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@Until_I_Die Жыл бұрын
As a person who likes to run races dead even or negative splits, I appreciate this explanation. Never fully understood why, but now I do.
@colinmcdonald6003
Жыл бұрын
Tactical races are negative split.
@sampro4888
Жыл бұрын
@@colinmcdonald6003 fax
@enolopanr9820
Жыл бұрын
Watching one of your friends in high school track start in last in the 3200 and end in first is incredible.
@MrNoName7474 Жыл бұрын
I’ve grown to really appreciate tactical races and admire people like mo farah. They’re still fun to watch for me.
@Clift0n
Жыл бұрын
Mo Farah did it right. A lot of people just do it in a boring way tho
@Cain35 Жыл бұрын
Tactical races are only good if they benefit who I want to win 😉
@derekconwaygd Жыл бұрын
holy fuck id never seen that cheserek race before, that was absolutely hilarious i really enjoy a good tactical race because it gives me the same feeling as pack racing in indy or nascar - its like a game of chess being played out at speed. they definitely have their place and as you said, itd be boring if every race was just the same medium pace through to the end. great vid as always!
@jmgonzales7701
10 ай бұрын
I wonder what new varation or innovation can be made for the new innovation can be done for track and field.
@normdeguerre6412 Жыл бұрын
My man drops an "irregardless" at 6:32
@jgt1120 Жыл бұрын
One interesting thing about the 2016 Rio 1500m is that due to a medal ceremony running late the athletes were left in the call room longer than usual and couldn't run. Nobody was fully warmed up when the race started so it didnt go out very hard.
@angledgaze6203 Жыл бұрын
As a dirty end of the race kicker, I appreciate this video. it's quite fun to follow right behind someone for a whole race just to dust them right at the end.
@jmgonzales7701
10 ай бұрын
I wonder what new varation or innovation can be made for the new innovation can be done for track and field.
@maxb4085 Жыл бұрын
That 4xmile looked more like an elimination mile where everyone jogs for the 300m then legs it for the final 100m
@andrewronquillo9752 Жыл бұрын
This channel is extremely underrated
@zachalbanese
Жыл бұрын
ok andrew
@andrewronquillo9752
Жыл бұрын
@@zachalbanese buddy found me in a yt comment section 💀💀💀
@Snookbone
Жыл бұрын
Well done on Liking The Thing
@seasicksteave Жыл бұрын
i’m a cyclist and this is how many of my favorite (classics) races play out. bit different bc of the outsized role of aerodynamics in the cycling vs running, but personally i love this style of racing and find it incredibly tense and exciting
@sugxi
Жыл бұрын
Cycling has a bit more dimension to the tactics though.
@procyclingclips
Жыл бұрын
Yeah running is boring as shit unless they race tactically. Who wants to watch them all run at the same pace for the whole race with no tactics.
@sugxi
Жыл бұрын
@@procyclingclips fax
@jmgonzales7701
10 ай бұрын
@@procyclingclipsI wonder what new varation or innovation can be made for the new innovation can be done for track and field.
@GGmanlife Жыл бұрын
I think tactical races are just fine, but front running from the perspective of a runner is much more exciting personally. You run depending on the fact that you’re going to have given the race everything you possibly have at the end, and for me that’s what distance is all about
@jmgonzales7701
10 ай бұрын
I wonder what new varation or innovation can be made for the new innovation can be done for track and field.
@spencergambrell7819 Жыл бұрын
I feel like the tactical last leg of a relay is a whole other thing. It just doesn't make a lot of sense if you get the baton first, to not use your head start and let everyone catch up. There is also the aspect that if the team had the record in mind, Chez just ruined all the hard work the first 3 legs put in to give him a shot. Then he didn't even win the race.
@englishmuffinpizzas
Ай бұрын
This is very true. It basically just negated the first 3 legs
@nepechri Жыл бұрын
I've been running xc/track for about 5 or so years and the better I get at the sport, the more I appreciate tactical races. Also the more you race, especially when you get better, you get to learn about the thought process, the positioning, and the mental game runners have to play when they're in a race like this, and it really makes watching tactical races interesting. WR's/PR's are fun and all but watching someone like Mo Farah run a tactical masterclass at the 2012 Olympics never gets old.
