol

@roberthouston8463

4 жыл бұрын

This is the Nerve center of the whole issues 🤔😡 And the amount of controls being excerted by the media and Tabacoo🚬 industries and various other business conglomerate's🔱👏👿's

@dothedeed

4 жыл бұрын

can't smoke if you're on a ventilator

@NoName-de1fn

4 жыл бұрын

@@dothedeed It must be possible to hook up a vape to the system somehow.

@atulanand7815

4 жыл бұрын

Aye aye 🍻

That’s great logic when you’re stoned.

@bestvibes1848

4 жыл бұрын

Ace 187 😂😂😂

@informedcitizen5890

4 жыл бұрын

@D Wise there have been numerous scientists and peer reviewed journals specifically stating that herd immunity will not work because the virus can reinfect recovered patients. Also UK tried this and now they have the fastest rate of deaths and are now reversing their strategy and shutting everything down.

@JasonAl

4 жыл бұрын

How is that wild animals are immune to it🤔.. ? If info we been getting is the truth? Maybe because it’s a handmade virus? Don’t mind me lol i am little high😂

@ekilahadi

4 жыл бұрын

Agree with that

@sherikrupp

4 жыл бұрын

Jason Al That's...not how it works, Jason.

Wonder how the older generation feels about this plan.

@Daniela-pr7rz

4 жыл бұрын

If I was part of the older generation, I would not wait for authorities playing with my life , to see if its lock down or her immunity tactics. I would isolate myself either way. So, from this point of view, it wouldn't make much of a difference. However, not getting a pension a few months from now due to a total collapse of the economy, would make all the difference in the world.

@fonkyman

4 жыл бұрын

who cares most dutch people put them in retiremewnt homes and only come abnd check when theres a holliday.. so they die alone anyway with or without corona

@user-qq1co7qq8p

4 жыл бұрын

The stats have been showing for ages that the baby boomers are the first generation to be more unhealthy that their parents were. They have not kept themselves healthy so now we have to shut down the world to protect them.

@zion3335

4 жыл бұрын

@@user-qq1co7qq8p no,..... just take a certain communist evil state to justice...and make sure it never rears its ugly head again.

@TheMaru666

4 жыл бұрын

Their health munistes has been harsh to Spain and Itally for putting elders in intensive care when needed and avaliable . He said they wouldn't do it ... so , judge ypyrself what herd inmunity can do to the most vulnerable .

It’s easy to do this when you have access to healthcare and aren’t already high risk :/

@veduci22

4 жыл бұрын

How long could even the best health care system in the world withstand the stress of building the mass immunity till it collapse because of lack of personell and resources? Just look at situation in Lombardy or Madrid after few weeks - and their population is still very far away from mass immunity...

They should just come out and say it: this is how we Dutch solve the problems of an aging population relieving the pressure on our health care system.

@roberthertz6634

4 жыл бұрын

Love it the old fashioned way. Is dying that unnatural. Its all part of the PROCESS. This ISN'T the movie cocoon. Cacoon. You know . I'm old can't SPELL wanting for that FINAL EVENT. Hope its a pleasant experience. BYE.

@roxyview

4 жыл бұрын

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@slashie666

4 жыл бұрын

Omg.... where do you get your information from? If you can even read😔.. ..

Netherlands: “Only the toughest survive, quarantine is for the weak”

@kenyaouko7388

4 жыл бұрын

😂😂 The weed keep them immune...

@RoarofdalioN

4 жыл бұрын

@Mayank LKO most politicians here are actually against the sale and use of marijuana

@renzo6490

4 жыл бұрын

Try using punctuation. It increases clarity.

@shiantimusic2363

4 жыл бұрын

Renzo thanks for the catch, I’ll go and edit that in.

@renzo6490

4 жыл бұрын

@@shiantimusic2363 - It's really two separate sentences.

They are probably right. Less suffering in the long term. They are often right. They were right all along to legalize marijuana.

@martijnvandertuin64

4 жыл бұрын

jojolafrite90 yup

@martijnvandertuin64

4 жыл бұрын

jojolafrite90 I’m glad u get it❤️❤️❤️Holland is epic 😂

@McCarthyisms

4 жыл бұрын

Love how the USA covers it, there a different people to interview you know. instead of a expert from the Dutch government they decided to interview some coffeeshop customer, because "haha" stereotype.

Vice talking out of their butts as usual. This wasn't even remotely true. Also men aren't women, deal with it.

