told you jon wasn't dead.

@jimbo-fk4dq

6 жыл бұрын

SB Nation Now people can stop whining in the comments... Who am I kidding, that'll never happen.😂

@mikeprew1733

6 жыл бұрын

Jon is the reason 99% of us subscribed. Give us more of him!

@SoupwithSeafood

6 жыл бұрын

welcome to college football saturday

@Kittyapoc

6 жыл бұрын

Bradley P the reason why they are great is because they take time. Rather have these monthly/bimonthly/ yearly videos than just be flooded with meh content

@taipeijoey101

6 жыл бұрын

Indeed you did

“A 16 seed has never beaten a 1” said Jon as five days later a 16 proceeded to beat a 1.

@Annihilasian

5 жыл бұрын

said Jon, correctly reading off every Powerball number from a lottery that was supposed to happen 3 years into the future

@alexremoll2771

5 жыл бұрын

Also Buffalo won a tourney game

@willdawg0053

5 жыл бұрын

lol

@thomasmaddox1002

4 жыл бұрын

A BroadHumor and now UVA are the defending champions

@timengers

4 жыл бұрын

Never been more proud to be a UMBC alum than that night lol

So much has changed since this vid came out. 2 16 seeds won and the nationals made a World Series run.

@Marylandbrony

9 ай бұрын

Paradoxically the most “normal” year was 2020. Tom Brady and Lebron James both won championships. Alabama won another football championship over Ohio State and regular season powerhouses Los Angeles Dodgers and the Tampa Bay Lighting both won their championships. With the Dodgers facing the Tampa Bay Rays another regular season powerhouse and the Lighting facing the Dallas Stars, If anything the most unusual part was Tom Brady winning a Super Bowl right after changing teams, both NHL teams coming from the former Confederacy (Which never happened before) and of course no crowds.

@jonathannathan1754

3 ай бұрын

But nothing really changed. Those 16s still got bounced.

@Huckle15

2 ай бұрын

@@Marylandbronyalso it was a bit cool/odd that the 3 had Tampa bay teams in the championship

@SortaNonymous

2 ай бұрын

Also the Blue Jackets finally won a playoff series in 2019 when they unexpectedly demolished the Lightning -(My sincere condolences to Winnipeg Jets fans, especially since the Thrashers never did anything for them to fall back on.)- Forget that, the Jets also won a playoff series, and with both the expansion Golden Knights and Kraken already winning playoff series in their first two years, now all 124 teams in the big four leagues have moved on at least once.

[Stares directly at Oral Roberts on the winless list] "Aight"

@rubikscube178

3 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

@vincentflask2965

3 жыл бұрын

Buckeye fan here and this hurts

@oldaccount1254

3 жыл бұрын

[looks at Oregon State] wait, really, well not anymore also (2021) Rutgers North Texas Texas Southern (kind of) Houston

@aircowpig

3 жыл бұрын

And Oregon state and rutgers

@baconlettucepotato3726

3 жыл бұрын

more names off that list as of 2021: (*play in game victory) oregon state (2021) houston (2022, 2021 & 2019) rutgers (2021) north texas (2021) oral roberts (already mentioned here) (2021) texas southern* (2021 & 2022) drake* (2021) ucf (2019) liberty (2019) uc irvine (2019) wofford (2019) fairleigh dickinson* (2019) belmont* (2019) umbc (2018) buffalo (2018) marshall (2018) prob missed some. tell me which ones if thats the case edit: it's 2022, and two new teams have joined the list 15-seed st. peter's (2022) 16-seed wright state* (2022) also updated houston and texas southern to have a 2022 win

“Nationals never won a playoff game” Me here post 2019

@maxschaeffer7228

3 жыл бұрын

we won games before that just never a series

@ryansmuck5365

3 жыл бұрын

Same with the browns now haha

@karatekid9644

3 жыл бұрын

Me a blue jackets fan just waiting

@RoellKell

3 жыл бұрын

@@karatekid9644 what are you waiting for? CBJ swept Tampa in 2019...

@Xhoven

3 жыл бұрын

ALL of the teams Jon mentioned in this video (Nationals, Blue Jackets, Winnipeg Jets) won a playoff series since this video was released. There are now no teams in the four major sports without playoff wins!

Virginia definitely watched this before the game

@thewrench0157

3 жыл бұрын

Was this the upset to UMBC or when they won the whole damn thing the next year?

@flabermaber2239

3 жыл бұрын

@@thewrench0157 idk

@georgegilmore8265

3 жыл бұрын

They are the one

@nate_storm

3 жыл бұрын

@@thewrench0157 pretty sure it would be the upset? unless i completely forgot about a march madness after uva won

@_jcm

3 жыл бұрын

Same with the Washington Nationals, not only winning their first playoff game but winning the World Series

Damn, Oral Roberts and St. Peters must be terrible in March Madness every year

@--------8453

2 жыл бұрын

& u posted this after The Peacocks busted EVERBODIES brackets!

