I have the nagging suspicion that the armor of every North Korean AFV is just solid steel instead of composite.

@whyjnot420

2 жыл бұрын

I have the nagging suspicion that they are just painted cardboard by this point in time, all of the steel having rusted away.

@iraholden3606

2 жыл бұрын

With no evidence lol, let's all just intuit military capability bases upon msm narratives!

@whyjnot420

2 жыл бұрын

@@iraholden3606 Granted my initial reply was a joke, I would like to respond to this. When it comes to authoritarian regimes, you can see how many are far too often guilty of projection. China might be the biggest offender here, but that doesn't let North Korea off the hook either. With this you can make some assumptions of the authoritarian regime by seeing what they say about other people. You can also look at the same type of govt. who all too often spout bold faced lies that are a complete 180 from the truth, and use that to suss out the truth. ie. in a natural disaster they say nobody died, then it is likely many people died. Yes assumptions are dangerous, but that does not mean they are always wrong. Yes there is not much info that comes out of places like North Korea, but that does not mean we cannot make educated guesses into their capability. I am in complete agreement that we should not rely on the MSM to actually inform us of anything though. It is far better to do ones own learning, and then make up your own mind based on that. This does not preclude listening to actual experts and whatnot though, they can be and often are, important sources of information. Especially given that many have the ability to easily distill and pass on their particular knowledge.

@TheArklyte

2 жыл бұрын

@@whyjnot420 "...by what they're saying of other people..." What if regime in question has obsession with "importing ideologies" to make puppet governments, WMD insecurities, history of betraying its allies on every corner and having major part of its economy based solely on cooperating with regimes it says it despises?

@TheArklyte

2 жыл бұрын

I would have said it was true... IF it wasn't SO easy to make composite armor. Pour concrete into the space between two steel plates? Composite! Fill it with sand? Composite! Install glass and rubber panels? Composite! Layers two different steel types with duralumin plate on the inside? You guessed it, it's composite! People apparently just don't get what composite material means and that we had them even before WWI... just not on tanks;) Heck, even stereotypical roman wall shield _scutum_ was made with what falls under category of composite material.

Any tanks without aerial cover were just sitting ducks

@morisco56

2 жыл бұрын

Yep, I know that from experience

@matthiuskoenig3378

2 жыл бұрын

well yes but actually no. you only have to deny aircover to your enemies you yourself do not need the aircover (not that north korea is able to do that to its likely enemies but still)

@Seriona1

2 жыл бұрын

Right but look at situation from North Korean perspective. I believe their doctrine is trying to copy what worked for them during the first Civil War which is copying what Germany did against Poland except the air doctrine portion. I believe North Korea will try to dive their tanks as deep as possible into South Korea to create chaos and cut off supply forces while the infantry chase up and secure the rear. Fortunately, it won't work for modern warfare.

@KTo288

2 жыл бұрын

I suspect that they'll try and deny the South and the US the use of their superior air power and artillery by trying to make a dash into Seoul as rapidly as possible, get mixed in with South Korean civilians and buildings. Make the fight one of SK forces having to dig them out street corner by street corner, apartment block by apartment block, floor by floor.

@Seriona1

2 жыл бұрын

@@KTo288 the UN may of changed their position but last I read, South Korea and US do not garrison Seoul at all because the entire city is 100% in North Korean artillery range.

"North Korea was to become something of a modern-day Prussia, an army with a state" _laugh in Switzerland_

@arushreddi5419

2 жыл бұрын

Laughs in Pakistan army

@v3es473

9 ай бұрын

​@@arushreddi5419what the fuck are you talking about

@patriotenfield3276

3 ай бұрын

Laughs in Burmese Tatmadaw.

Comparing North Korea to Prussia is like comparing a nuke to a pistol, size matters. Besides, Prussia wasn't even that militant, they had a warrior culture but they knew about the importance of economy and diplomacy just as much as the next guy.

@2copy3copy4cpoy

2 жыл бұрын

not to mention the most well known aspect of Prussia was Frederick's famously masterful leadership. NK's leaders have not been greatly praised for either strategy nor tactics

@user-hj5fm4we6o

2 жыл бұрын

@@2copy3copy4cpoy But at least I have fooled Trump tremendously in last 4 years!

