I had a lithium battery a few years ago in my car. Worked well and gave a lot more power when cranking. However one day after about a year my car came to a stop on the highway with all the electrics shutting off. The battery had died without warning and was a complete open circuit. This would never happen with a lead acid battery as they just slowly loose capacity over time, Lithium ion batteries just turn off without warning. There is a reason new vehicles still come with lead acid batteries despite the weight and the problems they cause.

@SuperYellowsubmarin

Жыл бұрын

That reason is cost.

@trsskater

5 ай бұрын

This happened because you had a faulty or cheap battery. They should last for 10 years with a bms system. And an open means somethings shorted which again sounds like a bad or out of spec battery. It didn't dead stop because it was lithium either. It dead stopped because the car lost battery voltage when the system became open. It can't slowly have less power when it can't make a complete circuit.

@micko9111

4 ай бұрын

Did you check the battery every two weeks

Hi Ari, I like your video & style.Not too much fluff with your facts.Thanks for sharing.

I agree with Master9. No extra fluff. Your video was fast moving and to the point.

Nice video. I have and love the NOCO 1100 charger. Only slightly more expensive than my old tender, and a pile of new tech. Also recharges a dead battery much faster, and can help recover an old battery with special recovery modes.

Good video but you missed one of the main advantages. Li ion batteries have very little voltage sag so lights will be brighter and starters will turn over more quickly.

@chrisredfield3240

5 жыл бұрын

I don't think the lights will be brighter as the regulator rectifier sets the voltage. It will probably turn over faster.

@coastalcleaningandmaintena2884

4 жыл бұрын

Just got 1 it DEFINITELY cranks 2 to 3x faster. They are amazing. Also they charge using your regular charging system. But your regular system will max out at 13.9 volts which is safer for the batt but it will only top it at about 80% charged as lith batts are 100% at 14.4 to 14.9. hope this helps y'all. And you don't need any fancy charger just one that shuts off. And no desulfacation chargers. 95% standard SLA chargers have what you need.

great video good knowledge. I like it thanks ari.

Thanks for the information about lithium batteries. You mentioned the need of using special external lithium chargers, what about the motorcycle/internal charger? Do you also need a special one. I was asked to do it, when I replaced my motorhome standard by lithium, because of the incompatibility with te original charger. I’ll appreciate you comments. Thanks for your support!

Great video. Learned me something about lithium ion batteries.

You could use the extra space saved to add some insulation around the battery to help keep them warm in the colder months.

Thanx for all the help and insurance guys

they make protection circuits to prevent overvolt/undervolt conditions. it electronically breaks the circuit to save the battery. it's really important in short circuit situations as the battery can go into rapid discharge and thermally melt down and cause a fire. protection circuits are built into most energy dense high end lithium polymer batteries.

@Herzankerkreuz67

8 жыл бұрын

+Ari Henning So let me get that straight..... Li-ion batteries need special chargers but one is able to throw the old conventional battery out of a bike with a ' conventional ' charging system and put some of those ' princess ' batteries in your bike....? Doesn't make sense to me.......

@bailey9r

5 жыл бұрын

@@Herzankerkreuz67 Charging systems just add power in a general safe range BUT to charge to peak power you first need to "balance" all the cells together because if one or more are higher when they all charge up the same, the higher ones with go nuke on you causing a fire or meltdown.

@Herzankerkreuz67

5 жыл бұрын

@@bailey9r Well , thanks for the comment. I finally did change my conventional battery for a Lithium battery on my bike. So far so good....I guess time will tell. Safe rides 👍🏍

Great info, thanks.

great video! i want to put a lithium ion on my 125cc atv. do they make charge controllers for lithium ion ? could i charge it off the stator ?

Very informative

If you have to have a special charger will the charging system in my motorcycle charge the lithium battery?

@urnzwayzmoove

3 жыл бұрын

Yes

@cj599

2 жыл бұрын

Most newer batteries lithium have a charge controller built in to not have to modify your bike

One other great benefit of at least one Li-Ion battery manufacturer. Warranty! My Lithium-Ion battery was double the price of a replacement lead-acid with it went belly up three years ago. But it had a three year warranty vs the one year warranty on a lead acid replacement battery. When my Li-Ion battery stopped holding a charge this year. I was one month away from the warranty expiring, but I went to my dealer and swapped it at no charge.