@calebos268

Жыл бұрын

and Fairleigh Dickinson what noobs

@Pr0t4t0

Жыл бұрын

And Princeton

@ironcouger9257

Жыл бұрын

Don’t forget UMBC imagine naming your team the ReTRiEvErs

@hiimemily

2 ай бұрын

​@@ironcouger9257 they got that dawg in them

You've missed a glaring reason as to why the 8 or 9 gets an easier team in the Sweet 16 than the 4 or 5. Because to get to the Sweet 16, the 8 or 9 has to have BEATEN the no 1 in the round just before, so they will never play the no.1 in the Sweet 16. Look at the statistics for the Field of 32. I haven't seen them, but I can almost guarantee that the 8 or 9 team has the worst winning percentage in that specific round because they always play the no 1 team. The whole tournament is specifically designed so that the 1-8 seeds make it to the Field of 32 and 5-8 get knocked out, then 1-4 make it to the Sweet 16 and 3-4 get knocked out, etc. Looking at the winning percentage of a certain placed team in one specific round is always going to give you these sorts of statistics.

@thehardcount1399

3 жыл бұрын

exactly what i was going to comment

@lonejay8725

3 жыл бұрын

and that’s why you always have to look at statistics with a grain of salt. You can manipulate almost any set of data to make it fit your point

@ALY-xc7fl

3 жыл бұрын

4-8 get knocked out before the sweet 16 but yes everything else is correct. Likely that you made a typo.

@Seanlkins

3 жыл бұрын

He specifically said the best path is to stay far away from the 1 seeds

@bearinpinkk5072

3 жыл бұрын

Yes but thats in theory what they want to happen. Almost every year at least one 1 seed falls to an 8 or 9 seed since their the Cinderella of the tournament. By having them play a more equal opponent in the sweet 16 rather than reseeding it gives the allusion of hope. Before losing to a 2 or 3 seed in the elite 8.

When this vid is outdated after six days bc of UMBC

@sportpersona9986

6 жыл бұрын

Gaming Jham facts

@nnnullllllll

5 жыл бұрын

Buffalo and Marshall too

@x15tian

4 жыл бұрын

Idc but had to like since there was 666 likes

@evanvaslow4981

4 жыл бұрын

And the Nationals have a playoff win too 0:45

@sciurbs5787

4 жыл бұрын

Go Jags

"#1 seed first round win %: 100% #16 seed first round win %: 0%" *coughs*

@DeadRabitt77

5 жыл бұрын

Jets never won.... *coughs*

@PennRail

5 жыл бұрын

+Jeremy Quiros No longer- UVA, a 1 seed lost to a 16 Seed Coughs

@isaacwen7167

5 жыл бұрын

Timothy Reilly r/whoosh

@carolinewall3678

5 жыл бұрын

Jeremy Quiros That’s not correct you loser

@moula5674

5 жыл бұрын

Jeremy Quiros 1% now

I'm back now that every professional team has won a playoff series

@pacoramirez7363

3 жыл бұрын

Technically no NFL team has ever won a playoff series.

@willwiegelman3953

3 жыл бұрын

@@pacoramirez7363 Technically it's a 1-game series

@furretwalky

Жыл бұрын

@@willwiegelman3953 wait no nhls new team the kraken

@willwiegelman3953

Жыл бұрын

@@furretwalky I commented this before they began play

@tbdotwav6963

2 ай бұрын

​@@furretwalky I know you're probably aware of this now but the kraken have now won a playoff series

Coming back to this video during 2022 March Madness and not even seeing St. Peter’s on the beginning list speaks to the tournament’s bewildering randomness

@calebos268

Жыл бұрын

they are, although you might've missed it because they are listed as Saint Peter's, not St. Peter's

@popularyutuber

Жыл бұрын

FDU now

"The king has returned."

@alastairtrasler-brown8197

6 жыл бұрын

Long live the King!

@6thwilbury2331

6 жыл бұрын

:) :) :)

@Amerik7347

6 жыл бұрын

Hail to the king!!!

@bludgeonedfate708

6 жыл бұрын

Here here

@admc8

6 жыл бұрын

dcbandnerd I

*Sees another lame KZread notification* *Glances at it unenthusiastically* "SB Nation just uploaded a video: Something something Chart Party" *Panics and rushes to see the return of the legend*

Cross Oakland, James Madison, and Grand Canyon off the list.

@user-nv3eh6ni6b

2 ай бұрын

and FDU, Florida Atlantic, Oral Roberts, UMBC, and St Peters

@Tangerinehistory

Ай бұрын

and Rutgers, Oregon State, Marshall, U.C Irvine, and North Texas

That’s cray that the Wpg Jets, Blue Jackets, and Nationals ALL won last year. SUCH LOW ODDS!!!!!

@davesmith4646

4 жыл бұрын

Rob Fowler the Jets lost first round last year, but they won a round in the year prior

@extrabfbmm2127

3 жыл бұрын

And the blues and the nats won their respective sport title (Stanley cup, world series)

@flyhalfjack

3 жыл бұрын

@@extrabfbmm2127 blue jackets not blues

I see a Chart Party....then I remember why statistics still matter.