@TheGaymo

2 жыл бұрын

North Korea and Prussia both became communist territories after WW2 so at least they have that in common.

@mystray

2 жыл бұрын

Prussia was pretty liberal, something you would not say about a totalitarian communist state.

@TheGaymo

2 жыл бұрын

@@mystray The Soviets beat the Pee out of Prussia, so now they’re just Russia.

7:15 clearly no one in North Korea plays war thunder

@ViceCoin

2 жыл бұрын

Even Kim Jun Un? He studied in Switzerland, and probably gamed.

@titakristengco

2 жыл бұрын

@@ViceCoin well Manny few North Korean can access Virtual Private Network(V.P.N) illegally.

@ViceCoin

2 жыл бұрын

@@titakristengco State-sponsored hackers, smugglers, meth dealers, and money launderers should have no problem accessing online filth and decadence from the West.

@DZ477

2 жыл бұрын

@@titakristengco No, you're confusing North Korea with China. North Koreans don't have access to the internet unless if allowed/supervised by authorities.

@titakristengco

2 жыл бұрын

@@DZ477 if your going to undemocratic state like Russia and China most use VPN.

I like how at one point South Korea had more Soviet hardware than North Korea

man i really wish there was a north and south korean tech tree in war thunder

@scottn7cy

2 жыл бұрын

North Korean tech shrubbery?

@Battyj

2 жыл бұрын

So china part 2? When China is already America and Russia part 2

@Jungle_Studio

2 жыл бұрын

NK tanks in war thunder, free, buy it when you start playing, equipped with a 122mm gun, vs other noob tanks with a 30mm machine gun, noob tanks would still win, NK tanks are sitting ducks, useless against ww2 tech

@pacivalmuller9333

Жыл бұрын

@ policedab1112 No. T-62 beats a Tiger any day

@Ilikegunz

10 ай бұрын

⁠NK Still makes BT tanks and T-34’s, so a T-62 would never fight a Tiger

With a single family holding all political power and with head of state coming only from the next generation it fits the description of an Absolute Monarchy.

Putting the HL2 soundtrack on a video about an closed communist dictatorship that does activities similar to Half-Life 2's City 17 Combine forces is... fitting.

@americanidiot6580

2 жыл бұрын

this comment is underrated.

i'm hearing an uptick in the quality of the voicework in these videos, keep it up!

This feels like the old Iraqi army. Large but outdated.

@pacivalmuller9333

Жыл бұрын

But NK has nukes

@LAV-III

Жыл бұрын

@@pacivalmuller9333 yeah but they’re based on old Soviet models that could probably be shot down with a patriot SAM or THAAD

@LAV-III

Жыл бұрын

@StarOfDavid444 no don’t you think it.

If North Korea had a bigger and more updated airforce to give their ground units aircover, they would be a force to reckoned with. Then again there's the problem of resources, do they even have enough fuel to invade the South? I don't think the Kim dynasty would risk having their soldiers see the real conditions of South Korea.

@johnd2058

2 жыл бұрын

That's not even the half of it. At 3:07 , what's up with the commander in foreground's chinstrap?! Too gaunt to make symmetry work? What about the slant of that belt? How unstable is that SPG?! Not to mention the fact that, as usual, DPRK soldiers look like skeletons whose uniforms must be draped over their belts to hide the fact. Developing sufficient nutrition and adequate training should take priority over fighter aircraft.

@jacky9590

2 жыл бұрын

according to north korean refugees, the North Korean army lacks spare parts to conduct repairs, which makes its already old fleet of jets incapable of fighting an aerial war.

@sinisterisrandom8537

2 жыл бұрын

The main issue is if NK even attempts to invade SK, you have several ally forces whom would assist NK.

@Schimml0rd

2 жыл бұрын

@@sinisterisrandom8537 lol no, why would they risk a war for some fatsy? XD Edit: if anything, the moment Kim declares war some kgb sniper takes off his head :D

@lucianobattistoniromero4618

2 жыл бұрын

@@sinisterisrandom8537 lmao who would risk their countries for Kim's fat ass? China? Russia? Please

Thanks for the listing of their armored vehicles, but where is your analysis on how it is "The Most Bloated Modern Army?" What makes them bloated?

