Thank you for having our Chief Animal Officer, Matt James, on for the show. De-extinction is conservation!

@MeatEaterPodcastNetwork

Ай бұрын

Thanks for joining us!

@Dandymansam

Ай бұрын

75k cloned dogs, what's that? is that conservation?

@coltongittermann1110

Ай бұрын

@@Dandymansamthats available by all kinds of companies. He stated in the beginning cloning isnt new its a couple decades old. I dont think anyone calls that conservation but it is a milestone in genetic research which is the basis for genetic conservation work

@plotholedetective4166

Ай бұрын

No its not, you are making new animals that resemble the extinct creature. There is a zero percent chance you ever make a true mammoth as you don't have a time machine division. All you are doing is making new freak hybrids using genetic material that already failed to survive.

I find it interesting just how niche the meat eater family of entertainment is. Like I would think you guys would be a household name and everyone would know about you. But in reality you pretty much have to be an outdoors nerd to really dig it.

@SB-eu3gc

25 күн бұрын

Eh. I’m a weirdo I guess. I’m a 36 year old wife and mom. I’ve never hunted. I wishI could. I fished as a kid but almost never as an adult. My husband doesn’t hunt though probably would like to. I didn’t grow up around hunters and don’t know any personally. I stumbled across Steve on Joe Rogans Podcast. Found myself watching Meat Eater. And now I’m in a place where I prefer the podcast content more than anything else lol. I’ve seen countless episodes and even watch them repeatedly. I talk about meat eater to so many people who’ve never heard it. Now I haven’t husband reading his Small Game book lol. I love hearing their banter, and to learn about this entire world I was clueless to. I also love the experts he has on. From the duck decoy people to champion bow hunters and historians. All fantastic content.

Beth Shapiro was one of my professors in grad school some years ago. I remember when she gave a lecture in one of our bio ethics classes about the ethics of bringing back extinct organisms. She was totally against it (at the time). I raised my hand in protest and asked, “what if there was a plant or animal that existed in the past that could help fix the issues we face with the planet today?” And she poo poo’d my question and effectively said, “dna doesn’t last that long, it’s not a good idea to bring stuff back because we don’t know the full picture of ramifications.” To hear she’s changed her mind, has me scratching my head. I guess they offered her a ton of $$$. I’ll never forget that interaction. Make no mistake, she’s a great scientist and knows her shit about paleo biology, but she definitely was against this stuff philosophically, 5-6 years ago.

I wish you guys would get Forrest Galante on the podcast. It would be a great conversation.

@wyattford6248

Ай бұрын

Couldn’t agree more. Been saying Steve should do the Wild Times Podcast with Forrest as well

@Bbuckshot2

Ай бұрын

@wyattford6248 yeah I think they would get along like nuts on a dog lol

@dillydilly2196

Ай бұрын

I've been on a Galante and Meateater grind. I've been thinking about this, it would be a great convo!

@marciadawsson9002

Ай бұрын

Forest galante on this podcast would be good asf 👌 🙌 get the wild times crew too..

Your Scientists Were So Preoccupied With Whether Or Not They Could, They Didn’t Stop To Think If They Should~ Malcolm, Jurassic Park, 1993. I had to put this in... I think it would be really awesome to see wooly mammoths and other things from by gone eras the question is is there actually enough room for them. There are a lot of humans on earth today and we dont as a rule like being killed by megafauna or giving land back to nature.. #justonemansrant

@carsonbiggerstaff5860

Ай бұрын

Maybe if they're kept in a zoo or a park? What could possibly go wrong there?

@benmoehring

Ай бұрын

​@@carsonbiggerstaff5860 maybe a bad storm could knock out the power and they could all get out and cause mayhem....lol

@Kentuckyhunter58

Ай бұрын

The mammoth’s habitat is still around there’s just no mammoths there. Secondly Jurassic park is a horror movie, bad things are supposed to happen. Also there is already a park in Siberia set up for the mammoth and they are wanting to put them in Alaska too I think. They wouldn’t be a threat to humanity at all considering we can easily wipe them out. Also the environment never healed from the mammoth going extinct and if we reintroduce it to its environment it would be super good for the environment.

@benmoehring

Ай бұрын

​@@Kentuckyhunter58all good points for sure. I'd like to counter with it feels like anytime man messes with an environmental factor we get it wrong... Aisian Beetles, Rabbits/Hares in Australia, to some extent wolves. If we can't manage the small ones how could we possibly expect to manage the big ones. Also is it ethically sound to do it?

Next to the meat tree episodes, this might be one of my favs. Well done.