@RKroese

4 жыл бұрын

I refer to people as XX or XY. Problem solved.

@brngsh5549

4 жыл бұрын

@@RKroese As ridiculous as that is, at least you recognize only two sexes exist, of which one half in particular is structurally oppressed and abused and therefore needs it's own definitions.

so, they have chosen the thanos snap option

Italia: Dies shot by Bullet The Netherlands: Shoot themselves so that other shots may have no effect

@leeparkdenouden

4 жыл бұрын

May*****

@bryanpineda4142

4 жыл бұрын

Lmfao I needed that CAT M this virus is crazy depressing but that was funny ass hell

@AlexAnder-rv1gu

4 жыл бұрын

That's not how viruses work, genius.

@albertorobles4688

4 жыл бұрын

I needed this laugh. Thanks 😂

@kevinclass2010

4 жыл бұрын

@@bryanpineda4142 💆🧘

This video creates such a wrong image of how it's actually here. Good job on the views Vice

@windysoulflows

4 жыл бұрын

Paul Nagy what is it actually like there?

@pauln7013

4 жыл бұрын

@@windysoulflows almost the same policy as other EU country's. Strict rules like no groups over 3 people outside and don't invite people at your house. If you don't follow the rules you get fined 390 euros

@woutertje026

4 жыл бұрын

We're also not exposing people to the virus. There where many scenarios considered, one of them being "groups immunity".

@nacamo17

4 жыл бұрын

PAUL, it is like the video says. I live in this country. Sadly.

@RKroese

4 жыл бұрын

@@nacamo17 You are an idiot, sadly.

NEWS ALERT: As of now 28th March, 4-5days from this video Netherlands is in top 11 countries of confirmed cases. Out of these 11, all countries have thousands of ppl are recovered (except UK=140), but Netherlands have 0 recoveries and 547 dead.

1:56 Its not about building up immunity right now. Its about not overwhelming the hospitals and minimizing deaths. You can have everyone infected sometime but you have to do it slow enough so you can have hospital capacity for the people who become extremely ill.

if the virus mutates you can shove up 'herd immunity' ... Eventually, that immunity might only endure a couple of months. In the meantime, some young and supposedly healthy people who got it now have damaged lungs ( i think it was a hospital in Belgium that pointed that out a couple of days ago) We simply have no clue yet what we are dealing with. People should stop focusing solely on mortality, but realize it can get really really bad even without dying - if the virus spreads to your lungs and your immunity system from one day to another decides to go shit crazy about it.

@user-xl1ni1tv4s

4 жыл бұрын

Wilhelm Greatest honestly I’m 23 I think I got it back in Early February and just haven’t had any symptoms but my lungs/chest/heart are not right and seem like it’s only getting worse and more short of breath everyday.. I got bloodwork done today and getting a chest X-Ray tmw I hope I don’t have permanent lung damage.. fucking scared man..

@lenkkraftverstaerker

4 жыл бұрын

@@user-xl1ni1tv4s until you know maybe it helps to realize that this virus is crazy dominant in the media and everywhere right now and indivudually it could be dozens of things. The report i mentioned was about young people that needed to be hospitalized early on as far as i know, meaning they had strong symptons. Best of luck!!

@BlkOnyx0508

4 жыл бұрын

A lot of survivors so far have lost up to 20% lung capacity. God forbid they get fibrosis. They will be dead in less than 10 years no matter how young or old they are.

@MissAki1

4 жыл бұрын

The virus will probably not mutate as it has a correcting enzyme which doesn't make it prone to mutation.

@jimcon147

4 жыл бұрын

@@MissAki1 There are already 2 strains, hope you are right but its mutated once already.

I'm watching this on September 25, 2020. It is strange to listen to this today with everything that we know 7 months after this was posted. Herd immunity and everyone needs to get sick...what a bunch of BS. This is a sickness you want to avoid at all costs.

The Netherlands currently has a per capita death rate that only trails Italy, Spain, Andorra and San Marino. I sincerely hope they are reevaluating the herd immunity approach.

I like how they interviewed coffee drinkers who think they know what they're talking about and then they interview a Immunology Professor who actually KNOWS what she's talking about.

@lxced.5420

4 жыл бұрын

thats what i thought lol

@liamdevine9081

4 жыл бұрын

There the coffee shops that sell weed

@davidmartineztorres8731

4 жыл бұрын

That is vice for you

@Cortesevasive

4 жыл бұрын

Do you think asking the right question will give you the truth, Do you want to know the truth ? there is no truth , Chinese gave us the propoganda number.