A great effort. TY.

NK’s army is simply a front for an obedient unpaid labor force.

@ethanclupper7034

2 жыл бұрын

Its only obedient because they're forced to be. When death or imprisonment is the only other option, you'd work too

@rbhill7862

2 жыл бұрын

That’s slavery for you

@mxn1948

2 жыл бұрын

their army is probably the most well treated people(other than the political leadership) in NK

@naitnait00

2 жыл бұрын

@@mxn1948 Nope, full of starving people who have to steal to stay alive. No leave/breaks so you aren't seeing family for a decade. No real military training as well

@mxn1948

2 жыл бұрын

@@naitnait00 i didnt say it was good. i said "best treated in NK", meaning the normal peasants have it even worse in general.

3:09 wait how is the driver supposed to see where he is going with the hatch closed? there is no sight on the hatch or hull !

@WellBattle6

2 жыл бұрын

You can see there are view slits on the two rectangular boxes stick out in front of the gun compartment behind the open hatches.

@shivanshna7618

2 жыл бұрын

With blessings of Kim

@SomeRndomGoose

2 жыл бұрын

I mean it's a SPG so it's usually pretty far from frontlines

@Windows98R

2 жыл бұрын

@@shivanshna7618 it’s like budget “Guidance by Stalin”

Is that HL2 soundtrack on the background?? Fitting.

Did Chrysler sell the data package to North Korea? Or perhaps it's not Abrams at all, it just looks like one?

@captainfactoid3867

2 жыл бұрын

They actually have a video on that tank. It just looks like one.

@captainfactoid3867

2 жыл бұрын

Unless you are talking about the K1 which is a South Korean design which is based on one of the Abrams prototypes. The North Koreans do have an Abrams lookalike but it is domestic to them.

@X.Y.Z.07

2 жыл бұрын

@@captainfactoid3867 Baby Abrams

@sinisterisrandom8537

2 жыл бұрын

@@X.Y.Z.07 more like a disguided T-55. That does a shitty job at that as well.

@X.Y.Z.07

2 жыл бұрын

@@sinisterisrandom8537 ah no, I was refering to SK K1 tank... It was nick named Baby Abrams by US servicemen stationed there..

We your subs will want you to reach 500k subs one day.

I guess we are using the word 'modern' very loosely these days. lol

I didn’t know tank encyclopedia had a channel.

If they can prevent South Korean Air power using some clones of S-300 and kub from being an issue then their armor and artillery is strong enough to stop any south Korean advance. But i doubt their own army would have much of a chance invading South. It's evenly matched.

Interesting video, and although I realize this channels is based on content about tanks, Although I would love it if you would expand this video into a short series, with videos looking at a different area of the NK military

I guess even Tiger IIs would be a formidable adversary against North Korean Armour.

@hauntedhouse7827

2 жыл бұрын

Bob Semples would be a worthy adversary against these jokers.

@cascadianrangers728

2 жыл бұрын

lol have you ever seen one? tiger ii are formidable against modern mbts in size and weigh; It's freaking excessively giant and formidable in every dimension except practicality and reason

@brothergunns5055

2 жыл бұрын

@@cascadianrangers728 formidable against modern MBTs?! You know what happened in the Battle of 73 Eastings right?

@cascadianrangers728

2 жыл бұрын

@@brothergunns5055 I said formidable in size and scale. Weighs as much if not more than many mbts, and it's certainly not a low profile vehicle, being substantially taller than many mbts. I'm very well aware of what modern tanks can do, having operated with Abrams in combat and seen first hand, and am not talking performance but rather dimensions. It's a huge vehicle, and everything about it is crazy and giant and nonsensical.

@brothergunns5055

2 жыл бұрын

@@cascadianrangers728 I see. Sorry then. My bad. There's been a misunderstanding from my side.

the valve music is perfect

5:40 ZSU-23-4 has 4 cannons of 23mm bore, not 2 cannons of 57mm bore which is ZSU-57-2. 9:40 Primitive composite armor? Iraqi T-55 Enigma is that, DPRK has acquired T-72A's from Iran that captured it from Iraq during Iran-Iraq War.

