High honor: "Sean was closer to me than I realized. I'll miss him." Low honor: "Skill issue."

@TheMartyrNeverFades

2 ай бұрын

nah, i feel like low honor is just straightforward

@DrSandia7

21 күн бұрын

XD

@houledea1073

2 күн бұрын

​@@henrytheovalpeople always say that being bad honor until chapter 5 and 6 makes the most sense but, i think it's neutral honor that makes the most sense.

high honor: “he was like my brother 😢” low honor: “bro got headshotted 😹🤣🫵💀😭🙏 “

@zuddtraXR

4 ай бұрын

LMAO

@Necrodude

4 ай бұрын

low honor: bro got 360 no scoped 😂

@idrinksandwiches

4 ай бұрын

@@Necrodude 💀💀

@DiegoBanger208

4 ай бұрын

bro got headshotted and still no muneh 😡🤣🤯💀‼️🙏😾

@idrinksandwiches

4 ай бұрын

@@DiegoBanger208 💀

Low honor Arthur was only thinking about what needed to be done. He had less emotion.

@angelirizarry2666

4 ай бұрын

I think it's more accurate to say that he repressed his emotions more in low honor High honor seems like a genuine character at the age of arthur, while low honor seems like he's being controlled by an evil being

@MyTwoCents2

4 ай бұрын

And is more productive with low honor

@smthsmth

4 ай бұрын

No shit Sherlock?

@VahanMartirosyan-ql4vg

4 ай бұрын

@@smthsmthI wanted to write here exactly the same

@LiquidIsokisok

4 ай бұрын

@@angelirizarry2666 yea that evil being is the player

High Honor Arthur is the canon way to play because there is ZERO chance low honor Arthur wouldn’t have killed Micah at some point

@GunSpyEnthusiast

2 ай бұрын

low honor Arthur would likely have choked him to death on guama.

@Ryan-ij3ge

2 ай бұрын

@@GunSpyEnthusiast if he let him live that long!!

@theoutsiderjess4869

Ай бұрын

Low honor Arthur still probably disliked Micah anyway Arthur may have been a jerk but he isnt constantly getting the gang in trouble

@bIuecap

Ай бұрын

I think the cannon way is to play low honor arthur until like halfway through the game

@AlvosElRey

Ай бұрын

@@theoutsiderjess4869no he means Low Honor Arthur would not have let Micah linger around as long as he did. Low Honor Arthur would have killed him as soon as chapter 3 if he didn’t kill him for the shitstorm in strawberry first

Sean had the second worst death to Kieran

@shahar_3411

4 ай бұрын

Forgot about mah boah Lenny... :(

@CarlosAntonio-su8wv

4 ай бұрын

​@@siranon Besides still being able to live for i guess 30 seconds, John was shot +20 times. His death, alongside kieran's, were the most brutal ones to me.

@faridagasiyev7042

4 ай бұрын

Sean died faster than Lenny or Hosea, because he was shot in the head, not chest

@sotis2

4 ай бұрын

@@CarlosAntonio-su8wv Yeah, Kieran, most likely, had the eyes ripped out first and then was decapicated. That's an awful way to go

@inodinojan878

4 ай бұрын

He had the least painful death of all of them

Fun fact: Peter Blomquist said this was his favorite scene to play as Micah. He actually practiced how to draw dual wield guns like that. It took about 23 takes and a whole week for him to get it right.

@xhbirohx2214

4 ай бұрын

that's nice, respectable and interesting. BUT I hate his character so..

@xhbirohx2214

4 ай бұрын

if I were to finish this, I would get banned

@Yuni-is-Schrodingers-Fox

4 ай бұрын

@@xhbirohx2214 good, then he did his job. Also even Micah's VA hates Micah. So you can take solace in that.

@xhbirohx2214

4 ай бұрын

@@Yuni-is-Schrodingers-Fox I guess. Game's a masterpiece all around. But dang they made me hate unconditionaly a fictional concept.

@TheJpf79

4 ай бұрын

For all Micah's faults, he had taken at least two enemies out at the start before anyone else reacted.

