Love the hardcore overkill assembly montage for this sort of build. The incongruity is fantastic. Excellent work

The most practical build for my parents always was my old rig after building a new one. Prebuild and tested for no costs, can't beat that.

@billwiley7216

2 жыл бұрын

I do the same, pass my old rig to family members that just do browsing, normal online type of activities. Actually this system I am currently typing this on will be one of those systems it is a 6700k, 16g 3200mhz ram, 1 tb adata ssd, 1tb samsung ssd, Seasonic 650 w PSU and I will swap out the current 1070 gpu and just put in a 570 gpu from an even older build and the case is a Cooler Master Haf XP EVO. I will finish my Alder Lake gaming rig build within about the next week or so and make my current 10700k rig my everyday browsing rig.

@FastSloth87

2 жыл бұрын

I used to do that until a few years ago when I noticed they stopped using the PC and just used their phones for everything.

@CakePrincessCelestia

2 жыл бұрын

@@FastSloth87 I've seen that movie as well... :)

@christopherschmeltz3333

2 жыл бұрын

I usually keep the upgraded video card and power supply to reduce the initial purchase price of parts for my new rig when passing the old rig to my parents. 😉 For some reason, I like hoarding spare parts instead of selling them.

@billwiley7216

2 жыл бұрын

@@christopherschmeltz3333 Problem is usually the build I gift is around 4 years or so old and now something like a PSU that was an adequate amount of watts for the old build will not cut it for the newer more power hungry hardware. Also again same with the video card as by that point they are a couple of generations old and if looking for top performance with the new build you are sacrificing performance of the rig by retaining the several generation old GPU which in some ways negates doing the build. If you are a gamer generally the newer series GPU will have a much larger performance impact in most games than a CPU a few generations old as long as the initial build used a good chip to start with.

It’d be really cool to see these cool “day-to-day” builds that are meant for situations like this or a good setup for office work. Just very refreshing to see this stuff

@frizzlefry1921

2 жыл бұрын

Especially now that the high end is $2,500 usd on the low end! It’s just gotten completely out of control.

@lord_haven1114

2 жыл бұрын

For office work just get a used thinkpad; maybe t480. Done and done. Those things are amazing.

@ViXoZuDo

2 жыл бұрын

This is still a bad build... a 5600G would cost the same and have better performance.

@chrispeters8555

2 жыл бұрын

@@frizzlefry1921 You mean mid range right.... a high end PC your spending close to 2 grand for a GPU... and prices are close to MSRP now

@frizzlefry1921

2 жыл бұрын

@@chrispeters8555 Yeah basically my mind won’t allow me to type it even…

This set a new standard for all build montages ever, for every youtuber. I was laughing so hard at the absurdity of how good the build montage was compared to how mediocre this computer was. 11/10 Phil.

I love how much work Phil put into the montage,, he did more then Jay building the system itself.

@LividAxis

2 жыл бұрын

Pretty sure it gave me cancer

@SpiiiiiceeMAN

2 жыл бұрын

back then this was how adverts of companies were made so it makes sense why theirs like an epic dubstep music with swirl bits in the camera movement lol

@awilliams1701

2 жыл бұрын

That was impressive how it was synced to the music.

@tanaka-san3802

2 жыл бұрын

Pc building knowledge vs creativity. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

@mfidino7198

2 жыл бұрын

This made my morning, was watching a simple feel good video and BOOM dubstep headbanger.

Whoever edited the reveal of the full assembly section deserves a raise that was awesome

@DarthChewie

2 жыл бұрын

It was Phil.

@The1neo34

2 жыл бұрын

The best edit / montage for the worst build. wtf

@Lhamb

2 жыл бұрын

@@The1neo34 omg no way jay didn't build a pc with 4 3090's and a 5950x oc'd to 1902375980136813ghz??????!!?!?!?!??! such a dogshit build

@trevorhummer9179

2 жыл бұрын

True

Jay: "This won't be a gaming rig." Jay, later: "Maybe VR knitting..." Gramma gaming rig: "I am inevitable..."

@m4dizzle

2 жыл бұрын

Grandma's going to be pwning n00bs in no time

@RAVENSEYE25

2 жыл бұрын

"I am inevitable..." bahahaha

@Kittenspreee

2 жыл бұрын

I mean, despite not being able to run windows 11(not sure if he altered the build later since that was a prerequisite for them) if they have kids or grandkids and want to eventually use the pc to play Minecraft or Fortnite they have the ability to plug in a gpu, install the drivers and go.

