The Most Egregious CGI Error In Transformers That Nobody Talks About
In this video, I will show you a little-known CGI error that has been overlooked by many fans. We'll be discussing the infamous blue arm error that affects Optimus Prime in some of the film's most iconic scenes. Once you spot it, you'll never be able to unsee it!
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Leave it to theorymus to cover the most obscure transformers topics. Man never lets up
@Theorymus
Жыл бұрын
I love to bring obscure topics to light ^_^
@PK-Radio
Жыл бұрын
Bro is the nomad colossus of transformers
@nickmarvell1245
Жыл бұрын
Then you know he'll never let you down 😉
@orionpaxproductions2702
Жыл бұрын
That's why he's the G.O.A.T
@thesweep214
Жыл бұрын
@@Theorymus why did you change your name I like it better now but I'm curious ngl
I've seen this movie probably over 50 times in my life and I, as well as 99.9% of people who saw this, didn't notice it until now. Goes to show just how amazing the CGI is that the errors were so obscure.
@Theorymus
Жыл бұрын
Exactly man, It's crazy how a film from a 2007 rivals the cgI of films that are coming out now, They were truly ahead of their time
@mirb4805
Жыл бұрын
fr, I was so amazed on the detail and the storyline and it was made in like 2007 and up and the fans still never stop
@amyawolford
Жыл бұрын
And 2007 is probably my favorite film, not just because of the nostalgia, but it’s just a good movie. I never noticed this blue arm in my LIFE
@demonwolf3286
Жыл бұрын
It's not a cg mistake it's just highly reflective and is bouncing the lighting off of it you can see it when he grabs megatrons jaw
@Da_meme_gamer
Жыл бұрын
Same
luckily the blue arm is usually covered up really well from the lighting
@Gon3600
Жыл бұрын
Probably why it was missed, if it was lit up they would have changed it.
@demonwolf3286
Жыл бұрын
Its literally a reflection from the metal being shiny look at it again after looking at it when he grabs megatron by the jaw
@orhandalegend
Жыл бұрын
@@demonwolf3286 well its hard to notice, hard enough to realize it after 16 years
@demonwolf3286
Жыл бұрын
@@orhandalegend I mean I keep noticing things and they're cool like about 5 years ago I noticed why optimus only ever had one energon blade up till aoe when he rolls over starscream in the forest battle he throws it into grindors shoulder and grindor takes it out throwing it to the ground since optimus dies and the autobots retreat there was no one to grab his blade
@PJmachine
Жыл бұрын
@@demonwolf3286 The blue arm isn't in that shot, that was just footage for filler. The blue arm is after that in the video.
I actually didn’t realize that there was an error with Prime’s right arm being blue, so the fact that you were able to point it out is just surprising to hear.
@Theorymus
Жыл бұрын
I randomly noticed this one day and I'm like oh my God, others must have had to found this before me. And when I did the research i'm surprised nobody else pointed it out
@agent_bumblebee
Жыл бұрын
@@Theorymus honestly the fact that you were the only one who pointed it out is just incredible.
@becauseyesisnotaword
Жыл бұрын
@@Theorymus bro whats your eyesight? above average or somethin?
@amyawolford
Жыл бұрын
Hi again, agent bumblebee.
@demonwolf3286
Жыл бұрын
It's not blue it's just highly reflective look at his arm when he grabs megatron his armor is super shiny and stuff just think what happens when you reflect light off something
I would believe the reason for the arm constantly switching back to Blue would be due to the fact that back then recording footage of objects that are red was extremely difficult. This was the main reason we ended up receiving changes to original character designs I.E. Ratchet and Ironhide color change along with Optimus sporting blue flames across his model. So in some scenes where the focus is taken away from Optimus's entire body to make sure the model does rendure correctly the color pallet switched to blue so there would be an actual model on the screen instead of Optimus's arm part just warping in and out of existence.
@Gon3600
Жыл бұрын
I would imagine they would use uv mapping for textures so the blue arm was a mistake. but if they didn't then yes, the blue arm could've been them stopping the rig from causing render glitches.
@Breadn11
Жыл бұрын
I think that red is only an issue on actual live-action scenes, not CGI renders.
