The Mystery Revealed: Universal Allegiance To Christ
Biblical Evidence For Christian Universalism: The Mystery Revealed: Universal Allegiance To Christ
The Following Topics Are Discussed:
Summary of the “Evidence For Universalism” series on this channel.
The conclusion drawn from the biblical evidence.
Isaiah 45: “Every knee will bow and every tongue will swear allegiance.”
Philippians 2: the worship of Christ will be embraced by everyone in heaven, and on earth, and under the earth.
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Discussing Universal salvation. Following the universal King.
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There needs to be more Churches that promote Universal Salvation rightly divided from the Holy Scriptures/Bible. If there was a group of believers in Brisbane Australia they would get my vote and support. There is becoming an uprising in this holy and pure doctrine that is from God, for more is yet to be revealed for those who have overlooked it dear fellow believers. We have this doctrine because the worldly wise have heresy. Shalum/Peace
Thank you brother, your work is very much appreciated.
Great work brother !!! Aamen... one day... ALL will see HIM, AND CONFESS HIS LORDSHIP, FOR THE GLORY OF GOD THE FATHER, IN THE HOLY SPIRIT, and then ALL IS RESTORED !!!! Act. 3: 12 - 21, Fil. 2: 5 - 11, 1. Kor. 12: 3, ext.
Yes my friend, as scripture says "test the spirits" and those in genuine persuit of truth will find it. You do a great job with your expositions, and hey! keep it going. Thankyou....
I just came across your channel and I thank God for you my brother, I’ve been seeking the truth about Universal Salvation in Christ for a couple of years now and I’m happy to see a new face who is also studying this. I’m seeking to learn what some of the earliest church fathers preached and Apokotastasis, is by far one of the more amazing and fascinating things that I’ve had to come to grips with. Keep going!
@orthodoxuniversalist
10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback! Great to hear about someone else discovering this in the church fathers!
Please continue to do more videos.
Jesus’ own words concerning his death, resurrection and ascension, confirm the scope of his salvific mission. This beautifully bridges the gap between Isa 44:23 and Philip 2:9-11. John 12:32:- And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw “ALL” people to Myself.”…… Emphasis added. Jesus carried out his Father’s will/desire 1 Tim 1:4 and Paul clearly understood the “scope” of God’s salvific work through Christ. It’s a shame that most of Christendom doesn't. Peace.
Thank you for your work. Another good, inspiring video. Keep it up. You know, its always confuses me, when people say that God is absolute and perfect in all regards, and yet, for some wierd reason, he is uncapable to do, what he said he wans to do. And hows everyone says that Universalism is the "broad path that leads to destraction" without considering that, for the longest time, was a minority view that gets prosecuted for litteraly no objective reason.
Thanks for sharing the truth with logic and love. I am guessing you might receive some flack about this, and I pray that you can inspire others to see the truth that you share. I admire your courage.
@orthodoxuniversalist
8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback and encouragement!
Welp, just finished this series in a day lol. Looking forward to your next! And I'm going to go back now and watch your objections series. Such polished and well thought out series! Keep it up you'll quickly become THE source for believers in Universalism. You've already discipled me greatly and I'm looking forward to growing and learning with you in the future
@orthodoxuniversalist
10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the encouragement and feedback!
Prepare the way of the Lord, for we shall love !
Thank you for this series ❤
Excellent concluding presentation of the Real Biblical Good News! Your last concluding remark reminded me of the wonderful book "The Inescapable Love of God: Second Edition - Thomas Talbott" I was so impressed by the first addition I bought the second just for the updates. Thanks for your ministry, Blessings
@orthodoxuniversalist
6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the encouragement!
Excellent, clear presentation.
Thank you so much for this! This is so very Beautiful!!!
@lifestyleisa
4 ай бұрын
This is false information and universalism is not taught in the scriptures. When Jesus was talking about judgment, on that day, he teaches us that some will be kicked out and casted away into outer Darkness. There's no reconciling this with the idea that is false of universalism
Hosaha 13:16
Brilliantly explained.
Unfortunately it says every knee SHOULD bow, not will bow. I am now converted to Universalism but I have to face truths like SHOULD not will squarely and with honesty
@orthodoxuniversalist
5 ай бұрын
I appreciate your commitment to the details. There are definitely many texts used in defense of universalism that should not be used. In this case, however, the implications are decidedly universalistic - especially as they would carry, in Paul’s mind, the same force as Isaiah 45. Thanks for the feedback!
@alwaysadawg6488
4 ай бұрын
I wish the wording was more definitive. But check out Revelations 5:13. It clearly indicates that, one day, all creatures will praise the Father and tbe Son. God bless!
I think you would really appreciate the last 1/3 of the book “Surprised by Christ” by Fr Bernstein. (Yes, a priest with Jewish last name) Well, you’d likely enjoy the entire book, but the last third may be of particular interest.
@orthodoxuniversalist
10 ай бұрын
Great! Thanks for the tip!
A theory built on wishes and wants.
@mmm-cs7tb
4 ай бұрын
Perhaps things are more complex than we realise. It makes sense that God doesn’t use our ignorance against us, just like he said forgive them father for they know not what they do.