Would my Optimate 5 charger still work with these lithium ion batteries?

How do they do on high heat, i live in vegas in a car or frame of motorcycle might get 130° i fee yrs back i had a battery swell up on me

I just love the internet.... especially when a guy is giving you "The Lowdown" about Lithium-Ion batteries.....and he is in fact holding a LITHIUM-IRON battery in his hand. and yes, they are different!

@TheKelzer

8 жыл бұрын

+Ari Henning Here's a side note, I had a Shorai Lithium Iron battery in my 85 RZ500. It's kick-start only and basically no parasitic draw from computers. It didn't last more than 6 mos of occasional use. Apparently, Lithium-Iron batteries are very voltage sensitive and the old Yamaha charging system put out more than the battery could handle. Shorai even recommend I not use this type of battery in vintage bikes. Dropped in a heavy lead acid, and no problems at since. Love the show, keep up the good work!

@Tuukkis

5 жыл бұрын

@@TheKelzer so that means my CB750 would toast the lithium battery. Shit. Well, if Gel battery would work then

Hi could you please tell us or discuss the li battery with detailed power like explaining the volt and amp etc terms. Specially for ebikes. if you already have could you please share the links. Thanks.

What about in old bikes with old charging systems? (Like a 85 BMW R80 ???)

Put on on my KTM Duke the bike would not start and the LED Dashboard went crazy. Did this upset the ECU unit?

Hey Ari nothing to do with this video but would you be able to do a ride and review of the new MV Augusta Brutale Dragster RR? I think its a sweet bike but nobody has done a good review of it yet and all your bike reviews are killer!

I use yamaha libero 106cc, mafe 2005 india, i want to use lithium ion battery for it. I had collect good cells from laptop battery and a 3s2p BMS for it. Now i wanto yo know can i use this direct alternate to my existing 12v 2.5ah lead acid battery

does a rectifier regulator for lithium ion exists ?

Zo, do i need a different charger in me bike too? I have a TDM900 ..

Lead acid is poisonous. But lithium is good to eat!

@BigUriel

5 жыл бұрын

Lead acid batteries are actually more environmentally friendly than lithium batteries. Lithium mining is extremely polluting and sulfuric acid is actually a naturally occurring, environmentally safe and recyclable substance.

@BerryTheBnnuy

4 жыл бұрын

@@BigUriel The lead in the lead acid batteries however, not quite so environmentally friendly. Then there's also the hydrogen sulfide problem.

@paradisebreeze1705

4 жыл бұрын

@@BigUriel you can flush that evil stuff down the drain with no harm

@ZafodB3

3 жыл бұрын

Aren’t most of today’s modern motorcycle batteries AGM (absorbed glass-mat) batteries not the older Lead-acid style which had to be monitored for their water levels and electrolyte contents.

Brilliant thanks

also remember some lithium battery posts will not fit oem terminals. example bike master lith ion for my 06 zx6 said it will fit but it didnt, posts on battery were turned 180 degrees. called bikemaster sent clear photos and even they were suprised it wasnt a direct plug and play. they checked their stock and all the same. not a defect the company has it this way so it fits more bikes. i didnt want to mess with my terminals to make it fit. why should i just for an expensive battery? back to acid battery that fits as it should and extra money to spend on aftermarket parts. awesome vids Ari, this should have been done years ago!

@chrisredfield3240

5 жыл бұрын

Get a motobatt agm or lithium they both have 4 terminal positions

An chance you could put a small text on screen showing weights and measurements in non freedom units?

Great video.... thank you for the info. As you mentioned, charging Li-Ion batteries require a specific charger. Is the charging rate from the bike’s charging system safe for the Li-Ion battery fitted ? Many thanks 🙏

@Ghryst

8 ай бұрын

just stfu n buy his amazon products

Special Chargers????? The Lithium cells need to be equal in level of charge before charging. That is what the Lithium chargers do and why most Lithium Batteries need a special charger. The WPS battery has the balancer built into the battery. Also they have a low voltage cut off built in to protect them from getting too low. So, no special battery charger needed for WPS. Oh, but make sure that your battery charger isn't an "auto desulfation" type charger. Those put way too much voltage in and will damage your Lithium battery. Also, there is absolutely nothing in a WPS Lithium battery that is combustible. The Lithium in the WPS batteries is different than the cordless drills, remote control cars, and hoverboards have in them. Safety is key with WPS!