“Blue arm will live rent free in your mind for all eternity”😂😂 love way you do the intro now
@Theorymus
Жыл бұрын
Haha thx my dude 😎
Mistakes happen in cgi and these mistakes were bad and theorymus's content never disappoints
@amyawolford
Жыл бұрын
Yup, he mama very good content
@amyawolford
Жыл бұрын
Makes*
@demonwolf3286
Жыл бұрын
Its literally not a mistake it's just reflective like super reflective and its because of the viewing angle and lighting they are in a dimly lit alley and all subsequent ones are just various versions
The cgi errors feel like unintentional references to the g1 animation errors
@Theorymus
Жыл бұрын
I think g1 had a blue optimus prime at one point
@buffshrek3513
Жыл бұрын
@@Theorymus yeah it did happen, the worst part about it is that it was fully in front of your face
I've watched this movie SO many times and yet I've never noticed the blue arm
@christianparrish3292
Жыл бұрын
Same here, bro.
@justinarzola4584
Жыл бұрын
The lighting of the scene obscured the error and it only lasts a few seconds so its easy to not notice it
@demonwolf3286
Жыл бұрын
@@justinarzola4584 it's not a cg error it's just the lighting his arm is super shiny and reflective
@5spec
Жыл бұрын
@@demonwolf3286 waah waah
@5spec
Жыл бұрын
@@demonwolf3286 boo hoo
Wasn't there also that one error where Optimus drops his shield with an audible sound, but the next shot, he still has it? Even now, Bumblebee/RoTB Prime's shoulder clips through his body. I like how Theorymus starts conversation about the most un-noteworthy things though makes sure to interact with every. Single. Comment. Nice video too. :D
@Theorymus
Жыл бұрын
Haha thanks man, you are Absolutely right about this shield thing. I'm not even too sure how that got past editing.
@Theguywith2gpus
Жыл бұрын
@@Theorymus ikr😂
My theory is that this was done to make those shots look "better" with the same logic Michael Bay has about why he hates filming red vehicles. Considering that its such a subtle change and only done in a few shots, this doesnt really sound like much of a stretch especially considering the fact that the cgi team likely did this intentionally as it is consistently and only on the one panel of the right arm.
@64Hassbot
Жыл бұрын
I'm out of the loop, why does Bay hate filming red vehicles?
@Theorymus
Жыл бұрын
I believe it had something to do With the reflections, I guess cameras back in 2007 had a hard time picking up red paint on vehicles accurately, This is actually part of the reason why prime has flames.
@jeremiahsacks2868
Жыл бұрын
@@64Hassbot now you know why ironhide is black and ratchet is green
@Kurai0
Жыл бұрын
with technology improving, he had the confidence to film them. With DOTM having 3 red vehicles/cybertronians, 4 if you count Optimus
There is a theory that the reason the animation errors in G1 happened was because Unicron was messing with the universe so maybe Unicron in the Bayformers universe was also messing with the universe which caused all the errors in the movies to happen
@ilikepigeons6101
Жыл бұрын
That sounds like some cheesy excuse for all that. At the end of the day all of it is errors and it's ok, ok to leave it that
@capootiscrepitoos
Жыл бұрын
@@ilikepigeons6101 We know, it's mostly meant to be taken with a wink and a nudge wink wink nudge nudge wink nudge
@Ryder-a-Blaze
Жыл бұрын
@@ilikepigeons6101 it does to be honest
@demonwolf3286
Жыл бұрын
It's not blue it's highly reflective
@Espartanica
Жыл бұрын
Unicron as a villain would have been far better than some bounty hunter.
You are and always will be making good content and I admire your knowledge about the transformers lore in any kinds of transformers media.
@Theorymus
Жыл бұрын
Aww thanks man, I really appreciate it 👍
@Depressed_Ferrari_Fan_16
Жыл бұрын
How did you get the decepticon logo in your username? I have to know.
@6shot9
Жыл бұрын
I like that he doesn’t sit around complaining to fit in like most other tf influencers
@amyawolford
Жыл бұрын
@@6shot9 oh yea, that is very true.
