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@jonathanjollimore7156

2 жыл бұрын

This thing makes the 3DO look good and that's not easy

@stevewilliams9085

2 жыл бұрын

LOL yuck that guy looks like Ron Jeremy

@tenbob1972

2 жыл бұрын

nice video as per but please don't do a brummy accent again . please please.

A friend of mine a retired BBC Sound Engineer had a slew of Amiga's in his studio as nothing at the time PC wise without vast fortunes spent could keep up with the Amiga's video and sound editing capability and some very high end BBC stuff was done on his machines as he used one particular one to blend in rendered graphics onto a green screen which then the studio team could create some stunning overlays at the office. He also produced country style music scores for American studios and he would record everything using his Amiga hooked up to some serious sound kit. I very nearly bought a CD32 myself but I didn't get on with Amiga's being a dyed in the wool PC chap and after finding the Atari ST disappointing I didn't want to risk again further disappointment. For me I liked me consoles all NES'y and SNES'y with maybe a hint or two of Mega Drive :D

@robsmall6466

2 жыл бұрын

Let's not forget the part the Amiga played in creating the CGI for the Babylon 5 TV series as well

I think you forgot to mention that the console was also used by big credit union in Vancouver, they rented these to customers via a monthly subscription service which allowed customers to access a homebaking service called VanCity Direct. It was essentially a CD32 console with an external modem module which clipped onto the left side of the console via the CD32 Aux port. The modem module also had inferred capabilities which supported a wireless remote control so it could seemlessly sit under the TV and be controled without the original joypad. The remote also allowed you to control the CD32 in normal operations which made it useful for changing tracks on audio CD's and Video CD's if the FMV module was installed.

Every time I have to use windows I miss my Amigas. As soon as I switched, all the excitement and creativity computers coaxed from me ceased and they became these characterless work machines.

@MrYossarianuk

2 жыл бұрын

Same here, which is why I ended up using Linux full time (including every job) since 2003. It had the community aspect I found closer to the Amiga than Windows

It still breaks my heart thinking of Commodore's bankruptcy. 💔

@davidhogben1455

2 жыл бұрын

if it had some decent managment like David Pleasance then Commodore might still be around today

@d_vibe-swe

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidhogben1455 Imagine having a Commodore Amiga Smartphone 😉

@oraclejmt

Жыл бұрын

@@d_vibe-swe Having Amiga around today in a modern state, would trash even Apple

Just finished watching the Zelda one and now I have this one. Thank you Lady Decade!

Unfortunately, the lawsuit that you cite wasn't the only thing that killed Commodore, rather it was one of many nails in the coffin. The coffin, itself, was the inept leadership of people like Mehdi Ali...

I am a newcomer to your channel, I watched some of your videos and I really love you're "Lost games/consoles" videos Keep up the good work !! Greetings from Belgium in Europe !! ^^

Brilliant as always! Keep up the good work lass and stay safe!

From what I can see in online discussions by engineers, the A500's custom chipsets could have been more powerful, and the AGA was just a rush job. Again, easily made better. Also a better chipset was being developed around 1989\90 but was canned, as far as I recall. My takeaway from this is that the Amiga should have led the way in graphics substantially until the mid-nineties, giving the company some chance to stay a niche maker.

@Waccoon

2 жыл бұрын

There were two projects let by different teams with regards to a "super Denise" chip, both of which were just minor hack jobs. The first got canned and the second went on to be the lackluster ECS chipset. Once ECS was done, they once again started a hack job to get AGA out the door, which really only attempted to improve the video chip and left the rest of the machine to languish. Hedley Davis (project manager of the A3000) stated that at the time, Commodore was only really moving transistors around and put no effort into new architecture, layout, or die shrinks. It's sad to think that the 8-bit C65 was in many ways more powerful than the current 16-bit Amiga at the time. They were betting the farm on AAA, and that was a mistake. AAA was in development hell for 5 years, included everything and the kitchen sink, and was way too ambitious and expensive (a total of 9 chips in the 64-bit configuration, if you include the 3 CIA timers). Hombre was the way to go, but that decision was made too late.

@vast634

2 жыл бұрын

Since the Amiga was primarily a gaming system for most users, being niche would not cut it, as game companies develop for the most common systems or console market first. The PC was simply too big of a contender to leave any room, even for a better Amiga. And Apple had the professional market.

