and Suning with an unknown Roster just miraculously went into finals with crazy off-meta picks and builds, good lol year that was

@vunguyenlong5738

4 ай бұрын

Aint nothing compared to DRX 2022 run, THE ABSOLUTE BEST run in all of LoL history

@VorTexow

4 ай бұрын

@@vunguyenlong5738stop it

@vez3834

4 ай бұрын

​@@vunguyenlong5738Doesn't mean we can't appreciate other years.

@NNRedemption

4 ай бұрын

Yeah. Imagine huanfeng was literally abondend from His Parents and Had to educate His own siblings.

@thaerren

4 ай бұрын

@@vunguyenlong5738DRX frauds

I really miss prime damwon and their players

Ghost played incredibly well given the fact that he was nowhere near the most important player for the team. He was constantly left on the island with his support to get ahead by himself or to stay even while soaking pressure. Can’t buy that type of player! What a G

@austinbecraft1222

4 ай бұрын

Also, Nuclear is nowhere near as good as Ghost.

@LoLAthlete

4 ай бұрын

He really enabled BeryL to move around the map, I think part of the reason Damwon’s jungle/support (and mid/support) synergy was so high was cause Ghost could be trusted to still be an ADC without being prioritized

@Blazed-bl3jl

4 ай бұрын

he reminded me of how bang used to play later on his career. Not great lane wise but incredible calmness in teamfights that sealed wins whilst allowing other members to carry

@nathanhosea489

4 ай бұрын

@@Blazed-bl3jl Bang was always like that, in lane he was never as good as PraY/Uzi/Deft, but in teamfights nobody was better

@nathanaelsallhageriksson1719

4 ай бұрын

​@@nathanhosea489 Nobody was better.... Except priviously mentioned PraY, Deft and Uzi.... And at the very end Teddy too. Also Ruler. Ghost and Bang weren't there because they were the best, they were there because they had the perfect set of skills for their team and at a high enough level to win.

I was a damwon fan at the time and that split is a dream come true. They are at the top of LCK standings, they won LCK, they are the seed 1 and the favorite to win worlds and they didn't disappoint. Just straight up won everything

@Starguard631

4 ай бұрын

saddens me honestly they wont be able i believe to make it to worlds once again. GenG and T1 are again now the dominate forces in korea.

@ronlanders7354

4 ай бұрын

Dk 20 is best lck team ever, so dominant in macro and team fighting. Even if you won a team fight against dk, you lost so much in return due to how dk positioned minions to take towers etc.

@aioibin

4 ай бұрын

🤔

@TimidDarkrai

4 ай бұрын

​@@ronlanders7354Skt 2015 is the best team of all time

@ArcaneTricksterRS

4 ай бұрын

Maybe the best roster in the history. Peak performance of the players who are top 3 in their position in the world.

Ghost was the one that stood out for me in 2020 dwg. The man was so consistent and reliable. Didnt need flashy plays to be effective and that's a sign of a top class adc

@MinteeMusic

4 ай бұрын

He was like a better and more consistent version of Zven in G2

ghost reminds me of fpx gimgoon, he was also the key for fpx in 2019, it's almost like you don't need all superstars, just need good weakside players to sacrifice for the super carries to enable themselves.

@suckemfuckem7777

4 ай бұрын

Ain't no way

REALLY well made video. Love following player careers through videos like this. Well done man

This is exactly what Im saying, not every team needs a flashy adc. When you have Nuguri top a SM on mid, there are not enough resources for you all and playing supportive champ around solo lanes is as valid strategy as funneling all into adc. You could see that year same thing with Sunning, Huanfeng had a very similar style, playing his jhin, hepling Bin and Angel. Thank you so much for praising Ghost because he deserves that

@genelionhart8806

4 ай бұрын

For real, everyone wants to be a flashy carry when it's better to be consistent and stable. That's why i also like gumayusi. People always compliment zeus and keria when guma enabled them to be flashy by playing the weakside carry. I like showmaker and canyon but ghost was the true unsung hero enabling these players to do what they do

@snt03

4 ай бұрын

yeah, not every team needs a flashy adc if you have good players in the other roles. Same could be said for mid, top, or jg. But do you really think the team wouldn't be better with a 'flashy' adc like ruler or viper?

You always need people like him in a winning team. People who individually are good but not great yet play their roles to perfection and are willing to sacrifice their personal glory for the good of the team. The recent T1 team and SSW are probably the only teams to win Worlds with 5 mechanically talented stars. The other teams? They've always had people who individually have gone under the radar. GimGoon, Baolan, Duke, Ghost, Flandre, Crown, Bengi, vice versa.