@raf_dude
Жыл бұрын
Facts
@rook1196
Жыл бұрын
The 2012 olympic 10K was awful. Even the British announcers were dumbfounded that everyone collectively decided to run for 2nd.
@VinylUnboxings Жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure I actually watched the Chez race live from the bleachers. Got his autograph too. Hadn’t thought about it in a minute.
@michaelmacdowall422810 ай бұрын
I really love your content and I would love to see you make a video on some of the best Tactical Races and their significance! With the History and story presented in only the way you know how!
@phillipgrigg5138 Жыл бұрын
Sometimes tactical races can be boring. But as a brit I remember watching Mo kick at the end of that race with all the energy of a home games, as one of the greatest sporting moments I have ever watched
@jmgonzales7701
10 ай бұрын
I wonder what new varation or innovation can be made for the new innovation can be done for track and field.
@erikberg1148 Жыл бұрын
Your boy hugged the rail and loved a good tactical race
@iankelly9213 Жыл бұрын
I did this in a highschool dual meet 3200 against my rival school. The guy's pr was 15 seconds faster than me but was content to run tactical and I was able to out kick him 62 to 65 over the final lap.
@ed_gaa6289 Жыл бұрын
This channel is so amazing
@eternls Жыл бұрын
i love these videos bro
@jaguar18 Жыл бұрын
Every videos a banger.
@michaelkrentzin Жыл бұрын
Great video.
@S7rul Жыл бұрын
Interesting to hear this as a outsider from the cross country skiing world where for our mass starts the tactical racing is a big part. Furthermore in cross country skiing there are no records take seriously mostly because the variety in conditions and track layout which gives the athletes no reason to go for time even for a wr or pr. The only place where they try to ski there fastest race overall is in the individual starts. I also think it it interesting to see the fight between athletes with better endurance compared to those with a higher top speed.
@R4baDader Жыл бұрын
It’s the same strategy as flat courses in grand tour cycling. Your teammates, or even other riders, will conserve energy for the whole race, which is easy to do since you don’t have to deal with a climb. When you approach the end, you all pick up the pace slightly, and then about 600 or more meters to the end, someone tries to go for a sprint, and then it’s down to positioning and reaction time to get the win at that point. There’s also the breakaway, where a small group of riders breaks away early from the peloton in order to build up a lead at the cost of energy for the final sprint. These are more typical in climbing or mixed stages, where a final group sprint isn’t liable to hapoen
@Tacoboy2576 ай бұрын
1:14 I like how there was a goofy surge and then turning on the brakes again?
@makaijovan6677 Жыл бұрын
Am just imagining how eliud or Joshua would destroy lungs if they participated
@DarthBane-zf8wv Жыл бұрын
This is how professional cycling works. There's a finess and beauty to it. If you cannot win the sprint, gotta attack earlier.
@jmgonzales7701
10 ай бұрын
I wonder what new varation or innovation can be made for the new innovation can be done for track and field.
@BlueWaterTeno Жыл бұрын
Prefontaine was right. Sandbagging is boring and disrespectful.
@gummy5862
Жыл бұрын
Depends. For someone like me who was pretty good at endurance but had little speed, I hated sandbaggers lol. I can’t deny how fun it is to watch the end of a tactical race though.
@adrianriverapr6288
Жыл бұрын
Disagree. To much of anything is bad in this case running always for time
@Snookbone
Жыл бұрын
@@adrianriverapr6288 too
@yesno9374
Жыл бұрын
Nah dude
@BeanyDG
Жыл бұрын
@@gummy5862 the only tactical race that should exist is the elimination mile or 2 mile lmao
@pratikkore7947 Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see how this plays out if they're allowed to have rear view mirrors during the race
@cearo976 Жыл бұрын
Good vid
@happybunzz2511 Жыл бұрын
In my opinion, if you don’t like watching a race coming down to a sit and kick, then go watch sprints lmao long distance is a mental game
@Notnotcam Жыл бұрын
Amazing fucking content again!
