The Most Unlikely Comeback? (Low Elo Legends)
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This is actually really good Burgundian roleplay: losing way too many knights to a bunch of peasants with pikes. The real Flemish militia was the Goths all along.
@johnh6065
2 жыл бұрын
Blue was determined to be historically accurate right down to not investing in his economy and only focusing on horsey bois
@klake5375
2 жыл бұрын
@@johnh6065 Burgundy was very rich though
@werner6140
2 жыл бұрын
Seems more fitting for the Franks.
@bloopusarkat6929
Жыл бұрын
@@werner6140 it also fits for burgundy cause they got destroyed by the Swiss (peasants with pikes)
@frensj
Жыл бұрын
Burgundy didn't fight the Flemish, they just got Flanders by inheriting it. You confuse them with France because they are part of modern day France...
Once again, stoppable force meets movable object
@GarrettBShaw
2 жыл бұрын
Lol, "moveable object" 😂
The LeL logic I suspect at 11:00 is that stone walls on the back flank buys more time to move the eventual army to respond. Trust me, My Elo is pretty low
@GuardsmanGary_Ch
2 жыл бұрын
My ELO is non-existent and that was my thought too.
@walkerhumphrey181
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly I always thought you were supposed to stone wall the back and palisade the front
@Zeru.
2 жыл бұрын
I thought that was because they would not be paying so much attention to their back, OR maybe have been flanked like that before and now have nightmares about it lol.
@RobotShield
2 жыл бұрын
Yep I agree, your army and attention is more likely to be at the front and military buildings too so you can react better.
@MaartenvanHeek
2 жыл бұрын
This was my thought as well
Blue hit 48 Vills and COMPLETELY forgot to create ANY MORE.... That whole Meme about focusing on army and micro while forgetting to make villagers for 20mins.
@martijnbouman8874
2 жыл бұрын
At first, he wanted to invest 100% of his food into Cavalier and upgrades. After that, he probably thought it was over and didn't need to make any more Villagers. That logic makes no sense, of course, since even if that were true, there would be no downside to continue to queue Villagers, but that is how many people think.
@Real_MisterSir
2 жыл бұрын
@@martijnbouman8874 yea and even then, blue was not out of the game at all when he called the gg. In fact he was still far ahead, he was floating 7k food and had a secure base. Sell half his food, go to imp, get a bit of siege and wreck red. It felt more like blue simply stopped playing alltogether after his initial attack - as if he was so shocked that he didn't kill red then and there, and from that moment he just mindless trickled cavs into pikes until he realized he was hitting his face repeatedly at the same wall and then he quit. Idk man, these LEL matches always surprise but this one was something else.
@JonnySoJuicy
2 жыл бұрын
his vision went completely red...KILL. THEM. ALL!
Well, what have we learned? Always pick Red as your color... that is all.
@SIGNOR-G
2 жыл бұрын
Of course. Red is the color of the protagonist
@ninjaxd9050
2 жыл бұрын
But yellow won a game earlier too, thus the real lesson is don't pick blue.
@SIGNOR-G
2 жыл бұрын
@@ninjaxd9050 of course. Blue is the color of the rival. Dmc docet
@Orinslayer
Жыл бұрын
Red actually statistically wins more often across all games.🏆 👌
My theory about Blue's walling is that he used stone walls at the back because it would take longer to get army to the back to defend so he used stone walls to buy time there where as the front is just palisades because his army can be there quicker
@bobfrank3575
2 жыл бұрын
sounds like a solid strat
@Joey-rs7uq
2 жыл бұрын
It's like he made a horse pen out of his base, gotta admire someone who sticks to their way of playing. This was such a cute match, like watching evolution in its making. Usually specialization is precise in its very specific angle, but also very unstable while those that can reproduce and adapt win out.
@firemyst9064
Жыл бұрын
I was thinking about that for a few minutes and I had the same idea. Incentivizing a frontal assault by making break-away walls.
@Lexoka
Жыл бұрын
Possible. I think he just started with palissades because that's what he could do, then used stone because he could.
I really want a 'take control' feature for replays especially LEL. At any point in the replay, you can sub in for a player and an AI will take over for the opponent.
@raphaelcardoso7927
2 жыл бұрын
Would be amazing
@reneguenon1913
2 жыл бұрын
This'd be fun tbh
@saulogomez673
2 жыл бұрын
An AI taking control over red position would have resigned lol
@icarusthefly5458
Жыл бұрын
Even ai on extreme would have resigned😂
@Lexoka
Жыл бұрын
@@saulogomez673 There could be an option preventing the AI from ever resigning, forcing you to utterly destroy your enemy in order to win.