Low-honor Arthur can be so cold... I liked Sean, he really was like an annoying little brother.

@bmqww223

4 ай бұрын

I always play as high honor , i just can't shoot unarmed npc anymore the game is so realisticXD

@dankdaze42069

4 ай бұрын

You fool he's not cold He's just angry he wants vengeance and finds all of this unnecessary but he just can't cope with it by feeling

@AnimeFan22858

4 ай бұрын

fr tho he was like an annoying little brother

@sabo5849

4 ай бұрын

nah low honor is cold@@dankdaze42069

@MOONSUN4Life

4 ай бұрын

@@dankdaze42069 And you apparently can't cope with the opinions of random strangers on the internet.

Micah's situational awareness and ability to quickly act even as Bill and Arthur are taken off guard really is the epitome of "sometimes having a bad guy on your team is for the best."

@captainleonard123

Ай бұрын

rats are quick like that.

@planescaped

Ай бұрын

Micah was super useful, and in better times he might have even been a boon to the gang. Problem was he had joined them at the tail end of their good times, and he only sped up their end.

@MrNotaterrorist

Ай бұрын

"It's because he's a psycho... But at least he's our psycho." -LCpl Ray Person

@clintonknight9798

Ай бұрын

Evolutionary Psychology has a lot to say for psychopaths. You would think they would get bred out by society or selective co-operation. Reality is there is something to be said about having the village sociopath who can do the things others can't.

@GergelyGyurics

28 күн бұрын

@@clintonknight9798 they aren't actually useful in combat situation. Psychopaths - formally saying, people with antisocial personality disorder - experience fear in a different way, it actually doesn't hold them back (and sometimes can even make them take more risk). Psychopaths die early in combat situations. To be fair, i don't think Micah is a psychopath. He's a manipulative SOB, but he has a couple of scenes where we can see him become really anxious socially. (Like when he wants to dance with Mary-Beth and gets shot down.)

Sean never deserved to die.

@dillonhunt1720

4 ай бұрын

Didn't he literally slit a guy's throat after reminiscing about Ireland with him?

@maggiemay1720

4 ай бұрын

@@dillonhunt1720I mean- it was part of the mission, we needed to burn the fields so..

@sorar1kukira

4 ай бұрын

If you inflict unjust pain upon others, you can't really wish to not receive it upon yourself... I get where you're coming from though.

@hakeemlecco4109

4 ай бұрын

Don’t be sad he’s one of the few who got laid in this game

@Brklynking93

4 ай бұрын

​@sorar1kukira exactly i liked him but you can't say a bandit and a killer who targets innocents didn't deserve it.

If you play low Honor Arthur he writes the high Honor Death of Sean in his Journal

@crzvm1lk

4 ай бұрын

wait so he lies about burying him?

@knaxx_itachi6609

4 ай бұрын

@@crzvm1lkcome again?

@FancyPantaloons

4 ай бұрын

​@@crzvm1lk I didn't play RDR 2 but i think they mean that they still bury him in low honor but it's done off-screen. So the difference is that Arthur cares more about the confederate gold in low honor but he cares more about Sean's death in high honor

@RandomOne1999

4 ай бұрын

He writes both down no matter what, he only talks about each one depending on his honor

@knaxx_itachi6609

4 ай бұрын

never seen the low honor line in his journal @@RandomOne1999

That Low honor animation was way more cinematic, super tense. I like that. More western in a way

@Taima

27 күн бұрын

Yeah, I kinda wish we had both. The intense vulture scene first, and then maybe Arthur saying the "little brother" lines in camp or some other fashion afterwards. You'd get the best of both worlds.

micha's draw is so impressive

@user-hi8qw1xg9o

4 ай бұрын

Right? Micah have no chances against Arthur in hand to hand combat, but he's a top gunslinger, arguably same level as Arthur and John. We saw his dead eye moment right after Sean got shot

@arizenation3188

4 ай бұрын

It's a reference, look it up

@crazydudeqqqw

4 ай бұрын

Ngl I think Micah knew the ambush was coming because he was already a traitor at this point. He probably just knew where to look

@thevirtuoso8362

4 ай бұрын

​@@user-hi8qw1xg9ostill arthur the very same day he died drew faster than micah

@oleschmeed3916

4 ай бұрын

Micah is a menace with those irons. The moment his hand pulls that cold red and black death handle, the other NPCs shudder. Knowing they'll never be able to kiss their wife again, or hold their children.