Fantastic to see so much spotlight given to Commodore's console here. The timeline of what could have been and what would have needed to occur for Commodore not to collapse is to me as fascinating to ponder as with Sega. Fantastic coverage with plenty of jokes and new info I had not heard about such as the Hombre chip.

Love the topics of this channel. The CD32 is one of my top console wishlist systems.

Really enjoyed this video. Keep up the great work x

Any Amiga content is always appreciated!

Great video! Love the channel, your videos are informative and entertaining.

@erickennon8809

Жыл бұрын

Cleavage is a big help too

So many what ifs with the Amiga. Still my favourite set of machines, but the miss management of the company was painful.

Thanks for another awesome video Lady Decade.

You cover the most interesting of topics in gaming. Brava mate.

Great overview! What could have been eh? Thanks for the shoutout for my podcast too, Haynie is a legend! :)

@LadyDecade

2 жыл бұрын

No worries!

Just recently discovered this channel, awesome content!! Keep it up!

Very interesting! I enjoy your videos immensely!

I tell you what Lady i played a few different commodore machines like C64, Amiga 1020 even played few times even on commodore 32 cd player but didn't know about 64 they were good machines for there time, and you dig up some interesting facts once again that I didn't know keep up the good detective work 👍. Can't wait for your next up load.

Hey Lady, this video has caused quite a stir on a post in the Facebook commodore Amiga group! Members getting into different facts and information on the history (scrapped CD64 plans VS a CD1200 prototype.) Some have questioned the validity of the CD64 altogether, and others have criticized and praised this video, same with your research and narration style, hahaha, it's funny to see them squirm. Commodore people are generally fanatics. Thanks for yet another cool video.

@Waccoon

2 жыл бұрын

The timeline for these projects matters a lot. Acutiator was an early project and had already been abandoned along with the AAA chipset, since it was obsoleted by the then-new PCI spec. Hombre was designed right from the beginning with full PCI support. As far as my own research tells me, there was never an official CD64 project, just speculation on what kind of system could be built with Hombre (several different machines were proposed in the Hombre presentation papers, including video cards for low-end HP workstations). But, hey, it's fun to think of what could have been. I've been playing with the source code of WinUAE and developing an alternate ECS chipset with double-CAS and chunky pixel support. It's fun to think of what you could accomplish (and how compatibility breaks) if you really push the architecture to its limits.

Excellent trip down memory lane as always! I'm off to listen to the music from the last ninja 🤘

Great video! Many thanks!

Great content as always lady decade.

I don’t understand why engineers in Commodore thought to build their own RISC chip. The future of the 680xx series CPUs was already known: Power PC, a collaboration of IBM, Apple and Motorola. Commodore should have boarded the same train.

Serious research went into this, cool video.

I love these vids, her style is awesome.

The Amiga using a risc chip seems most interesting to me considering how the whole world is moving that way now

@maroon9273

Жыл бұрын

When amiga got it right and then it died due to the cdtv and cd32.

Hei, from Brazil here , i love you work!🥰

Hi, another interresting vidéo. Thanks. Will you do a video on Philips cd-i ? Thanks from France. 😊

It is interesting how Commodore did not realize they are really competing with Nintendo.

@fattiger6957

2 жыл бұрын

Both Nintendo and Sony (and Sega to a lesser extent) Even if the lawsuit didn't kill Commodore, the CD32 and whatever came after would have been destroyed by the PS1.

I bought my brother a NEC turbo graphics turbo duo in for Christmas 1993 it had a CD ROM and a 16 bit cartridges it came with several games and I bought him several more he played it for a long time then he put it away for over 25 years about a year ago he took it out and it worked like it did in 1993

@virtuafighter3

2 жыл бұрын

Good sibling you are to get him that, as that machine is brilliant.

@charlesduboise5198

2 жыл бұрын

@@virtuafighter3 he is my youngest brother he was 13 and I was 25 at the time he is way younger than the rest of us kids so we would buy him all the stuff we didn't get as kids he is now 41 a CPA and has 3 computer degrees his accounting business has about 2000 accounts and he does books for people all over the world

"For the masses, not the classes" has been stuck in my head for a couple weeks now.

@cubeflinger

2 жыл бұрын

What's the classes? Apple pippin?

@SlavomirG

2 жыл бұрын

7:14

Thanks for another entertaining video 🙂

"and the entity simply continued business as normal" - but that was business as normal for Commodore lol. A technology company which wouldn't let its engineers design and make things.