Another error I can never unsee again is in the General Grievous vs Obi-Wan fight in Episode III. The lightsaber colors of Grievouses lightsabers are switching and the hands he looses. Ruined the whole fight for me, but I think I will probably forget this error pretty soon.
@Lingeringwill13
Жыл бұрын
It didn’t ruin the fight but I noticed Grievous has Anakins lightsaber as well as Luke’s and I think Obi-Wans and they switch too I find it kind of fun
@porko882
Жыл бұрын
@@Lingeringwill13 Isn't Luke's lightsaber the same one as Anakin's?
kinda just proves that good cgi goes unnoticed.
I got a few requests for you: 1. How old is Optimus Prime in Bayformers 2. What if I survived Soundwave, Shockwave, Frenzy, Jetfire, and Blackout/Grindor 3. Slight differences in robot modes throughout the films, such as Optimus’s abs in DOTM.
You have a keen eye and pay attention to a lot of details people miss. Keep up the good work theorymus👍
@Theorymus
Жыл бұрын
Thanks man, I sure will 🫡
I once was a average viewer of this channel but took a break 1 to 2 years and I wasn’t used to seeing his face so I got a jump scare at the start
@Theorymus
Жыл бұрын
Haha your far from the first who got a scare 👍
Optimus first time transforming on screen was a cinematic spectacle!
One thing worth pointing out is that the 2007 Leader Class Optimus Prime toy has those exact same blue arms. As a kid I always wondered why they were like that. Maybe in both situations the blue arm is a leftover from an earlier design?
If I had a nickel every time there was an error with Prime being blue where he wasn’t supposed to be I’d have 2 nickels. It isn’t much but it’s weird that it happened twice
@Gon3600
Жыл бұрын
A man of culture
The amount of effort theorymus puts in his videos is why we love him especially his personality!
Wow great job and I have never noticed that Optimus Prime right arm is blue for few seconds!🤯 Keeping up!
@Theorymus
Жыл бұрын
Anytime man 👍
Headcanon: Optimus’ alt mode proabably caused some shifting for his armor (kibble) because he was the one who had the largest vehicle mode.
oh I thought it had something to do the lighting, reflection and contrast depending on each shot he was in.
Amazing video as always and it's nice how you spotted that, I never noticed that even though I watched those scenes so much!!
It’s been awhile since I’ve seen your videos, but wow you have a real good eye to notice these and I always be rewatching the movies 😂
I do think the blue arm was not fully coded, painted ect because maybe they did not see it somehow, which i think is valid because not everyone has spot-on vision I don't think they were just lazy enough to keep it there if they saw it.
@Theorymus
Жыл бұрын
Thats what I'm thinking, I watches this film so many times and I only noticed this recently
@Gon3600
Жыл бұрын
Because its a 3d space unless they use a solid view it would have been almost impossible to miss, my guess is that they forgot to add a key frame to an empty
I spotted it some time ago and thought it had something to do with either the blue coloring of the flames or was due to the sun visor on top of his cab in vehicle mode. Edit: I looked at the Transformers Arrival scene, and it fixes itself shortly before Optimus answers Spike's question as to who Megatron is. That is indeed a well spotted error!😊👍
I never knew this! You have a good eye. you can make a video on anything and make it long and interesting.
Another banger speculation! Good eye, Theorymus!
Nice video as always Theorymus, I'm hype as always.
@Theorymus
Жыл бұрын
Thanks dude
I’m 99% sure it’s just the lighting making it look dark because it’s definitely not blue in most of your examples.
@Gon3600
Жыл бұрын
The blue is the outside panel on most and not the inside more robotic parts
Well, all I can say is that no movie project is 100% perfect and that we will always see movie errors no matter how perfect looking it is. Editors are great at making the big pictures that will draw our attention, but when looking for the little things that we don't see, it is something that will leave you to remember for a lifetime.
I think it was meant for the Ion Blaster because when Prime holds it, it has blue on it. But they forgot about it...
I heard from some youtuber that, when in 2007, the colour red is difficult to animate/cgi in moving scenes so they decided to design Optimus Prime blue for most of the part rather than red like his G1 design. I think blue right arm error should be related to that.
