Jon: stalks his coworkers, goes through their desks, takes photos of their houses. Jon: everyone’s avoiding me :(((

@frogonthebikeheh

Жыл бұрын

Jon's a sad, little bean now

@mello-by

10 ай бұрын

it’s worse cause they’re not just coworkers, he’s their boss

Jon: I've been acting like a creepo lately and now all my coworkers are avoiding me. They must be planning something.

@clanso7887

4 жыл бұрын

Poor dude is so paranoid

@characteroftheweek2880

4 жыл бұрын

So very paranoid

@theartistswings9810

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah. Theyre planning an intervention

@KateCantDraw

3 жыл бұрын

Mood

I like that "recluse" means person who likes to be alone, but is also a kind of spider. That guy really is a recluse.

@broblerone413

Жыл бұрын

ikr when i read the title i knew there would be that double meaning in the story

@wanamingo4961

Жыл бұрын

Brown recluse is the most famous type to my knowledge, and this guy is described several times as having a brown jacket on

@BoxofMadness

11 ай бұрын

so the recluse is a.... spider man spider man does whatever a spider can?

@cryptic_kay

9 ай бұрын

@@BoxofMadness😆

@AutumnF

4 ай бұрын

⁠I live in a place where brown recluses are one of the most common venomous spiders. Between that and the fact a girl in my 1st grade year got bitten by a black widow, I think that is only reason why I kind of fear small or medium sized spiders. I guess seeing a girl get bitten by a black widow can have its psychological effects 😅

Jon: Supplemental; everyone's avoiding me Me, loudly: WELL IF IT ISN'T THE CONSEQUENCES OF YOUR OWN ACTIONS

@jamiepearson4605

6 ай бұрын

when i heard that i said yelled BRUH

"He removed the tablecloth" I KNOW WHAT TABLE THIS IS

@elishaart4486

Жыл бұрын

“You could see the outline marking the very middle as a small square box” I KNOW WHAT BOX THIS IS

@CarbonatedMilkshake

11 ай бұрын

@@elishaart4486 "a halfway house on hilltop road" I AM SO CONFUSED BECAUSE I SUCK AT LORE

@BackToBrazil

11 ай бұрын

@@CarbonatedMilkshake THATS THE HOUSE FROM EP 8 WHERE THE CONSTRUCTION WORKER WHOSE FAMILY HAD A HISTORY OF MENTAL ILLNESS WORKED.

@MidniteSpectre

11 күн бұрын

​@@CarbonatedMilkshakeit is also the house where a priest performed an exorcism. Said priest failed at an exorcism of a woman who also went to that house, and is the same priest who later gave his statement after committing cannibalism. I forgot what episode it was.

omg the fact the web made the kids do stuff like look after themselves is sending me

@ot7biasedmashups

Жыл бұрын

They probably taste better if they keep up that body hygiene lmao

@nightcollapse

4 ай бұрын

Make them completely average and dull so no one notices when they're gone...

I am terribly worried for and about john. He has gone from sceptic to lunatic.

@clanso7887

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed.

@clanso7887

4 жыл бұрын

Text book paranoia

@pianos4095

4 жыл бұрын

Yea :(

@clayxros576

3 жыл бұрын

@@clanso7887 Just because you're paranoid, doesnt mean nobody is out to get you

@zealotoftheorchard9853

2 жыл бұрын

@@clayxros576 i didnt know Kled had a youtube

Jon: "-a halfway house on hilltop road." Me: *gasp* nOOooooOooOoooo

@BeautifulEarthJa

Жыл бұрын

Ikr!!!!

@TIGGYQUE

Жыл бұрын

I remembered only when he mentioned Agnes :)

@BackToBrazil

11 ай бұрын

@@TIGGYQUE SAME

"he removed the white table cloth that covered it" me: oh no... "it was carved in all sorts of swirling-" Me: there it is....

@mjamin9124

Жыл бұрын

bet it was a silk tablecloth

@Didartie

11 ай бұрын

​@@mjamin9124 SPIDERSILK

jon is so worried about the others going crazy that he doesn't take into account that *he* might be the one going crazy

@frogonthebikeheh

2 жыл бұрын

Let's give Jon some love💖💖💖💖

next episode they're staging jon an intervention

@clanso7887

4 жыл бұрын

Intervention?

@pianos4095

4 жыл бұрын

Please, he needs it

@clanso7887

4 жыл бұрын

(maybe it does happen)

@malaizze

Жыл бұрын

:)

@marcytelevised

Жыл бұрын

@@malaizze oh god what does that mean

The homeless "woman" in Children of the night is definitely the same thing with the spiders and the compulsion thing

@cleliea8770

4 жыл бұрын

oh and i forgot, there's the fractal table again (i think) but with the thing in the middle for once

@RelativelyBest

4 жыл бұрын

@@cleliea8770 A bit odd, since the fractal table is associated with the NotThem creatures rather than the hive types. Also interesting that the spider people specifically have mind control powers, unlike Jane Prentiss, and don't prey on people the same way the worms did.

@simonstern2572

4 жыл бұрын

@@RelativelyBest there was a Statement in seson one where a guy uprooted a tree on hill Top road and found a Box wirh an Apple in it witch wrottet and burst in to spiders as soon as he Put it out of the box

@RelativelyBest

4 жыл бұрын

@@simonstern2572 Yeah, and that makes a bit more sense now given that Reymond Fielding was a spider-hive type monster. Agnes meanwhile was one of the fire types, who apparently have some kind of feud going on with the spiders or possibly all bug monsters. Though that still doesn't explain how that damn table figures into it. Also, now that I think about it, that episode was _kinda weird_ in hindsight, because does this mean that ghosts are real in this setting? And that paranormal beings can turn into ghosts when they die? Or was that like a side-effect of whatever the heck Agnes did to Fielding?

@b-blythe6763

3 жыл бұрын

It's interesting that what the subject described here is probably how those people in the shelter felt when they were being mind controlled into leaving.

Oh gosh, it's the box with the spider apple from under the tree! Everytime I think this narrative cant get more interwoven bam here comes a new thread

@leojacobson1274

3 жыл бұрын

I was wondering where I had heard of this apple before and headed to the comments just for this. Thank you!

@mcswaggerduff8946

2 жыл бұрын

Your use of "woven" and "thread" with this particular episode is unnerving thank you

@Falcon-doing-doodles

Жыл бұрын

Threads, you say?