Micah was FAST with those 3 shots

@JoseKarloGonzales

4 ай бұрын

Arthur was shocked with what happened to Sean

@TheMightyGoldenWest

4 ай бұрын

In real life that'd be almost impossible. Micah must be ambidextrous

@goodbye_account_abandoned

4 ай бұрын

He had loads of practice 😂

@danieldurango4602

4 ай бұрын

Arthur, Micah, John and Dutch had the dead eye skill. All were top gunslingers

@El-Leon-VLLC

4 ай бұрын

​@danieldurango4602 I believe Dead Eye is just a representation of how good shooters they are and not a skill itself.

Let's be fair to Micah, after the headshot, his fast response in 360 degrees while dual wielding killing 3 guys before we could notice was nuts.

@DividendFiend

24 күн бұрын

And while using "double action" revolvers which are stupid inaccurate if memory serves me correctly.

@cadendains8106

23 күн бұрын

@@DividendFiend If I remember correctly, they were 'inaccurate' because they had insane poundage on their trigger pulls, compared to the 3 or 4 typical in single actions, these instead being almost if not over 10 pounds. That means every time you pull the trigger without cocking the hammer back, you had a good chance of pulling your barrel off target.

@lordcaedus8713

16 күн бұрын

Say what you will about Micah, but that man can shoot

Even the tone of the background music that matches each of Arthur's narrations is different. It's a beautiful touch. High honor is sad but hopeful and reflective. Low honor is cold and foreboding, with a menace that brings shivers.

@lolpeakaboo

Ай бұрын

Sigma paragraph

Low Honor: Gist of the story. Speedrun. High Honor: Heart is put into it.

@liandre9035

Ай бұрын

not really, i took alot of time with this game and i kept low honor almost the whole time until finding out arthur was sick. Then i kinda started "rushing" because i felt it was not immersive spending another 100 hours strolling around. And i knew we would play as john so i wouldnt lock myself out of anything.

Should’ve been Micah instead

@captainhostile101

4 ай бұрын

they'd all be dead then

@Muksss

3 ай бұрын

@@captainhostile101 only reason why they were frozen was because Sean got offed, if Micah got offed no would be that hurt that they'd stay still there for a solid 3 seconds

@captainhostile101

3 ай бұрын

@@Muksss find that hard to believe, Micah was until a point albeit a piece of shit, a valuable asset to the gang. They froze because its a normal human reaction when something like this happens, only that Micah is more quick on the trigger and was on guard better. I still think they'd all be dead if it wasnt for Micah.

High honor: they killed Sean😢 Low honor:SEAN IS DEAD AND NO MUNEH 😡

Id argue sean had one of the best deaths. No pain or fear just lights out

@akiluro2981

Ай бұрын

Guess each‘s Character Death in RDR is a representation of they worst fears or best dreams. Guess Sean was too innocent to be tortured like Arthur, but still not a mess like John in 1. Hm. Almost feel happy for him.

@user-pg9pw3ml7q

Ай бұрын

@@akiluro2981 Thats a really good view, never thought about it like that. The same applies to lenny because even though he was panicked due to the robbery, he only had a split second of fear. Unfortunately same couldnt be said for Hosea

Micah giving Sean that little boot kick was so unnecessary lmao what a dick 😂

@mavezemagnifique

10 күн бұрын

I think that's how most cowboys pay respects to their friends and to their opponents after after dueling. It's either a kick to the boot or kick sand on them, if there is sand

I agree with that one guy who wrote on YT - the best gameplay is to be low honor before TB and high honor after that.