@prim16

6 жыл бұрын

Tomoko from Watamote :)

@TheLeo1400

6 жыл бұрын

STATS ARE FOR LOSERS Except for Jon's stats, those are coolio

@calumrf0211

6 жыл бұрын

stats are pretty good

@rodimusmaximus3912

5 жыл бұрын

How do I make my parents stop fighting

Theoretically, anyone can win the NCAA basketball tournament. All you have to do is win all your games. However impossible that might seem, theoretically, you can do it. There are many college football teams who cannot win the college football playoff. Not even if they win all their games. Because some committee says so. Give me the dream.

@vaughnshinkus4178

5 жыл бұрын

Very true! This is probably why, (in my opinion) despite all of it's passion and excitement, college football is inferior to college basketball.

@noahdempsey3329

5 жыл бұрын

In college football theoretically everyone has a shot too. If a say MAC team like W.Michigan decided to schedule non conference games against Alabama, Clemson, Michigan and won them all and then won the rest of their games they could have a shot at the playoffs however unlikely still.

@vaughnshinkus4178

5 жыл бұрын

Noah Dempsey An excellent point. Wish their was more of that.

@noahdempsey3329

5 жыл бұрын

@@vaughnshinkus4178 yeah I completely wish that teams would schedule harder opponents. I guess some B1G teams do such as Mich vs ND and last year OSU vs. Ock but i wish more teams did it more often because right now it is impossible to say the SEC is better than B1G, that Clemson is better than Michigan because not only do they not play each other they don't even play teams from the same pool of teams

@vaughnshinkus4178

5 жыл бұрын

Noah Dempsey It’s like you have to wait for bowl season to see a quality inter-conference games!

In 2020 everyone lost in the tournament.

@spol

3 жыл бұрын

😭

@roycedutch1

3 жыл бұрын

March Sadness

@Randomvidsometimes

3 жыл бұрын

Hopefully it will happen this year

@williammerkel1410

3 жыл бұрын

@@Randomvidsometimes hopefully it goes ahead, our team was one of the few that won their conference tournament before things got shut down and so didn't get to go, it looks really weird seeing the banner hanging up that has 2020 as a year where they won the conference but 2020 is not on the banner that has their big dance appearances.

@Randomvidsometimes

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah that must be really weird my team would've made it too

Just an update, the Jets AND Blue Jackets have now both won in the NHL playoffs, making the Nationals the ONLY professional sports team to NEVER advance in the playoffs.

@hiimemily

4 жыл бұрын

And at least in the Jets' and Jackets' cases, they've only been around for about 20 years. The Nationals have half a century of play, no postseason series wins, and no excuse.

@scottflynn4054

4 жыл бұрын

hi i'm emily to be fair the expos did win a series in 1981, but the nationals club hasnt won a series ever (but again its only 14 years)

@Jackherbert10

4 жыл бұрын

Oof lightning

@fredfredburger3611

4 жыл бұрын

The NHL has also added a 31st team in that span who also has playoff success to their name.

@lucasng4712

4 жыл бұрын

Nats be winning

Jon, of all the praises sung for Chart Party, here's one I don't see often: the 90s office/muzak feel is incredible. I don't know why it fits so well, maybe it makes me feel like I'm a pencil pusher in some magnificent universe of sports KZread content, but it's just brilliant.

@iii-ei5cv

6 жыл бұрын

agreed. his choice of muzak is great

@Solwiz

6 жыл бұрын

TheMaykarLocomotive personally, I've been wondering what song he uses as the de facto chart party 'theme' for ages

@nathanrobinson1099

5 жыл бұрын

I'm throwing out Kenny G.

@dloental

2 жыл бұрын

@@Solwiz Looked it up...Love De Luxe by Keith Mansfield. So good.

@Solwiz

2 жыл бұрын

@@dloental i found it about a year and a half ago but i appreciate the dedication to reply to a 3 year old comment haha

Ain't no party like a chart party 'cause a chart party is both informative and entertaining.

don't mind me, just casually rewatching for the 50th time since it's almost time for march madness I did realize though that due to conference tournaments where basically every team plays, come the end of the season, out of over 300 D1 schools...only one (or maybe a few more) schools end the season with the win...the rest, all end the season with a loss...Harsh.

@Refill_2

2 жыл бұрын

its 2 because of the nit, right?

@tyroland06

Жыл бұрын

@@Refill_2 Don't forget the CBI!

0:21 Oral Roberts was hiding in plain sight the whole time

Basketball is my favorite sport. I like the way they dribble up and down the court.

@Benjamin-lq1sf

6 жыл бұрын

Mark Jones just like I’m the king on the microphone like dr.j and Moses Malone

@willwalaska7613

6 жыл бұрын

I like slam dunks take me to the hoop

@maxj02

6 жыл бұрын

My favorite play is the alley-oop

@jacobcockerham8034

6 жыл бұрын

I like the pick & roll. I like the give and go.

@Matt-io8cx

6 жыл бұрын

Mark Jones and the way the hit the touchdown. I love air hockey.

My father has come back

@enderderp4139

6 жыл бұрын

G-Money I

Whoever is watching this video in 2019 the Nationals have now won a playoff game

@briaryos1

4 жыл бұрын

And as of October 31, 2019, they now also have a championship.