@juliankohler5086

Жыл бұрын

Yeah! Finally made sense. It seemed so random at the time.

@comrade_cat303

Жыл бұрын

Like the table with the hole this story is an amazing geometric formation

Can you imagine if they found out when his birthday was, and they decided to plan a surprise party? Among other things, he'd probably be like, "Wheredidyougetthatinformation!!!????!!Areyouspyinonme???????!!!!!!!"

@broblerone413

Жыл бұрын

yeah i thought that too lol

@Falcon-doing-doodles

Жыл бұрын

Turns out they already did that

Hahaaaaa "Recluse" refers to the spiders AND Jon.

@thebathroom6327

3 жыл бұрын

And Robert Fielding

@Excelsior1937

2 жыл бұрын

Lol I just realized that Raymond Fielding has brown clothing and brown hair and is reclusive. He’s LITERALLY a Brown Recluse

Oh... Spider people husks This is what Daisy got involved in for her first section 31...

@andreapaulson3331

3 жыл бұрын

....fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck

You'd think the opposite would be true, but listening to this is actually helping me get over my extreme arachnophobia, and I'm very thankful for it

@malinasworld

2 жыл бұрын

I wish that were true for my fear of the dark

@nyx2165

2 жыл бұрын

How's it progressed

@River_StGrey

2 жыл бұрын

[Spoilers] . . . . . . . . . . . . . Spiders just wanna burrow holes in reality and lead us to a better world on the highway of magnetic tape.

@tastychunks

2 жыл бұрын

The carlos vittery statement (the one with the spider that kept coming back) also helped me with my dislike of spiders. I've been more comfortable around them after listening to this podcast

@maggiem6209

Жыл бұрын

I used to watch spider handling videos and listened to stuff like this when I was trying to get over my arachnophobia. Happy to say that I can look at and interact with most spiders now. I still can't touch them, except for really uniquely brave days and it's usually only jumping spiders. But it's much more manageable now. It's pretty common for me to throw them outside now instead of stepping on them.

Now there is a girl who turned from creepy wiredo to a hero And now remembering her death from that episode feels like a scary statement of something big to happen

@lonewaffle231

Жыл бұрын

What are you talking about? Also plase no spoilers

@imchoosingnottoexist6894

Жыл бұрын

Looking back at this comment is so funny to me. Because this entire storyline was based around how anticlimactic everything was, and how we only learn what happened after the fact from people who were so invested in it they can't give an objective statement

@TIGGYQUE

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, it seemed that she somehow 'blessed' him with her kiss and warded him from being caught in Raymond's web, but it seems to me that she mostly wanted to mess with Raymond. I guess heat is more powerful than spiders

@GarethOfByzantium

8 ай бұрын

@@TIGGYQUE Even so, she saved Ronald’s life.

Agnes was a Good Girl. Now I feel bad for being suspish when she showed up the first time :( Things can still change tho

@sock1478

4 жыл бұрын

Same. I thought she was the "villain" in the story first story she came up in but I guess theres always two sides of a story 🤷‍♀️

@b-blythe6763

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, i was really not expecting to like her going into this XD I mean, she might still be up to some bad shit but she did save this kid, and was apparently living at the house just to mess with Raymond, who up until that point only dealt with mind controlled youth. Even if she hadn't been some kind of flame witch, just being immune to mind control probably make her too much for him.

@Child_of_Fae

3 жыл бұрын

@@sock1478 oh yeah, me too. Should take a lesson and don't judge to quickly ...

@GarethOfByzantium

8 ай бұрын

Don’t assume she actually has good intentions, just not AS BAD as she seemed.

@BriarBeeBenson

3 ай бұрын

This! I’m a first time listener and I genuinely thought Agnes was a malicious entity when she was actually trying to help the kids who were there? Ugh I feel bad for misjudging her, I hope Agnes ended up okay in the end. I hope Raymond Fielding didn’t do anything evil to her 😞

Could it have been the kiss of Agnes that spared him and counteracted the mystical pull>?

@inudude15

6 жыл бұрын

Julian 3 I wont spoil it with how but yes it was

@user-bu4rf6kk5d

5 жыл бұрын

The flame burns the web, as it were.

@oggser8050

4 жыл бұрын

i havent gotten past this episode but thats what i got too!! combined with the fact that raymond seemed scared of agnes and the fact that agnes kissed ronald on the cheek (which is what started burning) i think that agnes is basically the only reason that ronald got out alive

@TransilvanianHunger1334

4 жыл бұрын

Well yeah, that was pretty obvious. She casted a "spell" on him I think. The burning feeling came from the kiss.

@thirun779

2 жыл бұрын

Awww so sweet. I though she was a creepo eating people.

The hilltop road one is an easy connection but that swirly table. Isn't that the same one from Season 1? With the woman who was watching her neighbour, who wrote in the journals obsessively, only for him to be 'replaced'?

@clanso7887

4 жыл бұрын

Yes it's the spider table. The one Saha likes so much and the one that turned Gareth from Across the street into not-Gareth ?

@clanso7887

4 жыл бұрын

It's the spider table with the hole in the middle

@NikolaiHewitt

4 жыл бұрын

@@clanso7887 I knew it was. I've just got to the point in S3 where literally everything is connected in the series and the table didn't seem to be mentioned in any comment sections so I wondered if I was right or if I was overanalysing

@clanso7887

4 жыл бұрын

I don't thinks it's possible to overanalyze this series 😂

@NikolaiHewitt

4 жыл бұрын

@@clanso7887 Very good point 😂

Interesting. The spider people appear similar to Jane Prentiss/the flesh hive worms, but between this and the second vampire hunter episode, it seems they specifically have mind-control powers and don't prey on people the same way.

@-S.L.

2 жыл бұрын

They seem more like scared victims who just want to be left alone than Jane did.

@RelativelyBest

2 жыл бұрын

@@-S.L. Well, no spoilers, but what with how it turns out these creatures actually work... Let's just say that would be very ironic.

@-S.L.

2 жыл бұрын

@@RelativelyBest Oh boy, I am definitely in for an interesting ride lol

@Badficwriter

3 ай бұрын

@@-S.L. Considering they appeared to be mind-controlling kids to become husks for millions of tiny spiders after the humans ate the fresh green apple, their benevolence is questionable. Its strange though, those bodies in the basement were still there after months? But Sasha looked at the table and was replaced all at once.

Can we get this man a therapist or intervention!

@pianos4095

4 жыл бұрын

Please

@L.clayton.

