The Most UNIQUE Wine Style in the World?
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I have tasted the following wines in this Video. Find them on wine-searcher.com by clicking on the links:
2021 Weingut Donnhoff Oberhauser Leistenberg Riesling Kabinett, Nahe, Germany - 17 US $:
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2020 Egon Muller Scharzhofberger Riesling Kabinett, Mosel, Germany - 155 US $:
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1976 Schloss Johannisberg Rotlack Riesling Kabinett, Rheingau, Germany - 120 US $:
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2021 Schloss Lieser-Thomas Haag Piesporter Goldtropfchen Riesling Kabinett, Mosel, Germany - 17 US $:
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2008 Joh. Jos. Prum Wehlener Sonnenuhr Riesling Kabinett, Mosel, Germany - 75 US $:
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The 100 Point Scoring System (from www.robertparker.com):
96-100: An extraordinary wine of profound and complex character displaying all the attributes expected of a classic wine of its variety. Wines of this caliber are worth a special effort to find, purchase and consume.
90 - 95: An outstanding wine of exceptional complexity and character. In short, these are terrific wines.
80 - 89: A barely above average to very good wine displaying various degrees of finesse and flavor as well as character with no noticeable flaws.
70 - 79: An average wine with little distinction except that it is soundly made. In essence, a straightforward, innocuous wine.
60 - 69: A below-average wine containing noticeable deficiencies, such as excessive acidity and/or tannin, an absence of flavor or possibly dirty aromas or flavors.
50 - 59: A wine deemed to be unacceptable.
Riesling is the most important grape variety in terms of quantity as well as quality in Germany. One of the reasons why Riesling is difficult to understand is also one of its biggest advantages: It can produce many different styles and one of them is Kabinett.
Kabinett is a German term with many meanings. It can refer to a small room, a group of politicians, and also to the lowest Prädikat Level for wine in Germany.
This, however, does not mean that Kabinetts are of low quality as the German wine law is mainly based on the sugar level of the grape juice - not really an indicator of quality at all.
The grapes for Kabinetts need to have at least 70 degrees Oechsle, 17 degrees Brix or roughly 160 grams per Liter of sugar. The grapes are usually juts harvested later than the grapes for “normal” Qualitätswein and before Spätlese grapes.
You could ferment most Kabinetts to dryness and those wines can also be delicious. But the real magic happens if you balance the fresh and vibrant Riesling acidity with residual sugar to create a juicy wine. that is low in alcohol and jam-packed with flavor.
7 to 8 percent of alcohol is not a rarity but the wines are no heavy sweet wines … they really form a category of their own between dry and sweet, more juicy and lively and they can be paired with various dishes, can be consumed as an Aperitif, as a breakfast wine and as well as a pick me up after a long tasting.
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Describing the colour of wine as "morning urine" absolutely sent me 😂😂😂
@lauradayanaducuarahernande5896
11 ай бұрын
😅
@clydeblair9622
11 ай бұрын
Lol
@nikolajkrarup-os9gn
11 ай бұрын
Same here. First time I have head that as an desciptor in a wine evaluation. I was laughing so hard 😂
@wce_fan
11 ай бұрын
It made me laugh too 😂
@sorinsrn5442
11 ай бұрын
Its a german thing of expression:)))
Still the best wine channel on KZread
The statement you gave about enjoying a wine vs rating a wine was perfect!
I appreciate how hard you work to keep your personal tastes out of how you rate the wines. That shows a lot of integrity. 💜
A breakfast wine? Never heard of that and it will be difficult to explain that to my wife. 😂
@kerriar
3 ай бұрын
I've. heard a bottle described as a breakfast wine or wine for drinking in the car on the way to work.
I so appreciate you reviewing and discussing these lower alcohol wines. The older I get the more I appreciate lower alcohol wines even though they are becoming harder and harder to find. Keep these reviews coming. I love what you do!
German riesling wine is a piece of art; so much so, that after tasting a 2011 GG from S.A. Prum, I commissioned a painting to be made, pairing it with my favourite place, wine glass, and cigar, it now decorates our living room. The incredible complexity and unreal tasting notes (everything from petrol and oudh, to hints of truffle), plus their extreme freshness even after decades and their excellent pricing levels, makes them an one of a kind experience. Kabinett riesling also holds a very dear place in my heart, having tried some wonderful examples from Dohnhoff, Dr.Loosen and S.A. Prum; haven’t had the pleasure to try a very old one though, and your video certainly intrigued me. Keep up the fantastic work, it really feels like we’re with you enjoying a glass while you’re tasting - a privilege to have an MW as company!