@kurousagi8155

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t think Iraq actually had T-72As. Just T-72M1s.

A-10 fodder. Without air cover they're toast. The reactions of former DPRK soldiers (officers as well as grunts) to US weapons videos on other channels are instructive.

@lukapreradovic4466

2 жыл бұрын

If that was case then A-10 would have been deployed on Korean peninsula, guess why they weren't? Because DPRK has domestic clones of Igla MANPADS and S-300PMU1/2 system along soon deploying Tor like SAM.

@user-jq5bs8ij1u

2 жыл бұрын

@@lukapreradovic4466 there are a-10's in korea

@mxn1948

2 жыл бұрын

of course. at this point the worry is the NK artillery that can reach seoul, and of course their nuclear weapons.

@user-jq5bs8ij1u

2 жыл бұрын

@@mxn1948 in 2010 north korean artillery forces launched a surprise attack on yeounpoung island near the DMZ almost half of the shells and Rockets fell into the sea and most of the ones that hit were dud rounds i don't think their artillery is much of a threat now

@user-jq5bs8ij1u

2 жыл бұрын

@@mxn1948 it was a surprise atrack on area where civilians live and only 4 died sooo

Love the Half-Life music.

@bushyowie6679

2 жыл бұрын

so im not the only one who noticed

DPRK is awesome

Wooo!

Wait is that Half Life Music?

I don't know what he's saying but I like the way he is saying it

I remember the fascination with NK in the early and mid 2000s. There had to be a NK documentary and travel video through the "mysterious country" on every channel. It's been awhile since I've heard something like this however. Great job!👌👌👌 My mom has a Ford Escort that's just a rebranded 323. But it's made by Mazda/Ford, in America😁😁😁

Still use ppsh still a cracking sub machine gun just thought they would use the ak by now

@gingergorilla695

2 жыл бұрын

Nothing can stop 7.62 Tokerev at 800 rounds a minute

@reform-revolution

2 жыл бұрын

depending on what role the weapon is for it can still be effective ..... giving it to back line or crews it can be effective at suppression and survival use as most people wont be quick to charge a dude spraying that much lead at them when they are use to slower rifle fire

@morisco56

2 жыл бұрын

I still use it too. Any problem?

@LAV-III

2 жыл бұрын

They are using domestically produced AKs

@lolasdm6959

2 жыл бұрын

@@gingergorilla695 Have fun hittng anything beyond 100 meters with a Ppsh

5:24 personal opinion but I think the North Korean ZSU clone has a better looking haul design

I asume everyone who noted that a "self-reliant" motorised force, is a no-brainer, ended in front of the firing squad?

@derekhenschel3191

2 жыл бұрын

Mhm

How many of those tanks etc. actually work?

@pacivalmuller9333

Жыл бұрын

Many

like leader like army when it comes to bloated

Ayy half life music

This is not WarThunder folks, i see a lot of "military experts" on comments lmao

When you talk about armor than talk about armor,not about politics!

I wonder if they will ever get their war.

nice targets.........................

I doubt they could even fill the fuel tanks for half these vehicles let alone keep them serviceable in the field for any length of time, lets not forget about ammunition aswell. DPRK is the worlds biggest paper tiger

Modern North Korean tech is old tech with fresh paint.

I wonder why China doesn't do the same for NK as the U.S did for S.K... Clearly they have the wealth and know-how now to invest there. the U.S uses S.K as an extension of their geopolitical power, and a strong S.K economically and militarily was in their interest... Isn't this the case for Chinas relation with N.K as well?

@zafraz1077

2 жыл бұрын

Im guessing it is because NK is, for a lack of a better word, craycray. Who would guess what Mr Kim would do with more economic and technological power. It helps for Kim to act like a madman, but i guess it comes with the disadvantage of even allies distrusting them.