3 жыл бұрын

Amen. I swear he's just gone bonkers insane

@pyrosianheir

3 жыл бұрын

Why not both?

@boobean1444

2 жыл бұрын

Oh god p l e a s e

The episode: Oh yeah, there was this wooden table or something. Me: Uh-oh (: So... Did Agnes save him? From the story told in "Burned Out" I thought she was the bad guy, not Raymond. Weird. I want to know more.

9 ай бұрын

I always thought they working together, that both were up to no good. But now... it seems like she wasn't as bad as I thought...

@GarethOfByzantium

8 ай бұрын

That’s called a misdirect.

@paintingapocalypse7023

4 ай бұрын

Maybe by scaring the construction workers she was trying to stop them from rebuilding house in that place

@Badficwriter

3 ай бұрын

@@paintingapocalypse7023 OMG I thought Agnes was killed by destroying the tree and the box, but I'm starting to think that girl who died at the same moment was actually Ray Fielding in a new body, not Agnes at all.

I wonder if the girls' kiss on the cheek is what later burned his cheek and saved him

@birdbrainiac

3 жыл бұрын

I didnt realise that till reading the comments, but yes, I think so too now.

"I feel like they're planning something" yeah, john, an intervention

I love all the references to other episodes

@remingtonwright6796

4 жыл бұрын

There's a reason for them, I'm told

So... Agnes interfering with Raymond Fieldings halfway house in such a seemingly sinister way from the view of the neighbours was actually the most benevolent act taking place in that house, huh? She could overpower his... Compulsion ability and even gifted it to at least one of the other kids so that they wouldn't meet the same fate as all the others before them. Considering the suspicious part of the story of how things changed when she came was that the house slowly emptied out, she may have done the same for all her housemates, killing Raymond slowly...

@GarethOfByzantium

8 ай бұрын

Looks like it.

@Alsarnia

7 ай бұрын

Dang, it's so crazy how different viewpoints can establish a story. From ep 8 it sounds like Agnes was killing off everyone from hilltop house, but it sounds like, from this account, that she saved at least one of them. I love this series so GOSH DANG MUCH

1. Man I didn't know about THIS episode of the promised Neverland 2. That kid was in like on of the first episodes, I remember drawing her 3. Is that the GOD DARN TABLE AGAIN ?

@lablabs2613

Жыл бұрын

Haha I also draw the episodes as a listen :)

@ot7biasedmashups

Жыл бұрын

Fr lmao as soon as I heard about them "leaving" when they turn 18 I knew they absolutely got eaten. I didn't by what tho

@elishaart4486

Жыл бұрын

@@ot7biasedmashups my thoughts exactly

I can't believe I didn't figure out that Agnes's kiss on the cheek is why the dude's cheek hurt and he ultimately survived until the very end of the episode lol

This episode gives me The Promised Neverland vibes

@theprideling

3 жыл бұрын

YES thank you!

@OpussumEatsDirt

3 жыл бұрын

i was looking for a comment like this dude i feel the same

@k0rny672

3 жыл бұрын

I thought I was the only one who thought the same

@justeundonut-moi.7979

3 жыл бұрын

What's the promised Neverland ?

@TearXstar

3 жыл бұрын

@@justeundonut-moi.7979 it's an anime about human children in an orphanage being raised as farm meat for monsters. first season is really great, second season falls off since it stopped following the manga.

My mind went immediately from 'she was a bit spooky-' to 'JOE SPOOKYYY~~~'

Petition to please just burn the stupid table already Edit: NEVERMIND NEVERMIND PLEASE LEAVE THE TABLE JON UHHHH

@TheNitpickChick

3 жыл бұрын

Lol 😆

@CapitanaGabs

3 жыл бұрын

First-time listener here. Now I'm scared :D

Well, Agnes might've saved him but she's still weird...?? The burning sensation in his cheek reminds me of the lightless flame...

@ot7biasedmashups

Жыл бұрын

True but then again what would have saved him except for pain. Also I guess she has fire powers of sorts which is good against the spiders and worms

am I the only one who thinks Jon's "paranoia" is 100 percent valid and justified?

@trin-is-late

Жыл бұрын

You are not. There are plot reasons for it, too.

@amphibiland7315

Жыл бұрын

Yes

"theyre planing something" MY BROTHER IN CHRIST YOU STALKED THEM

How nice of Agnes.

@hauntedteethcupboard

3 жыл бұрын

We stan a helpful queen

@bookfanatic8329

3 жыл бұрын

@@hauntedteethcupboard lol

Jon: I am acting very paranoid and creepy to my coworkers and their avoiding me. They must be planning against me

"seeing pens sign my life between stages without holding any of them myself" is so dead on to the feeling, i appreciate the writing

idk if they were trying to imply this, but the fact that most of these facilities in the area seem to be missing paperwork makes me worried that they were all spider host factories or something similar. ;-;

@j.schuette2575

2 жыл бұрын

I thougt exactly the same thing! Yeah I'm not convinced either that the similarity means it's all innocent reasons.

Im only at 9:20 and gotta say, I am so so sure that this is the same damn table connected to Not-Graham, and the box in the centre is the one the builder guy in Burn Out found after uprooting the tree. The box and the table are a set, I'm calling it

@vaishaliwarrier6610

4 жыл бұрын

Update: I KNEW IT!!!

It's interesting hearing about the table from in Across the Stree and how it originated here on Hilltop road. And it's interesting how in Burned Out, when we first hear about Hill Top Road, Raymond is portrayed as this very kind man who everyone loved and Agnus is this creepy child who people blame for disappearances. Now in this episode, Agnus gives Ronald a kiss on the cheek before he leaves the house and then later before he goes to eat the apple his cheek erupted in pain. I don't think this is a coincidence. I think that Agnus's kiss on the cheek somehow protected Ronald. That the kiss stopped him from eating the apple and if he had eaten it he would have ended up like the others. That could be why Raymond seemed scared of her. He needed the children for something, breeding from the sounds of it, and using troublesome kids by running a halfway house makes sense. People don't really care if a troublesome kid goes missing. And if he fills out the paperwork saying they're no longer in his care and then they go missing after that? Well, it can't be pinned back to him if anyone does investigate. As Raymond's body was the only one found in the house after it burned, I think that Raymond might have been whatever was causing the problems experienced in Burned Out. Especially as Ivo says he felt like he was cooking while in the house. Agnus may have in a way lead Ivo to the tree so he would get rid of the tree. I wonder if she may have been the one who removed the box from the table and put it under the tree, maybe trying to prevent Raymond from using the table to trap more children in his web. And maybe that's why children eventually stopped coming to the halfway house. Without the missing piece of the table and with Agnus there Raymond couldn't control them how he wanted and couldn't lead them down to the basement. Still doesn't explain how the table ended up in Graham's place or how exactly it's connected to no-Graham and not-Sasha, though it does appear to be connected.