@Waccoon

2 жыл бұрын

Actually, the problem was that the engineers were allowed to do whatever they wanted with AAA with almost no oversight. They ended up making a huge, complex monster that couldn't be finished on schedule or cost-reduced over time. That was actually the same mistake as the west-coast Amiga engineers working on their VRAM-based Ranger chipset, which was also way too expensive. Engineers are artists making machines. If you don't keep them on a tight leash and enforce deadlines, they will design forever and never release anything.

@seamusoblainn4603

2 жыл бұрын

@@Waccoon I'm going on what I've picked up from Hynie and Miner interviews but your perspective is another way of looking at the problem and they can both run in parallel. I guess Commodore needed a Steve Jobs character to bring everyone under a single vision

Tim Jenison owner of NewTek tried to buy up the stock of CD32's during the bankruptcy hearing. At the time I actually got a Video Toaster running on one with a weird bit of hacks and he was considering trying to use them to make Video Toaster boxes. In the past NewTek tried to make an Amiga on a PC card so you could install a full Amiga and toaster complete into a intel PC. I have a few prototype boards in my collection.

@VJagentONE

2 жыл бұрын

No Way! Can I ask a MAJOR MAJOR Favor if you still in contact with him? To release the Source Code for Elan Performer and Invision software, so that someone can add AGA and RTG and sound capabilities to that software including Vampire card and RaspberryPi Zero as a Gfx card support to make it a full fledged up to date VJ software. I used to be a VJ at a club and used Elan Performer on a CD32 with a DCTV (with RGB adaptor) to do live Visuals to the beat of the music and also transitions smoothly into SCALA MM400 to add to the mix. Had 128mb RAM and an SX32 Pro board 68030 with FPU 50mhz unit inside the CD32....what an awesome piece of kit.

your game room looks so fun id jump around like a 5 year old on christmas if I had this room

It's always fun to think what might have been. As a games console an Amiga 64 would have struggled to make inroads even if Commodore didn't have that lawsuit to contend with. Back in the early 90s gaming was evolving rapidly and even if a Amiga 64 CD had better hardware the a PS1 or Sega Saturn Commodore didn't have good enough publishers who could really take advantage of the hardware. Sega and Nintendo had all those established IP's to draw from (plus Sega's arcade lineup) and all the best game developers at that time were Japanese who worked for Sony, Sega and Nintendo. A realistic and best outcome for such a console would be 4th place behind the Saturn imo beating out that other crap that was around at that time (Philips CD-i, 3DO and Atari Jaguar).

There was a sequel? The nerd should look Into this.

@Zontar82

2 жыл бұрын

the nerd is the less adapt person to review european console or pc or computers and should just stick to usa consoles, like his c64 videos showed us

@BottomlessInventory

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I can imagine him saying something like "double the turd for half the price".

@thecunninlynguist

2 жыл бұрын

@@Zontar82 it's all in fun. Your comment would make more sense if he was doing documentary style like Ms. Decade or Top Hat, but he's poking fun at all the old stuff.

@thecunninlynguist

2 жыл бұрын

@@stevemelo touche

Top vid again !

I was just talking to somebody the other day about Big Boss Man at Big Shows Dads funeral, what a classic.

I prefer the alternate reality in my head where Commodore never went bankrupt..... I was thoroughly disappointed when I didn't see one in the parallel reality in the Fringe TV Show, especially when they went to see Nimoy in the still existing Twin Towers. I prefer that reality so much so I tried to make it a reality by partnering to create Commodore USA, LLC (and co-created the Commodore C64x), which you keep showing the premises of in your videos BTW. I think I may even have taken that photo. You know, the one with the car in front of the cream building with the Commodore logo. You can use it, it's fine. I just find it funny.

I saw the Metroid video you did. I was wondering if you played the Metroid clone that was Turrican. I remember playing this when I was about twelve on an a1200 Amiga. It was actually a good game

@carbonara2144

2 жыл бұрын

Metroid clone? Turrican was on A500 already and was absolute dynamite!

I wish amiga would've sell the hombre64 chipset to a computer graphics and arcade companies.

Awesome WWF clip From the Big Shows Dad's funeral. Attitude Era!

So sad to see one of America's best computer companies collapse through terrible mismanagement. The competition it (and Atari) could have provided to the industry could have pushed technology years ahead of where it is today.