@gfujigo
Ай бұрын
You are right. Eternal conscious torment is a theory built on wishes and wants. Thank God for the Bible to show that all will swear allegiance to God the savior of the world.
@aarontaylor6156
Ай бұрын
The need for people to burn in an eternal place of torment says alot about you
I am willing to debate any universalist here. Bcuz if we can't ever lose our souls to them revenge then drink & merry for tomorrow we die. On fb msg live? Anywhere to debate plz 🙏 God bless
So what about the lake of fire?
I'm curious, which version is that of Isaiah 45? Where it says, every knee shall bow, tongue shall swear (is what I see in translations) but I don't see shall swear "allegiance"
@orthodoxuniversalist
4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the question! Here are a few translations that render it that way: Every knee will bend to me, and every tongue will declare allegiance to me.” NLT ‘To me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear allegiance.’ ESV “…to Me every knee will bow, every tongue will swear allegiance.” NASB “Every knee will bow to Me, every tongue will swear allegiance.” HCSB
Jesus is literally God .......really
How would you respond to Matthew, chapter 7, verses 21-23: "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?' Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'" This clearly states that not everyone will enter the kingdom
@orthodoxuniversalist
6 ай бұрын
Definitely agree with you. This text is clear. But it implies only that there exists a group of people that are not doing the will of God and are therefore barred from entry into the kingdom, and an implied second group who are doing the will of God and are not barred from entry. It does not confirm that people cannot move from the former group to the latter. This point is illustrated by 1 Corinthians 6:9-11: “Or do you not know that the unrighteous WILL NOT inherit the kingdom of God? …And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.” Great question!
Hey Brother, do you have any recommendations on books on the topic of universalism?
@orthodoxuniversalist
Ай бұрын
Definitely! Ilaria Ramelli's "A Larger Hope: Part 1" is great. Steve Gregg's "All You Want To Know About Hell" is also really good. And I can't go without mentioning "The Evangelical Universalist" either. All of these books offer solid insights into a credible form of Christian Universalism.
@Joshua_Nikolai
Ай бұрын
@@orthodoxuniversalist Thanks very much!
Hey, friend Really enjoying your work, and I'm practically convinced of the narrative of universal restoration-what I remain uneasy about, however, is the direct afterlife of my loved ones. What will my mother, or my brother, or grandmother (all non-Christians) experience at death? I'm an Eastern Orthodox Christian, and the exoteric answer the church gives has never satisfied me.
@orthodoxuniversalist
10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback! I appreciate your encouragement and faith! Your question is definitely a serious one, which to be honest I don’t have a perfect answer for myself. What I think scripture has revealed, however, is that we draw nearer to God in death. Both for believers and for non-believers, the veil that separates us from eternity - and specifically from the glory of God - is removed when we die, and we find ourselves unable to escape his light. While Scripture clearly defines the post-mortem experience of unbelievers as “punishment,” it’s also interesting to take into account the impact that God’s presence has on non-believers in Scripture. Paul is a good example. He spent his time persecuting Christians, yet on the road to do so he found himself overcome by God’s presence. As a consequence, he had to experience physical blindness and humiliation, yet God ordained this event to bring about the apostle’s redemption. In the presence of God, the sinner Saul became the Saint Paul. The event wasn’t safe for Saul but it gave way to the birth of Paul. Might a similar, restorative experience be in store for unbelievers after death? I think so. I believe that God, by calling all things into his presence, will work continually for the restoration of all people without exception. I’m not sure this helps, by I pray you find assurance and rest in Christ as you consider this tough question.
@LeopoldMatthews
10 ай бұрын
@@orthodoxuniversalist thank you for this. It can just be really difficult to imagine it... I think my faith would crumble if a loved one passed away and I were to imagine they might be in agonizing torments. How can I smile and laugh with them thinking this will happen? It all becomes a lot on me
@DanielMoultonmatthew
10 ай бұрын
@@LeopoldMatthews It's their choice to be in torment
@LeopoldMatthews
10 ай бұрын
@@DanielMoultonmatthew I don't believe my family have consciously confessed their desire for and love for torment. Those who desire goodness will find its source; God does not punish arbitrarily for the sake of cruelty. St Isaac calls what you are saying the "childish view of God"
@DanielMoultonmatthew
10 ай бұрын
@@LeopoldMatthews God does not punish arbitrarily
Can I ask you what is your background? Are you really coming from Orthodox church ? I mean, that would be amazing, cause it's fascinating such a wide journey - I was raised Catholic, ( though never liked lots about it, ) and then as fast as I could, I went on my own searching through "everything", long story short, I was , as I call it- called back by Christ, and I dived deep waters of thousands of different variations of Christianity, have feeling now made big circle, just yesterday finished watching amazing speaker lady explaining Orthodox Phronema, which is absolutely fascinating, but before it I "decided" that I can't agree with eternal conscious torment, and I'm contemplating salvation issues ( as universalists),,, I'm still on the fence, want to dive deep to it, but coming back to my main question ( sorry, was backtrack trying to explain where I'm at with my search) were you raised in Orthodoxy?