@daija9027

9 ай бұрын

This has to be the best description I have come across ever in the entire time I’ve been on the Magnus Archive playlist. Thank you!!!!

@Badficwriter

3 ай бұрын

This implies that Agnes and Raymond were fighting over the location even long after neither of them lived there..O_o

so somewhere around 1960s the swirly table with the box in the middle was in the hill top road house (note: raymond probably somehow uses the table even though i do not know what for, because the spider people seem to have some mind control powers,,,) then in 1975 the house burns down, agnes did probably something with the table and only the box with the apple insade of it remains in the tree next to the house somewhere between that time the table finds its way to the graham folger and it 2005 the not!graham probably gets rid of the table in 2006 ivo lensik torns the tree down and smash the box that was insade it with the crowbar, the same day agnes montague hangs herself and is found with right human hand tied by chain to her waist in 2016 breechers and hope moving company gives the table to the magnus institute

@dendakrmelova1201

4 жыл бұрын

i just,,,can't they just burn the table plEasE

@-S.L.

2 жыл бұрын

Oh god, so the Raymond man was mind-controlling the children into going to the half-way house.

literally what did jon expect if he stalks his coworkers smh also, it kind of seems like agnes saved this guy in the end, if his face was burning and she kissed his cheek before, plus the house burned down later. maybe she has some kind of fire powers or something and isnt that evil? i also think this is proof that the box from under the tree belongs to graham's swirly table

I find it funny that the comments sections of the season 2 uploads are almost entirely discussing the supplementals and rarely the case itself

So this one links the burn out, (MA8) the priest of confession (19) and also, probably to the shape in children of the night (56)

@nanahuatli2144

4 жыл бұрын

There's some echoes of Arachnophobia too, for obvious reasons.

@Darkrose517

3 жыл бұрын

Also, the kitchen table sounds like the table in 'Across the Street' (M3).

@neroquin

3 жыл бұрын

Might be related to basiras partner, the one who got sectioned. Also had something about spider husks

@juliankohler5086

Жыл бұрын

What priest?

John: everyone’s avoiding me Me: OH MY GOD I WANNA HUG HIM. HES INSANE BUT I WANNA HUG HIM.

Also Jon's paranoia it's clearly ill-founded and not healthy but the worst thing is that it is completly TRUE. He DOES have an assistant with dubious intentions after all. It's so funny to me

Neat detail I found in this episode that may or may not be intentional: a recluse, while being a word for people who don't get out much, is also a type of spider, specifically a brown recluse, which are very venomous and also brown, as the name suggests

@fevre_dream8542

Жыл бұрын

There are a couple different recluse spiders but yes. Difference is, the recluse spiders are generally quite shy and hesitant to bite, and generally well behaved critters. Unlike good old Mr Fielding here.

"I feel like they're planning something" Yea, probably an intervention

Maybe Agnes was some sort of protector? When she came to the house Raymond stopped bringing childrens, his plans didn't worked with her there? And what if when that guy cut the tree and found that apple, he was sort of breaking some kind of protective spell and "releasing" whatever that evil is

So we are likely to see the dude from aracnophobia again, right? I mean, given that the "Hive" monstres seem to act like parasite and corrupt as many people as possible, and the spider hive starts by cocconing the victims, it seems logical than the dude will be/was at one point on the road to infection... Also, John, please, darling, get some sleep, and get a therapist for your paranoia

@annebee4577

4 жыл бұрын

Doubt it, since he did die, presumably by spiders

@itstictac2825

4 жыл бұрын

@@annebee4577 Yeah, that's true ! But didn't the spider thingy "habit" completely empy corpse? Trevor told in his statement that the girl he attacked was hollow, expect a few cobwebs. I assumed it would be the same for the dude ; got attacked by spiders, wrapped tightly, died, and now they're like "working" on gettinf rid of his insides before "habiting" him. Don't know if it makes sens though

@williamdavis671

3 жыл бұрын

@@itstictac2825 spoiler warning Who ever said spiders and rot were the same thing?

@tmaxgo6696

3 жыл бұрын

@@williamdavis671 the Web and Corruption. Enemies? Relatives? Unrelated?

@williamdavis671

3 жыл бұрын

@@tmaxgo6696 spoilers The web is probably the most complex fear by far, as it is the only one that is sentient. Its relationship with the others is situational for its own benefit