@niebsmooey9038

4 жыл бұрын

David Horowicz world aeries

@sameehshafi5723

4 жыл бұрын

As of March 38, 2234, they are the first team to incorporate robots in their starting lineup

@TheBrainSpecialist

4 жыл бұрын

Now all 123 teams have, until Seattle comes into the NHL in a couple years

@notfelix5106

4 жыл бұрын

The blue jackets also won a series

This is also what makes this tournament so great. It is arguably the hardest tournament to win.

@Matteogt25

4 жыл бұрын

Idk NHL is pretty tough and upsets always happen as well

@kylethomas2993

4 жыл бұрын

It's much harder to win the NCAA their are 353 division 1 teams. Its not easy to even get in the tournament

@krcjayhawks

4 жыл бұрын

@@kylethomas2993 not to mention it's a single elimination in a sport that, like hockey, is a series in the professional version.

@JC-mb1jm

Жыл бұрын

​@@Matteogt25 NHL is. Bullshit and boring I could literally sleep through a whole game

this is the only reason I have notifications on

the reason re-seeding is bad is because if the worst team upsets the best team they've EARNED the right to play what would have been the top team's easier bracketed opponents. If you beat #1, you become #1, in essence.

@absolutelyrandomful

6 жыл бұрын

That's actually a really good point

@verde7595

6 жыл бұрын

Rfranklinz45 No. If Team A has a 2-13 record and they beat Team B with a 12-3 record, the records don't switch. Team B will certainly drop in the ranks, but to immediately call Team A better because of one game is ludicrous. The Browns beat the Chargers last year, but they were not better than the Chargers.

@juliusbanks6936

5 жыл бұрын

They were better than the Chargers on that day. The amount of weight you think that should hold is up for debate, but on that day the Browns were better.

@carolinewall3678

5 жыл бұрын

Frona We aren’t talking about the regular season

@Loxu69

5 жыл бұрын

No how almost every tournament works is if you are a shitty seed you have the toughest road. you have to fight the best teams in the league and if you didnt want to do that you shouldve done better in the regular season. The reason why the worse seeds fight the better teams is because it rewards the better teams for doing better in the regular season AND it stops teams from losing intentionally, example lets say that if you used the logic of if you beat the number 1 team you become number 1 so you lose intentionally to become 16th seed even though you are nowhere near a 16th seed, hey now all you gotta do is beat the number 1 seed and you have an easy road. This is why reseeding is necessary.

0:19 *Florida Atlantic* just got into the Final Four.

5 years later one of those teams that never won an NCAA tournament game just made it to the final four

The goat of youtube is back

@GerritCoulter

6 жыл бұрын

Our Lord and Saviour, Jon Bois.

@maxmcquide7147

5 жыл бұрын

He left again

YOURE BACK ITS BEEN SO LONG

It makes sense though that a weaker seeded team will have an easier time post sweet 16. They would've already had to defeat a 1 or 2 seed (in the case of seeds 7,8,9,10), prior to the sweet 16, so the most difficult opponent is out of the way

Bernie Sanders: it is unacceptable that the top 4 pah-cent of March Madness teams account for 58 pah-cent of Final Four berths. Under a Sanders administration, the top 4 pay-cent will pay their fair share of losses

@jacobnewman3444

4 жыл бұрын

You sir, are acquire the funny

@Hi-ie9zi

3 жыл бұрын

Peak comedy

@Empr4evr

3 жыл бұрын

On a more serious note, if Belmont and Davidson had money and resources to recruit players the way a Duke or a Kentucky, and so on, you might see an improvement in the percentage of schools who have been to a Final Four. But, then again, a certain school winning the NCAA tournament isn't anywhere near as vital as say a fixing healthcare system that exists purely for profit, so, whatever.

@rubikscube178

3 жыл бұрын

@@Empr4evr also coaching matters when recruiting, and big-name bluebloods like Duke and Kentucky have big-name coaches that are also better at recruiting in general.

YESSSSSD MORE JON BOIS

@dawsonpauley2827

6 жыл бұрын

Nifty Noldog i

@nevsimmons3508

6 жыл бұрын

Nifty Noldog I

The reason an 8/9 plays a weaker seed than the 5 in the sweet sixteen is because they already beat the 1 seed just to get there. They played a stronger seed in the round of 32. They’ve earned it haven’t they? Now you reseed and make them play a 2 seed the very next game?

@playinetgames

6 жыл бұрын

Yup, that's what you do. That's what the NFL does too. If the #6 seed beats the #3 seed, they face the #1 seed. If you want an easier road, you should do better in the regular season.

@matthewthemilkbender8095

6 жыл бұрын

playinetgames that’s why college basketball is better than the nfl

@playinetgames

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah, no. You can have your opinion on whether basketball or football is a better sport, but the March Madness system is objectively flawed and worse than the NFL's playoff system. *Both* are flawed because they are single-elimination instead of a best-of-X series, but March Madness is more flawed than the NFL. If you perform better in the regular season, you should be rewarded with an easier road to the championship. If you sneak into the playoffs as the bottom seed, then you should have the toughest road since you clearly weren't definitively a playoff team to begin with. This is a meritocracy, folks. If you're better, you're rewarded. If you're not, you're not.