I swear, Phil can make ANYTHING look awesome with how he does the montage, Great job by everyone.

doing this same thing for my dad. i find it more fun to work within a budget honestly. while it is pretty cool to go all out, the challenge of finding what will fit in the budget and where to make compromises makes it even more interesting.

Yes Jay, they make DVD Drives that are SATA powered, and I have one I'd like to find an external USB enclosure for, since most cases these days don't have, and mine in particular doesn't have, a 5¼ bay... If I would have had a higher cost Fractal Design case, like the 6 or 7 model, I would have had the option to buy a bay add-on, but I bought the Meshify C, so I don't have that capability...

@wdd6864

2 жыл бұрын

As soon as Jay asked I almost fell off the chair

@BeardedDanishViking

2 жыл бұрын

What possible use could you have for an optical drive in 2022??

@DirtySoap

2 жыл бұрын

Holy cow, I leave a long comment to be helpful and KZread hides it.

@DirtySoap

2 жыл бұрын

I have external enclosures for such drives but you're better off getting a USB powered DVD or Blu Ray drive. They're very affordable.

@macking104

2 жыл бұрын

fractal design has some cases with external 5.25" bays... with 2 fans in front.

I did not expect a build montage for this pc but as always, Phil did amazing!

@Dennzer1

2 жыл бұрын

the rhythmically timed fade out at the end was multi faceted and perfectly executed.

My first build was done with this case almost 5 yrs ago. Ryzen 5 2600 on an Asrock b450 , 16 gb of ADATA 3200 memory and a GTX 1660 with a 550 watt rosewill psu. i put a cd drive in it and it's been a great system

It feels really odd looking at my new PC which has not only a SATA BluRay drive from 2021, but also a SATA regular drive from 2010. "Do they even make optical drives with SATA?" Yes Jay. For the past at least 12 years, they have done so.

@TheWolfster001

2 жыл бұрын

Yup, 2010 was a good year for pc's everything was sata (at that point) and if Jay was a tech, he would know that also you needed a cd/dvd drive to load software.. I love watching, but sometimes I think (most) you tube computer guru's don't remember tech over 5 years old, since they think anything over a couple years old is out dated.. Just my thought..

@MrJr1976

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheWolfster001 Regardless, I've made sure I have as many "older" parts within. Parts such as optical drives, floppy drives, serial ports, etc

@deViant14

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheWolfster001 much more enjoyable to install Ventoy on a flash drive and drop like 5 different ISOs on there

@lagginswag

2 жыл бұрын

I always keep a sata dvdrw around for my main pc even if most cases don't have them. (my cougar mx330 does though) Have a couple ide ones as well, beige not black 🤣

@MrJr1976

2 жыл бұрын

@coldbrewscience In some ways, but having an optical means I can rip my own media. I have been kicking myself the past 5 years not having an optical drive in my current PC

I’d like to see more of these budget builds. Then do a radically overkill build.

@Apocalyman

2 жыл бұрын

Oooo we going bitwit style

@jerrardbeasley4247

2 жыл бұрын

@@Apocalyman Agreed....It doesn't have to be this basic, but quite frankly and this goes against the grain and what his channel is known for, but I really don't care too much about custom water cooling with 3090s.

@AC-yj8cx

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. I've got parents computers I need to run. They're currently running i3-2100 just fine (yes, 2nd gen i3). I'll need to upgrade them once Win10 is dead.

@samuelredden642

2 жыл бұрын

Radical overkill build yes please!

@gorkskoal9315

2 жыл бұрын

@@Apocalyman is that wif lyle? lol. bitwit and christoperyee somehow manage to have turned budget into a masterclass on fleamarket buys. I don't know how the hell either of them can put to gether something for 500 or what ever that'll play some AAA titles at stupidly high frame rates

You know, I'm something of a practical builder myself. Love seeing budgeted PCs builds getting the job done! I love this vid!

That's why I like this channel, Jay always explore when it comes to build and budgets. Not just that, he also guide you to a different view on budget based builds.

