As someone with autism and a fan of eva, these arent fans of eva, because an actual fan of eva would be able to see evangelion says this kind of treatment and derision of others does nothing but isolate yourself and push the victim further away. Evangelion is like you say a series full of speculation and theories, but the only theories i reject are ones that go against the idea that its not ok to put others down and you need to accept others because that is how you find happiness. the joke is ultimately on the bullies, as tom was able to recover while they can't advance and become better people.

@tibby4503

2 ай бұрын

autism 🤯

My heart goes out to Tony, I hope he’s living his best life

@tonyfunk

6 ай бұрын

You mean Tom. I'm Tony haha

I remember seeing this guy in Reddit and some KZread commments. As someone with autism I understand some of what Tom has gone through, Im glad he’s doing better and hope that better days await him!

@tonyfunk

6 ай бұрын

Im glad Tom is doing so well ❤

12:14 - Asuka simps defending their mistress... while being at least as bad as a person as her.

I can relate to Tom's perspective and experiences, especially with media related triggers. I'm very sorry for the things hes dealt with in his life; and i hope he knows he isn't alone.

Support to Tom and all people with mental health issues. For the other people : be kind, you don't know what the person in front of you is going through. Thank you for this video

@tonyfunk

6 ай бұрын

Exactly, everyone's got stuff going on that you'll likely never know about so it's imperative that we always treat each other with kindness by default.

at least he came out the other side a better stronger person

@DomFortress

5 ай бұрын

However, the online anime netizen with their anonymity only left me with distant and petty. Sure, they're only the most vocal yet not the majority of the anime fandom, however I doubt that most of us humans still conduct ourselves with integrity, when we're operating under the appearance of anonymity.

@quill3027

5 ай бұрын

Don't justify people's fucked up behavior

@DomFortress

5 ай бұрын

@@quill3027 exactly, post traumatic growth can still take place with optimal healthy lifestyle practices and mentoring, without weak parenting or psychosocial manipulations.

I don't understand why this kind of fandom are so toxic... Don't get me wrong, I'm an adult, I know that people are assholes, but seriously it's disappointing anyway. When I was younger, I thought that people who loves certain things, like Evangelion for example, with heavy psychological themes, would be more emphatic toward others problems. It was a naive thought, I know. As a huge fan of Evangelion since I'm a teenager, I feel ashamed for what happened to Tom. I'm glad that it ended well, I wish him the best.

I wish people weren't so garbage all the time. You'd think that a series as heavily laden with discussions of mental illness as Neon Genesis would have a more understanding fandom, but apparently not. I'm sorry, Tom. And I'm sorry to all the Toms out there. Hopefully videos like this can change things ❤

I remember this guy, he first showed up on the EvaGeeks forums, months before Reddit and Discord - where I found him as well. On the forums I didn't think anyone was toxic to him but he was certainly not being helped and being there going back to what had tormented him so much account after account was not positive for him either.

Holy shit. as of writing this comment, I JUST finished watching the final installment of the Evangelion rebuilds. My heart goes out to Tom as a fellow autistic person. While I haven't been bullied in fandom, and I'm a regular participant in many fandoms, I have enough of a heart to know that nobody deserves such treatment. I'm happy he's recovered. And now I'm going to vent. The very idea that one could watch this show and take no lessons from it. or even worse, learn lessons from it and go against those very same lessons. It's disgusting and appalling but most of all, it's disappointing. one of those comments said "Everybody's going through shit, you're not special." to tom and it just made me feel so fucking terrible. Yes, everybody is going through shit. But shouldn't you be kind to others because of that? It's heartbreaking that people can be so heartless. I've not interacted with any of the Evangelion fandom at this point, and I've always had good experience with other fandoms. So I'm confident in saying that when you watch something and violate its meaning in your behaviour while PARTICIPATING in its fandom is such a fucking shitty thing to do. These people need a dip in the fanta pool, for real.

Most people seem to become shitty when they fall in love with a work. They'll say "It's just a reference to the show" while ignoring that the show is saying to do the opposite.