@yassirelhidani6803

4 ай бұрын

I think it's only this iteration of T1 that had 5 stars mechanically gifted players , maybe I'm underrating looper , but SSW and T1 are the only teams that are stacked and won worlds , maybe 2015 Skt is close

@nathanhosea489

4 ай бұрын

​​@@yassirelhidani6803 You are. Dude was a beast. And you're also right about 2015 SKT, Bengi while not very talented mechanically, was an absolute monster in terms of map awareness

@genelionhart8806

4 ай бұрын

You can add guma here too. As much as he is mechanically gifted, bro's playing weakside carries to let keria and zeus cook. Always the underrated player in T1 overshadowed by his flashy supp.

@nathanhosea489

4 ай бұрын

@@genelionhart8806 I agree. And in a bot side meta the dude has always made his share of mistakes. But not many players are like him, he might not have the peaks of let's say Viper/GALA, but on the biggest stage, he almost always steps up

@canzouxfps

4 ай бұрын

@@nathanhosea489 Of all the adcs coming in worlds the only guy i don't doubt is gumas form even if he underperforms in spring or summer guy somehow bounce back and be a god in worlds 2022 was an example that varus stealing was just chefs kiss although they only got runners up guy was a highlight reel lol

I think i remember I've read the article in X, Ghost is teamless this year no one pick him up even in the lpl only in brazil, he didnt want to go there so he force to retire himself for this year

@NewEliteOrder

4 ай бұрын

Is he only retiring for this year or is it a definite retirement?

@canzouxfps

4 ай бұрын

At that time lck adcs were stack and some were investing in homegrown mechanically gifted young bloods no one wanted a weak side adc also the meta pretty much shifted back to adc dominant not top side.

@JY-mh8fr

4 ай бұрын

@@NewEliteOrder I've seen it now it was on 2023 the time he was teamless then on Dec no team still pick him up so he retires on pro play and become a streamer at DK

@JY-mh8fr

4 ай бұрын

@@canzouxfps yes and that was pretty much his role at 20-21 damwon. The other lanes was so dominant to carry like canyon and showmaker, he's at ziggs duty most of the time.

LoL Athlete 🐐

Wow, I was thinking “what happened to ghost” yesterday on my way to work .,, and sure enough, a video on the topic was upload

true organized player, true role-player, true mental master, true attack-damage-carry. DK's Legend. no doubt.

Him and Nuguri’s retirement hurt me so much. Find happiness wherever you guys go we wont forget you !

Not gonna lie. He and ShowMaker made me a Damwon Fan.

@eryalmario5299

4 ай бұрын

I love showmaker - he's the only other Korean pro other than DoinB that does off meta builds.

@qawiemmt

4 ай бұрын

showmaker, chovy, faker.. once they are gone one day.. the team wont be the same.. they are truely what makes people love the team

@DZNTSONYCH

4 ай бұрын

@@eryalmario5299 Keria?

@eryalmario5299

4 ай бұрын

@@DZNTSONYCH in midlane

He was a key piece in dw, he wasn't a penta reeler like viper but was reliable in most games. When dw wanted "star" players and let beryl and ghost go. They turned horrible.

Great video!

Ghost is so much better when he's playing a skill type champions instead of on hits.

Its interesting to think that some worlds Winners can often go off into the sunset never being praised, Like I couldn't even remember Baolan unless I searched an IG game its weird honestly

the only guy where they show a damwon game and he was like 5/0 everytime getting 0 attention. Truly underrated.

incredible video man, keep up the good work

Ghost was the best with jhin and ashe which need no flashy mechanic but wide map sight. And really reliable for 1 vs 2 lane phase which let Beryl make a play.

omg ghost recognition lets goooo

crazy good history story telling

5:52 little correction, during LCK summer 2019 Sandbox finished BELOW Damwon, and ABOVE SKT. That was inverted in Spring, but SB finished 4th then

Ghost is an incredible weak side botlane who can carry with minimal resources which allowed DWG incredible solo laners and jungler to shine he is their strongest pillar

It's funny how despite having 4 players vying to be the best in the world at the time, the missing piece of the puzzle was a player that was extremely unremarkable. However, behind every successful team in any sport, including esport, you need players that may seem unremarkable but are willing to make the sacrifices to help the team shine. Players that are willing to do anything to bring success are the ones that can make the superstars truly shine.