Phil does an awesome job with his videography once again! Also... way to cue up those good beats

I told my parents for their next PC to NOT buy some prebuilt Dell like they always do and that I can build them something better for cheaper. They seemed a bit skeptical but have agreed. The hardest part is going to be building to my parents' needs, not my own needs lmao

@audiophobia82

2 жыл бұрын

My friend needs a 500 Dollar maximum pc for only KZread and windows. I could build it for maybe 200, but i cannot decide for the really cheap shit

@ReptilianLaserbeam

2 жыл бұрын

My dad wanted to buy a computer for my siblings school a couple years back, and he was going to go for an overpriced AIO, something like 1k with terrible specs. It took a while to convince him but with less than 300 I build them a solid machine with a ryzen APU that has been rocking for I think 4 years now, zero issues. Edit: He was not happy I didn't add a 'CD-rom unit' in there

This what the PC hobby is about. Sure you build your own PC's, but Jay....you helped a family member of a friend with spare components that hadn't been used in years. You gathered those parts to build a budget PC for his Grandmother. That's why I love your channel. Paying it forward and helping others in need when you can. Take care... Cheers.

i really enjoyed this honestly. i like to see builds that arnt the typical "cheap gaming pc" or "overkill gaming pc" its nice to see what a normal new build would be. i would have liked to see a price breakdown for this too just for the simple fact it adds a nice little layer to it that makes it more engaging

A Very down to earth PC that handles content consumption easily. Grandma will definitely be happy with that. Also, VR Knitting? Seriously?

@joshuaxiong8377

2 жыл бұрын

Give her Skyrim instead. lol

@ChrisEtch22

2 жыл бұрын

Grandma may have enjoyed a SFF build for her use case. Idk about full tower. I also would have thought that a i gpu cpu would have made more sense too? Regardless I appreciate the content!

@76TyranT76

2 жыл бұрын

If they can make Goat or Sheep Simulator AR, I'm sure they could do VR / AR Knitting with combo colors and patterns with Candy Crush or Bejewels style puzzles that you need to knit.

You can definitely still get DVD drives. Internal SATA ones are like $20-30, and external USB ones are $30-40

@TheFourthWinchester

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I have a SATA one.

These sort of low budget builds are a lot more interesting, I think, because the budget constraints makes a builder think more carefully about part selection and where to divert resources towards, depending on the use case.

Great and simple build. Though personally, I'd have thrown in a simple 1TB HDD on top of the SSD and refer /Videos, /Pictures and /Documents onto that drive for storage. My granny and non-tech parts of the family are big on gathering pictures, videos and "homework" (for lack of a better word) like hamsters.

@SiliconPower74

2 жыл бұрын

2TB HDD cost almost the same as 1TB drives. Just checked in amazon, the seagate 1TB has the same price as the 2 TB model.

@Robert-wq1sz

2 жыл бұрын

I'd say 2x1TB or 2x2TB in a RAID-1. Non-computer people don't pay attention to the early warning signs of drive failure. Can you image someone losing decades of home movies and pictures? Devastating. For them.

@gorkskoal9315

2 жыл бұрын

def. IMO SDDs have a looooong ways to go for price. And when they fail, its just bad. A regular old school mechanical drive for a sweet spot of 2-4 TBs , on top of a SSD is (IMO) a much better idea.

@supercool_saiyan5670

2 жыл бұрын

@@gorkskoal9315 this is why the SSD is for booting and other speedy things, and important shit goes on a mechanical hard drive

@Kittenspreee

2 жыл бұрын

@@Robert-wq1sz everyone I’ve built a pc for in the last few years after has had super janky old hdds, while I download the drivers and install the essential programs I also set up their pictures/video folders to a google drive upload and put the app on their phone. Just some qol for them in the future and it takes me zero effort.

this was a nice change of pace. really quick and simple build. I think another good video option would be the most available gaming pc. Basic build a system with a valuation of $1k-$1500 with parts that are available at or close to msrp.

@DigitalJedi

2 жыл бұрын

So that's gonna be an APU build if you go by pricing in my region at least. 3050s are going for 3070 money here.

@tommybaker4330

2 жыл бұрын

None of the major components available on Amazon unless you want to pay scalper prices. Mobo, chip and video card available eBay used and refurbed for $300 +/-.

@smurfjegeren9739

2 жыл бұрын

Going for that price here would be an i3 12th gen with a 6600xt/rtx 3050/gtx 1660ti and 16GB of ram. Maybe a bit better on the ryzen side

I built a very similar computer for my mother (who is also a grandma) using a 2200G a couple years ago. Rosewill case and Cooler Master psu also! pretty cool to see these kinds of builds honestly.