Some Australian vineyards make off-dry Riesling like Gundog Estate Gundaroo Riesling
Just finished a bottle of Maximin Grunhaus Herrenberg Riesling Kabinett - very nice! Will be trying more of these.
The most unique wine style is surely Greek Retsina? - I love the story about how it’s basically the corked wine of the ancient world. Back then they used pine sap to seal the amphora they stored wine in, and sometimes the sap would cause the wine to spoil. However the Greeks developed a taste for the sappy wine, one that has stuck for 3,000+ years and long long since pine sap was regularly used in wine production.
When I was 14 yo l was on a winetrip with my parents to mosel. My dad let my try a wine Bernkastel. Its the reason why l fell in love with wines and it’s still the closest to my heart along with sauternes. Love it. More of this please 🙏
Riesling IMO is the world’s most underrated white varietal. Really enjoyed learning more about the German rieslings as most of my experience has been with Alsace. Cheers 🥂
Kabinett aside Riesling is awesome and I love how you can produce everything from dry wine (trocken) . to off dry (kabinett) to semi sweet (spatlese) to sweeter (auslese) to very sweet (eiswein) (berenauslese) all depending on the conditions of harvest. It really is a white grape varietal that has a possibility to suit every and any wine palate! Very versatile and very diverse. Reason why its one of my favorite varietals. As much as I love the german rieslings I would also love to point out how awesome Rieslings are from other parts of the world, anywhere from old world regions like austria, alsace france, switzerland, hungary etc. and new world areas like australia , washington state, california. What makes Germany special is they literally have wine laws and regulations that revolve solely around riesling, such as even thinking of oeschle which is basically measuring sugar content upon harvest to determine what wine style it is suited for. Some of my favorite Riesling I have personally tried so far have been austrian, love how intense they can be, usually made in a dryer style with loads of intensity!
@lmmadsen2073
11 ай бұрын
It really deserves its place among the noble grapes. BC does grow some Riesling but I much prefer that from the old world. I have not had Riesling eiswein, auslese, or berenauslese but I have tried the rest.
@Fr1kaD3ll37
6 ай бұрын
But here's a misunderstanding: Kabinett does not mean off-dry, it can also be just dry or sweet aswell, depending on how much sugar was fermented. The Prädikat (Kabinett, Spätlese etc.) describes the grapes' sugar content after harvest, not the sweetness of the wine after fermentation.
I've always wondered about having Kabinette with my corn flakes; maybe now I'll do it! Thanks! 👍👍
I am ALL ABOUT this video. Thanks so much for doing this! There is no wine I enjoy more than German Riesling, and there is so much quality there. If you haven’t already, I recommend a visit to Rhein Wein Welt in Rüdesheim, what a fantastic place. There were many memorable wines there but a fantastic Kabinett from Leitz blew me away. As you said many are made too dry, but this was so unbelievably juicy. I will happily drink this style of wine for the rest of my life!
Das ist so interessant! I habe nicht gedacht, dass Kabinett Weine so kompliziert, lebhaft und langlebig sein können! Total toll!
My favourite Master of Wine tasting wines from my favourite wine country made from my favourite grape variety and to top it off: my favourite Prädikat. Although I cannot afford wines made by that icon Egon Müller, "sponti Kabi's" from the Saar region are by far my favourite white wine. I like them for the exact same reason you mentioned, always exiting, always refreshing and always wanting you to pour another glass. Salut!
Fantastic lineup of producers. I can drink Kabinett Riesling all day everyday. It’s so refreshing and complex on its own and brilliant with food. The QPR when you’re in Germany is just off the charts too!
You're so articulate and thoughtful, no hyperbole but able to describe the ephemeral. My ideal way of evaluating anything.
Thank you for this video. The wines you presented came from some of the most iconic wine producers in the world and some with prices to match. Fortunately there are many more who produce outstanding Riesling Kabinett’s that wont break the bank, such as Selbach Oster who’s wines I think are at the same level. For me the jewel in the crown is the Moselle. There are so many vineyards here producing heavenly wines. I have just returned from a very famous wine producing region in France and was disappointed by the the price to quality ratio. I am lucky enough to live in the Moselle valley and would recommend your viewers to add it to their bucket list of wine regions to visit. You wont be disappointed.