I don't even pick goths but most of my memories of playing them go basically like this. Barely survive and then spam pike and you win
Usually I smile, laugh, and enjoy LEL videos. This one made me feel levels of anger I didn't know were possible
@caseyb1346
2 жыл бұрын
???? I thought this was hilarious.
@spinyslasher6586
Жыл бұрын
@@caseyb1346 It made me livid seeing Blue completely forget about eco and unit comp and just spam out cavaliers.
All those poor neglected relics, and the potential Burgundian Vineyards gold; as someone who loves resource trickle mechanics, it broke my heart to see Blue run out of gold when it could've been easily prevented. But imagine if he HAD secured enough resources to mindlessly ram cavalry into spearmen. How would he ever learn about counter-units? It was a great game either way from both players!
@meneldal
2 жыл бұрын
Or also not getting even fletching for your castles, making them way too weak. Any other unit would have worked better against pikeman over cavalry
7000 food in the bank and a completely untouched, fully walled base. Blue could've outspammed the Goth player with literally any trash unit and won this easily, even when he resigned. This is what happens when you say "I decided to just make Cavalier so that's what I'm gonna do". 11
I really feel like that the goth player was played by a little brother and then at the point red was making lots of pikes, his big bro took over. It's like "Bro save me I'm losing right now" and then "All right leave it to me, I got this"
@LightKnight_Age_Of
2 жыл бұрын
I goth this
T90 the "dust" aka "puddle" is yes, dust, and it pops up depending on whether they have wheelbarrow or hand cart to show the vil going faster....like they're burning rubber 11
As a low elo player, I freaking love these videos. A lot of the games you've casted have helped out big time whenever I'm in a pickle lol
This was one of my favorite low elo legend videos ever. It gives me hope.
Red: spams pikes Blue better starts to make counter units instead of even more cav Blue: I'll fuckin do it again (x10)
@thatguybrody4819
2 жыл бұрын
Red: _our pikes will blot out the sun_
I LOVE LOW ELO LEGENDS !!!!!!!!!!!!
There's a lot of interesting logic around LEL, but the one I really can't wrap my head around is they all seem to get to around 40-60 vils and then just stop building them.
@rrrrroope
2 жыл бұрын
at around those numbers you're both usually in castle age and so you have to focus every iota of effort on managing military production and attacking or defending
@benijager1372
2 жыл бұрын
It's because we don't think we need them, I usually produced the 20 ones, then 5 at feudal, then continue till 40
@benijager1372
2 жыл бұрын
In 1 TC cuz I used to be very low Elo
@ducksauce9187
2 жыл бұрын
@@rrrrroope you just have to press 2 keys every now and then like for me its H for town center then C to create villager so every now and then u just go H-C-C-C-C-C-C then go back to army
@syb7605
Жыл бұрын
That's when the fight started. When you're in a state of war, you don't make babies.
Y'all are taking the LEL logic 1 step too far with the time and flanks and whatnot. Take the logic one step back- it's because it means blue only has to defend from the front, bc who would choose to attack stone walls over palisades? He just eliminated 2 of the 3 possible directions his enemy would ever attack him from.
Split up strategy from Red was super effective. Blue: "You're dead now!" Red: "You're right, I am dead. Or am I?!" Blue: *Resigns*
Whenever my base get cleaned out in a team game, i just re-build in someone else’s base and then come back later. Actually i love those situations
Actually showed that stubbornness can come in a good and a bad flavor: Not giving up versus not adapting to your opponent.
Blue would've literally won with scouting. Ironically, that's after he scouted the whole map and it was RED who had really poor scouting. Blue would've won with scouting after he killed red's main.
wrecked at 26 minutes 20 minutes left 0.0
These videos are so laid back, I love it. Just so nice to come out of tournament coverage into this.
11:00 Where are you going to position your army? On the front of course. That means you are already protected there. On the flanks you arent though, so thats why LeL tend to fortify their flanks first. I approve.
Did blue sign a no-imp pledge or something?
35:32 The best moment. Blue's cavalry forgot spears are good against horses.
at 11:00 I think the thought is that it makes it more likely that an enemy will attack the part of your base where your unit buildings and waypoints are at. It's like a baby step between "maybe i should stop full stone walling because of how expensive is" and full palisade walling instead
I’m very late to the party, as I only recently found this channel. This low ELO Legends is amazing, because it makes the game accessible! It’s so easy to watch a high level game and think “I’m never gonna play a ranked match because I’ll just get destroyed.” Not so much after watching this one!
@hikemartman7971
2 жыл бұрын
Plus, it is less robotic. High level players are so efficient, they are less creative.