Nuguri I miss him and ghost too

Ghost was literally a role player not a terrible one not a great one ngl don't see how he was underrated as that is what everyone at the time said he was

I always thought Ghost was PERFECT for Damwon. A superstar top laner, a superstar mid laner, a superstar jungler, and a shotcalling and often roaming support, I don't think Ghost ever needed to be a huge carry, but he brought stability and consistency to the bot lane.

I remember Ghost from BBQ I remember watching him alot because I was a fan of IgNar at the time, I always though he was really good and aggressive

I always thought Bang was the most underrated world champ he has one of the most stacked trophy cabinets with some big highlight reels but there will always be question mark next to him because he played on a team with prime Faker and Marin

It's crazy to see the teams of 2016 in 3:33 and only SKT and KT are still in the lck, while every other team disbanded or got picked up by another organisation.

My Favorit Skin DWG Jhin thanks ghost

Man i just remenber that DWG and Google them, ghost , khan , nuguri. How all of them are retired now?

@valiboss2012

4 ай бұрын

All of them beside khan who had to do the military service most of them decide to retire from esports , not having that much success after winning worlds maybe they are streaming

@nathanhosea489

4 ай бұрын

​@@valiboss2012 BeryL, Canyon, and ShowMaker are still active. Nuguri, Ghost, Nuclear, and Khan are retired

@valiboss2012

4 ай бұрын

yeah i was making refference at Ghost , Nuclear and Khan I love watching showmaker he played today @@nathanhosea489

@aram69420

4 ай бұрын

Injuries and meta shifts are a thing in esports, so it's not easy to keep your skill level high for a long time. Khan started earlier than you think so it's understandable he retired (he's older than Faker). Nuguri retired because of injuries and health issues. Ghost was just bad. Ghost is the type of adc where the c means "consistent" but not "carry", without his teammates in peak form he can't carry so it's easy to understand no organization wants him anymore.

Damwon fan forever

please do one with rush!

This guy is not underrated, he was just never a top tier adc, plain and simple.

I think DW at the time was great tbh, it was really ... surprising DW fans/coaches hated on Ghost so much. Ghost was literally the simple player that did his job and let his team shine. You don't really need 5 plays to always shine and Ghost can just afk in the back and let the enemies dive for him.

this video isn’t about flandre

Just watching the clip that starts at 8:12 seeing Nuclear decide to Killer Instinct into the backline of KZ by himself makes me laugh cause lil bro really made it easy for Ghost to come in and be better than him. What a run in 2020 though, nice job by Damwon!

Lock the doors cause thorin, monte and iwd are gonna come with a vengeance for this video.

When do we get the gbay99 hazmat lolathlete triforce crossover

finally someone realize Ghost's real worth on a championship team like DWG. I remember people criticize him as a weak bot laner but missing the part that he's just doing his role to play weak side the whole time.

He may not strong but he is the most suitable player for DK

The most underrated weak-side ADC.

are u insane this guy got giga fking carried , all he had to do in this roster was exist

thanks for this feature. haters gonna hate lmao they look at Ghost as a terrible player because they look at stats in a vacuum and hopelessly terminally ill with soloq brainrot lmao. players just can't say they don't like how he plays because they don't want such flexibility to find success. kinda funny how he's named Ghost relating to how his contributions to Damwon were difficult to quantify (ie invisible) but as you said two back-to-back Worlds Finals will never be achieved by most other "better" ADCs

a lot of people pointed fingers at the bot lane for being the problem of dk once they leaved the problem got bigger. now they dont have support.

@LoLAthlete

4 ай бұрын

Damwon without BeryL just isn’t the same

@JUNGLEsausage

4 ай бұрын

I think you're forgetting that Nuguri left as well.

@velatacu

4 ай бұрын

@@LoLAthlete shits crazy man dat jg mid duo gave us an easy top 5 bo5 in worlds vs geng without a botlane and half toplane. now i need KT to win worlds vs t1 and let bdd hold the doble cup.

@velatacu

4 ай бұрын

@@JUNGLEsausage yea ofc but nobody said that nuguri was the problem of dk. they got khan that was solid then the burdol/nuguri accident happened. they couldn’t gather a good bot lane since. i fw aiming tho. if they had signed aiming+lehends it could have been better.

@1v9machine_1

4 ай бұрын

I think it was completely fair to blame Ghost/Beryl for the 2021 finals loss as they did get gapped by Viper/Meiko. However it blows my mind that DK were willing to blow up considering they were literally 1 game away from being world champions again.

what people dont really realize is that consistency is much more deadlier than being flashy and it all applies to all roles

2020 damwon was insane

It's the old Dyrus strategy

it is not liiv Sandbox anymore it is FearX- FOX

as much as i love ghost in 2021 he kinda inted alot

Was an interesting watch, seeing the history of ghost. Of all the ADC that have won world since S3, I still think he is the weakest by far relative to others that were in contention for their respective years and the weakest member of that Damwon winning roster. Although, he definitely caught way more blame for Damwon's eventual downfall than warranted. He wasn't very exceptional, but he didn't really need to be because his team was really good and he just had to play his role in it.