@maxmeier787

4 ай бұрын

I think it's not "that one guy on YT", but that's how the game is meant to be played. ;-) It leads the player in that direction.

@deadventurer4128

3 ай бұрын

Yeah, and that's a lot closer to real life. People tend to shape up when faced with their mortality.

@futurestoryteller

3 ай бұрын

Hilariously that could've been me, but it also could've been literally anybody else, I guess. Part of what I said was the game subtly hints that they want you to play bad, at first, I tend to miss these little hints, especially in games like this where Rockstar is known for holding the player's hand through setpieces and so forth. The two biggest hints are if you save the Blackwater witness Arthur will suggest that it's out of character for him. (I think you're "supposed to" do this though) the other is making the collection for Strauss. It would be interesting if these kinds of hints exist to subtly pull the player the other way after his diagnosis though, to a writer it would just feel like a natural evolution, but to some players they might not see any reason to play the game any differently than they had been.

@maxmeier787

3 ай бұрын

@@futurestoryteller If I should guess, I think 80 % of the players played the game like this.

@antlbvc5445

Ай бұрын

I was low honor from somewhat high h from the bandit challenge and gone high h again after it was dome. Around the time of tb. Felt thematic

I stopped playing as low honor Arthur when he got diagnosed with tuberculosis. In fact, I only managed to get good honor when I decided to help John in the final mission, otherwise I would be in trouble

i have gone robbing houses and fishing so many times with him just to watch him die like that

this is why I went max honor arthur and low honor john, to me it just fit the story line and voice acting better and overall got better cut scenes out of it.

Sean reminded me of the soldiers I had under me. I honestly got a little teary eyed considering we just burned a tobacco farm together. High honor is clearly the superior experience.

That sucks Sean was about to make the best your mom joke of the century

holy shitballs ive NEVER been able to bring myself to play as low honor arthur so I never saw this before. Damn that was cold with those scavenger birds picking at the bodies and arthurs "meh" retelling of seans skull getting opened up

@maalikserebryakov

Ай бұрын

Low honour Arthur is how everyone should be if they’re sub5

@theoutsiderjess4869

Ай бұрын

​@@maalikserebryakov never did low honor and dont plan too idk that man or want him

@olivercattanach2680

Ай бұрын

Yh, I just naturally played high honour and felt bad after harming innocent people. I think I made the right choice bc I got to see the beautiful Arthur death in which he sacrifices himself for John and died staring at the sunset. I only kill O'Driscolls, racists and slavers.

Micah’s aim was on-point during the ambush

You totally walked right through that horse poop. smh.

He may be a dirty rat but Micah was smooth af on that draw

You did the right thing friend props to you good karma and strangers gold are going your way dude faith in humanity restored epically!!

I think it's crazy how this game has the ability to make players completely rethink their choices.

To be fair, Micah did some Bad Ass shoots here

@edwardarnett9815

4 ай бұрын

Micah was a good fighter. I don't think anybody ever said anything bad about him when it came to his skill in a fight. It was just literally everything else about him 😆😆

@theoutsiderjess4869

Ай бұрын

​@@edwardarnett9815 he is good with a gun not his fists

High honor: He was like a brother to me. Low honor: WHERE'S MY CONFEDERATE GOLD!

Micah not only super fast here, his awareness top notch, in milliseconds he understand from where was the shot, from where they became surrounded, this scene just chefs kiss. You can say every thing you want about Micah, but he's a great gunslinger, cold and fast thinking, even Arthur that anticipated ambush cant react that fast

The moment i stopped my low honour playthrough was with the diagnosis. I feel thats the realistic place. It's a shock to his core and i feel itd rustle his jimmies enoigh for him to rethink his life.