"Dropping a castle to protect his gold" 36:15 got a good laugh
I was laughing my ass off for the last 20 minutes of this game. This was both hilarious and infuriating to watch.
The back stone is cuz we afraid of sneaky raids that we don't pay attention to and the back corners have no vills nearby usually
6:57 That scout got put in the time out corner. Its the punish the last scout who died under TC on autoscout. 11
Thanks for your hard work, t90. Also thanks to whoever edits these videos.
@Eira_99
2 жыл бұрын
What editing? Looks like it's just taken right from his stream with no changes.
@sarahd2623
2 жыл бұрын
@@Eira_99 He actually has an editor if you can believe it :D
@drrmdlogos6973
2 жыл бұрын
@@Eira_99 Not every video is edited, but some are. Idk who does it, if its t90 or someone else. Whoever it is, its always nice. Cheers mate.
@Th3UprightMan
2 жыл бұрын
@@drrmdlogos6973 I haven't seem anything but the bare minimum, both in effort and impact/quality.
if you want streamlined efficiency brain vs brawn battles you go hi elo. if you want to see matches devolve into creative chaos that spawns accidental genius and unexpected twists with a touch of wonder and magic, you go lo elo.
I'm not a legend, but I am Low Elo, so I appreciate learning what not to do.
@57Javier747
2 жыл бұрын
To become a legend you need to do stupid things but yet win.
@wmcarter6096
2 жыл бұрын
@@57Javier747 I've been trying a Cumans feudal ram rush on Arena. that's pretty stupid, right? Just can't win.
@LightKnight_Age_Of
2 жыл бұрын
@@wmcarter6096 No it's an actually legit move. I've lost once to that.
This game is pure gold. The definition of Low Elo Legends. Maybe my favourite one
13:28 is that a weed? Are we supposed to.. should I spray that? Nope. Someone else's problem. Lmao
Blue: Why won't you Surrender? Red: side tc's son
37:48 killed me. Most hilarious game I watched since so many months
So, at the start I was wondering why they are low elo, they seemed fine with managing the economy, queueing villagers. But then towards the mid I realized that there is always always always some aspect where these kinds of players are completely oblivious to, like the pikemen being cheap and good against expensive knights...
19:00 blue is building stable economy
I think the spreading out makes for a very dynamic game. Could definitely be fun again to watch. I'm an overt masochist. :D
The throw of the century. I died inside. 10/10 bloodthirsty pikemen.
That comeback was epic. This may be my favorite LEL (and I’ve been watching these endlessly for a couple months now).
The best Scout hiding in mid of map I have ever seen. lol. GG
Sneak scout was hilarious. I do that thinking there's treasure in the corners.
1:57 Most funny comment: "Hi, me in the future"
Wow! Talk about yanking defeat from the jaws of victory!
blue making stonewalls so red cant possibly sneak in when he isnt looking
blue may have gotten wheelbarrow at 13 vils because he was housed
ngl i was waiting for the last overwhelming charge from red to wreck blue's base at the end ; i was laughing watching this vid
Blue's refusal to go Imp is physically painfull
The greeks had a word for the pattern red is scouting. It's boustrophedon. Literally, as the ox plows.
Red only had one word in his mind. DECENTRALIZE!!!
@ 7:38 "... So many vills on the elephant. Holy cow!" What a lovely piece of irony there, T90 ! 😁👍 M 🦘🏏😎
The Legend of G
Blue was just tryna extra protect his flanks? Duh lol
laugh like crazy at 36:18 drop a castle to protect 100 gold hahaha
I used to go pure archers on the theory that with enough archers you can kill any melee unit before it can close. And playing as Britains I would always go cav archer because I wanted the speed, not knowing that they lacked crucial upgrades.
you mentioned at the start that it's weird he spread his villagers and that goths are good at comebacks. i think red planned to lose the main base from the start.
straggler trees are beautiful, they give so much flavor to you town.
This game remonds me of a post i saw once that went something like, Me playing franks when my opponent makes pikes: "i should make a tech switch" My brain: "but you are franks you make THE HORSES"
You know the most frustrating thing about red and other players like him in low elo? It isn't the making archers as goths and spending like 20+ minutes not making infantry at all. It wasn't the holes in the house walls. It wasn't the lack of scouting. So many low elo people have such iffy booming with tons of TC idle time. They get attacked and sometimes lose their base as shown here and then they immediately kick it into overdrive and start booming like crazy to "make up for lost time"...if they'd just boom like that to begin with they'd be in such better positions!