@BaconandPotatoes Жыл бұрын
@RunnerBoi wow what race is that at 9:28 ? Some 8k?
@tyler5246 Жыл бұрын
This is pretty much how bike racing works, except that drafting makes tactics much more important
@amyx231 Жыл бұрын
I’ve got a 17 min mile right now. I’d love a 7 min mile jog speed
@jackfruin7946 Жыл бұрын
Weird question, but why do they have the track barriers out in lane 4? Wouldn't that make them run longer?
@jacknisbet3954
Жыл бұрын
The Penn Relays track is odd; lane 1 of that track is less than 400m, and lane 4 is 400m.
@jackfruin7946
Жыл бұрын
@@jacknisbet3954 thank you, i was a bit confused
@DM-yj9qf Жыл бұрын
winning isn't the most important thing. it's the only thing.
@zylviij Жыл бұрын
wait what do you mean by the description? Obviously, "run slow to run fast" isn't great for PBing in a race, but isn't the term meant to be about training plans?
@connorfletcher5201
Жыл бұрын
if you sit and kick the front runners then you have run faster by kind of running slower during the race
@Shunised Жыл бұрын
Wow...
@christopherhamill525 Жыл бұрын
Had only just looked up the Penn mile 2 days ago to have a good laugh at. Absolute joke of a race, I’m fine with tactical but not what happened there.
@mgbatres Жыл бұрын
What annoys me about tactical races is the fact that most of the time these athletes are not self aware when the best time for them to administer their final sprint. Waiting for others to make a move is not smart. These runners should know what sprint distance best suites them. But they don’t. Except centro, he made the move when it needed to be made. RIO 2016 1500 - awesome race.
@horizontrackclub Жыл бұрын
2:30 watch that tactical race on our channel🔥 sick vid
@palonso1609 Жыл бұрын
Alright
@Jeremiahgardner11 Жыл бұрын
Ches was the king of sit and kick
@gummy5862
Жыл бұрын
It’s fine when it’s an individual event, but it’s so disrespectful to your teammates in a 4xmile when you’ve seen that they all ran a low 4. Not only did he break their chances of getting that relay best, he lost them the race.
@daveinacave Жыл бұрын
Why run hard when run easy and still win?
@lorenzoquirante8685 Жыл бұрын
Why do you hate the saying good for the sport?
@VinylUnboxings
Жыл бұрын
His ex was named Gudfordah Spord. She broke his heart. It’s still tough for him to have to think about.
@isovideo7497 Жыл бұрын
Running a tactical relay is stupid - the winning time is the sum of the individual times, so tactically winning a leg does NOT mean the team will win. It only makes sense for individual races, or for the last leg.
@jmgonzales7701
10 ай бұрын
I wonder what new varation or innovation can be made for the new innovation can be done for track and field.
@aljon5947 Жыл бұрын
Just watch cycling then.
@johnm725 Жыл бұрын
irregardless isn't a word. Regardless, tactical races are not interesting it seems.
@jmgonzales7701
10 ай бұрын
I wonder what new varation or innovation can be made for the new innovation can be done for track and field.
Пікірлер: 85
As a person who likes to run races dead even or negative splits, I appreciate this explanation. Never fully understood why, but now I do.
@colinmcdonald6003
Жыл бұрын
Tactical races are negative split.
@sampro4888
Жыл бұрын
@@colinmcdonald6003 fax
@enolopanr9820
Жыл бұрын
Watching one of your friends in high school track start in last in the 3200 and end in first is incredible.
I’ve grown to really appreciate tactical races and admire people like mo farah. They’re still fun to watch for me.
@Clift0n
Жыл бұрын
Mo Farah did it right. A lot of people just do it in a boring way tho
Tactical races are only good if they benefit who I want to win 😉
holy fuck id never seen that cheserek race before, that was absolutely hilarious i really enjoy a good tactical race because it gives me the same feeling as pack racing in indy or nascar - its like a game of chess being played out at speed. they definitely have their place and as you said, itd be boring if every race was just the same medium pace through to the end. great vid as always!
@jmgonzales7701
10 ай бұрын
I wonder what new varation or innovation can be made for the new innovation can be done for track and field.