Dang I wasn't in aware we did that maybe I just stay on the meme side of the Fandom

"Tom was afraid of hell, so he didn't jump." I'm glad the fear motivated him to not jump, but brooooooooo, my boy Tom does NOT deserve to go to hell after everything he's gone through 😭😭😭✋✋✋ I hope he only finds success from now on. Stay safe, Tom, my champ 💪🏆

im so sorry that Tom had to go through all of that. people can be seriously disgusting. i really hope he's doing better now

This was a really great video Tony. You treated this very serious situation with a lot of care and it can hopefully help a lot of people in the end

@tonyfunk

6 ай бұрын

Thank you!!! I hope it does.

I can't imagine having your first introduction to Evangelion being the hospital room scene could do to you as a person. Regardless, It makes me sad to hear of what Tom went through. We're all stoked about this one together, so why do we have to put others down for having their own thoughts and experience? It makes me want to interact with fandoms as little as possible.

This is one of the reasons I left Discord. There are a lot of sad and lonely people on that app.

What a well put and informative video. Out of all your videos and other content you posted this one was much more different and i like it. It's unfortunate how tom had to go through all this and everyone who he made contact had the audacity to be douche bags. It's unbelievable how fandoms can be this disgraceful to one person and think it's okay. I'm glad that tom himself had a good outcome and completely left the fandom and has been doing good. I really liked this video and how you covered it.

@tonyfunk

5 ай бұрын

It's a real shame how fandoms tend to gang up on people they see as outsiders. My only hope is this message can create more awareness about this problem. And yeah, I'm so happy Tom's doing better these days.

Wow, thanks for shining a spotlight on this guy's story! As a fellow autistic person, my heart goes out to Tom. To be honest, I think I have seen Tom's KZread comments on every single NGE video I have watched. I can relate to aspects of Tom's story; this whole video gave me chills. Thankfully, I have never been s*xually assaulted, but everything else in this video is relatable. Sorry if I sound blunt here. Please give credit to a KZreadr in the video description. It looks like you have used footage from a video uploaded by "Autism From The Inside".

@tonyfunk

6 ай бұрын

Yeah, every person sees the world in completely different ways and I just really wanted to drive home the idea that we have to acknowledge, respect, and do our best to be accommodating. All I can hope is that this video drives that point tactfully and respectfully. As an aside.... You can always be as blunt as you'd like with me :) It's in the description now! For future reference, I don't believe in attribution being an ethical issue when it comes to *most* media published on the internet unless it is requested by the owner. My knee jerk reaction is to look for a disclaimer and then use the media in my work accordingly. Having said that, the video you pointed out to me falls in another category due to the content matter and context regarding it, so I appreciate you pointing that out to me.

The fandom has gotten VEEEEEERY gatekeepy and I hate it. It didn't always used to be like this. Eva fans were always fanatics but this used to be such a respectable and fun fandom to be in. People were supportive. Watch and enjoy how you want! No you got people trying to impose view orders and such, it sucks. I miss how we used to be.

@evagineer9165

4 ай бұрын

I’d probably argue this all started around the time the later rebuilds started to pop up in the fandom and considering that the fandom slowly became an echo chamber like many other fandoms.

@alainchristian

4 ай бұрын

It's so fucking sad @@evagineer9165

Evangelion hit me hard when i was younger aswell

As someone with Aspergers I could sorta relate to the feelings and experiences this guy went through, although not nearly to the same degree. When I was in elementary school I did have some kids give me shit because I attended special Ed classes, but nothing really noteworthy because those kind of comments were few and far between. I do think calling the EVA fandom "evil" is kind of dramatic tho.

@tonyfunk

6 ай бұрын

I'm sorry you experienced that growing up. :( I'm glad to hear your experience wasn't too bad though. Hope life is treating you well these days

I had a similar experience with Eva In middle school I watched the end of Eva because of a KZread video on it and it scared me and creeped me out but unable to look away after it ended I think a day or two I was on auto pilot just out of it spaced out

underrated af vid, the eva fandom is kinda special after looking into their subreddit.

@tonyfunk

6 ай бұрын

Every fandom is toxic, but you're right, Eva is on another level. My guess is we get a little pretentious and protective in this community thinking the series is "highbrow" which it isn't lol.