Just three hours ago I happend to open a 2003 Riesling Spätlese Eitelsbacher Kartäuserhofberg. Wow!!! This 20 year old wine was still a bit sparkling, totally fresh like bottled yesterday, vibrant and just a delicious Riesling wine from Mosel-Saar-Ruwer wine region. This wine has 9.5 % alcohol. I still have half a pallett of those wonderful Spätlese wines from different producers including Dönnhof, JJ Prüm, Dr. Loosen, Haag Brothers, you name it. Most of them have even less alcohol. I drink them almost every day while cooking and it is just a delight and a gift from heaven. I totally understand that you could continue this tasting a little longer.
boy oh boy, what a piece of truly hard work...yet, someone's got to do it!
Just rewatched, maybe your best presentation and that's saying something.
Thank you for creating these videos.
Great video and really appreciated that you shed some light on this truly unique wine style. Good selection of wines btw.
Definitely a great selection! :-) And that's why I want to give a shout out to "Wein & Glas Compagnie Berlin" where I got introduced to exactly these estates in the middle of the 1990s ... They had these fantastic tasting events on Friday nights where they introduced customers to wine varieties and regions from all around the world .... and - can you believe it - in the beginning (if I remember correctly) it hardly cost anything and later something around 10 DM for 6 or 7 different wines... in a rising order of quality! I'll never forget how "watery" the entry level wines tasted once we had reached - e.g. - a "Robert Weil Spätlese" ... :-) And they also helped organise the first "GutsWein" in Berlin ... I wish they'd organise that again ...
I love Kabinett wines. So varied yet always refreshing, they can have a refinement other wine styles find it hard to match. I should definitely have had a good time amongst THOSE bottles. Nice one Konstantin! ⭐👍
Hallo Konstantin, nachdem es mich vor kurzem aus Rheinhessen nach Wien verschlagen hat, habe ich mich hier intensiver mit Grünen Veltliner (zum Thema Weine, die es nur in einem Land gibt) auseinandergesetzt. Im Rahmen der Nachbarschaftshilfe und zur Völkerverständigung D-Ö wäre eine Folge hierzu doch mal eine tolle Sache! Habe gerade letzte Woche von Berndhard Ott den GV Rosenberg und vom Weingut Söllner den GV Welfel getrunken, beides fantastisch und tolles Preis-Leistungs Verhältnis. Würde mich sehr freuen!
Absolutely love Kabinett wines! Thank you for dedicating a blind tasting to them.
Thank you for this video! I actually opened a kabinett to watch this week’s video, before knowing what it was about. I’m very excited about Riesling from a lot of regions, but German most of all. I’m still learning the difference between the various German styles of rieslings, so this was helpful. Can’t wait to get some years on some of the kabinetts I have to get the aged experience.
I absolutely love German Kabinett Rieslings. Donnhof was my fav but need to expand my portfolio. Great show!
Thanks a lot for your great videos and sharing your knowledge and passion. Riesling kabinett is one my favorite wine also!
glad I'm going to those regions in September, another new style to try.....thanks
One of my favorite wine styles. Great Video!
Excellent very entertaining and educational -- keep them coming!!
I really enjoyed this video and wines.
Great video as always! One of the most delicious wines ive ever had was Maximin Grunhauser Abtsberg kabinett
Great tasting!
I really enjoyed this virtual tasting. I could sense a higher level of excitement from you. My wine mentor loved older German Riesling and he wasn’t afraid to pull the corks are share them with his staff. When new vintages of JJ prum or Von Kesselstatt came into the store, he would open them for the staff to taste and enjoy(during work). When I first met my wife, I convinced her to buy a case of the 2001 Von Kessletstatt Scharzhofberger kabinett. I have so many memories of kabinett and spatlese.
@mikaelplaysguitar
10 ай бұрын
von Kesselstatt Scharzhofberger Kabinett is maybe the best Kabinett QPR there is, and that is saying a lot. Love that wine.
So refreshing to look at that most underrated of styles. More Kabinett reviews please Konstantinos. Could you do a ‘bargain bucket’ review?
Good luck with the new website!
Great video Konstantin! I actually bought the S Johannisberg 2020 on a trip to Germany last year. I however, didn’t wait 50 years to pop that cork! It was delicious though so now I guess I’ll have to get more if I’ll manage to keep some for 50+ years!
Excellent as always, my friend.
@KonstantinBaumMasterofWine
11 ай бұрын
Thank you!
I still have unfinished business this summer; I've promised myself to enjoy a glass (or multiple) of kabinett Riesling in the sun. Love the playful nature of the wines while they're still able to express an insane range of charming Riesling aromas.
love the style and perfect match for spicy foods
love kabbinett, it has helped me convince so many of my friends that sweetness in wine can be beautiful, not just a sign of plonk!