I found out about this error about a year ago. I probably regret noticing it the most. Just as you can notice the gentleman (probably M. Bay) during the first transformation. An interesting thing is that in the TF 2007 trailer, the hand part is red.
In G1, it's easy to notice the errors on your own. But I with any Transformers shows that came out after G1, it would take years for people to notice them, it has to take like one KZreadr to point them out.
Some people: these movies are so good, I can’t find a single mistake. Theorymus: hold my studio series figures.
I love how this channel works
THEORYMUS!!!! I am Blackout from another universe! Reply if you see this, also great video :) ❤
@Theorymus
Жыл бұрын
I see you 👀
@marialopez-ql9ec
Жыл бұрын
@@Theorymus Nice, also I’m an autobot 😇
Love the collection you have in the back. I’m jealous 😫
Awesome Job!🌟
When I was a kid, I used to love the live action movies, but now I’m a G-oner /Reboot guy now.
@Theorymus
Жыл бұрын
I don't blame you, G1 is sick and the mix of the Bay style with g1 for the reboot is awesome to see
Love your vids man but damn youuuuu. I can't unsee this now hahaha
I'm no VFX artist, but it seems to commonly appear in all scenarios post-transformation. In scenes where it'd be the most noticeable, like for instance his energon blades coming out of his arms, it was often fixed, leading me to believe it was a fix post-VFX finalizations. So in scenes were it wasn't as noticeable without pointing it out, it wasn't fixed. So the VFX artists, after scenes were already rendered out and have gone through several stages of compositing, would fix it. It could have been in error that it was blue, or a change that happened later.
Great stuff!
Theorymus Face Jumpscare at 0:00. In all seriousness Great video though bro 👍👍
@Theorymus
Жыл бұрын
Haha thx man
Thanks a lot for that intro, now I will never fail to notice how, for a brief portion of the end of the Piston Cup race at Los Angeles International Speedway, Strip Weathers randomly changes eye color.
Soy una persona de habla hispana, y no entiendo muy bien tus videos, por lo mismo de que hablas inglés y yo español, he me apoyada en que algunos de tus videos tienen subtitulos en español, ojalá todos fueran así. El punto es que me impresione al ver tu cara, no me la imaginaba así.
I would’ve never seen that error,lucky we have Theorymus
Amazing bro❗️❤️
theres also a single shot somewhere where you can see the back of Prime's door on his chest for a sec and its just a basic blue texture with no interior detail
Trans deserves 1 million subs.❤️🙏
I apologise greatly your right, I just watched the the scene on a larger screen, it is blue but only the wrist panel is blue, the rest of his arm is definitely red, but still your right it was an error. Sorry for my previous comment.
"It is I, Optimus Prime! You probably didn't recognise me because of the blue arm."
Hey Theorymus, I really enjoy watching your videos. I've been rewatching transformers rotf and when Optimus gets revived and The Fallen comes in to take the matrix, The Fallen has a great chance to kill Optimus but instead teleports towards the pyramids. Unless you've already made a video on this is it ok to solve this mystery. Again I love your videos and can't wait for more in the future! :)
Fantastic video. Thanks
@Theorymus
Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
Dang I didn’t notice it until now, crazy how you spotted this
Maybe it's good idea to make a compilation of Bayverse CGI errors.
Worst error I have ever seen that you can’t unsee is when megs is sitting on the Lincoln memorial and his foot is no clipping through clear as day
I love all your theories
About the early concept animation of The Forest Battle in ROTF. Is that it shows Megatron in his 2007 form fighting Optimus instead of his tank like form that He got for actual Movie. Something tells that The Animation Team wanted to bring back Megatron's 2007 form, But I'm guessing they thought it would be more cooler if they gave him a different Form/Vehicle Mode.