Thank you Jay. This is an ACTUAL budget build. When Linus did his and he pulled out a B550 board, 5600x cpu, fractal case and a 6500xt card...zero discontinued parts isnt a budget build in the slightest

@nickh8649

2 жыл бұрын

This is a budget build for media consumption and storage. Linus' build was a budget build for modern gaming and it definitely is a budget build

I was having a really crappy day, but of course, Jay being Jay cheered me up. Thanks for your fun content and cheerful demeanor!

I would be MORE THAN happy with a system like that! I think you made one grandma very happy! 👍👍

That was a great video, and refreshing to see a practical build. Really well done.

What is awesome about this build is that is so simple yet so upgradeable... that machine will last for a decade or more!

I did a build in that same case for my brother that needed a Blu ray drive in it, I used the bay below it for a multi media port so it could easily accept stuff like camera cards and other min storage devices on the fly. It worked well and the case other then being dated and without a glass side panel was solid in almost every way. Even the power button had a solid toggle to it. Mine I think was a little beefier amd2600 with 1 tb storage and different cheap (at the time) GPU but otherwise the same.

Great to see realistic content like this. Thank you!

I love these budget builds. I'm always surprised just how well old hardware can handle basic computing tasks. For about $40 you can get a new SSD, and $20 more gets you another 8GB of used RAM. Those parts plus a fresh install of Windows, and you have a pretty zippy computer.

@ReptilianLaserbeam

2 жыл бұрын

exactly, and people with basic needs can have a good computer for a couple hundreds for at least 5 or more years. But they go to BestBuy and the salesperson pushes really hard on an absurdly bad AIO that goes for 1k because anything lower than that *won't* work.

Tight budget or just budget builds with older/used parts are always refreshing to see on the big YT tech channels. Since right now it sucks to buy new parts what with all the availability issues and the GPU prices being absurd, I think more people tend to buy used parts. I know I would. As always, great content Jay!

@kamerons76

2 жыл бұрын

Well these days it’s not even the fact of a tight budget parts that cost 1000$ cost 2000 now the United States needs to get these companies to come back and produce chips here

@ViXoZuDo

2 жыл бұрын

just get a 5600G... it would cost the same, have better performance than this and have a better upgrade route... I'm sure he only build this one because he had the part already... For anyone who is buying all the parts, this is an awful build.

Well done for still supporting such builds!

This is the content I didn't know I needed! I love the epic build mantage

Simplicity is actually nice every once in a while… huh didn’t see that coming lol great video thanks for your hard work.

Love that you guys finally used the case that I own. Its been solid for me for years.

I just did a build with a $500 budget, I had some fans and a motherboard laying around and got everything else used off fbook market place, I’m pumped with the deals I found and had fun figuring out what beats what at certain price points

Phil absolutely killed the montage of the build, good job man its my favorite edit. Also Jay I have 3 DVD rw drives that I pulled out of old systems I could ship them to you if you want.

@shanepearce1629

2 жыл бұрын

any body using dvd - cd rom's for backup's may need to make sure they do not have cd bit rot i had backup disc's sitting for about 5 years went to restore files and the disc was unreadable

@TKIvanov

2 жыл бұрын

@@shanepearce1629 where tf were you storing them?! I have ones from 10+ years ago and they're 💯

@nerdjournal

2 жыл бұрын

wow. 3 different bots have stolen the message you wrote including the top comment on this video. Dude these bots are getting out of control.

@FaddyMatty

2 жыл бұрын

@@nerdjournal the bots are really getting out of hand they are even showing up in livestreams.

@TKIvanov

2 жыл бұрын

@@nerdjournal they BEEN outta control, hardly just now getting...

There's nothing in the system that's overkill, so something else had to me. That music and that edit is way more than a PC like this needs, especially with the ketchup and mustard cables. And that's exactly why I love it, thank you XD

I just built an office/light photoediting pc for my mom last christmas and put a 5600g in it because it was actually cheaper than any older apu or cheap cpu/gpu combo you can get right now in germany... she has no clue about hardware or the pc-market but she's pretty happy, so mission accomplished... 😅

Great episode. I just built a budget system and there are a lot of options out there. Not an easy thing to do. Thanks guys.

Hmm, practical PC I built for my dad is: -A320mH -R3 2200g -RX570 -2x8 2666MHz -2TB HDD + 240GB SSD -600W -Generic case with plenty of room He just loves playing Euro Truck Simulator 2 and watching movies with mom, so it's just perfect for his needs.

"Whoa whoa let's not overwhelm..." Had to pause to chuckle on that one!