Part of the question on his competence as a player comes from the fact that he doesn't play the carry role in a team despite his position being AD carry. His play style is far from most of the renowned AD carries like ruler, uzi, deft, etc... Also his failure after leaving DWG didn't help for his reputation.

The team the saved LCK's Dark years has been labeled as the most underrated worlds champion

Baby deft was crazy, and Ghost to this day i'm hoping is on a roster. People flame him, but he and Deft are so low-economy and efficient. I really don't like Ruler-style players who eat up so many resources, and then they HAVE TO carry 1v9. It's why to me, Deft has always been over Uzi and Ruler

Imo another extremely underrated player was gimgoom as history proved , nuguri couldn’t replace him gimgoom was often criticized but he was maybe the best player in that roster

I rewatched 2020 worlds and ranked ghost as the 2nd best player of the tournament only behind canyon, he doesnt get the respect he deserves for that tournament because it was a bit of an outlier in his career

i think there was a poopy in my pants

my ears antithesis and jankos, good video though :)

These comments are glazing tf out of ghost is he not the worst adc to win worlds?

Haven’t even watched the video yet but I’m so excited to see a Ghost segment done! Thank you! Will edit my post after I see the video. Edit: perfectly explained Ghost’s dynamic career! Loved it. I am the biggest CJ Entus fan and remembered when BDD and Ghost came to the team as the “saviors” of the team. I’m sure the pressure was immense and difficult for the rookies. Then to get relegated back to back like that has to be career destroying if not confidence destroying for a young player. Ghost’s career is one of the rare times where hard work actually paid off versus raw talent.

Hang on, was that Faker on Poppy mid

@KermRiv

4 ай бұрын

Dope, the yeet hammer is based.

All I remember was Ghost being the only reason they ever looked beatable, what?! Dude was the worst player to ever win worlds, right after Pyosik.

Amazing story and player, ty. Also, ask for subbing before starting the story, I think is unfair to provide these well made videos and ppl are not subbing 😤

I think all of the players in damwon fit very well. It just sucks that they let go of beryl, khan, and ghost after 2021 Worlds. They are really 1 win away from winning both MSI AND WORLDS. I think it's just a bad organization move from Damwon at that time. When they lost their bot lane the team just crumbled. they could not return from their form with deokdam and kellin. and I think Beryl and ghost was farm more better duo than beryl and deft.

@morello3000

4 ай бұрын

saying that beryl and ghost are a far more better duo than beryl and deft is a wild statement considering they won worlds aswell and even tough ghost was part of the reason they won worlds, he himself as an adc player was just below average. Deft could do what he did but better.

@mickoalhwint.andrada8080

4 ай бұрын

Damwon won 3peat in lck againts titan teams and they sweep drx in finals and quarters.. Remember it was deft and keria at bot lane and chovy, pyosik and doran at top lane yet they got destroyed 3-0 and deft was completely outclassed by ghost but didn't get much credit because of that

@morello3000

4 ай бұрын

@@mickoalhwint.andrada8080 well Damwon was the best team by far and they rightfully won worlds. Wow congrats that Ghost was able to outperform Deft who had massive back injuries back then. Before 2020 Ghost accomplished nothing and never did again after Damwon. He got lucky to even be in DWG 2020 as he was still teamless in february and just started playing for them in week 2 of the LCK. Put any other adc in that 2020 DWG and the result would be the same.

5:10 wtf is this grf roster

Yeah right, Ghost. He won worlds doing the usual job of any ad carries. Nothing special about him, of course he's rightfully underrated. Midking - Jugking - Nuguri. Damwon already have powerhouse carry roles.

Playing weak side is better now that gold funneling hyper carry. Cus your hyper carry adc will be shredded in a second while playing weak side yes they will be have a hard time but they will scale eventually Hence senna is really good rn

I'm a DK fan and yes he was the best weak side ADC in 2020, but sadly him and Khan choked hard in 2021 :( and damwon from 2021 has been declining.

Ghost reminds me of Kuroko.

Khan was so good

What about lwx? Pro players like dl rated him even lower than ghost

The weakside adc king, Ghost. This guy might not have the mechanics to carry but he will never int, and he will do his job as an AD(C(?)).