@orthodoxuniversalist
9 ай бұрын
Thanks for reaching out! I am not EO but have great respect for it. The name of the channel is in reference to Gregory Nyssen who, as a clear universalist, was recognized as the standard of orthodoxy by the emperor and by his peers. I discuss him briefly in the video “Christian Universalism: Historical or Heretical.”
What if these verses 1 Timothy and 1 John mean that God is able to save all people through the atoneing blood of His Son but only those who believe and accept the gospel in this life are the ones who will only be saved, meaning that salvation is equally avaliable to all people but only the believers who took advantage of the opportunity of salvation and accepted it while they were still here on Earth will be saved instead of meaning that everybody eventually being reconciled to God through Christ whether in this life or the next?
@orthodoxuniversalist
10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback! That’s definitely a conventional view/ reading of these texts, but I would argue from the context, and from the evidence where similar language is used unmistakably to refer to all people in other scriptures (see the rest of the series for examples) that an argument for such a limited meaning is not tenable. I’m definitely open to hearing any strong cases that can be made for the views you mention.
Hi, I recently converted to Christianity 2 months ago after a lot of internal conflict. The conflict still continues though on individual doctrines, especially pertaining to hell. I was wondering if you could respond to this objection that the fathers of the 1st - 5th centuries believed that only baptized Christians living in the way of Christ in the church would be saved. And that the doctrines that were established at the time were past down by generation. Thus, the orthodox and Catholic Church adopt the idea of eternal torment because of the unchanged doctrines accepted by the early church.
@orthodoxuniversalist
10 ай бұрын
Thanks for reaching out! And thanks for sharing your story! I admire you for wrestling with the issues. To the first part of your question, I would agree with the statement that the early fathers believed that “only baptized Christians” were saved. I would also agree that, at this time, the doctrines that were established by the early church were past down fairly accurately from the beginning. However, you mention specifically the period of the 1st-5th centuries. It gets interesting when we realize that universalism wasn’t condemned in any formal creed, confession, or council until the 6th century, and it was condemned at a time when the Eastern Roman empower -Justinian - was so determined to control the church that he even imprisoned the pope. Many open Christian universalists lived in the first five centuries (Origin, Gregory Nyssen, Clement of Alexandria, etc.) who were highly admired by their contemporaries and not condemned for their universalism. In fact, they were even endorsed as leaders in their respective, church communities. There was a certain set of essential beliefs within the Early Church, which I think are summarized nicely in the Nicene and Apostles creeds but neither of these creeds condemns universalism. The name for the channel was actually chosen in reference to Gregory Nyssen, who was a clear universalist and designated “the standard of orthodoxy” by his peers. I briefly discuss many of the points I’ve alluded to in the “Common Objections” playlist on the channel, and specifically address some of the history in the video “Historical or Heretical.” I pray you find the answers God has for you in his perfect timing. Welcome to the family and to the pursuit of the kingdom!
@weezy894
10 ай бұрын
@@orthodoxuniversalistawesome. Thank you so much for the response. Just one more question... What would you say about the ecumenical council being infallible and "guided by the Holy Spirit"
@orthodoxuniversalist
10 ай бұрын
@@weezy894 I attribute great importance to the councils as an essential element for understanding church history but I can’t bring myself to attribute infallibility to every ruling they have produced. In the earliest councils (1-4) I personally find reflections of the infallibility of Scripture and therefore accept them as true representations of the early faith. But from the fifth council onward I find it hard to accept them in their entirety. Obviously there are a huge number of people who disagree with me, whom I respect a great deal. I understand their take but just can’t embrace it myself.
Hi. I’m an annihilationist myself but I do hold universalism as an acceptable viewpoint, just wondering if you would like to do a friendly live stream/video debate with me?
@orthodoxuniversalist
10 ай бұрын
Thanks a bunch for the offer! I might be interested in this in the future. Thanks!
Did you say Jesus taught the Lord's prayer to a mixed crowd? In Luke 11 it says, one day, in a certain place, his disciples asked him how to pray. Not amongst a croud. ???
@orthodoxuniversalist
9 ай бұрын
Check out the end of Matthew 7. “The crowds” marveled at his teaching. This was the concluding remark concerning the Sermon On the Mount. I go into detail in the video discussing the fatherhood of God over all people. Thanks for reaching out!
"promosm" ❤️
So sad & Upsetting that this Tradition teaches All sorts of sins & abominations would be automatically forgiven without that individual wanting God. If the devils know God is One ( complete & truth) why battle is humans & him? Why not sit still and wait til judgement to just be let back in into heaven. Universalism is heresy. Listen I will murder lust take for grabs if I could. But the justice of God puts fear in me. This is false all don't believe this.
@orthodoxuniversalist
4 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your take. I agree with you completely that any tradition promoting the idea that reconciliation with God can be gained without wanting him and repenting of sin would be “upsetting.” Yet this isn’t at all what historic Christian Universalism proposes. A long punishment in the next life for the unrepentant - even one that last ages - is an idea defended by the earliest Christian universalists. The difference is simply that such punishment can serve a good end - namely, reconciliation with God - and is not simply an end in itself. Thanks again for sharing!