@sjorsvanderstelt2024

Жыл бұрын

“Drink coffee” lol

World : flatten the curve .. Quarantine Netherland : why Quarantine when you can smoke weed and fly high ..

@xrpbillionaire6270

4 жыл бұрын

We just don’t like to be locked up we like to keep our rights

@jahkgdm

4 жыл бұрын

Tayang bhutia herb immunity 🗣💨🦠💪

@allenbowling7667

4 жыл бұрын

Why not, it won't kill you

@allenbowling7667

4 жыл бұрын

@MMING Russia did it chech out Russia.no problem there.they had forknowldge

@Helloyapfammily

4 жыл бұрын

@MMING so you mean China never lied? So you mean to say that since last year they knew about this and did not try to contain it for the rest of the world to get it?

3:48 “And we have no idea...” What a great plan! 👍

@iaf4454

4 жыл бұрын

Great plan

@XDownOnYou

4 жыл бұрын

Thankfully the rest of the world knows exactly what to do right? Lol

They are doing this not for immunity, but because of economy. Thier priorities are so mixed up.

Meanwhile Elon Musk is leaving for Mars next Monday... 😂

@yoppindia

4 жыл бұрын

Ahh..but will the battery last...any charging stations on the way to Mars.

@daveykonijnenberg951

4 жыл бұрын

@@yoppindia probably not but who cares the world can go without him he doesn't got it all upstairs anyways

@Bit-while_going

4 жыл бұрын

That would explain why he already had his car sent up.

@supremesoldier354

4 жыл бұрын

@@Bit-while_going and is a multibillionaire w several successful companies and the only successful new car company that was founded after 2000

@majermike

4 жыл бұрын

at least hes not going to Sars

I guess this is what Italy has been trying to do.

@puffpuffpass3214

4 жыл бұрын

@August Cawiezell if im correct they rank 2nd best. But it still wasnt enough

@Amghannam

4 жыл бұрын

@@puffpuffpass3214 Italy second best? Italy's healthcare system better than Germany, Scandinavia, UK, Benelux??

@CandyBlog

4 жыл бұрын

Chillocybin yes Italy’s health care better than Germany and the UK and usually ranks the 2nd best... even then Italy wasn’t able to handle all the overcrowded hospitals

@thebobsagetguy

4 жыл бұрын

@@CandyBlog unequivocally false

@MrClaudioAgostini

4 жыл бұрын

@@Amghannam Yes, it's better because they at least try to save people's lives. You let thousands of elderly people die hoping in herd immunity, which is not even scientifically proved.

He's not washing his hands correctly. The soap has to cover his hands thoroughly for 20 seconds in order to 'dismantle' the virus.

As a Dutch person moved to the UK, I can say that we have a waaaaaaaaay better health services then the NHS. I don’t remember ever waiting to see a doctor in the Netherlands. They have more employers I think. Everytime I needed to see a gp in the UK it took soooo much time and efford that I kind of found out that the NHS Will only actually help you directly when it’s life threatening.

This video didn't explain the Dutch strategy well. The prime minister Rutte named 3 options we could choose. The first would mean doing nothing and letting everyone get the virus, this would lead to a shortage in IC spots. The second would mean doing a complete lockdown but in that case you don't build up any immunity and cancelling the lockdown has a great risk of the virus coming back, so it could take a year. The third would mean social distancing, so all the bars and restaurants close and everybody is expected to stay at home, especially the elderly. The strategy here is to let young people get it because they can handle it. Once you've gotten it already you can't get it again and you won't infect other people. This video made it seem as if the Dutch chose the first option instead of the third

@Isabella_MRP

4 жыл бұрын

Overhemd you can get it again tho

@montinyek6554

4 жыл бұрын

Isabella Panizza very very unlikely

@elumarsouza337

4 жыл бұрын

There is no immunity to the coronavirus other than the vaccine. The Netherlands is wrong.

@SnowtigerVIL

4 жыл бұрын

@@elumarsouza337 Thanks for the information doctor expert

@kathrynt5899

4 жыл бұрын

The problem is, they don't Know for Sure if you CAN build an immunity to it.

2:25 - *To put this into perspective, that 1% in the UK is about 400,000 people that would potentially die*

@Arcadiez

4 жыл бұрын

400k chads?