@darkknight17

5 жыл бұрын

Martin, you know your stuff mate! It took me a weeks worth of reading and digesting contradictory view points in various forms to accumulate real world experiences and you are spot on! I wish I'd read your comment first and saved myself the head ache!

@darkknight17

5 жыл бұрын

Question: What happens if the BMS fails on a battery? Fire hazard?

@GabrielKozsar

5 жыл бұрын

"The Lithium in the WPS batteries is different than the cordless drills......" "Also, there is absolutely nothing in a WPS Lithium battery that is combustible. " I am interested in the difference. What chemistry is used in the WPS battery because AFAIK LiFePo , LiPo or any lithium are combustible. Aren't there 18650 (or any size equivalent) cells in them ? What is inside BTW ?

@MFDOOMgr

4 жыл бұрын

Can i just install a lithium battery in my motorcycle ?

YES! on 2/17/2018 I installed a $152. DLFP51913 BIKEMASTER LITHIUM BATTERY in my 2013 K1600GTL. Stock BMW Battery Is 10 9Lb, New Lithium Is 3.6Lb [1,632.9g] So It's 6.4Lb Less. Tested Lithium Battery: 13.4v & 255 CCA. Before Charging It. (using Topdon ArtiBattery101) Tested Old BMW Battery as: 12.43v & 195CCA, Yesterday tested the Lithium battery after turning on the key for 8 min, and test results are: 13.22V, 335CCA.! (I'm still using the BMW battery in my lawn mower.)

Wow that's a nice weight saving

@jerryx2000

7 жыл бұрын

Some tummies have more weight than any lithium battery could ever save 😂 😂

Can they be used on a stator system?

No mention of the low actual amps on a lithium battery? it could be a pretty big deal...

Well, if it means I wont have to take out the battery during the winter... SOLD. Also not having to check for acid leaks is nice.

i am learning a lot from your channel.

I have a 2014 KLX 250 with a ion battery in it. like a meathead I shut the bike off with the thumb switch and not the actual ignition switch. Went to the store, hour latter come back outside the bike was completely dead took me a few tries but I was able to jump start the bike by pushing it pumping it in the second gear dumping the clutch. Then after a short ride the battery fully charged and have not had an issue with it since.

@chrisredfield3240

5 жыл бұрын

Did you leave the key in the bike then? Lucky you had a bike to come back too

Hi MC, please tell me, I was in a conversation with a friend, we both have Aprilias. And from time to time as we are in a country without Aprilia's representative, we find out things for our bike via Internet mostly. On last conversation he mentioned something like, it re-sets something on the bike, if we disconnect the battery and bond the two connectors together. It was more people around and conversation desviates. But the questions remains in my head. If in fact does anything, what is it? Joao Paulo Amaro Luanda, Angola Thank You!!

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What do you recom for a KTM 1290 Super Adv S 2019?

Is the Lithium battery compatible for a 1995 Suzuki GSX 600f Katana?

Wait a minute did you say that lithium battery charger will also charge a regular acid battery as well

Do you need a special charging relay for the li-ion? They usually need to be monitored while charging

@mitropoulosilias

3 жыл бұрын

no, there should be a ballance charger inside the battery.. i assume these is not.

Do they jump start the same as a lead acid?

So Ari, if you need a special charger to charge lithium batteries, how come you dont need to change the charging system of your bike if your bike was designed to equip lead acid?

@Ghryst

8 ай бұрын

just stfu n buy his amazon products

Do I need to make any modifications if I want to replace my stock battery with a lithium ion battery. Also my battery reads 9aH while the lithium battery doesn't, how do I know if it's compatible?

@ThePwaifya

7 жыл бұрын

No modifications needed. Just make sure the new battery supplies enough amps.

How do you know what battery to get? like i have tried to search but i can't find it easily for my bike (honda cb900)

@onoff314

8 жыл бұрын

***** Thanks mate

Nice info. About the chargers, something just pop up to me. How is that you need a special charger for this batteries but your bike is capable of charge it? I know there is probably a lot of difference between a charger and the way your bike charges the battery but don't know what is that difference.