@matthewthemilkbender8095

6 жыл бұрын

playinetgames March madness is 10 x better than the nfl

@playinetgames

6 жыл бұрын

That is your opinion. I respect your right to have that opinion. You can subjectively prefer one to the other, but do not let your biases blind you from objectivity. The NFL's system (regardless of whether you prefer it or the NCAA) objectively makes more sense than the NCAA's system.

Who noticed that UMBC is in the right colum of teams who have never won a round of 64 game

@albertsimba

5 жыл бұрын

This video was made before they won last season

"Reaching the Final Four is virtually impossible, eh?" - Loyola Chicago

@namavoid3266

4 жыл бұрын

Glad somebody mentioned them

@kyleparnell7317

3 жыл бұрын

South Carolina

Jon bois is literally the best part of sb nation

@marchenoir44

6 жыл бұрын

Literally

*sees buffalo on the list of teams that have never yet won in the tournament* Welp this is already outdated

@Marylandbrony

5 жыл бұрын

And UMBC

@nachoalvarez7171

5 жыл бұрын

And marshall

@kylelarsen9908

5 жыл бұрын

and houston

@arkx.5365

5 жыл бұрын

@@kylelarsen9908 Ikr, Houston has been to the national championship game before, like wtf.

@LeviathanStorm38

5 жыл бұрын

@@arkx.5365 Don't forget Wofford and UC Irvine

I was wondering why a 5 seed has never won the tournament but lower seeds have. And now i realize its because they run into the 1 seed in the sweet 16 every time

0:20 Farleigh Dickinson. Another name stricken off the list.

Ain’t no party like a chart party

The double digit seeds end up with an "easier" path later on in the tournament because if they can mount that first big upset, they basically jump into the higher seeds path. A 13 plays an easier game in the 16 because they're not suppose to be there, they took that spot for the 3.

@o_sch

Жыл бұрын

Yep. Also if a team does beat the 1 seed or 2 or 3 then they may just be better than they are seeded

Keep coming back to this video every year to see how many teams i can cross of the list lmao In 23: belmont(first four),buffalo, farleigh dickinson, fau, houston, liberty, marshall, north texas, oregon state, oral roberts, rutgers, st peter’s, semo (first four) tamu-cc(first four) ucf, umbc and wofford. Crazy how many different teams win each year, and how new teams either promoted from d2 or former contenders falling off take their place among the losers

Take Fairleigh Dickinson off of this list!

*Sees Chart Party, clicks without thinking*

Finally, I found Jon Bois.

What if the NCAA intentionally mis-seeded teams to create upsets because: 1.) upsets are better for t.v. ratings 2.) upsets destroy a lot of brackets thereby reducing the odds that someone will win whatever bracket challenge some company is doing

@vaughnshinkus4178

5 жыл бұрын

Sam Brown You must be dumb. He’s not talking about some office bracket challenge. He’s talking about major corporations that offer large sums of money to people who enter contests and fill out the bracket 100% correctly. “I can’t believe I have to explain this to an actual adult.” His theory actually makes sense. Upsets are better for business.

@krcjayhawks

5 жыл бұрын

They don't do it for that reason, they do let teams slip or gain a seed to set up a chance at a rivarly game or rematch in the later rounds. That's why you saw Wichita St in KUs bracket like every year, along with a team that has upset them in the past more often than not. Matchups. Not upsets.

@patrickhiggins5970

5 жыл бұрын

That happened a few years ago with Syracuse

@gazamidori2866

5 жыл бұрын

The odds of picking a perfect are so small that it will never happen. Fake seeding or not

@imamasome

4 жыл бұрын

Vaughn Ryan Shinkus are you kidding me? The games with the best ratings are the games that are suspected to be close because that’s likely to be the best games. The NCAA is a non-profit organization so yes they actually don’t care about a companies bracket system, also these companies bracket systems didn’t exist when the NCAA tournament system was made.

Teams that have now won a game that were on this loser list: Oral Roberts, UMBC, Houston, North Texas, Oregon State, and Rutgers. This is just off the top of my head.

@alexschleppe5043

2 жыл бұрын

Don't forget about Abilene Christian

@mehspongebob926

2 жыл бұрын

and St Peter's

@Marylandbrony

Жыл бұрын

I hope soon Towson will leave this list as i'm going their in the fall.

CAPITALISM JON BOIS. IT REMINDS ME OF CAPITALISM. I AM SOUNDING OFF

@epsteindidntkillhimself69

4 жыл бұрын

Communism is the very Definition of failure.

@AndreyChichagov

4 жыл бұрын

@@epsteindidntkillhimself69 only a fool believes this

@epsteindidntkillhimself69

3 жыл бұрын

@Jonathan Stiles First of all, its a joke. Its a reference to Liberty Prime from Fallout 3. That's one of its dialogues. But second of all, I don't think you understand what a straw man is. A straw man is when you construct a faulty opposing argument to misrepresent your opposition. Stating an opinion on something is not a straw man.

@epsteindidntkillhimself69

3 жыл бұрын

@Jonathan Stiles I mean I don't think many smart people would ever argue in favor of communism, but capitalism is a very flawed system as well. I just think you're taking this "discussion" way more seriously than anyone else. My liberty prime quote was a joke, and OP could very well have been a joke as well. I wasn't responding to him as if he made a serious critique of capitalism because he didn't. That's why I was confused about the 'straw man' thing. I thought you meant that my comment was a straw man of communism, not a straw man of OP, because OPs comment doesn't really seem serious and we weren't engaging in a real discussion.