@Karthik110193

4 жыл бұрын

I think the true mortality rate is lower because of many asymptomatic people

@pepchristian

4 жыл бұрын

death rate for young people is lower than 0.2%... as soon as enough young people build immunity, the virus goes away

@pakde8002

4 жыл бұрын

To be honest if this doesn't get them the flu or other complication would likely do so. It's harsh but I look at my aunt who is 90 years old in poor health and nearly once a month she is in hospital for three or four days and when she is at home she's constantly suffering. Wouldn't it be a blessing to end it quickly? I would think so if it was myself in her situation.

@Lisa-oj9oe

4 жыл бұрын

Christian BP Plus, you can lock down the most at risk population such as the elderly and those with underlying health conditions while letting the young and healthy build up herd immunity.

The Netherlands will be remembered as the country that gave up.

ISnt this what we tried in the uk but are now living to regret it

@timobrenn

4 жыл бұрын

as was mentioned in the video, its a different country and therefore the situation is different

@carlateixeira5575

4 жыл бұрын

It will happen the same here. I live in a small village in NL and it's like nothing is happening only restaurants and schools are closed but the rest it's running like always. Unfortunately we will see the results of this stupid strategy. Stay home and stay safe

@carlateixeira5575

4 жыл бұрын

@@timobrenn it's the same virus

US: self quarantine everyone. Netherlands: *natural selection*

@AJ-cv9zf

4 жыл бұрын

Proving the dutch are smart. Good times = Weak men Bad times = Strong men

@Peekarica

4 жыл бұрын

Spag, you know that Sweden is 100% open? They are doing the same, bars, schools everything is open in Sweden. Life goes on there.

@painisvergina3693

4 жыл бұрын

I’m all for natural selection, USA needs to do this

@spr6577

4 жыл бұрын

@Adam Fullhan no one mentioned the word evolution explicitly

@ViaMirage

4 жыл бұрын

Don’t forget your ‘to go’ weed!!

They don't seem to be factoring the virus hability to mutate and the fact that even some people who recover, do so with permanent organ damage

@Prototyp3m1nd

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, watching the videos talking about how it honeycombs parts of your lungs makes me definitely not want to sign up for the virus.

@AlecTronicGames

4 жыл бұрын

I feel like our government knows, they are just mocking up facts so that we wont blame them for fucking up

The Dutch economy will be the only one to survive, this is generally the best thing to do

@victoria11128

4 жыл бұрын

Yay! The Dutch and the Swedish will have a great economy with part of their workforce left with permanent health issues

Problem,reaction ,solution...when they accomplish what ever they had planned they will give us the medicine or the virus will surprisingly disappear.

@rumples2698

4 жыл бұрын

we,ll be queueing up for the " vaccine "" !! bill gates " JOB DONE MASTER "

"The measure of civilization is our attitude to the weakest" - John Paul II

@majermike

4 жыл бұрын

was he the molester one?

@camillac5276

4 жыл бұрын

👏👏👏

@zacatecano114

4 жыл бұрын

ragnarokPL truth 🙏🏽

@ericmcleanistheman

4 жыл бұрын

ragnarokPL Ah I gotcha....so what's the last charity you donated to again?

@jeanvandorst4287

4 жыл бұрын

@@majermike No he wasn't a girly man. They like to infiltrate wherever they can find boys. The priesthood was an ideal opportunity. Free food, free housing and free alter servers. They were doing each other before they even became priests. Best of all, they gave their (perceived) enemy a huge PR nightmare.

It’s a great idea, but some people who were cured actually got infected again, suggesting the antibodies didn’t really develop as expected, which might make this herd immunity a dangerous experiment

@nikimabloome7023

4 жыл бұрын

Once you have a virus it can always come back. It in your blood.# facts

@krupaturner2264

4 жыл бұрын

Absolutely & the virus is mutating faster then we can understand it😔

@maplenerd22

4 жыл бұрын

@karim lavji - He said antibodies not antibiotics. Your immune system create antibodies to fight viruses.

@keirfarnum6811

4 жыл бұрын

karim lavji Antibodies, not antibiotics. Antibodies are part of the immune system that resists an infection. When someone survives an illness or gets a vaccination, the body produces antibodies that confer immunity. Basic science. Perhaps you should work on your reading skills.

@QANGOR

4 жыл бұрын

That's bc about 14% of cases they get 2 strains of the viruses simultaneously. 1 strain is mild (usually attack first) then you get better for about 1.5 weeks and BAM! you get slammed by the 2nd strain like a train with chest pain, etc...usually go to the lower lobes of your lungs as well. Ventilators do not work either. ECMO machines are best. Both machines are scarce and expensive and need specialized nurses.