@romanval69

6 жыл бұрын

I think he's wrong about this one. A regular low current 12v charger (2 amp or less) should work fine charging Li Ion batteries of most 500cc+ motorcycles. Just put an electric meter on it and make sure to shut off the charger when it gets to 13.5 volts- and *definitely* don't let it get above 14.5 volts. A charger made for Li ion will do that shut off automatically... which is why they cost more. Regular lead acid batteries are immune to slight overcharging (you can put 15V into a lead acid all day and it won't hurt it), but that will kill a Li Ion battery.

Can you jump start a lithium battery with a typical Antigravity Micro starter?

Gracias 👍👍👍

Do I need a special rectifier to support a lithium ion battery? My bike died on the highway today and only thing I changed was the battery to a lithium ion.

How about the fumes that contribute to rust and corrosion on a traditional non-lithium battery

Will the motorcye electrical system charge the lithium battery or when you notice that your battery is low you have to get it out and charge it with special charger as you mentioned?

@L3B02D9

8 жыл бұрын

+Majola 5 They will charge it just fine as long as it is a newer bike.

@Hottracks4

7 жыл бұрын

What about the 2011/2013 CBR250R? Will it support these?

@bjorn1583

6 жыл бұрын

my 94 xv1100 was fine with one

Lithium batteries has battery management system built in with the battery case. So even with the old flooded or agm settings of the motorcycle, the bms will dictate if charging is needed not the charging system of the motorcycle.

Hi Ari. I am very new to motorcycle. I got myself a Keeway Speed 125. And no, Chinese bikes are not that bad but... I have decided to do some upgrades and to learn hown to look after it so my upgrades & repairs are going well until I realised the headlight bulb medium beam is flickering as if a contact somewhere is acting up. The low beam and the hight beam are good and strong. So, I started to do some checks 1) the bulb filament are good 2) the bulb fits well in its socket and everything is clean and rust free 3) the wiring looks good and solid again no rust but today, as I was doing more checks I forgot to turn the contact off and as I was moving a metallic screwdriver from contact to contact the bulb suddenly light up and as suddenly off. I was onto something I thought until I realised that the bike is dead. no more contact, no more light, no more anything :(( What did I do? Did I fry the battery or something else??? Kind Regards Olivier

@lmripper3659

Жыл бұрын

Just recharge the battery 🤷‍♂️

Just got 1 it DEFINITELY cranks 2 to 3x faster. They are amazing. Also they charge using your regular charging system. But your regular system will max out at 13.9 volts which is safer for the batt but it will only top it at about 80% charged as lith batts are 100% at 14.4 to 14.9. hope this helps y'all. And you don't need any fancy charger just one that shuts off. And no desulfacation chargers. 95% standard SLA chargers have those options.

@witgangyounotube287

3 жыл бұрын

what i hate about them is they couldn't be bother'd to use that extra space to put a cutoff circuit on low voltage so it wouldn't discharge itself to death

@gerrymcerlean8432

2 жыл бұрын

@@witgangyounotube287 Most L-ion batteries DO have a BMS which prevents over discharge.

@dushk0

2 жыл бұрын

More like 16v full charge with li-ion if you use 4 in series, that's why lifepo is better suited (as well as superior current/performance and safety).

@Motorcyclist Magazine So will these bad boys fit on pretty much any bike ???

So, umm.. What do you do about your stock charging system? Isnt that important?

Do the alternator or charging circuits on the bike need to be modified for the battery swap?

@Nicholas211

7 жыл бұрын

no

@johncorbishley1548

4 жыл бұрын

@@Nicholas211 Most definitely, look at the power tool chargers, they have about 6 connections, not 2 like lead acid.

Nice 😃

They way seen expensive, but I don't think there is a cheaper way to remove weight. Do you recommend any particular brand? I've heard good things about the Shorai.

@chrisredfield3240

7 жыл бұрын

not really a cheap way to loose 4lb. one for my bike is £140 uk. i carry a litre of water when i ride, thats half the saving gone

The Antigravity Li-Ion battery used in this video now comes with jump start feature.

Can you recomend a specific charger for Lithium Battery ? Would appreciate a link.

@chrisphilhower6029

7 жыл бұрын

I am using a Schumacher SP6 on my Harley 750. It will do Conventional and Lithium Batteries. Just select the mode. And will Maintain as well. My 2015 Harley Street 750 has a Hard Drive Lithium installed. Direct Drop in. And has about 100 CCA More than the Factory battery. The other nice feature is, The SP6 will display a Charge Percentage. Along with a "Bad Battery, Charge Aborted" message.