[CLICK] ARCHIVIST Statement of Ronald Sinclair, regarding his years spent in a teenage halfway house on Hill Top Road, Oxford. Original statement given November 29th, 2005. Audio recording by Jonathan Sims, Head Archivist of the Magnus Institute, London. Statement begins. ARCHIVIST (STATEMENT) I should have come in to tell you people about this before, really. I heard about your institute back in the 80s, and I thought, “should I tell them?” But I didn’t. Thought you’d be all about old castles and ancient cairns, not have any time for weird goings-on in a suburban house in Oxford. And you’re academics as well so probably have more rigorous standards than one crackpot’s horror story. Still, I saw last week that they were planning to build on that land again. Another house where the old Fielding place used to be. I don’t know, it’s not like you’d have any power to stop the construction, but I just… I needed to tell someone about it. And you were less likely to throw me out on my ear than the Planning Department of Oxford City Council. You see, I lived with Raymond Fielding for almost three years, and believe me when I say that there is nothing good that can come from disturbing that dreadful place. I was a bad kid. I’ve cleaned up my act in the 40-odd years since, but back then I was a little thug. Wasn’t entirely my fault - I came from a bad family. My father left before I was born, and I’m not sure how much you know about single motherhood in the late 40s, but it was clearly hard enough that my mother ended up with a serious alcohol problem. I won’t go into the gory details of my childhood, but let’s just say it’s no surprise I was out of school and in the system before my 13th birthday. They tried a few places to set me straight. Back then these sort of places weren’t quite as enlightened, and the only life lesson I learned worth a damn was how to take a beating. Finally, when I was 15, after the justice system was finished with me for the third time, I was given the chance to reenter society, and offered a place at a halfway house on Hill Top Road. It’s weird. I’ve tried to get information on it so many times in the years since, but there’s nothing there. It’s like it never existed. I mean, this was a long way pre-digital, and files got lost plenty, but it still bothers me. The most traumatic thing that ever happened to me, and as far as any official record is concerned, I couldn’t have even been there. Raymond Fielding was younger than I expected. Every other place, the people in charge had been old, leathery moralists with scowls on their faces and calluses on their knuckles. A lot of ex-military types who would lecture for hours on how their wasted life had been saved by the discipline of the army, and did their best to impose it on us. Ray, as he insisted we call him, was different. He couldn’t have been much older than 30, and he let his brown hair grow long - not by today’s standards, I suppose, but it would have sent any of the crew-cut authoritarians into a red-faced rage. He was friendly and approachable, but didn’t seem like he was trying to be our friend. He was easygoing and smiled a lot. But there was something in his eyes that made me wary of trying to take advantage of him. I didn’t like him from the start. The other adults I’d met on my journey through delinquency had been awful, and they’d run the spectrum from drippy, patronizing do-gooders to abusive thugs, but I’d always known. I would know what they were and where I stood with them. Ray was a mystery, and that unsettled me. Still, he wasn’t too strict with our comings and goings, and the other kids staying there seemed all right. The one thing that surprised me was how rare it was to see anyone come back. Most other halfway houses I’d stayed in, you always had some of the older residents, those who had fallen into even worse criminal company, coming back occasionally, usually to sell drugs or do some recruiting. Amphetamines were the thing back in the early 60s, so I was surprised when I moved into Hill Top Road and there wasn’t a purple Heart or a black bomber to be found. It didn’t seem like any alumni of Ray’s little family came back for a visit. At the time, I just assumed it was a pretty nice neighborhood, so probably wasn’t the sort of place my kind - as I thought of it then - made a habit of visiting. I wasn’t wrong. The local residents hated us. We never really got into any proper trouble, but the sort of glares we got just for smoking on the street made me want to break a window sometimes. I never did, though. I’m… not quite sure why I didn’t. To be honest, before I met Ray, I would have. There were plenty of broken windows in my past. There was something about living there, though, that dulled the urge. My memories of a lot of my time there are, well, not exactly foggy, but feel almost like I’m watching someone else’s memories. I remember that it sometimes felt like I’d do things without actually deciding to do them. Like it was just muscle memory moving me, or a string gently guiding me. It was never bad or dangerous stuff, just… things I wouldn’t normally have done, like brushing my teeth. I’m glad for it now I’ve passed 60, and teeth have stopped being something I take for granted. But at 15 the thought never even crossed my mind. But when I lived on Hill Top Road, I cleaned them every night, up and down and side to side, my arm moving like I didn’t even need to think about it. The other kids living there were the same. At least, I think they were. I remember them being kind of dull - not that they were boring, exactly; we’d spend time together, and smoke and play games and the like. But there was something about them. As though there were some things that they said and did without anything behind them. Occasionally, there’d be flashes of something. Like the time me and Dick Barrowdale snuck out after dark and set Mr. Hainsley’s bins on fire. But mostly they were quiet, almost placid. I’m sure they’d have said the same things about me, but at the time, nothing seemed amiss. I did what I did because it was what I was supposed to do. It never struck me to question it. I’m not sure I really recognize who I became while living at that house. I did take up reading, though. There was a shop down in Kerry that kept a bucket of old pulp magazines marked down to 6 pence because they weren’t the latest issue. I used to spend whatever money I had down there, and then I’d sit under the tree in the back garden and read them cover to cover, over and over again. They were daft, really, but I loved them. In the summer, with the leaves giving you just enough shade to keep cool, I’d say I was happier than I’d ever been before then. For the most part, Ray seemed content to stay out of our hair and leave us to our own devices. He had his own study in the basement, where he spent almost all his time, and usually trusted one of us to go to the grocer’s for food and sundries. Aside from church, which he made us attend with him every Sunday, he rarely went out at all. Occasionally, one of the other residents of the neighborhood would overcome their distaste for us long enough to ask how Ray was keeping, and whether he was well. I gradually got the sense that, with the exception of the teenagers staying at his house, Raymond Fielding was something of a recluse. A well-liked recluse, certainly, but to see him leave the house on any day other than a Sunday was quite a remarkable thing. Aside from church, there was one other regular activity that he always insisted we take part in. We generally ate our meals in the dining room - which was a bit cramped sometimes, as, when full, there were eight of us in the house aside from Ray, and the table was barely big enough. On Sunday evenings, however, we’d all gather for the evening meal, and before we sat down to eat, he would remove the bright white tablecloth that covered it, and we’d gather around the dark wood. I remember it was carved in all sorts of strange swirling designs and patterns. It felt like if you picked a line, any line, you could follow it through to the center, to some deep truth, if only your eye could keep track of the strands that had caught it. The center of the table looked, at first, like it was simply part of the wooden top, but if you looked closely, as I did so often, you could see an outline marking the very middle as a small, square box, carved with patterns just like the ones that laced their way over the rest of the table. I don’t remember how long we sat around the table those evenings, nor do I have any memory of what we might have eaten. So I passed a couple of years in relative peace. I actually studied, stayed mostly out of trouble, and, as my 18th birthday approached, it looked like I might be able to find someone to teach me a decent trade. At that point, I was the oldest there by a few months, the others having left the house as they each turned 18 in turn. A suited man would come around - though, rarely the same one twice - Ray would sign some papers, and my former house sibling would head out the door and into the wide world. I didn’t see them after that, but at the time I didn’t really think anything of it. I assumed they were too busy trying to survive in a world that I had always considered deeply hostile.