The first time I heard Arthur dialogue on chapter 3 as someone who only play high honor and low honor Arthur scared the hell outta me the way he didnt care about Sean broke my heart

Dang I need to replay as high honor throughout the entire story. I was low honor throughout most of it then started changing my ways when I realized Arthur was running out of time lol

@sotis2

4 ай бұрын

The way you played with the honor is probably how Arthur did. Low honor or middle honor on the bar until he got diagnosed and he started changing his ways and actively trying to raise his honor

@Multifixated

4 ай бұрын

Yea that feels exactly how the story should be told.

@kerlyestrada1884

4 ай бұрын

you played canon development then.

@FlyBoyKhi

4 ай бұрын

@@kerlyestrada1884 I started changing my ways right after Arthur is in Saint Denis and passes out from coughing and then sees the doctor. It was right there when I decided to change my ways lol

@commandervile394

4 ай бұрын

I did mostly good/neutral run (got the neutral and good endings) so now I started on the low honor playthrough, just being the absolute worse scum possible.

Fun fact: the drawing in the journal is different depending on the honor level as well. With High honor, Sean lays away from the viewer, flat on his back as if he were sleeping, with his hat askew and face obscured. With Low honor, Sean lays towards the viewer, his disfigured face is prominently shown and he lays crumpled up.

Apart from seans death micahs three shot move was lit ash

Something I never noticed is that Bill gets grazed by a gunshot too and runs away clutching it

I had high honor all the way until Arthur died. I was really attached to him and the choices I made him go through with. He felt realer than most people I know.

I can never bring myself to play Arthur in low honor

Your vids are so good man

Damn I got a jolt of emotion hit me watching this I already beat the game but man it still hurts

From what it seems, this scene is the last man standing turned around.

rdr2 speedrunner here, I've totally forgotten the high honor scenes I got in my casual play. because low honor is just the quickest route.

Damn i disapointed myself when i finished the last mission you play as Arthur (Red Dead Redemption < mission name), I had low honor and thought he'd die looking at the sunset, but no stupid Micah cam and shot him in the head

@dudemp4

4 ай бұрын

TENNIS BOAT🗣️‼️‼️‼️‼️

@Turnip397

4 ай бұрын

@@dudemp4TENIS BOAT 🗣️💯💯💯

@theoutsiderjess4869

Ай бұрын

If you forgive people's debt, kick out strauss and help the Downes and finally help John up that Mountain you will get thr Death Arthur envisioned as the game give you a massive high honor boost fowards the end

@olivercattanach2680

Ай бұрын

@@theoutsiderjess4869 Yh i got that first time, and i genuinely teared up. Arthur died as he would have liked, staring into the sunset and dreaming about the West.

I tried playing as low honor and i don’t think I can ever finish it. I always end up bouncing back to high honor. It’s heartbreaking seeing Arthur being that damn cold.

My honour was as low as it could get at that point 😂

I wish they had the gtav switch mechanic and you could play through the prequel as both John and Arthur

My favorite arhtur thoughts are when he talks about the fire that burns inside saddie for the love of her husband and the one where he expresses guilt for not being able to save kieran after kieran saved him.

is just so cool how arthur have a sixth sense

i think the developers sows seeds like this early but the real time i think you switch to high honor is arthurs visit to the doctor when he finds out he got tb

I like low honour better honestly, it relates to how we as the player feel. He acknowledges that Sean died and that it was unfortunate, but he doesn’t linger on it, it has more of a gritty western feel to it.

@gamingvideogamimggaming

Ай бұрын

no

@tristanlambert658

Ай бұрын

@@gamingvideogamimggaming yes

@softcoreman802

12 күн бұрын

​@@gamingvideogamimggaming yes

0:17 A bit of a shout-out to Rockstar's subtitle work here. Sean's final line is completely subtitled despite being cut off in-game, keeping what happens a surprise even for speed readers. More games should do that.

did anyone else notice micahs shooting? bros good

I will say, Micah went sicko mode here lol

Idk why but I got the high honor dialogue but the journal part had low honor dialogue (still with high honor cutscene)

I always wondered why sean’s body turned blue immediately after the head shot

Damn,say what you want,but Micah's quickdraw's on another level!