Can these batteries be installed sideways?

How it can stand bike charging system but not home charger?

Good tips. Side note, how do you like that rc390 as a experienced rider? Considering snagging one or the 390 duke.

@sarahdell4042

8 жыл бұрын

***** Glad to hear! Thanks

@joel-em8zp

8 ай бұрын

I like the duke I have an 09 Aprilia SXV 550 love it as well I wish Aprilia did a modern version of the SXV!

Don’t you have to worry about the alternator on your motorcycle being capatible with the battery?

What is the difference between charging with a standard charger or charging with the motorcycle charging system ?

@BerryTheBnnuy

4 жыл бұрын

There are multiple cells in a lithium ion battery, and they might not all be at the same level. A regular lead acid battery charger is going to charge as if all the cells are at the same level of charge. If even one of them is higher than the others this can result in some rather spectacular fire works unless it's a Lithium Iron Phosphate battery, then it won't explode, but it will still die.

@GoForGold256

4 жыл бұрын

Jenny Tokumei that didn’t answer the question. If you cannot use a traditional charger on a lithium battery, how does a lithium battery charge in the bike using the standard/traditional charging system...

@BerryTheBnnuy

4 жыл бұрын

@@GoForGold256 i think it depends on the battery. I swapped to a lithium ion on my 1988 KZ1000-P with no mods to the bike and it's working fine... Can't run the bike in below freezing temperatures, though, or the battery will charge while frozen and that'll kill the battery? If it requires a special charger, there'll probably be a special charger port. In can't say for certain though.

@Joe_1971

4 жыл бұрын

@@GoForGold256 Good point...I know on my rc vehicles my lithium packs are balanced charged..something a standard 12v rectifier charging system will not do. I think it's best to stick to AGM batteries for motorcycles.

@jeffball6108

4 жыл бұрын

I was told by a local battery shop that if you buy a li-ion battery specifically designed for a motorbike (or car) there is a charging circuit built into the battery that controls the charge that comes from the bikes charging circuit (which in older bikes were designed for lead acid). You can therefore safely use a lead acid battery charger.

sounds like a great option since I live in Florida. I do have a hi tech AGM battery charger, is that good enough to charge lithium batteries or is it a MUST to have a lithium battery charger? thanks

@GrimFaceHunter

7 жыл бұрын

Maybe look into a charger for electric bicycle. Endless-sphere.com may be a good starting point.

@DaddyEric222

7 жыл бұрын

Depends on the battery, the Anti gravity batterie in this show are great and claim you should be able to use any old charger. (don't get a Shori battery)

how many years a Lithium battery can be used compared with the "old fashon one"?

@chrisredfield3240

5 жыл бұрын

The old lead acid ones often last 10 years plus if treated well. I don't think it's really an issue to compare either. Cost and weight play a big part. The Ah rating concerns me a little paying double the price in some cases to go from 16.5Ah to a 5Ah lithium seems bad. Even if the cca is higher

i dont get it, if i hook up a lithium battery to my bike it gets charged with 14V. But when i use a old fashoined battery teder which does the same thing it suddenly wont work.

How come i need a special charger for the battery but my bike can charge it?

Was wondering, now I know. Don’t care about weight saving so will go for another acid battery. Can’t be dealing with extra expense and faff.

Just forgot to mention a critical part of the system, the charging part. Just look at the cordless tool chargers, they have half a dozen connections and for good reason, each cell or group of cells gets monitored whilst charging. There is a bit more science going on, than is mentioned here.

You 2 guys are brilliant. In the uk we have 2 guys 44 teeth r something like that they are 2 ball begs.

This is probably a dumb question, but if I need a lithium specific charger designed for this new special battery why then is my bikes charging system, designed for the old lead acid types just fine for this new lithium???

Li-ion battery are 12.6v?

I'm rather partial to agm for a lot better battery performance over simple wet lead batteries

my question is will a bike recharge a lithium ion without some kind of adapter?

a few of the newer lio batts have a BMS that will cut the power before it damages the cells my noco does this. don't ask how I figured it out haha...

how come you need a specific charger for lithium bateries since the charging system of the bike can work the same with both batterey types?

you gave no explanation about how the bikes charging system affects the new age battery. ??????????? so....

@BerryTheBnnuy

4 жыл бұрын

This right here. This is my main concern.