@spol

3 жыл бұрын

Well actually we all win with capitalism because we get to choose what we want without someone telling us otherwise. But yes being a big winner in capitalism is often an illusion.

I came back yesterday from a 2 month break of sb nation. No Jon Bois. I was disappointed. And then this happened

This needs a Redux or update of some sort. Its still MOSTLY true but a few MAJOR things have happened in 6 years

@DolFan316

Ай бұрын

I was wondering why that list of seeds who won after reaching the Sweet 16 didn't include 15 seed St. Peter's!

After 2017, here are the teams that proceeded to win a game in the March Madness Abilene Christian (2021) Buffalo (2018) Fairleigh Dickinson (2023) Florida Atlantic (2023) Grand Canyon (2024) Houston (2021) James Madison (2024) Liberty (2019) Marshall (2018) North Texas (2021) Oakland (2024) Oral Roberts (2021) Oregon State (2021) Rutgers (2021) Saint Peter’s (2022) UC Irvine (2019) UCF (2019) UMBC (2018) Wofford (2019) If there are more teams that I missed, let me know and I’ll edit the comment

@Nitro55555

8 ай бұрын

Abeline Christian made their first D1 tournament in 2019 and then won their first game in 2021. Also Gardner-Webb (2019), Hartford (2021), Grand Canyon (2021), Longwood (2022), Bryant (2022), and Kennesaw State (2023) all have made tournament appearances and have joined the list of schools with no tournament wins

@ashkechum101

8 ай бұрын

And two of those made the final four (Houston and Florida Atlantic)

@ashkechum101

8 ай бұрын

@@Nitro55555 it’s also funny that Houston appeared in the final four multiples but they’re last time until 2021 was in 1984, the year before it expanded to 64 lol

@patrickbelzile256

2 ай бұрын

You can add Duquesne, Grand Canyon, James Madison, and Oakland from this year, too.

@lukestrzalkowski7112

2 ай бұрын

@@patrickbelzile256Duquesne actually won a game before the one in 2024. Their last March Madness win was in 1977

One issue with comparing the 8/9 seeds versus the 4/5 seeds in the Sweet 16. For an 8 or 9 seed to even *get* to the Sweet 16, they would have had to beat the #1 seed already. So complaining that they have an easier road after the first weekend is true but a bit disingenuous.

The problem with basing the argument on the fact 8th and 9th seeds do better in the sweet 16, is that you're pre-selecting for teams that necessarily already played and beat the 1 seed. So that means that they're better than the average 8 or 9 seed, and also that they already have had a harder route than most teams.

And now Saint Peter's gets their first Dub in the Field of 64

Some important notes, per chart at 5:10 - In 33 seasons, there are 660 seeds 6-10 and 128 made the Sweet 16, giving them a 19.4% chance of getting there. In 33 seasons, there are 396 seeds 3-5 and 174 made the Sweet 16, giving them 43.9% chance of getting there. And to make the Elite Eight, it's 7.4% for seeds 6-10, and 15.4% for seeds 3-5. Considering the average seed of seeds 6-10 is 8, and the average seed of seeds 3-5 is 4, you'd expect around half the chance of seeds 6-10 making any given round vs. seeds 3-5. In fact, the actual odds, as shown above, are LESS than half as good for seed 6-10 to make either Sweet 16 or Elite Eight than a seed 3-5. This does show that talent is just a slight bit top-heavy, which to me is unsurprising. All this chart shows is that IF....and it's a big IF....IF a team seeded 6-10 makes the Sweet 16, they have slightly better percentage odds of winning THAT PARTICULAR game than any seed 3-5 in a Sweet 16 game.....but they make it so much less often, it doesn't even make a significant dent in the overall odds of making it to the Elite Eight. It's definitely a parity-booster, as evidenced by the slightly better relative odds of seeds 6-10 vs. seeds 3-5 in making the Elite Eight vs. the Sweet 16 (19.4% / 43.9% = 0.44, 7.4% / 15.4% = 0.48). Stats are fun.

DADDY'S HOME

Okay I'll bite. March Madness is the American Sports equivalent of the Hunger Games.

@ericrakestraw664

6 жыл бұрын

Except the losing side isn't killed!

@keatonott8634

6 жыл бұрын

well, not literally

@SimuLord

6 жыл бұрын

Chart Party by District, showing just what an outlier the 74th games were.

@adamklaits6379

6 жыл бұрын

Which itself is an allegory of capitalism and cheap entertainment

@fromthehaven94

6 жыл бұрын

Nobody gets eaten alive by extremely fake looking wild dogs.

Who’s here after Farleigh Dickinson beat Purdue?

@samuelbach1631

Жыл бұрын

Not me

@kevrides5706

Жыл бұрын

@@samuelbach1631 but I am.

@samuelbach1631

Жыл бұрын

@@kevrides5706 seems doubtful

Almost forgot to watch this again this year

I hate the idea of re-seeding teams midway through a tournament in any sport at any level. The random/luck/chaos found in sports helps keep it so exciting. A 16 upsetting a 1 deserve the 8 or 9 they get next.