🥺

People on the internet are fucking vile

Ofc an anime despicting psicological issues, sexual, religious and philosophical themes wuld have that reaction, Hideaki Anno was in a very low point of depresion when he made End of Eva, and the movie is a very direct critique to the "otaku" culture of the late 80s and 90s Japan and in some cases the early western anime culture before anime kind of got mainstream, thou is sad all this happened because his condition aggravated the response, is a very natural response to be affected by that scene and the movie itself, actually thats the point of the movie, not really to give a end to the series, is a big Fck you to those same anime fans that send Hideaki Anno death treaths and used the same tactics and behavior of the "new" anime era. Whoever tell you the contrary, and say Evangelion is justa whatever show or that Asuka is a simple waifu, or that Shinji is an incel and bla bla bla, is just lying or simple dint really comprenhend why EoE was made. I cant help him much, just hope he dont end hating the art mediun that is anime, i can suggest to him to search for several Hideaki Anno documentaries bout that time and im sure that will help him a little to understand why eva had that impact on him.

@littleredruri

2 ай бұрын

This is a myth. Anno and others who worked on the film have talked about how this was basically the other half of the TV ending and they'd always wanted to make it like this, the story that Anno made the film out of spite was passed around the internet and now people just believe it with basically no proof, which is maddening.

@jmdtaelon

2 ай бұрын

@@littleredruri "Out of spite" is a big statement i dont do, but in the time betwen series end, death and rebirth and eoe, a lot happened and its clearly reactionarie, not want to see that, is to be blind. He as director had lot of freedom, but the "plot" itself dint change from the series or the manga, the letters and the grafiies are in the movie, why they will insert that if not as a comentary? To me, he gave the fans what the fans wanted. The are lots of documentaries and resourses to more or less get a clear picture of what hepened, so "no proof" is also a weird statement. We will never know some details but even after rebuild end, eoe get more sense and not really a mistery.

Oh no abelist harasment again :( oh god the eformschool :( even SA oh god michael :( And what , like evangelion is such a spsychodelic traumadump of anno, that reactoins? Of course it strong affections and reactions of people.

This is so horrible. I could’ve been like Tom.

So him and buddy played doctor or something?

So…he pulled a Shinji? Cause this sounds so Evangelion that it’s like he literally did exactly what the show wants it’s viewers to

Hello fellow Eva fans. I'm into the show because of the fantasy tech, the music and the esoteric context and the occasional fun times. GET IN THE ROBOT!

This guy seems like he will only be happy with 0 stimulus. I worked with guys who would tell stories like this. But the weird thing was the events were built up over time. Each time he retold a story, he would add things. Eventually building these elaborate stories where he was wronged. He would accuse people of things, and build a regular interaction into a horrible event over time if he thought about it to much.

@tonyfunk

6 ай бұрын

I'm sure that happens a lot, but we still have to be compassionate because we don't know how much of that is unintentional. In this particular case, I was provided with a lot of documentation that corroborated Tom's narrative. Basically the screenshots I received told the whole story.

@mr.wookiesack

6 ай бұрын

@@tonyfunk yea, I'm sure he was picked on.

Learn to log off and block people if you can't do that you don't deserve access to the internet.

@bandiras2

6 ай бұрын

The truth nobody want to hear.

@tonyfunk

6 ай бұрын

Though I agree that there needs to be more education in regards to online safety, saying that someone doesn't "deserve" access to the internet is reactionary. The internet is a tool... To say that certain people with mental illnesses particularly those who experience psychosis, don't have the right to use the internet indicates to me that you haven't given your comment a lot of thought. How about you learn about Asperger's and psychosis first, see how different these conditions influence your reality, and then reevaluate your vacuous platitude.

@emsmx3690

6 ай бұрын

You’re a piece of shit for saying that but understandable

@evagineer9165

4 ай бұрын

@@bandiras2The Thing people rarely think of doing* No but seriously we do have to consider the circumstances that lead up to it at all.

@mobius273

2 ай бұрын

​​@@bandiras2 so if you send someone a death threat you take no moral responsibility for how you make that person feel, because they "simply should have logged off?"