@frase1234

4 жыл бұрын

I'm also worried about that

@christianmcdowell3052

2 жыл бұрын

the alternator charges the battery...

In a emergency situation is it possible to start a bike having a dead dry battery with jumper cables ?

@geraldirwin2933

3 ай бұрын

Mine sure didn’t there’s a lot of negatives their not telling us. I don’t think they charge on your bikes charging system it just dies without warning and you cannot jump them in emergency! Am I wrong someone please let me know. Thx

Unfortunately Ari doesn't speak to the instability of Lithium Ion batteries, as well as the various subtypes. I personally went with the Lithium Iron Phosphate Battery tender battery over the one he showed, because it has additional stable property making it less likely to melt down in the even of vibrations and such.

end the fire problem ?

I wish I can order this .. the problem here in kuwait is our Customs. I would pay double the price of this battery if you could deliver it to my Door .. I am living in kuwait >

so does it mean I have to install a voltmeter on my old bike to keep track of its voltage not going 11 volts

@ThePwaifya

7 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't be too worried about it unless your bike has a charging issue. Lithium batteries are the same type of battery that's in your phone and how much do you thought do you give that?

@ItsFriscoBaby

7 жыл бұрын

Your phone turns itself off before there is any chance of damaging the battery

@johnpauldiamante5618

6 жыл бұрын

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One of those “wish i’d watch this first” video’s. No I have the proper charger and and new Li battery. 🤪👍

Do you need a charger between the bike's wiring harness and the battery? Also, I notice you rather conspicuously didn't mention the problem with running a lithium ion battery in below freezing temperatures... While I realize most people are too wussy to ride in the cold, I do, and this is actually a huge concern for me.

@Annon89

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I have lithium for solar setup and they are really sensitive to temp. So far I haven’t had an issue with my new lithium battery for my motorcycle. But we will see what happens as I do ride in the winter and there will definitely be some low temp charging happening.

I love your videos but why dont we see any customs ?

why does he use rc390 arent there better bikes for whatever he needs it for? was there a video about that? i ride rc390 too but just curious what are his reasons...

Make more on two wheels please

plss plss plss...can u guys do a video on solving buzzing noise on rc390..damn its annoying..

So you need a special charger for li-ion batteries, but the charge during normal riding is ok?

@DaddyEric222

7 жыл бұрын

Yes you shouldn't ever need a charger with these batteries.

@craigmartin822

7 жыл бұрын

Most do. The Lithium cells need to be equal in level of charge before charging. That is what the Lithium chargers do. The WPS battery has the balancer built into the battery. Also they have a low voltage cut off built in to protect them from getting too low. So, no special battery charger needed for WPS. Oh, but make sure that your battery charger isn't an "auto desulfation" type charger. Those put way too much voltage in and will damage your Lithium battery.

@LOZBRY

5 жыл бұрын

so if I put on on my 40 year old cx500 it will be okay then,

I have a 05 Kawasaki Vulcan 800 classic, what lithium battery would fit

@jonathangarzon2798

7 жыл бұрын

plz answer I haven't been able to find one that fits

@ThePwaifya

7 жыл бұрын

Size isn't an issue, as long as you can get the terminals connected and the battery secured it'll work.

Isn't there also a requirement for Lith batteries to be charged at a higher voltage, which some older bikes may not be able to do?

@chrisredfield3240

5 жыл бұрын

I actually changed my reg/rectifier it was putting out around 13.2v. The one i replaced with puts out 14.7-15.1v the lights are noticeably better. 1996 vs 2004 bikes i sold the old one back on e-bay for almost the same.

I installed a lithium battery in my motorcycle. I believe it has protection for not dropping under a voltage range. If the battery shuts down due to protection the bike has 0 volts, this could happen for any reason, shutting the bike off with the run switch and leaving lights on for as little as 5mins. Once the battery drops to protection value, safety kicks in and the motorcycle power goes to 0v. Why is this important? Because if you find yourself in this situation and try to start the bike by pushing it. You will be out of luck, ignition with 0 volts will never feed the ignition module and your spark plugs become a compression sealer decoration, no spark on them while try to crank in gear push or down the hill. Jump is a must if safety drop is active, not sure how it will work with kick start equipped motorcycles under that situation.

Any reviews on the X2power lithium batteries for Aprilia?