That billboard outside of Sega was on another level tho lol

@Waccoon

2 жыл бұрын

David Pleasance has told some amusing stories of his encounters with Sega representatives. 8)

I wasn't even aware Commodore/Amiga had entered the home gaming console market. Fascinating.

@fattiger6957

2 жыл бұрын

They had a couple of attempts. The CD32 and a consolized C64. They failed miserably.

@bghoody5665

2 жыл бұрын

@@fattiger6957 I watched the previous video on the CD32 after watching this one, where she mentions the C64 console, and I realized that I was wrong because I had seen it before (probably in an 8-Bit Guy video).

@maroon9273

Жыл бұрын

They were better off going to the home console market with the hombre chipset (cd64)

Yes that some nice recommendation well done KZread algorithm. And thank You lady Decade.

Thank you, you are really good at finding strange intresting things but how many do you have left?

Mustaches aren't the same now a days. Thank you for the quality videos

I seem to remember the next system was supposed to be the Loki, that may have been Sinclair.

Great videos do you know how to connect amiga32 to new tv? That would be a great help thank you :-)

Oh wow.. what a random place to be reminded of the Commodore International on Nutthall road.. it was the East Midlands premiere nightclub you know.. well, that's what they claimed in the Evening Post when they decided to knock it down.. became a Sainsburys Local though, not a Morrisons 😂

I really wanted an amiga 32.... Shame it didnt last, i had amiga 500 and loved it.

Nice "masses not the classes" throwback reference. I like when you use that accent lol

hey great content as always, are you going to pick up the A500 mini when it comes out in early 2022? I cant wait to get one and relive my child hood favourite games.

@mountainbearoutdoors

2 жыл бұрын

@@jurassicmatt2796 the same company that did the c64 mini is doing an a500 there's video's on yt about it, I have one pre-order on Amazon

I think Amiga was done for after the AGA chipset proved not to be enough of a leap forward to compete with the growing PC market. It just wasn't a bang for your buck like Amiga 500 was, so not enough people upgraded to keep Amiga going long enough for it to really put up a fight in the console world.

@lazarushernandez5827

2 жыл бұрын

It was a number of things. In the U.S. we never got the CD32 (as LadyDecade stated), and Amigas were mostly used for 2d and 3d animation and video production over here. In that arena the AGA chipset could've held its own for a bit longer. I had A1200 (still do), and a friend had an Amiga 2000 with Newtek's Video Toaster, later getting the A4000 for the same task. We never really got AGA specific games, (why would they bother when the A500 was the predominant Amiga for gamers). I had a few Amiga games, but I was mainly using DeluxePaint IV, Caligari 24, Imagine 3D, Real 3D and other graphics/animation programs...

@fattiger6957

2 жыл бұрын

With the momentum the DOS/Windows PC was getting in the 90s, I can't see Amiga competing in anything more than their niche of video production.

@lazarushernandez5827

2 жыл бұрын

​@@fattiger6957 It wasn't that niche at the time, They were being used to produce TV and movie graphics. The sci fi series Babylon 5 initially used Amigas with Newtek's Lightwave and Video Toaster to produce the CGI. They switch to PC though because Amiga went under, and the PCs were much faster with the Pentium. So yeah even that niche went away for the Amiga.

@fattiger6957

2 жыл бұрын

@@lazarushernandez5827 I mean niche in the overall landscape of computers. Amigas were popular for production, but the PC took over the consumer space in the 90s.

@lazarushernandez5827

2 жыл бұрын

@@fattiger6957 agreed.

Project reality, hmm N64 designed by SGI. SGI had the Reality Engine which ran on massive machines, I have experienced it at SGI back in 98, a real time tendered zoom in of the earth up to “microscopic level” at which point it ends with the N64, the speed that thing rendered at was impressive.

where's the end of the video's music from ???? thanks!

Hi I live in France and I’m pretty sure I’ve seen CD32s used in driving schools here as well in the late 90s

I couldnt wait to get my cd32 when it released i loved it then and still do today it just never got the chance it deserved

Just like the add use to say "Are you keeping up with The Commodore, as the Commodore is keeping up with you 64bit Arc would of been Magic

Awesome liji

Un buon video,brava

If the cd32 is an expensive console to get today, I can imagine how much an arcade made with the cd32 would cost. I wonder if there's still any around.