Dutchman here. We have already dropped the idea of implementing 'herd immunity'. Critics called it "playing with human lives". When you need 60% of the population to have contracted the virus, before the herd immunity (or group immunity as we call it here) starts to take effect, you're talking about of a lot of casualties in the meantime. It's simply not a sacrifice worth making. The best strategy was and still is self-isolation to flatten the curve. It sucks, but it's the only way to contain the spreading of the virus before it goes out of control, or until a vaccine arrives.

When I hear such inhumane, insane, subanimal, absurd things, I thank God I was born in a Mediterranean country in Southern Europe.

@timobrenn

4 жыл бұрын

the Netherlands is not mediterranean

@WestCountryGurl

4 жыл бұрын

@@timobrenn That was his point.

@timobrenn

4 жыл бұрын

@@WestCountryGurl whoops, my dyslexia read "wasn't"

@p-y8210

4 жыл бұрын

This video is misleading. Everyone is at home schools are closed. Ony essential shops are open. Vice did a very bad job

Sickness for Thee but not for me "typical politicians"

@Hijab_Diffusion

4 жыл бұрын

this's good time to rid those in power,

Herd Immunity is the ones that die do. Nobody that has not caught it is "immune" from catching it.

@NoJusticeNoPeace

4 жыл бұрын

The idea is that you allow those most likely to survive and recover to get sick. That way those most likely to die -- the old and those with weakened immune systems -- can stay indoors out of harm's way until the virus dies out for lack of anyone to pass it to, at which point it becomes safe for them to emerge.

@Extraterrestrialhighway

4 жыл бұрын

No one is going to be immune from this after catching it once. Are we immune of other corona viruses? No. Is there a vaccine for any of the other coronaviruses? No.

Netherlands minister of health has criticised Spain and Italy for admitting old people for intensive care when it is avaliable , that they wouldn't do it . Portugal prime minister called his speech disgusting .

When Vice News Lost its mind!

Letting people deliberately die, while not even knowing if it is going to work is criminal.

@ceciLOVEtaco

4 жыл бұрын

Letting ppl die

I am dutch, locked in spain for 3 weeks and shocked that even today i need to warn my dutch friends of the seriousness of the matter. In a week or so holland will see italian and spanish situations and than panick. Very dumb tactic. Lockdown, stay in and stay safe and healthy

@kcs4212

4 жыл бұрын

@Ben Ghazi "does nothing but help the healthcare system not to implode"... funny use of the word "but"... maybe its a GOOD thing NOT to implode a health system? I heard stories how other sick cannot even be helped, think of heart attacks etc. I think a lock down defo helps amd glad the spanish took so swiftly rigorous action.

@karhu96

4 жыл бұрын

Indefinitely? Eventually you will have to chooce between small business owners, poor workers and single mothers who can't survive an economic shutdown. Or sickly elderly with several pre existing conditions and several people with immunodeficiencies. You can quarantine the latter groups for much longer with little economic effect but not the former without destroying their lives. Good job Netherlands I say.

@mih2965

4 жыл бұрын

@@karhu96 are u crazy? Don't u see what is happening in Italy or Spain?

@peaceandjustice3575

4 жыл бұрын

Ben Ghazi You’re telling me a lock down will cause healthcare care to implode yet the fucking stupid herd immunity strategy that you support will only make things even worse for the healthcare system, because a huge amount of the 60-70% who are infected will need healthcare at some point, which will only exhaust the healthcare services.

@mih2965

4 жыл бұрын

@Ben Ghazi Italy had great health system. And u cannot lockdown only old ppl. They often live with younger family members.

And clearly whatever they did worked, the curve there is like 97% flat

At 1:15. That is the most ridiculous hand wash I have ever seen.

@jamkop5298

4 жыл бұрын

This country is full of people washing their hands like that. I strongly believe that a majority of this country it's citizens has massive amounts of e-coli bacteria on it's hands and fingers, because washing like that is not going to take care of these bacteria.

@nitinkumar7329

4 жыл бұрын

@@jamkop5298 yes. True.

minister of social services:”we have too many old people, our budget will collapse” minister of health:”i got you bro”

@howardmckeown7187

4 жыл бұрын

it ain't just the old ppl

@evie8078

4 жыл бұрын

I hate Machiavelli and no,not everything is justified. And I hate people who think like this.

@vasiovasio

4 жыл бұрын

@@howardmckeown7187 exactly and so many people think that everyone under 65 just take it like a flu, but its not the case, Covit19 its dangerous and many people died from pneumonia...