@petraivan6778

4 жыл бұрын

Agnes came to the house two months before my birthday, in the middle of winter. Ray had never mentioned her, never held one of his little meetings to introduce her. She was just suddenly in the house one day, and no one really thought to question it. She was younger than the other kids, maybe ten or eleven years old. Didn’t talk much. She had a small, sharp face, and long brown hair, always braided into two tight pigtails, which she would twirl around her fingers whenever you tried to talk to her. I’ll admit, she was a bit spooky, looking back on it, but to be honest at the time I never really questioned it, the same way I never really questioned any of it. She never came to church, though. Never sat around the dinner table when it was uncovered. Whenever Ray came in the room and she was in there, he would often just turn around and leave. And once, I could have sworn that he looked at her with something in his eyes that, even in my dull state, I recognized as fear. I was so focused on my upcoming emancipation that I didn’t pay much attention to these developments, and I can’t tell you much more about Agnes, or what she did with her time in the house. All I know is that, when the man from the Children’s Committee came with the papers for Ray to sign, she was standing at the bottom of the stairs, watching me with an expression that looked almost playful. Ray signed the documents to remand me fully back to state custody. The age of majority back then was twenty-one, but from eighteen I was expected to be finding work and accommodation on my own. It was all a bit surreal, watching pens sign my life into its different stages without holding any of them myself. As the man in the suit told me to follow him in a clipped BBC accent, Agnes walked over, and gestured for me to lean down and listen to her. I did so, but instead of a conspiratorial whisper, she just gave me a quick kiss on the cheek, then ran off down the hall. I stood there for a moment, confused, before my temporary guardian once again instructed me to follow him. I did so, and the cold air of the outside hit me like a slap across the face. We walked for a few minutes to the end of the road, and I felt as though my meager suitcase was almost frozen to my hand. He told me to wait there while he brought his car around, then disappeared down a side street. I stood there as the bitter wind cut through my thin coat. The sun was out, but it didn’t do much to soften the sharpness of the February air as I waited. Then, without warning, I wasn’t waiting anymore. I had turned around, put down my suitcase, and started walking back toward Raymond Fielding’s house. I didn’t want to go back. I had no reason to go back, but I had apparently decided to, anyway, because I knew that’s where I was going. After two and a half years, I was rather used to this feeling, but there was something else there this time. Something in the back of my mind, a frantic, scuttling terror. It didn’t do any good, though. I was returning to Hill Top Road, no matter what I might feel about it. Choice didn’t even come into it. The door was unlocked when I returned, and the house was quiet. My eyes darted around, looking for anyone who might be able to tell me what was going on, why the fine threads that pulled me through my life had dragged me back here. But I was alone. I walked over to the door that led down into the basement, into Ray’s study, and I was suddenly struck by the realization that nobody other than him had ever gone inside. At least, not to my knowledge. Nonetheless, I reached up and turned the handle, twisted silently, and the door swung open, revealing a set of stairs leading down. Lightbulbs in spherical lampshades lit the way, and the thought struck me that, given how much time Ray spent down here, it was surprising how many cobwebs there were. They covered every corner, and lightly coated part of the walls. As I headed down the stairs, closing the door behind me, I saw even more, and came to the unsettling realization that what covered the bare bulbs were not in fact lampshades, but were instead thick clumps of cobweb. The sight that greeted me when I finally reached the bottom of the stairs was about as far from what I had expected as it could possibly have been. Rather than a study filled with books, papers, desks, or the like, the room was large, and almost empty. The walls and ceiling were bare earth, and it looked more like a burrow than anything else. In the center of the room stood that strange hypnotic table, though how he had gotten the heavy wooden thing down here was beyond me. The whole place was covered with a thick gossamer of spider’s web, and in the thick clumps around the edges of the chamber I saw shapes I recognised. Doris Hardy. Dick Barrowdale. Greg Montgomery. The older ones who had left the house before I had. They lay still now, wrapped in their sticky cocoons. Their bodies seemed warped and bloated in a way I didn’t recognize. But that’s only because at that point in my life, I had never before seen a spider egg sac. In the chair sat Raymond Fielding. He looked the same as ever, that placid, unreadable smile still on his face. His brown leather coat seemed to shift around his body. The texture in the dim light seemed more like coarse fur. He didn’t say anything, just watched as I continued to make my way towards the table. For all the terror strangling my heart at that moment at the discovery of the grotesque fate of my friends, I could still feel the bland, uncaring expression on my face, and found myself stood in front of the table as though nothing whatsoever was wrong. I reached over and pulled the wooden square from the center of the table. On its own, it appeared to be a small wooden box, and the lid opened smoothly, as my hands moved in a practiced motion. Inside was an apple, green and fresh and still wet with morning dew. I knew I was going to eat it. I could feel tears desperately trying to push themselves out of my eyes, but I instead decided not to cry. I placed the box down on the table, reached over, and picked up the apple. All at once, my cheek erupted in pain. It was like someone had pressed a hot branding iron into my face, and I could swear that I heard the flesh sizzle as I let out a scream and fell to my knees. I raised my hands to my face and realized in that moment two very important things. The first is that my face seemed to be untouched; I could feel no injury or burn. The second was that raising my hand had been a truly voluntary act. I had willed it myself, and whatever power had been gripping me, tugging me into its web, I was free of it. I looked at Raymond Fielding, whose face finally had a real expression on it - one of confusion and anger. As he stood up, I saw small, twitching shapes tumbling out of his jacket, and I ran. I ran up those stairs, out the door, and away into the night. I didn’t look back, and to this day, I pray every night that the others down in the basement were already dead. That’s it, really. Within two hours, I was out of Oxford, on the first train I could jump onto. I jumped off at Birmingham to avoid a ticket inspector. And that’s where I spent the next several years. Given my start in life, I’ve done very well for myself. I now have comfort, education, and money. I try to think that I’ve left my past behind, but that sort of denial doesn’t help me sleep. I only had my first truly restful night since that day after reading about the fire that burned the house to the ground. But now they’re building there. They’re breaking ground that should be left burned and empty. And I’ve started to dream again. ARCHIVIST Statement ends. Mr. Sinclair was not exaggerating when he described the difficulties of tracking down information on any youth halfway house in Hill Top Road. Or Raymond Fielding more generally. While I am naturally inclined to suspect conspiracy, Martin informs me that the nature of the gaps look like lost or damaged files. There are whole swathes of records missing from that period, not only related to Fielding, but many other similar institutions in the area. There’s no attempt to cover up or redirect it, either. It just looks like whichever cabinet housed those records got lost or damaged in the years since. I have done my best to prevent Martin reading this statement in too much detail. I have no interest in having another argument about spiders. In fact, after reading this statement, I have no interest in thinking about spiders any more than is professionally required. It raises further questions about the relationship between Raymond Fielding and this Agnes. I can only hope some answers lie elsewhere in the Archives. I wouldn’t be surprised. Between Ronald Sinclair, Ivo Lensik, and Father Burroughs, it appears there’s still much to learn about Hill Top Road. End recording. [CLICK] [CLICK] ARCHIVIST Supplemental. Everyone’s avoiding me. They’ve taken to working farther away from me than normal, and when I call them for any reason, they’re always keen to leave as soon as possible. They share furtive glances when they think I’m not looking. I don’t like it. I feel like they’re planning something. End supplemental. [CLICK]