Love all Riesling styles except dry. I am on my fourth bottle of 2021 St Ursula Goldener Oktober, which is a new item where I shop. But I also have been enjoying this without realizing it was a special style. Now I know, thanks to you. These brutally hot evenings here are meant for dining Al fresco and quaffing this for refreshment!
Riesling was the first style of wine I ever bought more than once when I was first getting into wine😅. I've never had this substyle and will have to look around locally to see if it's around 😊
A question regarding Riesling and food pairing: With a dry Kabinett or dry Auslese it is easy: Fresh water fish or Charcuterie. A Beerenauslese or Eiswein it is easy, too: You drink it on their own. What about a dry Spätlese/Auslese? What about a demi-douce (half sweet) Spätlese/Auslese?
My kinda video. Riesling is just such a marvellous grape variety, and I can't agree more on Egon Müllers as well as Joh. Jos. Prüm Rieslings. They are spectacular. I hoard all the Prüm Kabinetts that I can get. Such great quality for the price. Keep up the amazing work! Thoroughly enjoyed the video, as always 🤗
Absolutely love German Riesling, a gr8 tasting sir.. 👏
Adore Kabinett style wines. Drunk the 2021 Schloss Lieser you tasted earlier in the year - absolutely sensational.
I recently had a 2018 Karl Josef Riesling Kabinett that was probably my favorite wine I’ve ever had the opportunity to taste.
Ahhh my favourite white grape. Preferring the Dry styles. Loving the Clare/Eden valley Reislings
From your opening speech I thought we'd have Moscato d'Asti or Lambrusco 😆 . Great show as always!
I had a Nahe qualitatswien Muller Thurgau that was amazing. So earthy.
Well, one more thing I need to try!
Riesling rocks! I love riesling from bone dry to sweet. Passed Schloss Lieser not too long ago. MSR is a great region to visit (and it is just a few hours away for me). And maybe it is global warming, but Kabinetts are just very delicious.
Supposedly the 'inventor' of the style and name Kabinett is Schloss Vollrads from Rheingau. This is also the oldest *continuously* working wine producer in the world.
Need to taste this style, it's a shame that in my country it's too expensive to buy (and too hard to find) German Riesling. Thanks for the video Konstantin!
Love kabinett wine especially Riesling but I also had a lovely scheurebe from Pfalz. Such an under rated style
i don't recall seeing 'morning urine' on the color scale when i did WSET 2. i guess they save that for MWs haha
Whenever I see you open this much wine, I always wish I was your neighbor.
I enjoyed hearing your explanation in regard to points scored vs. enjoyment of a wine. But then it's mine as well. My epiphany came when judging California Chardonnays. I often scored them higher than my enjoyment of them. They would rarely meet my "would you enjoy having a second glass" test. German Kabinetts nearly always do. For me, quaffable isn't an inexpensive wine that one drinks without reflection, but a wine that you take delight in drinking a second and third glass.
Your face when you unveiled the Egon Muller. My face would be the same, lol.
While working at the restaurant I got to open many wines from the early 80s to the late 60s. Most pretty yummy.
One of the rare occurrences that I've had the same wine that you're drinking, namely the Schloss Lieser-Thomas Haag Piesporter Goldtropfchen Riesling Kabinett. And I also love aged Kabinett, especially when they go beyond 30 years and develop medicinal notes and as you mentioned menthol notes, I think you can safely buy good Kabinett and then store them, if you have the space, for decades and something interesting will develop. Incidentally I'm awaiting a shipment of Vouvray a box of each in all of its sweetness (Sec, demi-sec, moelleux).
@johannessteindl2555
11 ай бұрын
I had also the Schloss Lieser Goldtröpfchen. Did not know the winemaker until then. But in the line up (5 in total) it was for my taste by far the best one.
Konstantin, on a normal day when you aren't tasting wines for that particular purpose, how much would you say you consume, say, on an average dinner day. For instance, a couple of glasses in the evening with a meal, or other? Enjoying your boss content. Rock on.
@KonstantinBaumMasterofWine
11 ай бұрын
It depends. I usually take some days off per week and on some days I drink very little
Like that. Funny, I tasted one time Johannisberg but trocken, and feinherb from other winery. Both were nice. It is cool! 👌
Had a Riesling Auslese once from 2020. it didn't have enough acidity to me so it was overtly sweet which didn't fit my palate. Then I tried a Riesling Kabinett from Clemens Busch from 2021. less sweet and similar acidity. It was simply amazing.