For Christmas I built my dad a pc like this, he had a windows 7 desktop HP from like 2009.... Few friends helped out with parts and he now has a pc with an Intel 9400k and a quadro k2000, with blue and orange lighting for Detroit tiger theme 😎

This is what I needed Jay. Building a computer for my 60+ year old Mom. And we just pulled Mom's Sata DVD drive to install a Sata Blu-ray drive, so yes they do exist.

After enabling fTPM and upgrading to Windows 11 and started to get random stuttering in videos and games. It would happen once or twice a day. I thought it might be the result of the AMD /Windows 11 issues, but the patches and chipset updates did nothing. I reinstalled Windows 10 (clean install) and the stuttering continued. I deduced that it was most probably a hardware issue. I almost lost my mind trying to identify the cause of the stuttering. I even upgrade back to Windows 11 and the stuttering still continued. I Then saw a forum post where someone mentioned that fTPM was causing stuttering. I disabled fTMP in my BIOS and not only does Windows 11 still run, but the stuttering is completely gone. It's been a week now and no issues.

This build reminds me alot of the tower i put together for my parents from my old computer parts. Industrial oldschool gamer case, bright blue led fans, amd fx8350 and an old 2GB twin frozr HD7850. Pretty overkill for an old home pc for internet browsing and football game streaming. But now I know it wont rot in a landfill forever.

@lamort223able

2 жыл бұрын

Oh so you gave them a space heater ?😂

@chrismorgan7020

2 жыл бұрын

@@lamort223able it doesnt make much heat for internet banking and googleing stuff. Put a little 120 AIO in it too.

Really good video Jay. And Phil the build montage was amazing! Keep up the good work guys.

I was looking at PCs today for my brother in law, and this build is basically on par with modern NUCs or mini PCs that cost 300-500 USD.

Thank you, Jay. I must say I enjoy even this kind of "lighter" content on simpler configurations. Loved the Cooler Mastermastermaster dig. 🙂 Incidentally, I had to remove my ASUS DVD drive (yeah, my current build is old) due to some strange stutter Windows 10 started to exhibit after one of the service packs in 2020. YMMV but a DVD *might* lead to some weird issues nowadays.

@welshtechie6832

2 жыл бұрын

I have a blu ray writer in one of my builds with Win 11 that can read and rip 4k blu ray. It has NO issues with Windows 11 - so maybe very old drives do - but surely that is an OS behaving badly - surely linux would be ok with it?

@pauleyc6264

2 жыл бұрын

@@welshtechie6832 Could well be an issue with this particular model or product family. Still, it was a weird behaviour from a fairly simple SATA device.

@arnox4554

2 жыл бұрын

@@welshtechie6832 Linux will run it, no problem. Windows these days is a giant fail that just keeps getting better every year. (Or should I say, worse.)

@elpolleo

2 жыл бұрын

Plextor drives ftw

@aurvaroy6670

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah that Cooler Mastermaster... clip had me ROFL. I've never laughed this hard in a while.

I think that system will serve her well for probably the next 5-8 years. A sata Blu-ray drive might be a good idea, since they can play DVDs, and the Blu-ray would be a good idea since a lot of disc based content is Blu-ray these days

@Sup_D

2 жыл бұрын

5 years at max (until Windows 10 is active), unless Microsoft upgrades compatibility to allow Windows 11 to run on Ryzen 1000 or 2000 Series.

@arnox4554

2 жыл бұрын

Having blu-ray capabilities on your desktop is so choice. Only problem is, the Blu-ray Disc Association, in their infinite fucking wisdom, decided that the only (legal) way one would be able to play UHD blu-rays on a desktop would be to have an Intel processor from 7th to 10th gen (11th and higher doesn't support SGX and, thus, won't support the DRM) and to have a PC running Windows 10. No, not even Windows 11. That's it. Those are your only (legal) options for UHD blu-rays.

@liviuganea4108

2 жыл бұрын

@@Sup_D Windows 10 support officially drops in 2025 but 2022 might actually be the last year during which we get updates for W10.

@WayStedYou

2 жыл бұрын

@@arnox4554 bruh

Seeing an R7 260X be used in a PC build in 2022 is nostalgic, I had one back in late 2013 which I used it for about 5 years and it's still a viable gaming card for Esports games and some older AAA on medium-high settings at 1080p imo

The most basic 2009 PC build hype up video was what was needed for this machines confidence going into 2022

This is like a "my parents don't need a gaming PC, but they want a PC" build.