@researchinbreeder

5 жыл бұрын

tillapasta All three of those elements directly take away from skill though. Competition is supposed to be structured to REMOVE those elements from the equation, so the best team wins.

@mattdenton6569

5 жыл бұрын

I dont think you could do brackets either...which has a lot more people watching this crap

@itsthekid9815

5 жыл бұрын

You are trading the best always winning for excitement. Also does the 8 or 9 seed deserve playing the 16 seed? Does the 1 seed deserve playing the 8 or 9 seed because they beat a 16 seed? The reason I don't like reseeding if someone won more games than the other team doesn't mean they are better. If curry and Durant go out for half the season and end up the 7 seed and win they could be the best team but they hurt the 1 seeds chance now how of good to the wcf because of reseeding. Seeds don't tell the whole story of everything that happens. You give this "reward" to a team for regular season success but it doesn't mean much. Just going with the seed is a lot clear and a whole hell of a let less confusing to casual fans. Ncaa is a lot different because if a player gets injuried they don't come back most of the time. Since it's the way it's been it's better to not mess with the system as if you do and it backfires it's worse than what you had.

@DanCicala

5 жыл бұрын

I've always wanted to see a league experiment with giving the highest seed a choice in who they play.

@DarkKnightofHeaven

5 жыл бұрын

Best team winning every single team is why the NBA playoffs are so frequently considered boring. There's zero element of chaos to add challenge to the best teams so the best team almost always wins. First seeds win a good 3/4s of the time. Only two teams below a 3rd seed have ever won the nba title. This is why the mlb playoffs are so fun and the nfl playoffs. NHL is also fun since the best team almost never wins (the presidents cup curse). The best team winning in the nba isn't so bad if it feels competitive but it hasn't for a long time as a whole so nothing feels truly fun about the nba playoffs. I haven't watched since the Warriors won their first ring. I skipped all but the finals of next year and skipped everything this past year. Chaos is fun.

COMRADE BOIS! I KNOW WHAT THIS TOURNAMENT REMINDS ME OF!

@daveenglish107

3 жыл бұрын

Capitalism

@brandonporter8509

3 жыл бұрын

I was gonna say meritocracy where they tell you that you just need to work harder to benefit and hope your boss notices. Then I realized it could be a reminder of gambling specifically the lottery just gotta Keep That hope alive. But honestly I would compare it most to a sweepstakes where you theoretically have just as much a chance. To hope and that hope gets you invested. Either way it ends up being the hope of progressing from a lower class tax bracket to a higher one. So yep. Capitalism is the great scam (communist music intensifies)

@QueenFondue

3 жыл бұрын

@@brandonporter8509 My first thought was the American electoral system, actually.

@4und4zich

3 жыл бұрын

@@QueenFondue yeah, it works this way to protect the interests of capital...

@EMETRL

3 жыл бұрын

i cant tell if yall are trolling but the whole speech about "hope" was clearly a reference to the hunger games

2:20 Sometimes a very good team gets derailed by an injury to one of its better players. The 06-07 Wisconsin Badgers were a top-5 team through almost the entire year, then Brian Butch broke his elbow against #2 Ohio State. That Wisconsin team was a 2 seed and had its season end in the Second Round to 7-seed UNLV (which promptly got showed the door in the Sweet Sixteen by Oregon and Tajuan Porter). 30 wins and out; it was a bitter ending to a very good team.

WHOS HERE AFTER #2 KENTUCKY JUST LOST TO ST PETERS?

UMBC has taken themselves outta the loser machine

That ending. My goodness this man is well versed in every subject. Jon you truly are a god amongst men

Who's here after the FDU win against Purdue?

A 16 seed can have an easy route bc if they win in 1st round, they get the path a 1 seed is supposed to get

Well hey, everybody, we've got a fax.

Re-seeding is absolute bullshit. I hate the concept. If a 16 seed manages to upset a 1 seed, don’t they deserve to stay on that easier path?

@willowandluka5302

6 жыл бұрын

Whoever this guy is, he’s just mad that University of Maryland Baltimore County beat Virginia and screwed his bracket😏

@lukekowalski

6 жыл бұрын

Cole Lutz HA! I picked UVA to lose in the Sweet Sixteen! ....................to Arizona

@willowandluka5302

6 жыл бұрын

Luke Kowalski haha that’s how it goes

Jon, please do Chart Party full time. It is the best thing on KZread, and you owe it to yourself to keep producing this incredible content

It reminds me of every single cup competition ever! Everyone can enter, but very few teams has a legit chance at winning!

No. Not a familiar concept at all. Now I'm off for an evening of eating truffle fondue and throwing coins at the poors.

@gregg_w

6 жыл бұрын

MailOrderClone what

@qdg.productions

6 жыл бұрын

Gregg Wilding sarcasm.

@ZhangtheGreat

6 жыл бұрын

Why would you throw your hard-earned coins at the poor? Make them earn it too by having them do something that gives up their dignity!