I’ve never tried a Kabinett, but have been working to get into Riesling recently having previously not explored it at all. I’ll admit that the very high residual sugar and low alcohol has slightly put me off as it’s very different to the whites I typically like to drink so have been experimenting with Trocken & GGs (and loving them!) I know how much people like Kabinett though and based on your effusive love for them I clearly need to start exploring!
This is telling me I need to hunt down some older bottles of Schloss Johannisberger.
I love Kabinett wines. I see more dry reislings these days than the quality Kabinetts I'm searching for.
Big fan of Riesling Kabinett 👍
Kabinett from Joh.Jos. Prüm was my introduction to riesling - they are my favorite winery of that reason too, also because of the quality of course.
@honigschlecker1
11 ай бұрын
Most Prüm are pretty sweet, though... aren't they? That was my impression after tasting one and doing some small research.
"Morning Urine" - LOL! I expect that in the new Crayola line up next year.
Love Kabinett. I used to prefer Spätlese, but now prefer the variety (dry, off dry, sweet) of Kabinett Riesling. Most of my bottles are 2015-2016 and from the Mosel. Thanks for distinguishing your professional scoring from your enjoyment scoring. I wish that more reviewers did this, as most it seems try to sound professionally objective but, in reality, are voicing an opinion based on their personal preferences.
My first wine trip alone was to Mosel….. ❤❤❤
Love Riesling in all forms. My favorite was from the 2001 vintage that the producer mislabeled their Auslese as Kabinett.
Riesling Kabinett is our favorite Riesling style. I wish we could get more of the best German producers stateside.
It would be an interesting video if you tasted wines from all 50 U.S. States.
I love kabinett wines! Thankfully I have cellared quite a bit including JJ Prûm & Julian Haart. Just need to keep my hands off :)
A suggestion for your next videos could be exploring emerging great producers i.e. rising stars from different regions that are not yet overprice
Fun to watch! I'm drinking my Prüm Wehlener Sonnenuhr Kabinetts from 2001, and they're delicious.
@KonstantinBaumMasterofWine
11 ай бұрын
I bet!
Heading to the wine shop now. It’s been a few years since I had a decent one. Might have to make a few stops.
Will your new website have an overview of all your ratings? Would love to have that
For me it's Ansgar Clüsserath and Forstmeister Geltz m! Also the Wines from Horst Sauer wich sadly i can't afford... by the way nice content as always! Greetings from Germany
Kabinett is by far the most common style of wine that I have been drinking this year. Almost so much I'm growing a bit tired of it. Nah, I take that back, that's probably not possible. I was sipping a Haart Piesporter Goldtröpfchen Spätlese 2011 while watching.
You had me at "breakfast wine."
I believe kabinett was the wine to which Julia Child, The French Chef, was referring when she called Riesling a good breakfast wine.
Kabinett, very under estimated imho. Especially here in the Netherlands, where riesling by 'law' stil means sweeter than sweeter juice. I love Kabinett. Bought way too much from the Saar recently.
What would you pair with, loved this video
Works great with spicy food!
Great video, watched it twice. If I can just suggest one thing is to also mention price next time
Hi Konstantin. Really enjoy your videos. Just a question: Are non-Riesling Kabinett worth trying? Would you recommend any? Thanks.
Hi, thanks for the review. What do you think of Rieslings farmed in other parts of the world if you’d had any?
Thanks a lot for another great tasting! Do you think that Kabinett and other good quality feinherb Riesling are discernible in blind tasting?
Yep! I love that style. Quite a few available from Wine Society here in UK. Would be interesting to know the prices Leon paid for the five bottles. I remember 1976 was a sensational year in Germany - bought some Beerenauslese from Majestic which lasted forever.
@schferleon
11 ай бұрын
The prices are listed in the descriptions. They don't exactly match what I paid (I paid a little less because I'm looking up international prices that are higher than local rates in this case), but roughly that should work. Absolutely, 1976 is legendary.
@angusmcmillan8981
11 ай бұрын
@@schferleon Great, thanks. I wish I'd bought more 1976! Here's a bit of linguistic pedantry... we Brits are taught that the word UNIQUE can't be qualified. If something is unique there is only one of it. It's unique and that's that. To write that something is very unique, most unique etc would have got a red line crossed through it from my English language teacher at school. However, I will continue to watch Herr Baum because he is unique.
Yet another great video 👍👍Kabinet is king 👑👑 Recently, I have also discovered «Feinherb», also a type of German Riesling - and maybe a topic for a future video? Overall, Germany produces many top quality wines 🍻🍷
“Eins, Zwei, Not so Drei” 😂 that actually got me.