@AIEmpire

4 жыл бұрын

Apart from the trillions they have spent to prop up the economy. Use ya brain lad.

@denisemaryheatherington5820

4 жыл бұрын

the virus mutes and affects the younger too .

Certain provinces in The Netherlands are running out of hospital beds. The Netherlands will be the next Italy. That's why we (Belgium) are closing the border.

@johndoeing

4 жыл бұрын

only one province is, and we are actively spreading the sick over the other provinces. We'll be fine because we have a great healthcare system and only 10% of cases need medical attention.

@Doawzz

4 жыл бұрын

Bro als je gaat reageren doe eerst ff een fact check want nu ben je bezig met fake news

@FlaxeMusic

4 жыл бұрын

@@johndoeing We'll see how that works out for you guy's in 3 weeks.

@WombatKnul

4 жыл бұрын

This is simply untrue. Belgians are mad at our great infrastructure.

@alexanderdrees4702

4 жыл бұрын

@@johndoeing highly doubt it, however good luck

Why would the Such do such a thing ? Letting the people get sick is criminal.

The covid-19 mortality rate is currently at 3.45 out of 100. Given the Dutch population is 17.5 million, that's a maximum death toll of 600.000. It is a lot, but not as high to be putting the future existence of the Dutch nation at risk. They'll survive.

I just read an article out of China a few days ago that people are catching it mult times (no immunty) which kinda throws a wrench in the whole herd theory.

@thatsnodildo1974

4 жыл бұрын

Well china also is one of the most polluted places on the planet. I imagine half of those people have a immune system similar to a AIDS patient

@yoppindia

4 жыл бұрын

that is what happens if you sit at home, killed by the boredom.

@usrnotfound1859

4 жыл бұрын

If people can catch it multiple times than a vaccine would not help. It would be impossible to ever contain, ever.

@MegaBallPowerBall

4 жыл бұрын

Tom Servo Those were people who should not have been released from the hospital as they hadn't fully recovered. Once you are recovered you are immune at the moment. We don't know how long yet but we do know the other Coronaviruses give immunity for 1-5 years depending on the coronavirus and the individual.

@pauljohnson9698

4 жыл бұрын

@You Wish W A N ker

I’m sorry but not trying to contain a virus and hoping social distancing will do it’s work not overload the healthcare system is exactly what some US stated and the UK did before it backfired. Call it what you will, but I see this as a blatant sacrifice of the elderly and immunocompromised who now have to deal with their government giving up on them.

@rutgerb

4 жыл бұрын

If you want to be harsh then wait for the moment their health care is overloaded. Its not the US or UK, they might cope.

This video is very misleading. The Dutch policy is mostly driven by two factors: science and intensive care capacity. The PM and the National Institute for Public Health and the Environment set out the policy and whilst doing this closely check whether there is enough intensive care capacity. Currently, the total capacity amounts to 2400 IC beds of which currently 1324 beds are taken. At this moment the number of people taken to intensive care is becoming less. Apart from that, the fact remains that the Netherlands is mostly in lockdown. People are staying at home. Cafe's, bars and restaurants are closed. If people go outside to hang out together they get a fine. Nursing houses are closed. Nobody can go in and nobody can go out. Whether intelligent lockdown will work in the end? I have no clue. I am not a virologist or anything related. I just listen to Jaap van Distel, the head of the National Institute for Public Health and the Environment and a professor. But let's not jump to conclusions. We can only determine whether the English, Swedish, Italian, American, South Korean or Dutch strategy has worked or not after the virus has been eradicated entirely.

Now imagine trying this approach with the most diabetic overweight population in the world where a good portion has zero access to healthcare - USA.

In these dark and quiet times in our moments of isolation, we must not forget that we are all humans at the end of the day. This thing affects all of us, regardless of our identity. We're at a moment in our lives where we can communicate like none before. The key to our species success was always our ability to communicate with one another and share knowledge. Let's use that same intelligence to once again outsmart our opposition. Band together, we got this! 💎

Until it mutates.

@wardjacobs3189

4 жыл бұрын

It's not a virus likely to mutate, and even then the mutation would have to be specifically in the virus epitope that the antibodies of immune people recognize. So this is not a healthy scenario to think about

@mister40five88

4 жыл бұрын

@@wardjacobs3189 bill nye the science guy over here lol

@Locutus

4 жыл бұрын

The mutations would be minimal. It's not a virus to mutate greatly like the flu and cold.