@conquistadorito

5 жыл бұрын

“the poors” lmfao

JON BOIS

That music at the beginning... it's like I'm entering a film noir scene. I love it.

I think I’ve left basically this same comment on all your other videos, but I *love* that mournful melody that begins at 1:00 (or maybe 1:01) and ends at around 1:15 You have good taste in music! This time, I will read the credits at the end of the video, so I can find out where this tune of lovely sadness came from.

The curious thing for me is the 10/11/12th seed increases in win rate in the round of 32. The 10th seed has to beat the 7th seed to advance to the round of 32, then will face the 2nd or 15th seed. Since the chart shows how low the win rate for the 15th seed is in the first round, it will be almost always the 2nd seed. Yet somehow the win rate for the 10th seed actually increases against the 2nd seed. Meanwhile, a 14th seed team has to beat a 3rd seed to make it to the round of 32, then faces a 6th or 11th seed, yet the win rate decreases for this 14th seed from the first to the second round.

@harrywang6792

Жыл бұрын

I think, it's usually because which teams actually get the 10-12th seeds. Usually 6-8th seeds are at large bids for schools from larger conferences that barely qualified. whereas 10-12th seeds are schools that are conference champions from mid-smaller conferences that had a strong season. So 10-12th seeds are usually very capable teams, it's not as large as a opening round upset as the seed line suggests.

Just an update at 0:36. The Winnipeg Jets not only won a playoff series, but made it to the conference finals. The Columbus Blue Jackets shocked the world by beating the Tampa bay lightning in 4 last year. Lastly, the nationals not only got their first playoff win, but they got a World Series. So, officially, every team part of the four major sports have won a playoff game. 122/122 teams are winners in a playoffs game. Makes the NCAA look worse 🙂

@0xx0_Lester

3 жыл бұрын

and even ravens uses browns history in the 60s to 90s , still they won against steelers.

I watch this video once every three months just to remind me how incredible it is. THIS IS MY FAVORITE VIDEO ON KZread.

Man, I’m really glad I discovered your videos. Great stuff!!

Oral Roberts changed that lmao

Watching this in 2022 during St. Peter's run.

My alma mater's basketball team, the Winthrop Eagles, went into the tournament as an 11 seed in 2007, where they proceeded to beat 6 seed Notre Dame to become the first Big South school to ever advance to the Round of 32. As of 2023, this is still the only tournament game they've ever won.

Time to cross off St. Peter’s from that list.

But an 8 or 9 would have already beaten the 1 in order to make the sweet 16. That's their reward

Gonna have to delete this after that umbc win

I absolutely love the 90’s feel and look of chart party. It’s wonderful

Being a Colgate fan they came sooooo close this year to beating Wisconsin. Only losing by 7.

15 and 16 have lower 'difficutly' to the finals since they beat the first or second spot, in their first round to advance. From there, all the strong opponents are no longer in their bracket; since the number 1 seed would have the easiest matches (and hence, the teams which are nearer to the bottom). So if you, as a low-ranked team, beat the number one seed, you get to play teams which may be better, but it should be the 'next worst team to survive', which will be near your own seed level.

@payngobuddy3

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for saying this. Jon's over here tryna make it look like some kind of conspiracy

@ilRosewood

6 жыл бұрын

This is also why 8/9s have an easier "path" in the sweet 16. They already beat a #1.

@wanpakudanpu

6 жыл бұрын

My dad always says, "if you beat the one seed you become the one seed."

@hiimemily

6 жыл бұрын

Well, now we can see how that plays out. Good luck, UMBC.

@Loxu69

5 жыл бұрын

This isn't fair to teams who are seeded higher though. They did better in the regular season so they should earn the right to face easier opponents. Just because you beat a 1 seed doesn't automatically mean you are now the best and deserve an easier pass through than people who are seeded higher than you. Every other tournament knows you need to reseed to keep things fair except march madness apparently

OAKLAND UNIVERSITY YOU CAN CROSS YOUR NAME OFF THAT LIST!!!!!

In your initial list, "Towson University" hasn't been "Towson State" since the 90's...

This could be said for Loyola Chicago they played a #6, #3, #10, #9 on route to the Final Four

@manuginobilishair5662

5 жыл бұрын

All seeded higher than them

I'm a simple man, I see a Chart Party video, i click.

ok this is great but why is greatclips haunting this video

@jacobherz9454

6 жыл бұрын

MONEYYYYYY

@QuarrelsomeLocalOaf

6 жыл бұрын

A spectre is haunting Chart Party, the spectre of affordable haircuts.

@alexanderbateman5581

6 жыл бұрын

Haircuts don't come from a chain brand, they come from a sweet asian lady who has their own barber shop down the street that you've been going to for 35 years.

@cameronmcguire4332

6 жыл бұрын

Alexander Bateman you complain about SBNation laying people off but then you complain when they need advertisements

@SimuLord

6 жыл бұрын

Because those of us with hairlines like Bruce Willis (ignore the avatar, it's from 2006) don't need to spend a lot of money to have almost nothing cut.

With the stats for the big four: by the end of 2019 the only MLB team to not win a series now has a championship, the two NHL teams have won at least one series each, and a new NHL team entered the league and immediately won three series.

"We don't have a show called Fart Wars." yet