@islaridland

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you !!!!:33

@petraivan6778

3 жыл бұрын

😁

@bonniecornelius3836

3 жыл бұрын

Petra Iván thank youu

@petraivan6778

3 жыл бұрын

You're welcome :)

relistening to this episode made me realize the image of the table in my head has been like. totally wrong. whenever I thought about it I imagined to being a coffee table but if they used it as a dinner table it had to have been at least a little bit bigger than that

Aaaaw well Agnes is actually kinda cute in the end, with her protective fire kisses and all

Theyre planning an intervention to tell john he needs to go to therapy

This entire time, we thought Agnes was evil and Raymond was good but it was the opposite. Jon has no idea his coworkers are worried about him. :(

@thestranger4894

Жыл бұрын

Never saw Agnes as evil. Just felt bad for her because she was clearly trying to hide something big and her being like 10 just makes it more sad

@midnights2631

Жыл бұрын

@@thestranger4894 It gets more sad finding out more of her story

@GarethOfByzantium

6 ай бұрын

Well, innocent.

Watch it be that they are trying not to ruin a surprise for his birthday or something

OH! It all makes sense now! The pattern on the table, it was first referred to as spiraling and such which made me think it was associated with whatever "power" that Michael fellow, the hallways beyond the impossible door and the entity in the vase are of. And as such, I believed the Not-Entity belonged to those as well. But Not-Sasha only recently said that the pattern was rather of a web which with this story makes more sense. So now I think its true shape from Episode 2 fits more the ddescriptions of those Strangers and Others and the Anatomy Students, all those uncanny, barely human things. But that's not the only thing! At first I was confused why there were spiders in the apple inside the box that belonged to the Spiral Table and why destroying that seemed to kill the Fire-aligned Agnes. But now we know that eating the apple made you into one of the Recluse's egg-sacks because of all the spiders already in the apple! And Agnes seemed to have been fighting the Recluse, perhaps as two agents of different powers like we have heard before with the Sarah-Skin-Wearer, Gersd and the Burnt Man and the possessed priest. Given how Mr. Fielding disappeared, the house burnt down, he later appeared as a burnt ghost and his scorched hand was with Agnes, I'd say she won! But perhaps destroying the scorched tree or maybe breaking the box somehow gave the Recluse a secind wind and that was what killed Agnes.

19:30 No Jon. They're just upset that you're losing your marbles.

So this is about the house on the hilltop where the guy messed with the box that turned into spiders (I can't quite remember, so please correct me if I'm wrong) But I think this is involved with the woman who was hollow and turned into spiders when the vampire hunter confronted her with the shelters. The table might've been the best way to keep all of the unruly kids in line, it seems as if this is the nicest way the table has been used so far, mostly just to keep the kids taking care of themselves while Raymond avoided them.

@fauxclaws

11 ай бұрын

well nicest way except for the part where he turns some of them into spider sacks, but hey you gotta break a few eggs to make an omelet (ba dum tss)

so it's spiders AND not-them? ohhh am I the only one who thinks it's too much power for one table? spooky

@ateawithfreak8681

4 жыл бұрын

it's becoming something like The Chair from the critical role campaign 2 :)

@pyrosianheir

3 жыл бұрын

@@ateawithfreak8681 Okay, but hear me out about the chair. (not really; I got nothing).

@ateawithfreak8681

3 жыл бұрын

@@pyrosianheir it's The Chair with the capitals pls show some respect

Jon: I.. feel like they are planning something... *very dramatic* The planning his coworkers are doing in question: SUPRISE BIRTHDAY PARTY 🥳🥳🥳🥳 WOOO HURRAH JON NOW PLEASE STOP STALKING US!! :D

jon: so i started stalking my coworkers and now they're avoiding me???? pretty sure that means i should stalk them more

SPOILERS Awww, I just find it so touching that Agnes saved the guy's life, and with a kiss of all things. Baby Agnes I love you.

Man, I am dying of curiosity as to what the exact connection is between that damned table and the... “changelings” (for lack of a better word) that are currently impersonating Sasha and Graham. And I can’t help but wonder what that weird box holding the spider-filled apples has to do with it all.

Agnes was such a good person! Even though she was an avatar of the lightless flame she still saved this guy from the web and then burnt down the webs mansion so it couldn't hurt any more people!

Every time there's new info about the Hill Top Road I'm just like: ok so that's the evil one (person) right? Wait-- what!?

I need to go there, I never brush my teeth. I cant remember the last time I did-

the fact that he didn't mention the table, which is obviously the same one who stands among their artefacts, bothers me very much

oh, this is my favorite one thus far. fuck me, the bland expressions? the thread guiding your movements, your thoughts, your desires? fuckkkk thattttt. plus all the connections are just amazing

This episode might have the best pun title

I live how the monsters have beef with eachother

"I think they're planning something." Yeah an intervention probably lmao

first time listener, i feel like Jon's encounter with Micheal or maybe with the increase of spiders may be what's making him so paranoid and mad. Not sure if its more of the spiders or the spiral tho