My man drops an "irregardless" at 6:32
One interesting thing about the 2016 Rio 1500m is that due to a medal ceremony running late the athletes were left in the call room longer than usual and couldn't run. Nobody was fully warmed up when the race started so it didnt go out very hard.
As a dirty end of the race kicker, I appreciate this video. it's quite fun to follow right behind someone for a whole race just to dust them right at the end.
@jmgonzales7701
10 ай бұрын
I wonder what new varation or innovation can be made for the new innovation can be done for track and field.
That 4xmile looked more like an elimination mile where everyone jogs for the 300m then legs it for the final 100m
This channel is extremely underrated
@zachalbanese
Жыл бұрын
ok andrew
@andrewronquillo9752
Жыл бұрын
@@zachalbanese buddy found me in a yt comment section 💀💀💀
@Snookbone
Жыл бұрын
Well done on Liking The Thing
i’m a cyclist and this is how many of my favorite (classics) races play out. bit different bc of the outsized role of aerodynamics in the cycling vs running, but personally i love this style of racing and find it incredibly tense and exciting
@sugxi
Жыл бұрын
Cycling has a bit more dimension to the tactics though.
@procyclingclips
Жыл бұрын
Yeah running is boring as shit unless they race tactically. Who wants to watch them all run at the same pace for the whole race with no tactics.
@sugxi
Жыл бұрын
@@procyclingclips fax
@jmgonzales7701
10 ай бұрын
@@procyclingclipsI wonder what new varation or innovation can be made for the new innovation can be done for track and field.
I think tactical races are just fine, but front running from the perspective of a runner is much more exciting personally. You run depending on the fact that you’re going to have given the race everything you possibly have at the end, and for me that’s what distance is all about
@jmgonzales7701
10 ай бұрын
I wonder what new varation or innovation can be made for the new innovation can be done for track and field.
I feel like the tactical last leg of a relay is a whole other thing. It just doesn't make a lot of sense if you get the baton first, to not use your head start and let everyone catch up. There is also the aspect that if the team had the record in mind, Chez just ruined all the hard work the first 3 legs put in to give him a shot. Then he didn't even win the race.
@englishmuffinpizzas
Ай бұрын
This is very true. It basically just negated the first 3 legs
I've been running xc/track for about 5 or so years and the better I get at the sport, the more I appreciate tactical races. Also the more you race, especially when you get better, you get to learn about the thought process, the positioning, and the mental game runners have to play when they're in a race like this, and it really makes watching tactical races interesting. WR's/PR's are fun and all but watching someone like Mo Farah run a tactical masterclass at the 2012 Olympics never gets old.
@raf_dude
Жыл бұрын
Facts
@rook1196
Жыл бұрын
The 2012 olympic 10K was awful. Even the British announcers were dumbfounded that everyone collectively decided to run for 2nd.
I’m pretty sure I actually watched the Chez race live from the bleachers. Got his autograph too. Hadn’t thought about it in a minute.
I really love your content and I would love to see you make a video on some of the best Tactical Races and their significance! With the History and story presented in only the way you know how!
Sometimes tactical races can be boring. But as a brit I remember watching Mo kick at the end of that race with all the energy of a home games, as one of the greatest sporting moments I have ever watched
@jmgonzales7701
10 ай бұрын
I wonder what new varation or innovation can be made for the new innovation can be done for track and field.
Your boy hugged the rail and loved a good tactical race
I did this in a highschool dual meet 3200 against my rival school. The guy's pr was 15 seconds faster than me but was content to run tactical and I was able to out kick him 62 to 65 over the final lap.
This channel is so amazing
i love these videos bro
Every videos a banger.
Great video.
Interesting to hear this as a outsider from the cross country skiing world where for our mass starts the tactical racing is a big part. Furthermore in cross country skiing there are no records take seriously mostly because the variety in conditions and track layout which gives the athletes no reason to go for time even for a wr or pr. The only place where they try to ski there fastest race overall is in the individual starts. I also think it it interesting to see the fight between athletes with better endurance compared to those with a higher top speed.