Interesting thing about bull boats: we were recently in Scotland and ran into a gentleman at the Highland Folk Museum in Newtonmore whose passion was these small, cloth or hide covered crafts known as coracles. He relayed the story of the Welsch prince Madoc, who apparently, had influence on indigenous tribes such as the Mandan peoples as evidenced by their use of bull boats that resembled Welsch coracles, among other things. Pretty interesting. Obviously I'll be building one for duck hunting.

one of the better episodes i’ve heard in a while.

I had a buddy who saw a wolverine while on a Boy Scout trip up longs peek. This happened in the early 90’s. About 10 years latter another fella I knew saw one near the same spot. I saw one in the mid 90’s in North Port Michigan.

cant help but notice the "Safaris" on steves cup, quick googling later i think meateater has some africa content coming

@Bringyourquivertotheriver

Ай бұрын

I hope you’re wrong, would be a major left turn for the brand.

Hubris is so tempting.

Your morel story was good. I once spent all day looking here in kansas and got home took the trash out and there was about 20 of them against the shed besides a tree. First ones I ever found

What a great podcast as always. NEXT, you guys need to get the guys from SEEK ONE on the podcast!

where did all the podcast and trivia shows go on the youtube?

I have a question to Meateater. What happened to the podcast on spotify? It cut off before in the middle of the last question.

discrete population segment : distinct population segment :: federal monument : National monument

I saw a couple of wolverines in Sweden after crashing on a test track doing ice and snow auto testing. Walking back to the start of the track for signal i saw them running parallell to the track. Being from the Uk i originally thought they were bear cubs, i didnt want to see mum so i ran. After describing what i saw, a local took me to a shop with a taxidermy wolverine on the wall and asked me if i saw that. Said it was pretty rare to see them, they were happy to find out they were in the area still.

What an interesting podcast!

This is like some Resident Evil 2 shit.

Very minor correction, in Australia/Tasmania you cannot hunt any native species like wallabies or possums. Only invasive such as deer, pigs, rabbits. Some animal control is done on kangaroos by culls.

What was the little marine animal they were talking about? Commenting real time could hear it. 1:23:48

@HunterKriberscheck

26 күн бұрын

Vaquita

hey,what happened to your wrist?

@TrumpisImmortal

Ай бұрын

Carpal tunnel.

Messing with nature doesn't always work out well. Hopefully in the future we aren't looking back wondering how we screwed everything up so bad.

This is opening, a Pandora's box man.

@Kentuckyhunter58

Ай бұрын

No this isn’t Jurassic park. Quit thinking this is like something out of movie. The mammoth would literally save the northern environment.

@Dandymansam

Ай бұрын

@@Kentuckyhunter58 it is beyond absurd you state that so definitively. you have no idea what will happen, neither does anyone else. history is replete with examples of well intentioned humans coming up with "solutions" that actually make things worse. and WTF do you mean by "literally save the northern environment"?

That guy needs a bigger shirt! But fuc* this episode was damn good.

Im starting to understand Steve does not like to lose or be wrong 😅

Great episode! This is definitely information that needs to be shared and explained to the masses.

27:10 What happened to Steve's wrist?

@MrThatnativeguy

Ай бұрын

Otter attack

@TrumpisImmortal

Ай бұрын

Carpal tunnel

Great ideas on bring mammoths back, gotchya! So what! There back! Gumasses

At 1:02, he talks about 50% of all mammal life going extinct, wow

How do you get just one podcast without all the others?

I want Matt Rinella back on the podcast ASAP. Thank you.

@dangerousdylan6262

Ай бұрын

Not gonna happen... him and Steve had a falling out

@Sean-yr9cq

Ай бұрын

Nah, I’ll pass, that dude has nothing of value to say. Anyone who thinks they have more of a right to hunt in this country than someone else can pound sand and fuck right off. That dude hates antis just as much as he hates his fellow hunters. He wants it allllll to himself.

@Bringyourquivertotheriver

Ай бұрын

@@dangerousdylan6262 Thank you for stating the obvious Dylan, really appreciate your thoughtful insight.

@MrThatnativeguy

Ай бұрын

Said nobody ever.

What's the targeted age range for the kids podcast?

Well, I have some personal friendliness with Maria, and Sergey. We still hold an older Republican feeling towards the southwest. It's not so far out of reach to see us as highly competent allies as we have from WWII.

I hate to be that guy, but Steve's crack pot theory of birds having hidden dinosaur secrets is actually correct. Look up the chickenosaurus project

@christhomas5937

Ай бұрын

Sure, look at wild turkeys legs, for example, they got scales.

Don’t wolverines need a huge hunting area and don’t like other wolverines. How much space are they going to need.