@TheWolfster001

2 жыл бұрын

You don't have to have a computer just to game... My main system is mostly used for media and watching movies..

@joshruth6369

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheWolfster001 that’s what my parents use their laptop for.

should've gone for an AMD APU, way simpler and def could've used a smaller case

@Rentta

2 жыл бұрын

Also possibly could have used cheaper case too. At least here these cases go for nearly 70€ and you can get way better bang for your buck for that kind of money.

@GoPotato69

2 жыл бұрын

@@Rentta yea i agree, but i mean I think he was just using out stock he had lying around the office

@JCrook1028

2 жыл бұрын

@@Rentta Can't get cheaper than a case sitting on his shelf for years that he got for free.

those cases are awesome, I built my nephews a gaming computer with one and when my mom needed a new computer I used this case as well.

I loved the editing, so clean and entertaining. Keep it on the next one.

New viewer, here. I've been thoroughly enjoying watching your stuff, and it's renewed my interest in getting back into building PCs again. I've been in I.T. for 30 years. In my early years I've built PCs for companies and friends alike. I can tell you that the world of PC building is not what it used to be. It's a whole new world. I love it! But have things changed so drastically that we no longer have to use grounding straps when handling these parts? It's killing me to watch y'all manhandle motherboards and RAM sticks and graphics cards without so much as an anti-static bag. Are you guys standing on grounding mats, or something? What's going on here? -A new fan

@feldmuis

2 жыл бұрын

The chance of that happening is low, and these parts are not that expensive. I got nervous building my pc of 4.5k, If you grab the heater pipes running trough your home you can get rid of static. If you don't wear clothing that get static allot, you should be fine. Also took a screwdriver to unlock my gpu (lock from mb (asus x570-E gaming) is beneath the gpu lol) prying it out and yanking it left n right. The 3060 vision card can take a hit for the team when needed lol. On previous pc I abused it for 10 years and it was still up and running (with a 90-98c intel 2600k running at 4+ghz).

These are the kind of videos I enjoy the most and which I personally think you guys should be making more of..

My Practical build for a friend was a Ryzen 5 5600G, on an ASRock B550 MATX Motherboard with 8GB of DDR4 @2400Hz with a 1TB TeamForce SATA M2 and a Refurbished DELL 500W PSU (carried over from her old PC) in a Rosewill Case. She uses it for watching KZread, checking email and Facebook. The typical busy mom stuff. She was completely blown away by how much more responsive it is compared to her old Walmart-bought Dell PC from a decade ago.

Honestly a Ryxen 3 3200G would have been a better fit as it's zen+ so no windows 11 issues and it has a decent graphics option without spending extra for the graphics card. Vega 8 has no issues decoding video.

@thelonewolf3515

2 жыл бұрын

The motherboard isn't compatible with this (if I hear that correctly).

@mruczyslaw50

2 жыл бұрын

@@thelonewolf3515 It is but it would require bios update

@DirtySoap

2 жыл бұрын

He probably had the gpu laying around

@thelonewolf3515

2 жыл бұрын

@@mruczyslaw50 ah ok, thanks mate!

@Sup_D

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, i would have also gone with either -2200G- /3200G/4300G/5300G (whichever is available, since it is possible to separately buy OEM Only APU's easily and within budget), primarily because it would remove the hassle of updating GPU drivers, and any issue with any future hardware fixing issues (the less component a Grandma built has inside it, the more easier it would be to fix any possible issues). And i don't think those APU's would have any issue with decoding any Streaming Service video's from Netflix, etc.

i was glad to see you went with a case that has 5.25" bays, as I figured grandma would like to have a dvd drive. smiled when you confirmed it right away! :D EDIT: hell yeah, phil! beautiful work. also, throw a better gpu in there, grandma might surprise you. ;)

Loved the video, loving this edit. It's just awesome guys

God that build montage made me think of something out of like the late 2000's and I loved it so much. Phil is an artist.

Budget builds are 100x more interesting than top of the line.

@popcorny007

2 жыл бұрын

Yep, value and functionality are key

I like how spent all your time building this practical PC believing it will support Windows 11 only to realize that Ryzen 1000 series aren't supported.

your editing skills are getting better and better!! these drops hit hard

I upgraded my dad's computer to a ryzen 5 3600 and gave him my old r9 270x. He was finally convinced after his old dell prebuilt CPU didn't have the codec to play certain video files. He does a fair amount of Photoshop and also runs a plotter and it went from a minute to save a large vector file to seconds. I had already given him an SSD and that alone extended the PC for 3 years.