It’s the same strategy as flat courses in grand tour cycling. Your teammates, or even other riders, will conserve energy for the whole race, which is easy to do since you don’t have to deal with a climb. When you approach the end, you all pick up the pace slightly, and then about 600 or more meters to the end, someone tries to go for a sprint, and then it’s down to positioning and reaction time to get the win at that point. There’s also the breakaway, where a small group of riders breaks away early from the peloton in order to build up a lead at the cost of energy for the final sprint. These are more typical in climbing or mixed stages, where a final group sprint isn’t liable to hapoen
1:14 I like how there was a goofy surge and then turning on the brakes again?
Am just imagining how eliud or Joshua would destroy lungs if they participated
This is how professional cycling works. There's a finess and beauty to it. If you cannot win the sprint, gotta attack earlier.
@jmgonzales7701
10 ай бұрын
I wonder what new varation or innovation can be made for the new innovation can be done for track and field.
Prefontaine was right. Sandbagging is boring and disrespectful.
@gummy5862
Жыл бұрын
Depends. For someone like me who was pretty good at endurance but had little speed, I hated sandbaggers lol. I can’t deny how fun it is to watch the end of a tactical race though.
@adrianriverapr6288
Жыл бұрын
Disagree. To much of anything is bad in this case running always for time
@Snookbone
Жыл бұрын
@@adrianriverapr6288 too
@yesno9374
Жыл бұрын
Nah dude
@BeanyDG
Жыл бұрын
@@gummy5862 the only tactical race that should exist is the elimination mile or 2 mile lmao
I'd love to see how this plays out if they're allowed to have rear view mirrors during the race
Good vid
In my opinion, if you don’t like watching a race coming down to a sit and kick, then go watch sprints lmao long distance is a mental game
Amazing fucking content again!
@RunnerBoi wow what race is that at 9:28 ? Some 8k?
This is pretty much how bike racing works, except that drafting makes tactics much more important
I’ve got a 17 min mile right now. I’d love a 7 min mile jog speed
Weird question, but why do they have the track barriers out in lane 4? Wouldn't that make them run longer?
@jacknisbet3954
Жыл бұрын
The Penn Relays track is odd; lane 1 of that track is less than 400m, and lane 4 is 400m.
@jackfruin7946
Жыл бұрын
@@jacknisbet3954 thank you, i was a bit confused
winning isn't the most important thing. it's the only thing.
wait what do you mean by the description? Obviously, "run slow to run fast" isn't great for PBing in a race, but isn't the term meant to be about training plans?
@connorfletcher5201
Жыл бұрын
if you sit and kick the front runners then you have run faster by kind of running slower during the race
Wow...
Had only just looked up the Penn mile 2 days ago to have a good laugh at. Absolute joke of a race, I’m fine with tactical but not what happened there.
What annoys me about tactical races is the fact that most of the time these athletes are not self aware when the best time for them to administer their final sprint. Waiting for others to make a move is not smart. These runners should know what sprint distance best suites them. But they don’t. Except centro, he made the move when it needed to be made. RIO 2016 1500 - awesome race.
2:30 watch that tactical race on our channel🔥 sick vid
Alright
Ches was the king of sit and kick
@gummy5862
Жыл бұрын
It’s fine when it’s an individual event, but it’s so disrespectful to your teammates in a 4xmile when you’ve seen that they all ran a low 4. Not only did he break their chances of getting that relay best, he lost them the race.
Why run hard when run easy and still win?
Why do you hate the saying good for the sport?
@VinylUnboxings
Жыл бұрын
His ex was named Gudfordah Spord. She broke his heart. It’s still tough for him to have to think about.
Running a tactical relay is stupid - the winning time is the sum of the individual times, so tactically winning a leg does NOT mean the team will win. It only makes sense for individual races, or for the last leg.
@jmgonzales7701
10 ай бұрын
I wonder what new varation or innovation can be made for the new innovation can be done for track and field.
Just watch cycling then.
irregardless isn't a word. Regardless, tactical races are not interesting it seems.
@jmgonzales7701
10 ай бұрын
I wonder what new varation or innovation can be made for the new innovation can be done for track and field.
First
I disagree with this entire video.
@jmgonzales7701
10 ай бұрын
Why