I cannot believe I never noticed this😂, I’ve watched this movie probably well over 100 times and I never even knew about this, I also didn’t know about the ones you pointed out at the beginning of the video either😂
I noticed this when I was a kid, glad I'm not the only one who noticed it
I have seen this movie so many times and have never ever noticed it
Love this video as a hard core transformers fan since 2007 this video is important
this man is one of the greatest for transformer theory's, i forgot about this dude until i saw his name changed
Thumbnail; Blue arm?! Me: I’m blue dabba dee dabba di
Awsome video Theorymus! I have a video idea called What if i survived for Brawl where brawl survives mission city and lives up to TF5; where the other combaticons go to earth along with onslaught and form bruticus in TLK
1:02 I think I just saw blue arm in the darn into lmao
I made eye contact with you in this video and you DON’T BLINK!!!
I learn something new about these movies everyday.
I don't know if you did this, but you should maya video of all the errors in mistakes in every transformers films. Especially bumblebee. Like example: in the 2007 film, the scene where uncle bobby was showcasing the rest of the cars after sam's dad didn't want to pay for bumblebee, and that bumblebee created a sonic boom that broke the glass off of all the cars, you can see a shadow pan over uncle bobby. That shadow is a microphone. Of course I wouldn't know that as a kid, but I found out growing up.
Now I'll never look the same way again when watching the iconic scene where Optimus bends down to Sam and Mikaela.
It probably was some type of glitch that happened and no one noticed it, but I was always curious why there was blue in parts of the arm where there wasn't supposed to be.
I Believe that the reason why is because it might've been the og color the cgi team was going for. But due to the time they had and they model they got, they maybe just couldn't get the og color of prime. Just a theory tho!
Bring back the what if I survived series with what if Sideswipe survived.
My theory as to why it could've happened is that it might have been a material or texture bug that would happen when his right arm was out of focus
@Gon3600
Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say out of focuses, they probably just moved an empty
This came earlier than I thought!
I think when it comes to CGI, there are usually different models that the animators use for different purposes or scenes. This is why we see the blue arm when Optimus was transforming as it was probably the model used by the animators for only when Optimus is transforming. I can't really explain why there are scenes where Optimus didn't transform but still have the blue arm, but I think the animators just chose the wrong model because as we can see, both of the regular and blue armed model don't really have any differences other than, well, the blue arm so the animators must've gotten switched up. Though again, that's just my speculation.
I think it happens due to either uv mapping error or or someone just changed something in the normal map. I may be wrong but If there's an animation in the textures for the transformation it could be constricted by an empty or simply on the wrong axis
Amazing I never noticed this
Not video related but that hoodie looks really cool
You show your face for the very 1st time😮
@zkproductions4351
Жыл бұрын
It’s not the first time
Hey theorymus! Can you make a “what if i survived jolt”? i bet you could add more story to this story. Anyways great videos!
They were paying homage to the cartoon show and their random changes in colo(u)r throughout the series.
the fact that i wasn't the only one to see that is amazing!
It feels like you planted a worm inside my brain now. Almost like I've noticed his right arm being blue but my brain overrides that thought and changes my perception of it back to the normal color scheme.
Theorymus is just simply a G.O.A.T .
Welp, i guess ill add this to the folder of "Obscure or random facts that live rent free in my mind"
We need an analysis of the new Transformers Rise of the Beasts Trailer keep up the good work
I was not ready for you to stare into my soul at the beginning
Another fun fact. After Bee shoots the kitchen bots in ROTF and blows up Sam's house, while Sam and Mikaela are flirting about the L-word the camera is spinning around them. For a brief glimpse you can actually see the cameraman's shadow on Shia's back
Can’t wait for the ‘I watched Transformers Rise Of The Beasts in 0.25x speed and this is what I found’ lol. In all seriousness the 0.25x speed dotm vid is one of my favourites from you
Theorymus the GOAT theorist
Just noticed this error thanks for staying this error
I like to think it's a reference to the most iconic G1 Animation Error: Blue Optimus
I have noticed it in a few places. Mostly at the observatory. It hasn't lived rent-free in my head. Maybe that's just because there are still chunks of red, and it's only the flames that are missing
My theory about his blue right arm is the next: Thanks to some GMC commercials, I was able to see that in many promotional imagery of the movie, they were working with a previous render of Optimus, where most of his pieces were casted on blue. My point is, that they were working with that previous unfinished model in most of the scenes, and then the finalized version was out, and they might have missed those mistakes on Prime's model. That, or maybe there was a glitch on that specific model.