Would of been nice if Jay mentioned price of each component as he installed and gave a final value to the build for comparison to other budget build with relatively same specs... But other then that, i enjoyed the video. Thank you Jay👍

@theg171

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah how much did it cost? Forgot to mention the most important part of the whole exercise?!?!

I honestly forgot Windows 11 was a thing. It launched, I heard it was a dumpster fire for AMD CPUs which I have, and then it completely fell off my radar.

@0ptimismPrime

2 жыл бұрын

i just enabled fTPM on Win10 in anticipation of upgrading, had massive sound stutter issues just from that, reverted, and then when it released and i updated a 2ndary macine for a test and the horribly unconfigurable taskbar along with some other hairbrained regressions made me uninstall it the same day, and i don't think i'll give it another look until Windows 10 support runs out 3 years from now.

@gaaalavant

2 жыл бұрын

I think all the AMD issues have been resolved since october or so. Microsoft and AMD both put out patches pretty fast

@zachcollins4442

2 жыл бұрын

I got Windows 11 to test it out and honestly... I've noticed no real differences in performance or CPU utilization what-so-ever, and I have an AMD Ryzen 9 3900XT.

@NFmanEN

2 жыл бұрын

There is WIn 11 allready?

@woutchauvaux6672

2 жыл бұрын

@@NFmanEN did you dive into the comments without even watching the intro?

Yay on the case! I *love* my rosewill rise case. It's huge, lots of front, top and rear airflow. It's good to finally see a tech channel bringing a case from rosewill out of the storeroom. ;)

Now THIS is a budget and sensible build. The other day, I watched TechDeals talk about how he got his mom a 3600, who just wanted to browse the net, read emails, and watch KZread videos.. These kinds of builds reuse old but perfectly functioning hardware that aren't enough for modern games, but still good enough to give a great non-gaming PC experience.

@JCrook1028

2 жыл бұрын

Yea, a Chromebook would do that for her for $100.

Love this one,I find that "low" spec rigs are far and away the most satisfying to assemble, they just work, and they always work well. Hats off to you all.

As a Canadian, and how Im subject to slightly higher pricing, Im not sure how going with an older gen Ryzen to add a graphics card, when something like a 3200G probably would have been the better play here in terms of modern budget?

@MrJr1976

2 жыл бұрын

I'm helping a Canadian out and the 3000 series is not all that much cheaper than the 5000 series. Especially the 5600x. I feel like I'm getting people into a cult or something because I have one and now my friend has one. But for the estes $50 or so, it's a fantastic chip for the money.

@xwalkerx27x

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrJr1976 I mean, it's obvious they're all parts he had laying around for years. The 1300 looked like it had old paste on the pcb, which is fine. He took parts he probably would have otherwise never used again to help her out on the cheap basically.

@MrJr1976

2 жыл бұрын

@@xwalkerx27x Exactly. I'm just talking about for someone who doesn't have PC parts just lying around

Sounds similar to the build I initially pooled for my parents to replace their HP Media Center. Ended up with a 7100 intel i3, 1050ti and 8gb of ram... Over the pandemic it got my old i5 7500 and an extra 8gb of ram to run iracing.

i did a build for my grandmother about a year ago and her only requests were able to do facebook so she could talk to us grand kids, listen to her church music and be small so she could easily move it at 80 years old. i ended up building her a ryzen 5 3400g in an asrock deskmini x300 with 16gb ddr4 3200 and a 500gb western digital blue sn550. My one splurge was a Noctua NH-L9A cou cooler. she was happy with it and was surprised how small it was and it didnt cost a whole lot

I'm only 2 years into this master race of the PC and I find it hard to believe that would have been a gaming computer back in the day. Crazy!

@johnringgold3036

2 жыл бұрын

What do you mean back in the day. This system will run most of the top games streamed on Twitch right now 60fps 1080p.

My parents landed up with an overkill "low end" system simply because last gen parts are still stupidly expensive over just buying a new Ryzen 5600X. They had a A8-5600K APU with 8GB of RAM that wasn't cutting it. I had an extra X570 board forced upon me by the Newegg Shuffle that I wanted to use. So a 5600X and 16GB went in. They already had a Quadro P400 card to run two 1440p panels since the old APU's iGPU couldn't handle anything that fancy. It's all stealthly packed into an old Antec NSK4480, running cooler and quieter then that A8 APU ever did! Even still has the DVD drive, just because. I still need to find one of those drive bays with USB 3.0 ports so it has modern connectivity. The biggest problem I had was the 480w power supply wouldn't work with the new board for some reason, so I had to drop a cheapo 750w unit in there (smallest I could find local).