Yes, they're planning to send you to friggin therapy omg :'o

My theory from this episode and what we know so far: This one isn't an easy one, 'cause we have so much data that cancel each other out? When we first heard about the house, we thought agnes was the bad one. Now, it seems that both her and raymond were part of supernatural entities. Agnes of the fireless flame cult, raymond of the spiders entity. Maybe agnes came to the house saying she was working with the spiders but in the end wanted to destroy them. Now we know, as not!sasha already said, the table is actually a web. A way to enter other people's minds and control them. The spiders have hypnotic powers, but the table was used to further that hypnosis in their subcouncious, so that the spiders would control their victims even after they left their presence (like how the witness instead of waiting for the car turned around to come back to the house). So, the spiders are not good, they just sometimes happen to have a goal that, by working with our heroes, can be accomplished. But they're still something bad i guess. Now, let's get it from the start. The table that graham found is that same table, and the hole inside is for the box with the apple full of spiders. So maybe they use the apple in order to take those small spiders inside the victims and make them the skins in which the spiders resign (since reynold was found dead, i don't think he was a skin full of spiders but was indeed a normal-ish body inside). Agnes went to that house when our witness was already the oldest child. So he was the first she "saved", although it wasn't from the bottom of her heart but instead a way to mess with the spiders' plans (she had a playfull look on her face). Afterwards, because of her messing with their plans, the spiders stopped getting any new kids in that house 'cause she wouldn't let them do with them what they wanted to do. In the end, agnes killed reynold for the fireless flame's own reasons, took the box and put it below or in the tree (i don't remember), trapping those spiders in the apple in there, and took reynold's hand with her in order, maybe, to have some control over him or the house? The spider entity wanted that box to be free, so it appeared as reynold, trying to make the construction worker maybe pay attention to the tree? Agnes/the fire entity was notified about it (perhaps by casting a spell in reynold's hand?) and burned him, and also made the witness feel the burning any time he was alone in a room, probably signs that the place was watched by the fire entity. When the priest went in the house and the worker went outside, we have: a) the priest who felt the burning but notified the fire entity that he was already marked, meaning he already belonged to another entity and b) the worker felt very angry to the tree and just felt like bringing it down, which makes me think of the hypnotic powers of the spiders. Once he rooted out the tree, the box was there and the spiders inside were once again free, while at the same time agnes with reynold's hand was found hanged. I believe she was actually killed by the spiders entity, something like she finally lost that battle so that was her consequences, or she was made from the fire entity to kill herself 'cause she failed at her mission. From this episode we also learn a few things about the episode with the "ghost" spider: a person who didn't want to be near a spider was starting to, without thinking or with feeling like he was pulled by a string, killing that spider again and again. So i'm thinking he was meant to be a victim like the boys in this house, but without the table, the spider had to hypnotise him slowly by appearing in front of him instead of having him look at a design. In the end, they did to him what they did to the boys, but he was found finally because of the smell, maybe the spiders' plans were stopped then? We also have the sectioned cop's partner having a case with spider people husks(?), though we don't know much about it, but it makes us think that the spiders' plans of doing this process haven't stopped yet, so there is a reason for doing that. I don't know yet if the spiders and the not-people are part of the same entity or not. Maybe they are, and that limb creature that replaced graham was a supernatural manifestation of the spider entity. Or maybe they're differemt entities, who had the same target and were racing/fighting who would get to him first. Or maybe graham getting the table was just random and the spider entity wasn't interested in him but the not-one was. I'm mostly going for the thought of the spider and the not-people entity to be different, 'cause otherwise, in graham's change, there would be some spider web combs to be found from the police, right? And he was different in appearance, even his hair, we don't have any evidence yet that the spiders can do something like that. The spiders are against the worms, that much we know, but maybe because they wanted the tunnels and/or the institute for themselves instead. And as for the files of multiple locations just "lost" as martin says here, makes me believe that the spiders have multiple locations/houses like this one, and generally lots of things working as an organization would but in order to fulfill their goals.

@getrekt791

Жыл бұрын

jesus christ

@evagrev7351

Жыл бұрын

@@getrekt791 I know, right? 😅

@Idran

Жыл бұрын

I'm on a relisten and I'm loving all of your posts

19:31 Johnny, baby... shut up.

huh. do y’all think the spider lady from Children of the Night was one of the kids that “graduated” from hill top road?

While i was listening to this, my cheap headphones started to break and got kinda corrupted and staticky JUST as he entered the basement, it was legitimately terrifying

Jon... My sweet sweet boy.... They might just be avoiding you because you keep stalking them💀

Okay LOL so, I watch Bailey sarian and I bounce back and forth between this and her and at the end when they close it saying “thanks for listening” I always expect to hear Bailey say BYYEEEEE at the end EVERY time 😂😭

4/23/2020 Just yesterday. In my home. Alone, a recluse, tnx to the pandemic.

@mooloomoo

4 жыл бұрын

woah, so weird to see such a recent comment

Me, looking at my fake plastic spider I hung from my ceiling fan while listening to this: . . . Huh.

poor jon, I can't blame everyone else though. I hope it all gets resolved soon. on another note this season has a looooot of spiders

Spoiler for later seasons Makes sense for The Web to be afraid of The Desolation. What do compulsive planners hate more than their meticulously detailed schemes burning up in smoke?

"I don't like it. I feel like they're planning something." Yeah, an intervention hopefully.

All the buildings keep catching on fire. xD

Not the only one who got major The promised Neverland vibes from this

SPIDER-MAN SPIDER-MAN DOES WHATEVER A SPIDER CAN SPINS A WEB ANY SIZE CATCHES KIDS JUST LIKE FLIES

Thats the same table though right? Didnt Sasha describe it as a Spiders web? The plot thickens like mother's stew. This statemrnt connected some wild dots, including the hole in the table.

OMG that’s the table!!

BOX GOES IN THE TABLE BOX GOES IN THE TABLE I FUCKING CALLED IT

Funny, a 'recluse' is a type of spider.

Agnes, Agni. Hmm...

can we just take an axe to that damn table already

@theprideling

3 жыл бұрын

I so wanna see an update on this comment :D

@f_mva

3 жыл бұрын

@@theprideling :') haha....

@Catglittercrafts

2 жыл бұрын

@@f_mva whaaaattt????

@f_mva

2 жыл бұрын

@@Catglittercrafts oh, don't worry about it.... just keep listening

The spider woman the opioid using vampire hunter saw also had the power of "I decided to X" another person. So I guess spiders have this weird mind control power as well Agness's kiss burning may have been for other reasons or because they were in league with the invisible fire that was present in the grounds as told by the builder and the cannibal priest. Now why, and how, someone in league with another being / force / group would end up living in a spiders nest is beyond me

Not the table, not the table, aaaahhhhhh!

These comments about Jon needing therapy are more than confusing for me. He obviously has every right to that paranoid and the research and precautions taken with a second taperecorder are pretty reasonable. The concerning thing is, that everything he does is so bloody obvious and he lets the fear get the better of him. On the other hand, curiousity killed the cat…

@-S.L.

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly, even setting aside the whole Gertrude's murder thing, the night of Prentiss' attack would be cause for therapy alone. I think its reasonable to assume therapy might be helpful from that perspective but yeah he's definitely doing the right thing by being distrustful and taking precautions, the problem is he isn't able to see that Tim and Martin definitely aren't problems. (Idk about Elias and NotSasha is sus anyway.)

@Sxcheschka

2 жыл бұрын

as the saying goes, Curiosity killed the cat, but resolution brought him back.

I think Agnes might actually be a good guy. In the other episodes I was worried about her, but now I think that kiss she gave him on the cheek is what saved him by giving the burning feeling. I'm curious to learn more about her.