Awesome talk and definitely in my wheelhouse of interesting things to discuss. I wish he would have gone into more detail about why/how the restoration of "mammoths" would restore or preserve the permafrost and their ancient stomping grounds.

I believe the plural of Mingus would be "Mingi" right?😂

A fresh set of eyes will always find more genes

@plotholedetective4166

Ай бұрын

Outlaw colossal bioscience!

My big question is how these animals like a mammoth are actually going to become wild? There’s no momma mammoth and herd to learn how to be a mammoth from. Do we just hope their instincts kick in? Edit: To be clear, I sure as hell would love to see a herd of mammoths running around in my lifetime.

@plotholedetective4166

Ай бұрын

To be clear you will never ever see mammoth running wild without a time machine. Best you'll get is some genetically engineered mutant freak abominations that resemble mammoths to some degree and have some mammoth blood but are in fact not a mammoth.

All I need now is Forrest Galante x MeatEater collab to die happy

@Perry2186

Ай бұрын

yes

I wonder I'd this technology he mentioned with the qual in Australia could be adapted to be used on trees like the American chestnut

@owencanterbury3435

Ай бұрын

This is being actively done but a team up in New York. See Crime Pays but Botany Doesn't's podcast on the American Chestnut. From several months ago but a great discussion.

@plotholedetective4166

Ай бұрын

Outlaw colossal bioscience!

this is real environmentalism.

@plotholedetective4166

Ай бұрын

No its not, they are making hybrid creatures that never existed, genetically mutated freaks that resemble failed animals.... How is that a good thing?

Doing a lot of talking! I just want to know when I can buy my ticket to Jurassic park!

Think he’s a good guy with good intentions but one day he will regret being the public relations for this project.

Just let the government regulate. It will be fine 👀🤪 F me! If we. As species are still here to look back on this. The chances we look fondly on this is very low

We need this bio technology implemented into the pacific nw spring salmon and steelhead fisheries specifically into our hatchery and broodstock programs

@plotholedetective4166

Ай бұрын

We need to outlaw this bio tech

@jasonsablan670

29 күн бұрын

@@plotholedetective4166 curious to know why you think we should.

Imagine the tags for a Wooly mammoth lol. Cmon, we’re all thinking it. Jeff Bezoz and Zuck will be front of the line.

Just let the government regulate. It will be fine 👀🤪 F me! If we. As species are still here to look back on this. The chances we look fondly on this is very low! Great way to end it. “There is a lot about nature we don’t understand. Or miss” HELLO! These guys got bigger balls than me. The roads of hell are paved with good intentions

A podcast where Steve doesn’t do 80 percent of the talking! Lol

Next lets do T-rex and sabre tooth cats. Just because you can doesn't mean you should.

What about passenger pigeons? That would be cool to have again one day!

@plotholedetective4166

Ай бұрын

Outlaw colossal bioscience!

The possibilites of this project are amazing. But I wonder what will happen if the worlds population keeps increasing at the present rate. All the de-extinction is going nowhere if there is no unihabited land left.

Algorithm defeated

You can't hunt wallabies and possums in Australia

@MrThatnativeguy

Ай бұрын

Better lock up the Dingos then

@Crispy_Coyote7

Ай бұрын

I saw people spotlight hunting wallabies on my last trip to Tassie

The habitat/ecosystem doesnt exist for this type of project, plus the moral and ethical questions are simply too large and divisive. Interesting conversation though.

Terrible not Great Janis and his body language tells the whole story

Everyone who thinks this is something like jurassic park or thinks it’s a bad ideal needs to go back to school. Y’all clearly aren’t educated enough on the science of these things. I’m willing to bet that most of you don’t even know that the mammoths habitat still exists. I’m also willing to bet that most of you don’t realize the environment and ecosystem never recovered from the extinction of the mammoth and the other megafauna. If we don’t bring back the megafauna then the ecosystem and environment they lived in will never fully 100% recover. The megafauna are a crucial part to the health and longevity of the ecosystem and environment. The mammoth would also slow the release of gas from the melting permafrost by packing the snow down and allowing the ground to freeze further down during the winter and then during the summer less permafrost melts and releases less gas. Also the tundra ecosystem isn’t supposed to be covered by trees like it is now, it’s supposed to be wide open grass land like the African savanna. All of these reasons are why we absolutely need the mammoth

@Dandymansam

Ай бұрын

you have no idea what you're talking about

Good pod just so much going on the guest gets lost in all the nonsense ... Disappointed

English is my second language, so please excuse any mistakes I make. This is the scariest podcast I have ever listened to. The fact that they want to exterminate species like that to make room for their science projects should raise red flags. What will happen when they end up messing up something, and whatever they put in the ecosystem to exterminate things jumps species?