@Seriona1

2 жыл бұрын

It's because that China defensive policy is different from the Soviet doctrine. All China cares about is making sure each nation that borders them is pro China or at least anti west and has tried it's best to keep it that way. The strange issue with North Korea is that China knows North Korea is a hot gun just waiting to explode and acts illogical in the modern world. China has openly said they rather deal with South Korea because at least they can be reasonable when it comes to diplomacy. North Korea on the other hands always screams to China to help them restart the Civil War and China has turned it down because they know they have to take the brunt of the work in order to make it work. Ever since US and the Free World withdraw from South Vietnam, North Korea has gotten this view that they believe they don't need to defeat the US in order to secure South Korea, they just need to inflict enough pain to scare them away. They begged China to restart the war after Vietnam and China continues to turn them down because once again, China has to do the bulk of the work.

@mxn1948

2 жыл бұрын

China Tried. china has, on multiple occasions, suggest that NK start chinese-style reforms. the north korean leadership simply doesn't want to do it. and unlike SK, NK is no henchman of anyone and china cant force them. china has no fine control there, just a large hammer that can break NK.

these are the goofiest designs out there

Who would win? -Thousands of Soviet and post-soviet tanks, self-propelled artillery, and anti-air guns -a couple jet bois

@pacivalmuller9333

Жыл бұрын

Thousands of Soviets would win. And NK nukes

Why didn't fight ROK for food?

Those apc with mounted duo nachine guns are probably just gonna end up dead when theygo up against 50cals

Using resources available within the nation? So the tanks are made of kimchi and coal?

@pacivalmuller9333

Жыл бұрын

Yes

I think the main problem of dprk is juche ideology. Dprk lack resource and the geography is mountainous. So dprk cannot survive alone, They must open their economy.

@MK_ULTRA420

2 жыл бұрын

It's not even real Juche. Juche is a Confucian philosophy, outlining how people should learn from others to master their talents via apprenticeship, to then teach people what you have learned once you have achieved mastery. It sounds great but when applied to politics it means the leader has to be beyond flawless, which is why the Kim dynasty is said to read minds, control the moon and tides, and the foreign aid they receive is actually "tribute" for the west losing the war.

@afifberlian9218

2 жыл бұрын

@@MK_ULTRA420 wow tribute

@MK_ULTRA420

2 жыл бұрын

@@afifberlian9218 Yeah that's how the propaganda is over there.

"Modern" and "North Korea" don't go toghether

Modern?

it's gonna be 3rd Korean war instead of 2nd Korean war, this is a massive oversight for such a reliable source

@williamt.sherman9841

2 жыл бұрын

if you want to get it like that it could be the 40th Korean War then.

@spartainwarrior6445

2 жыл бұрын

@@williamt.sherman9841 you know that there are two wars called the "Korean war" not just any wars involving Korea

@williamt.sherman9841

2 жыл бұрын

@@spartainwarrior6445 what was the other one?

@spartainwarrior6445

2 жыл бұрын

@@williamt.sherman9841 the second korean war

@williamt.sherman9841

2 жыл бұрын

@@spartainwarrior6445 between who? what years?

I always scratch my head when it's called The Democratic Peoples Republic as it isn't Democratic or a Republic.

@ro_5907

2 жыл бұрын

I thimk the name is aimed for a reunification?

@TwoDollarGararge

2 жыл бұрын

Thats just a thing authoritarian states do

@shivanshna7618

2 жыл бұрын

It's some unholy mix of communism and more monarchy

@Seriona1

2 жыл бұрын

Actually it is Democratic and Republic by the definitions of the words. Democratic in the sense they do have elections, only one person runs. Republic in the sense they have a Constitution, they do.

Calling North Koreans military modern is a bold overstatement.

@TanksEncyclopediaYT

2 жыл бұрын

We've explained it before, we'll explain it again. When we're saying modern, we're referring to the Era, not the technological prowess.

Πολλά πεζούν ρόλο σε μια νίκη περισσότερο το ανθρώπινο δυναμικό και το θάρρος Μετά είναι τα όπλα και η τεχνολογία και η υπέροχη και σε αέρα και θάλασσα και την ξηρά. Και η Ιταλία του Μουσολίνι τα είχε όλα η Ελλάδα όπως κερδίσε των πόλεμο. Αυτά για την ιστορία να μην ξεχνιόμαστε τό ίδιο και η Ταλιμπάν τους διέλυσαν τους Αμερικανούς γιδοβοσκοι είναι οι Αφγανοί αλλά είχαν θαρος και ψυχή πολέμησαν για των τόπο τους. Και το Βιετνάμ το ίδιο δεν νικά πάντα ο πιο δυνατός.