@matthewmartin5610

Жыл бұрын

I have 1, the future of gaming the man said in the shop.

so basically Amiga Jaguar

Seems to be some naming confusion. AGA is a name for the existing late Amiga graphics system present in Amiga 1200 and 4000. What's being discussed here seems to be something new.

Its been talked to death but I'd love to know what LD could add to the Polybius mythology.

Great tune in the beginning of the video. Wiich game is it from? Crazy Cars?

@LadyDecade

2 жыл бұрын

Puzznic!

@dbnpoldermans4120

2 жыл бұрын

@@LadyDecade Ah yes, Puzznic! thx. I see Tim Follin made it. Tim Follin one of the best Amiga musicians!

Here's me thinking I knew all about my CD32. Wow.

I've held the prototype in Leicester Computer Museum, we also covered the story years ago with Andy there too. The video is here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/f3ilsrKtqs7Zmrw.html Enjoy! 🤟😎🤟

In terms of a "Where are they now?" fate being a slot machine is much more glamorous than what happened to the Atrai Jaguar.

@pigs18

2 жыл бұрын

At least they're not coffee machines (3DO M2)

@Waccoon

2 жыл бұрын

I love the fact that the original Jaguar plastic molds were used to manufacture dental equipment. Talk about losing your fangs.

@chaospoet

2 жыл бұрын

@@Waccoon HA! I never thought of that! 😆

You should review the Dr. V64 add on for the N64.

I don't know? Would i have wanted a 3D Amiga? No is probably my best answer.

The music and editing in these videos are fantastic. Clearly for the masses, not the classes.

@neilo3476

2 жыл бұрын

It's not for me sadly. I find the background music a distraction to what is actually being said.

Even if that lawsuit didn't kill Commodore then, I can't see them surviving much longer afterwards. Their consoles would have been buried under the PS1 and their computers would have been steamrolled by the DOS/Windows PC. Commodore just didn't have the funds to compete with Sony or Nintendo and PCs were available from so many manufacturers that Amigas could never compete in price or software library.

Nice another video

I love all Amiga's with the exception of the CD32. The controller was horrendus and the cd loading was flaky at best (freezing during loading). Whilst there were plenty of great aga based 1200 games, lot of them never made it to the CD32.

@maroon9273

8 ай бұрын

Worst part commandore market it as a home console.

1:38 - What was the name of this Zelda clone?

Fantastico!!! Bello

Please do a Infinium Phantom console video 😩

there where so many damn video game units around it was hard to compete with nintendo & sega during the 90's

The Amiga was stalling in its tech in the early 90s anyhow. Its was a system doomed to die off, and get replaced by the PC for gaming. I remember being jealous of the VGA cards in PCs back then already, when owning a new A 1200

@vast634

2 жыл бұрын

@Neb6 Scrolling was only really relevant to sidescrolling games anyways. Mostly due to the specific Amiga Blitter chip. The early 3D PC games looked better on VGA than contemporary Amiga versions. Red Baron 3D was such an example.

If commodore were around today at their rate of innovation the PC and APPLE would both be dead.

I keep saying “ for the masses! Not the classes!”

Still waiting for the Amstrad GX4000 video.

Looking classy Lady Decade

Jack Tramiel left Commodore before they bought Amiga...

" the way of good manners" ha ha so true

I'm gonna stop you right there. There was no 64-bit 68k processor, and I don't think there was a 64-bit PowerPC processor until 1997.

Ah yes, the Floppy Drive for the CD32 was Wall Street Institute badged.

Eddie Hitler? wasnt he in Bottom?

I want a CD 32 I’m that interested in one 😲

...the company is not ended...i just have one that still works,,,,hundred of games and collecting more by a very rentable bussines in internet...

It sounds like the hombre would have suffered from lazy developers. Leaving a Motorola 68000 chip in the system for backwards compatibility would have seen alot of developers porting crappy games onto the system. This is what happened to the Atari Jaguar. Atari left the 6800 chip in as a controller for the Tom and Jerry chips. Unfortunately, lazy developers just used the Motorola chip and didn't even bother to utilize the Tom and Jerry chip. Hence why the Jaguar had such poor games, alot of them ports.

The story of the CD64! 😂😂😂. Was I the only one that heard that?

It wouldn’t have make sense was the amiga 64 ever released, it’s higher price wiould,ve flopped the system anyway it simply just wouldn’t hold a candle against it’s competitors.