Blue stopped producing villagers at around 50 total. Had he gone up to 100 (or as was said, made other unit types), red would have never had a chance.
g uses the low elo cockroach strat and can compete against stronger players with it. This is low elo legend material.
Wtf. Blue still had it 😂 i guess he just said fuck it. Not gonna waste more time here 😂
That was awesome. Love LEL :D
This was incredible
And games like this one are what brought most of the balance change ideas on the Age of Empires forums -.-'
Oh my god, Red built the mill right next to the gold and stone, miles from the bushes. I think he was trying to place a mining camp.
It does not beg the question. It raises the question. This drives me crazy.
Honestly, if Red had only one stable hidden away somewhere, with 5-6 scouts he could at least distract blue's army, if not even remove blue's economy/population.
Honestly, I'd probably rather take a spear to the chest than an arrow. I did archery for a while when i was a kid and while both would absolutely suck, a bow is way more powerful. Sure, the mass of a thrown spear would help it do a lot of damage, but the mechanical leverage of a bow makes it able to penetrate so much deeper. We used targets made of very thick and heavy foam matting and the arrows, even from the fairly weak bow I was using when I was like 12, would stick out the back of the target that was maybe 25-30 cm thick.
23:42 the unit you were trying to think of was Malian CA
As someone who hates being raided and does the same thing as blue I feel I can take a crack at why he stone walls the back. If your awareness is low then you want to minimise the points of entry to your base, stone walling the back makes it more likely the enemy will be 'funneled' to the easier palisades. Its an effective way to encourage the enemy to break in where you want them to enter so you can focus on the front and not lose half your econ to a back raid before you realise youre in trouble. Another layer to this is that once i stone wall the back i dont usually put anything back there other than farms if i get to the end game. If im going to be raided and need to quickly put a 2nd layer of walls i can do that at the front where most of my villagers are close faaaar quicker and easier than if i have to trek villagers to the back to try plug a hole. Ive had way too many enemies bust through my palisades before my villagers could get there for me to risk it anymore. In short, stone walls are an arrow pointing to where i want the enemy to fight me.
I don't got the time to watch all of these videos or be on twitch to watch live; but man I NEVER miss a low elo legends if I can help it!
the immovable object vs stubborn cavalier spam
I have lured "boars" to my mill but I prefer the TC because you can put it under the middle and make the vils drop food instantly with a couple clicks. But then, red didn't do that either so....
This proves that studying the tech tree always pays off. Red knew what a counter is. Blue didnt. He had won too many games with cav rushing. 😎
How can blue be 600 ELO is beyond me. Like seriously... I play like old stinking boot and I am still better in counter-unit theory than he is. ._. This is the lowest of low ELO's logic. This is how I played single player when I was 12. I cheated alot of resources, spammed heavy cav and eventually won.
loving how fervour payed off!!
19:10 man that was hilarious, i showed this to my girlfriend who doesnt even know aoe and she laughed too.
What. The. Hell. 😂❤
GOTHSSSS!!! LFG!!!! You're my boy, red!
I want to see more the legend of g! Great game
I have no experience with this game but the commentary is so good. Do you have a diplomacy playlist ?
So I think that my move when I lose a game is to send all my units into my opponent’s army. Seems like a lot more entertaining than just resigning
Reg is a perfect example as to why I don't give up until im knocked out (or lose all Vil's, then thats literally GG for me) theres always that slight possibility to win after an enemy exploits a vulnerability that likely cost you the whole game. Never quit, never surrender, but if you're going to do so, at least keep playing legitimately & not clinging on just to be a troll, thats just rude & unnecessary.
Honestly I get the impression Red is simply the better player here. He could and should have scouted out blue more, and seen what he was going for before it actually hit him, but once he saw what it was he knew exactly what to do to counter it, and Blue was either unaware of how hard he was getting countered, or just wanted to make cavs no matter what, and he was punished for it. I honestly feel like if either player scouted more fervently, the game would have tilted in their favor significantly: Red because he seems to be counter-happy, and Blue to spot all those corner bases and stop them before they can scale up too much. Scouting's important, folks :D
Pikes demolished cavalier cost-effectively, Hera stans seething
Holy bush😂😂😂😂
Wheel barrow at 13 pop lol mint
The Mill by red near the beginning was actually pretty good, don't something you would expect from lel.
Never let your foot off the gas, folks.
Colorized footage of the Battle of the Golden Spurs.
Jesus Christ red having his pikes sit in the corner of the map behind his villagers and buildings the whole time was driving me insane
I feel bad for blue 😂😂😂 but goth is my favorite CIV so I’m happy lol
Beautiful strategy of red... get "defeated" and spread your eco to everywhere... Then boom eco and defence...