I remember my first play through with this mission, I said out loud whooooaaa shoot, I was super bummed and I swear before Arthur even said he was like an annoying little brother that’s exactly how I felt about Sean, Arthur gave Sean a hard time but he cared about him

Micah has a really good aim, he shoot 3 guys in 3 seconds with the damn double missing action revolvers.

Low honour makes more sense, but some high honour dialogue makes more sense also. With this scene, its either or for me.

Sean's death was a bad omen for the gang. Karen's decline is the biggest outcome.

I was unfortunately a bad man at this point too

Sean was my favorite when he died a piece of me died with him

One of the nicest missions

Sean's death was so rough :'(

Regions and where my honor stands on it. Valentine's - Low Honor Rhodes - Decent Honor Saint Denis - Low Honor Guarma - Decent Honor Annesburg - High Honor Reason for this is because in Arthur's prime, he is unstoppable, but ruthless, a force to be reckoned with. It's only till after Chapter 2, he begins trying to be a better person, but when Sean dies, like here, he has a heartfelt moment about his death, and it hardens him, so you go to Saint Denis, where he's back to being cruel and ruthless. Only till Hosea and Lenny get shot and killed, does Arthur consider his fate, but it's put to a hold as he gets taken away by the ocean, and lands himself in a place ruled by a cruel dictator. After seeing the poor people with nothing, it reminds Arthur of what he stood for, and how he has a noticeable cough as consistent as day and night. When he returns, he has a moment with his "Family" until it is ruined by the Pinkertons. When they move to Annesburg, he begins to rethink his choices when he comes across little Ms. Downes, worrying of her son's health. That moment, struck Arthur in his heart that there's still good in him, and to use his time he has left to make things right. On the Top of the hill, as Arthur grows weaker, he dies having the hard earned honor to put him at peace, knowing he tried to do right by others instead of giving in to his greed and selfishness.

High honor Arthur is so much more satisfying. He's a conflicted man who, in another life, would have been a better man. It makes his death hurt even more, which makes the game a masterpiece.

just finished this quest today. poor sean

Low honor arthur is just so cold

I cannot bring myself to go low honor with Arthur. It feels like a disservice to how good the game could be.

Real.

same here i grinded fishing after this mission

Yo this makes me want to play as low honor that was so badass

Lore of The moment I stopped playing as low honor Arthur momentum 100

Micah just popped 3 people in 2 seconds.🥶

i can never go through an entire playthrough as low honor 😭😭too hard

What makes this mission even worse is how you can't prevent Arthur from stepping on horse shit😐

Low honor arthur sounds like a killing robot

high honor is sad, but low honor Arthur seems scared when he's describing Sean's death.

Idk what I did but I had low honor and still got the high honor scene

High honor speech: a good man who loves those caught up in a unraveling gang, just as he is. Low honor: A warrior, a killer, just frustrated by a lack of money and his team is losing manpower.

@higherwaymusic

2 ай бұрын

actually epic

I like to think this is around the time Arthur began to change from low honor to high honor canonically

I stopped playing Low Honor Arthur because the title of "Low Honor" was already taken. By you-know-who.

Hahahaha. That wet slap! Poor Sean.

Low honor Arthur was just more blunt about shit but still felt the same way

Low honour Arthur was out for himself High honour Arthur always held others above himself

I don't think I could ever bring myself to play as low honor arthur

When Sean got taken out it forsure broke my heart man hearing Arthur consider him an annoying little brother just hit different to me

Low honor is literally a whole new game. A proper gritty western.

this is the moment I lost all humanity and switched to low honor...

I'm glad I played as low honor

Here’s a little somthing going low honor I have found makes you just like Micah

*Guarma* Thats when i turned around. Whole place felt like Hell tbh.

@olivercattanach2680

Ай бұрын

Oh yh Guarma hits different to anything else.

This game was made to be played High Honor. In Low Honor you get to have fun, sure, but in High Honor you get the story that led ‎John Marston to think about abandoning his days of being a criminal and focusing on his family

I miss Low H9nor play throughs but I do high honor

When i fall of the horse then i stopped