I like the fact that a budget build's video has more care put into than a high end PC's with these clips :D nice montage, killed it!!!4! 🔥🔥🔥

It's nice to see budget builds so thank you!

The freak out reveal of the a PC that is going to be used by a grandma is amazing. Also joke's on you Jay, there is literally a grandma streamer who plays WoW!

@Hirokuro_Asura

2 жыл бұрын

We need to know her name mate!

Absolutely impressed that Jay did not know they make SATA optical drives. That's some Gen-Z level ignorance on display right there, and I know Jay ain't nowhere near a Gen-Z

@deViant14

2 жыл бұрын

It's like acting like he's too cool for anime while being a total weeb. Hypothetically of course

@TheFourthWinchester

2 жыл бұрын

He showed how ignorant he is about tech tbh.

@kaldo_kaldo

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheFourthWinchester Good to know you're aware of everything that has ever released.

@TheFourthWinchester

2 жыл бұрын

@@kaldo_kaldo When its my job, I will make sure to know all the popular stuff out there atleast. SATA DVD drives were basically his entire adult life.

I built a similar PC for a family member over Christmas. The board was an Asus equivilent. I'd been given an 8gb stick of RAM as a thank you, paired it with a further 4gb to get dual channel for the Ryzen 5 3400G. It mainly does media streaming and graphic design work

This is by far the funniest and entertaining video I've ever watched on your channel! Hahaha, such a good mixture of modern classic, fun good-old-times when I think back how the gaming PC era were vs today. On a serious note, I love watching your videos no matter what it is. I always look forward to seeing the next one! I have many dreams, but to be honest... one is to one day meet you guys (which I know won't happen) lol...

I usually favor AMD, but I think this would have been smarter if he used a lil i3 with the integrated graphics, it would have also probably reduced energy consumption. The last one I built for my family was and old i7-4790, paired with 16GB of my old gamer DDR3 memory enclosed in a tiny AeroCool Playa slim, more than enough for them.

The editing montage on this one is so extra and I loved every second of it

Phil's montage editing is S tier - the panel off to panel on transition at the end of the montage was epic. That took some tripod-fu without a motion control rig.

Haha really enjoyed the build and that EDIT lol! Good video, enjoyed it a whole bunch :)

Its such a throw back look. The cables and the inability to manage them really takes me back. LOL

Coolermaster: Jay you can have all this, just say our name a few times a lot.. Jay; OK

Yes, they make DVD drives with a SATA interface. I put one in my 2020 build, they still have use cases!

I have TWO Rosewill Challenger S cases in use in my house. I love all the extra bays for hard drives. The downside is air flow. When you fill up all the bays, it gets warm. You need extra fans (side and top mount) to keep it cool. Side note: I do have a salvaged DVD drive installed in a 5600x rig because I have a BUNCH of old CDs and DVDs and needed to digitize them. Rarely used it since. I have another salvaged DVD drive in the 3400G rig because my son asked for it. To my knowledge...he's never used it.

That R7 260X brought back some memories. I put one of those in my gaming PC back in 2015, Sapphire brand even, then switched to a R9 380 STRIX card a year later and put the 260x in my wife's computer. We actually used both those GPUs until I built our new PCs at the beginning of 2020 and put Gigabyte 1660 Supers in both new PCs.

Refreshing video. Thank you Jay

Built wifey an amd 3000G w/8gb ram & 512gb nvme on the motherboard in a super tiny micro itx case with 200w power, she loves it! Loads faster then everything she was using before! She uses it for classes, shopping and random internet crap. She couldn’t have been happier. Total was like $400

Killing it with the electricity jokes 😂

Building a computer as cheap as possible to meet the user's needs is what I love to do the most. Knowing what they want to use it for and building upon that is so much fun to me. I really enjoyed building my grandmother a PC when they tried windows 8 and it was too different for her and I could get her a windows 7 pc way back when and recently building my girlfriend a PC using the PSU and GPU from an older PC to make a decent gaming rig for 400 bucks. I even got her a pink PC case although she wanted purple I couldn't find one for super cheap.