THE MOVIE THAT KILLED THE X-MEN

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Find out how Dark Phoenix became the movie that killed the X-Men franchise in this in-depth analysis. Explore the downfall of the beloved superhero series with Dark Phoenix's epic fail.
0:00 Intro
1:30 Costumes
2:07 Timeline Issues
2:33 Story?
4:07 My History with X-Men
5:23 Dialogue
5:50 "Characters"
13:17 Something Cool?
13:48 goes out with a whimper
14:37 Conclusion

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  • @adambarnes49
    @adambarnes494 күн бұрын

    Better late than never

  • @LovelessDogg1
    @LovelessDogg13 күн бұрын

    I kinda blame Jennifer Lawrence for how bad the movies got. She kept pushing to have her character be the "hero" of every movie(Mystique names everyone, inspires everyone to be a team etc), refused to play the character she was given, which inevitably forced them to change the scripts around to make her a more prominent character, and refused to wear the make up so they had to either put her in a full uniform or let her walk around as a human. Which goes against the Mutant pride she had when it was Rebecca playing the character. Maybe she didn't single handidly do it, but she was open about how many things she complained about during filming it's not crazy to think she was one major cause of how the quality dropped so hard so quickly.

  • @GhostMikey0

    @GhostMikey0

    3 күн бұрын

    They should’ve utilized other mutants and phased her character out after DOFP. I felt like her arc was completed by then.

  • @DeeDeeDeeeee

    @DeeDeeDeeeee

    3 күн бұрын

    It’s funny that you say that because after DoFP, she was very open abt wanting to leave the franchise. If she had it her way, she would’ve never comeback for apocalypse or dark phoenix, which were obviously the movies that killed that character specifically.

  • @kanjibaka

    @kanjibaka

    2 күн бұрын

    ​@@DeeDeeDeeeeeI can see that coz her performance was just bad in Apocalypse😫no chemistry with people she was meant to have known since childhood and a team she assembled

  • @biguy617
    @biguy6172 күн бұрын

    Yeah the women are always saving the men like the very fast woman that saved everyone from the mansion blowing up in X-men Apocalypse. Oh wait that was Quicksilver, a man, an X-man!!

  • @TortillaBill
    @TortillaBill2 күн бұрын

    The apocalypse movie did it for me. Couldn't believe what i was seeing. Bro looked like Ivan Ooze

  • @GhostMikey0

    @GhostMikey0

    15 сағат бұрын

    😂😂😂

  • @kanjibaka
    @kanjibaka2 күн бұрын

    I literally forgot about Dark phoenix after they destroyed Apocalypse for me😢

  • @dj_daem0n
    @dj_daem0n3 күн бұрын

    My big problem with this movie was how the writer chose to keep the whole *Xavier created the Phoenix identity by fracturing Jean's mind* thing from LAST STAND even though they decided to create an actual PHOENIX FORCE that finds her. They're on a new timeline now thanks to DAYS OF FUTURE PAST. There's no need to force that plot point into this story. It doesn't matter that Jean glowed in a *phoenix-like shape* in the last film. It was just a visual easter egg for fans, it wasn't canon that Jean was doing an actual Phoenix thing. It would have been enough to say that Jean was afraid of her own power and never let loose until the fight with Apocalypse, and that the PHOENIX FORCE freed her from those inhibitions while giving her a massive power boost. Having Vuk show up acting like her friend and the devil on her shoulder in that confrontation with Magneto and the Professor when her only purpose was to *steal the power for herself* was also dumb as hell. It took away Jean's autonomy in a moment where having her judgment warped by the PHOENIX FORCE should have been enough of a conflict. Then when Vuk suddenly turns on her you're only left wondering what the point of the rouse was, other than to deliver exposition. The story overall was too convoluted, juggling too many things at once for the plot to both flow smoothly and be cohesive. The fact that they completely changed the ending at the last minute from a space battle to that train fight, because they didn't want CAPTAIN MARVEL comparisons probably helped the movie in the end. I mean, can you even imagine the convoluted mess required to force them back into space just for what was an X-MEN vs mob gank and boss fight? It probably would have looked cool, but it would have been dumb as hell.

  • @GhostMikey0

    @GhostMikey0

    3 күн бұрын

    I agree with all of this. Very disjointed movie innately

  • @MandaLewis
    @MandaLewis4 күн бұрын

    X3 killed X-Men for me. I couldn't get into the newer run. I'm ready to see what Marvel does with the IP.

  • @GhostMikey0

    @GhostMikey0

    4 күн бұрын

    You didn’t like any of the movies after X3? Not even Logan or Days Of Future Past??

  • @sylviabowers9297
    @sylviabowers92974 күн бұрын

    Really great video! Love your editing style and I look forward to seeing more of your work. Keep it up!

  • @GhostMikey0

    @GhostMikey0

    4 күн бұрын

    Thank you! 🙏🏾

  • @biguy617
    @biguy6172 күн бұрын

    No Apocalypse was terrible. I hated it

  • @user-be7tc2bd6e

    @user-be7tc2bd6e

    2 күн бұрын

    Yeah,it was bad.

  • @MrShaun42088
    @MrShaun4208823 сағат бұрын

    i like your video and opinions. i agree

  • @AfroRedMusic
    @AfroRedMusic3 күн бұрын

    DAWG thank you! I'm holding out hope that the new shit is better, considering that X-men 97 was ❤‍🔥

  • @GhostMikey0

    @GhostMikey0

    3 күн бұрын

    X-Men ‘97 should be the blueprint moving forward for X-Men movies

  • @rsync9490
    @rsync94905 күн бұрын

    Apocalyse killed that franchise. Dark pheonix was created near the very end of that movie run. Of course Logan was also released a few years before dark pheonix. The gifted series also ran around that time as well(love that series even though it had its issues. Also how is the xmen going to space jarring? Captain marvel's movie aired around the same time and she went to space all the time. And the guardians of the galaxy franchise movies exist so space travel is very normal by 2019.

  • @GhostMikey0

    @GhostMikey0

    5 күн бұрын

    They never made any reference to anything cosmic or space related in the X-Men movies until this movie. I’m not talking about any other franchise.

  • @adambarnes49

    @adambarnes49

    4 күн бұрын

    @@rsync9490 Yeah definitely agree,going from days of future past to apocalypse it's uh it's quite the leap in quality although I do prefer the quicksilver scene in X men apocalypse

  • @anonymousone554
    @anonymousone5546 күн бұрын

    💯💯💯💯💯

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