@moaiadaljamal4422

4 жыл бұрын

@@wardjacobs3189 you are wrong. Coronaviruses are some of the fastest to mutate. There are some people who got sick then recovered only to get sick again by Covid-19 I welcome you to do a bit of research.

@louisbourbon8973

4 жыл бұрын

That would be frightening. Imagine this thing mutating every year like the flu.

And has anyone tried to infect someone again to see if they are immuned in a high care unit or lab rats etc.

@junbh2

4 жыл бұрын

You can't do that kind of experiment on humans (if it didn't work it could be murder) and animals are different enough it wouldn't answer the question. However if we wait long enough we'll find out because people will get reexposed just by bad luck.

As of 13th April, 2823 dead in Netherland, don't think it's working very well.

@victoria11128

4 жыл бұрын

The figure is much higher than that unfortunately. They don't test all deaths in hospitals with COVID symptoms and they don't include the deaths in nursing homes or at home

Kind of like mom's measles party.

@bunnywabbit61

4 жыл бұрын

😄😄

@bestvibes1848

4 жыл бұрын

Lindalee Law 😂😂😂

@marty01957

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly! When I was little and my mom heard my cousins had the measles, she took us to visit them!

@sirih4085

4 жыл бұрын

@@marty01957 I mean, it is more deadly if you get it as an adult than if you get it as a child. At least if you get it in your childhood you become immune.

@sirih4085

4 жыл бұрын

@Tucson Jim you're talking abou SARS 2019 or 2003? I stopped checking on it cause I found that it only makes me panic

The only cough I want... is from that sweet sweet Ganja !!! 🤣

@lordbeerus6182

4 жыл бұрын

My man

@outlyfe7570

4 жыл бұрын

Lol

@AM-fb3cf

4 жыл бұрын

Ah yes, the cannabis virus.

@lordbeerus6182

4 жыл бұрын

@Hue Man hahahaha that be hilarious ASF

@mordinsolus9507

4 жыл бұрын

​@Hue Man I think it does help.I was very sick for 3 months starting in December with an un diagnosed respiratory illness all corona symptoms. I smoked a lot of weed despite the pain and man it helped me out pain tolerance wise. I Had Pleuritic Pain in my chest that went away almost completely after smoking, Man i hope it actually does help and it was not all a coincidence. making me look mad haha.

If you get infected don't sit at home go to the rich neighborhood supermarkets and spread it.

And the reason these economies don't go full lockdown is because their economies are fragile. Just goes to show how close to end we are of seeing western dominance in the world

How cliche.. to interview weed shop owners when you do an item on the Netherlands. Sigh..

@theirine17

4 жыл бұрын

Like interviewing employees of the Times Square Olive Garden when doing an item in NYC

@vukhuathuy2866

4 жыл бұрын

might was well, y'know

@yakuza01

4 жыл бұрын

Hey, it was either that or a shop where the sell those wooden shoes. So pick your poison.

Other countries:- we need to immediately lock down and ask our citizen to self quarantine Netherlands:- we will just smoke weed and chill

@sharkfinn4

4 жыл бұрын

Sweden: The Netherlands, but without weed.

@zippydodahquirk9039

4 жыл бұрын

People will die when the economy collapses. It will cause disruption in the supply chain. How will Granny get her insulin when the supply chain is screwed and the economy collapses? People aren't thinking this through.

@lhaviland8602

4 жыл бұрын

@@zippydodahquirk9039 EGG-ZAKTLEE! You just brought my thought of the past two weeks into focus.

@zippydodahquirk9039

4 жыл бұрын

@Ryan Lee So why destroy the economy if Granny will die anyway.

The problem in Netherlands are the insurance companies. It is too expensive to treat people so this is the best way to save money. simple as that. They don´t care about people who die, if they save 1 euro.

Much better to give people a choice to brace for infection if they go out and be prepared for it than to enforce an absolute mandatory lockdown and not expect mental health of entire populations to suffer

This sounds insane. I hope for their sake it works.

@Mii.2.0

4 жыл бұрын

@Dr Downtime Please, prove it.

@sneakypeaky6000

4 жыл бұрын

@Dr Downtime this virus has an extremely low mortality rate....