He had the easiest championship win out of all ADC's. He had hard carry Mid, Jungle and Top. Just think about in SoloQ when playing ADC your team is hard carrying, you have one job farm under and don't do anything stupid. This is the perfect team for Rekkles if you think about it😁😁

tbh ghost was the best adc that dk could have had for their playstyle. leave him on an island let canyon and beryl do their thing he wont feed given his weak side solo bot lane playstyle and still got a couple games he carried. the meta ofc played kinda well for dk as well that worlds cause you dont had to have that carry adc to even win games but i like to compare that with bengi and faker. no one would say that bengi is a better jungler than canyon in terms of carry potential but for how t1 played and how they draft bengi was the best jungler they could have asked for.

@MinteeMusic

4 ай бұрын

Never understood why they replaced him unless he left on his own to another team

@QIYICI

4 ай бұрын

because when your top side is underperforming, there is zero carry threat. you can see how he struggled when meta shifted in MSI 2021. And how DK was desperate to get Ziggs or Jhin for him in 2021 Worlds. @@MinteeMusic

@jaspherodon1054

4 ай бұрын

in terms of achievements wise bengi but in longevity canyon

@nathanhosea489

4 ай бұрын

​@@MinteeMusic Because times were changing. The meta wasn't always going to be a top side meta, and Ghost while reliable, didn't have the highs of let's say Ruler in a bot side meta. And also because Canyon wanted BeryL gone after that Worlds

Please make a Hashinshin video

How did you manage to butcher both jankos and nuclear usernames. One is heard all the time in the scene and the other is just casual English word...

So, a very important question. How much did Caedrel pay you to make this? 😂

>shit before he joined damwon >managed to not disgustingly int on damwon >shit after he left damwon underrated goat, surely he's the reason they won!

@Jayceys

4 ай бұрын

Damwon are back to back world champs if they viper instead of him

the biggest problem for their lack of fame was their opponents during this time G2 was the strongest team in the world no doubt they were definitely the team to beat however they were pretty much not viewed as a team that can rival previous worlds finalist and as such even if DK won they didn't really defeat a strong enemy or faced a challenge as G2 still have yet to earn the respect of most Asian fans.

@issacchung2994

Ай бұрын

No way you said G2 was the strongest team in the world ☠☠

Adc cánh yếu giỏi nhất lịch sử tựa game

Video could’ve ended at 14:45 felt a little dragged out after with the commentary

Wtf is this 😂😂😂😂 praising bloody ghost - what the actual fck

probably the most overrated at the same time meta was on there side

The commentary is using an AI voice? Some really weird pronunciation issues.

＞uzi

I'm sorry but this doc gets a lot of things wrong.

The thing is they are not underrated T1 and faker prove that 1 championship or 1 good year isn't enough to be consider the best. It's about consistency. . . . . . . . 👇♿👇♿👇

@Vealdebate

4 ай бұрын

ah yes, he isn't Faker. Interesting contribution.

@lagerinopino6012

4 ай бұрын

@@Vealdebate perdona pequeño Timmi,capas no entendiste la idea. Catador de japis.

ghost was shit asf, there is a reason why he doesnt have a team. jhin, ziggs two trick

The Most underrated world Champion? Fnatic 2011 says hello. In the year fnatic was Not even top three in Europe so IT was a big upset that they qualified AS third seed and Not SK gaming. EU was the worst Region in this year. China consideree the best Region didnt wualifiy for worlds. Clg which woin season Zero "worlds" failed hard in the Tournament..... Epik Gamers and tsm underperformed....... The big Problem which fnatic Had which Gamed and AAA didnt was the lsnguage barrier.

Ghost is fkin washedup lmfao

Lmao, literally just weaker LWX

ghost was a very overrated adc

he is not underrated, Ghost fucking sucks and that's OK. He can play weak side adc well enough so his other laners can carry

i think drx was more underrated

@xDanielzao

4 ай бұрын

this is about a player not a team

@mortystraphouse5077

4 ай бұрын

lmao

@skrattaoppar9753

4 ай бұрын

lets break it down, everyone knows Beryl, everyone knows Pyosik, everyone knows Zeka now, everyone knows Deft and everyone knows Kingen. not really underrated

@fvjxznvueaepd8u

4 ай бұрын

Wdym lol DRX run was probably the most popular and most hyped run in the league

@mortystraphouse5077

4 ай бұрын

@@fvjxznvueaepd8u he talkin about a player not a team!

ghost was average at best.......

Ghost is so underrated.