The strongest country in the world. Hail the supreme leader

At the start of the Korean war most industry was located in the north. South Korea was agrarian. 1/10 of the population of North Korea was killed in allied/US bombing during the war. Not hard to figure out why they hate the US!

also most obsolete.

Haha, the narrator said his name was Tony. Hysterical.

North Korea can barely feed its soldiers.

@iraholden3606

2 жыл бұрын

How can a population be starving for 70 years straight lol. You can oppose North Korea without downing the kool aid

@jamesdallas1493

2 жыл бұрын

@@iraholden3606 look at the pictures of North Korea soldiers, they are under feed. The only fat persons in North Korea is Kim Jong-un

@External2737

2 жыл бұрын

@@iraholden3606 There are periodic "short" generations. Societies can survive starvation, there are obvious physical consequences in the people.

@iraholden3606

2 жыл бұрын

@@External2737 lol

@External2737

2 жыл бұрын

@@iraholden3606 Starving people is funny? Communism is notorious for poor allocation of resources and corruption. Look on transparency international for North Korea's corruption index, is the worst in the world. That means food shortages. Or are you one who believes NK has had no coronavirus too? One can oppose NK while looking into why the regime survives. Due to food, oil, and spare parts, NK would fight a short war unless once again a neighbor helps. It is an economy in shambles without the means to store significant surplus crops nor trade goods for global supply. Please read a book on economics.

A Tesla cyber truck with a 50 cal would be better then some of these

I bet the NK armed forces will put up more of a fight than the Afghan did and they have shit equipment and no food.

Instead of tanks why not just...... Give up... 🙆‍♂️

i mean ..... id say the US is the most bloated just going by the raw amount of cash spent on stuff we dont need or use

@ThroneOfBhaal

2 жыл бұрын

B-But my military industrial complex...

@creatoruser736

2 жыл бұрын

Tell me you don't know what percentage of GDP the US spends on its military without telling me you don't know what percentage of GDP the US spends on its military.

@reform-revolution

2 жыл бұрын

@@creatoruser736 we literally spend over half our yearly budget on the military ....... if we cut it by ten percent we could give every person in North America (not just the US) healthcare

@Schimml0rd

2 жыл бұрын

@@creatoruser736 lul have you ever seen a single statistic in your life? XD Or just the colored animals trump was showing around? XD

@MayankPrasad111

2 жыл бұрын

@@reform-revolution here comes the socialist begger.

The equipment is either outdated or extremely cheaply built or even both. Might do good against south Korea for a little while but against nato airpower they're useless.

@user-jq5bs8ij1u

2 жыл бұрын

Nah we can overrun them easily china is the problem

@lanceschaerer6875

2 жыл бұрын

Youre south Korean I assume!

I can't make fun of them because my country uses NATO junk from 60 years ago.

The "modern army" bit made me giggle thinking about NK 😂

😊😚☺🥰😍🤩😂🤣😅🙊☺🥳🤠😳😳😳😳😳😳🥸😎🤓🥸🤮🤢🤕😵😵🤯😕🥺😱😤😡🤡👹👺😈👿👾💀☠🤖😠😠😠😠😠😰😻😹💘💌💟❣💞💓💗💖😾😹💯🤙🤜🤛

Because they are BROKE!!!!!

So much for a 'modern' military lol.

가난한 군대~~

Lol easy targets for Abrams tanks 😂

@deltared7455

2 жыл бұрын

Like fish in the Barrel boys.

@highjumpstudios2384

2 жыл бұрын

Abrahams been dead since the biblical era.

@hefinekaelangyudha381

2 жыл бұрын

Better dont underestimate it mate, that thing can still be an afv

@deltared7455

2 жыл бұрын

@@highjumpstudios2384 Yea True really sad

@deltared7455

2 жыл бұрын

@@hefinekaelangyudha381 if you are talking about these light vehicles using Anti Missile and MBT using 125mm Cannon yea need to be careful.

LOL, what a joke

Most bloated? Did you forget the US exists?