@ALEXIUSBEATS

4 жыл бұрын

Here’s a proof. m.kzread.info/dash/bejne/o5utztJshMeXcto.html

@aaappie

4 жыл бұрын

@Dr Downtime bro proof it

@Nitalla_Creates

4 жыл бұрын

They have about 350 deaths and about 6k cases so far. It's not looking too good

I’m not convinced herd immunity is the answer because we don’t know if you actually become immune yet

@nomads7978

4 жыл бұрын

Elegantly Wasted Vaccine take about a year to make according to CDC. Herd immunity amongst population of 350 Millions in the US. Even with 60% getting it to get herd immunity. It means 210 M will get it. Hospital will be overflown and death % will be close to what Italy is dealing with all hospital bed above carrying capacity. 9-10% meaning 21 Million people will die in the country.

@xavarrowww6

4 жыл бұрын

@@nomads7978 its only 21 million tho, thats nothing

@slimrudy2133

4 жыл бұрын

If we didn't we would all

@nomads7978

4 жыл бұрын

Netluxe TV In this hypothetical scenario in which 210 Millions need to be infected to gain this herd immunity will break US medical system. All I’m stating is that rough estimate of death rate could be 9-10% when there is no hospital to treat older people. It should be more since the US has a lot of unhealthy and older flock. BTW 16% of total US population are senior citizen, 10% of people have diabetes and more than 30% are obese. These are just some common sense math. You should use it once in a while. Good day :)

This says so much of a country, i.e. its leaders and some of its people, that accepts thousands of their fellow citizens dying by not trying hard enough.

If this is true, then it is just plain irresponsibility on the part of government. Especially considering that reinfection is not being ruled out. I feel very sorry for the healthcare workers and vulnerable groups over there.

So.... make up your mind Netherlands, is it “herd immunity, don’t prevent sickness” or “quarantine to prevent healthcare collapse” LOL Herd immunity will come with TIME and we need that time to get a vaccine. Flattening the curve is the only answer and the faster it is done the more effective it will bez

@kevinp401

4 жыл бұрын

Quarantining the high risk people only, would be the way to go. You flatten the curve while at the same time building herd immunity amongst the young. And no sending the economy into a depression.

@pale_saint

4 жыл бұрын

”Herd immunity” is a fancy word for genocide

@Andrea-ef9qm

4 жыл бұрын

so you are willing to shut down everything and loose your job waiting for a vaccine that's going to be made available in 18 months? sure, I would love to see some anarchy

@Powertoolz

4 жыл бұрын

@@kevinp401 we don't Know if letting everyone get sick and possibly die saves the economy either. The virus could kill/injure a noticable portion of population. Too many sick at same time would be terrible.

@usrnotfound1859

4 жыл бұрын

If u have a good enough healthcare u dont need to flatten the curve too much

Something tells me they’re just going about this the lazy way.

@user-mz2tw8yk8o

4 жыл бұрын

The lazy way is staying home away from others, and it's more effective.

@meesert

4 жыл бұрын

Well we have pretty good healthcare and this way its less harmfull for our economy. if there is one thing we Dutch like more then weed its our economy :p

@carpo719

4 жыл бұрын

No it is actually very effective if done right, the virus is not going away, and the longer we delay it the worse it can be long term. We have to compare that with slowing the curve, it is a balancing act. Even virologists agree that we have to have a certain amount of cases before anything will get better, if we hide away that slows it so we can handle the cases, but it is NOT designed to stop people from getting the virus eventually. It is a waiting game.

@user-mz2tw8yk8o

4 жыл бұрын

@@meesert so making millions of people sick at once and unecessarily straining the healthcare and killing thousands? Did these politicians go to clown college or something?

@meriemfadli5381

4 жыл бұрын

@@carpo719 but the problem is that, for herd immunity to work there needs to be a vaccine first, the best option is to go on lock down just to help menimize damage cauzed by the virus

So sad that they had to interview coffee shop owners. The Netherlands is not just about weed guys! Also, our government is not letting people get sick. We have to stay inside like all other people do. I find this video to be very biased and misleading and it makes me doubt the Vice documentaries I have see so far.

@coenvanwinkelhoff2070

4 жыл бұрын

@Saida Agourram Nee zeker niet! Ik denk alleen er een eenzijdig beeld van NL wordt neergezet.

@coenvanwinkelhoff2070

4 жыл бұрын

@Saida Agourram lastig te zeggen. In dit geval heb je zelf er een beeld bij omdat je hier vandaan komt. Van Noord Korea weet ik niets dan wat journalisten publiceren.

@coenvanwinkelhoff2070

4 жыл бұрын

@Saida Agourram Ja. Bizar hoe dit dus werkt.