The Lofi Magic of VHS Audio

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  • @JCHaywire
    @JCHaywire Жыл бұрын

    There was a guy in Manchester, Iowa who recorded everything. Every phone call, much of the four TV channels available in that area, and endless ephemera. Before computer audio compression, he would record on a C.Crane quarter-speed cassette recorder onto 120 minute tapes (that's 8 hours). He would then transfer these to a single track of stereo VHS tapes at a time in SLP mode, recording on the other stereo track on a second pass. He did this from late in the 1970's to his death in 2015, archiving these tapes on cataloged shelves in two houses he owned on a quiet side street. When he departed, nobody really knew what these tapes were or how to play them back, so they were piled into a huge construction dumpster and taken to the landfill. This is the same guy who designed the first Braille star map and had memorized the names of 3,000 stars visible to the naked eye in the night sky. Lots of flutter and a rather extreme low-pass filtering effect notwithstanding--the results were surprisingly audible. I was able to rescue somewhat less than a thousand of these cassettes, but the logistics of digitizing them was nearly too much for any normal person to undertake.

  • @maxx6095

    @maxx6095

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for saving some of his work ! Anywhere we can listen ?

  • @Operationalexcellence263

    @Operationalexcellence263

    Жыл бұрын

    I seem to recall this story. Thank you for returning this to memory.

  • @thevoidinclusive

    @thevoidinclusive

    Жыл бұрын

    Wow. I’d love to read more about this and hear some tapes!

  • @skonenblades

    @skonenblades

    Жыл бұрын

    That also reminds me of Marion Stokes project. There was a movie about it in 2019 in called Recorder. She recorded unbroken streams of all the channels on her television, 24 hours a day, for 35 years from 1977 to 2012. That ended up in 71,000 VHS and Betamax tapes. As I understand it, they're currently being digitized.

  • @Tfor2show

    @Tfor2show

    Жыл бұрын

    Whoa! I grew up in Worthington and passed through Manchester all the time growing up! I'd be thrilled to help digitize some of the tapes if you still have them!

  • @kyaMega
    @kyaMega Жыл бұрын

    In my college years, I ran a low-budget 4-track recording studio out of my parent's house. My dad happened to have a Sony Betamax HiFi VCR, and I mastered to that. It was very close to digital quality. Even all these years later I transferred some of that audio to my computer and it holds up. Amazing tech for it's day.

  • @terryenglish7132

    @terryenglish7132

    Жыл бұрын

    A sound man friend bought one for a similar reason when they first came out. It is interesting that because they were video, most high end audio enthusiasts never considered one instead of a Nagra etc.

  • @cjbani159

    @cjbani159

    6 ай бұрын

    I mastered to a VHS Hi-Fi deck for a time, but at SP, which I'm a little surprised David didn't address. It was cleaner and more colorless than my analog open reel deck ~

  • @rasmusn.e.m1064
    @rasmusn.e.m1064 Жыл бұрын

    As someone who isn't a tech geek, you do an amazing job at suggesting what you mean by your magic words with your camera work on the open VCR. What many languages use dozens of words to convey, you simply achieve by adding a subtle zoom or tilt of the camera.

  • @earljohnson8851

    @earljohnson8851

    Жыл бұрын

    i’m so happy you found it authentic 😅😅😅😮😅😅 10:26 hours in and

  • @AndySalinger33

    @AndySalinger33

    Жыл бұрын

    Ratioed much?

  • @rasmusn.e.m1064

    @rasmusn.e.m1064

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AndySalinger33 what do you mean?

  • @duff3lB4g

    @duff3lB4g

    Жыл бұрын

    @@rasmusn.e.m1064 he's talking about the bot

  • @RockinEnabled

    @RockinEnabled

    Жыл бұрын

    Well, the author DOES seem a tech geek. In a good way, of course :)

  • @gibsonfan159
    @gibsonfan1597 ай бұрын

    That "subtle chorus effect" of double tracking is what Randy Rhoads did for his solos. Really broadens the soundscape.

  • @falkhammermuller9342
    @falkhammermuller9342 Жыл бұрын

    I have never in my life done anything remotely with music publishing or just creation. Let alone the usage of a digital synth software, that allows for the creation of crazy sounds like these. And truth be told, I'm 42, I'm probably never going to be involved in this business. And yet, I enjoy these videos about the creation of these samples enormously. It's very satisfying to see this happen.

  • @themadsamplist

    @themadsamplist

    Жыл бұрын

    You can do it just for fun. You don't have to be in the business. Age is not important.

  • @falkhammermuller9342

    @falkhammermuller9342

    Жыл бұрын

    @@themadsamplist well, I'm not the kind of guy who doesn't get life done because of age, am involved in too many projects of a completely different field. I don't think I'll ever venture in the music business, since my network and life sourounds a different aspects of life. But again, I really appreciate your content and my son plays in an Orchester, maybe he'll have something to do work synth work in the future, I'll recommend your software.

  • @JasonKutchma

    @JasonKutchma

    Жыл бұрын

    I have a few friends who started at 40 and are now making a living from music. If you put in the time you can do anything my friend. Just decide to :)

  • @falkhammermuller9342

    @falkhammermuller9342

    Жыл бұрын

    @@JasonKutchma you didn't read my second response, right?

  • @showbread9366

    @showbread9366

    Жыл бұрын

    Wonderful story

  • @sunriseshell
    @sunriseshell Жыл бұрын

    I used to make just audio tapes on a Hi-Fi VCR. It was pretty good, better than cassette tapes and MUCH longer. Was a great way to have music playing for a long time without intervention.

  • @weaktearecords

    @weaktearecords

    Жыл бұрын

    Same here, they were a lifesaver when you couldn't afford anything else and 2 hours of good quality was awesome!

  • @badbeardbill9956

    @badbeardbill9956

    Жыл бұрын

    I wonder if any consumer “portastudio” like thing used VCR tech, probably not but could be cool

  • @Christian6.1803

    @Christian6.1803

    Жыл бұрын

    Same. It was cheaper than 1/4 for my little cassette 4track mixdowns.

  • @therealpbristow

    @therealpbristow

    Жыл бұрын

    @@badbeardbill9956 There was an 8-track system based around VHS tapes, yes! We used one for a few years to record music at Filk conventions in the UK. There were also some early digital audio recorders that used VHS tapes to record 14-bit or 16-bit stereo audio. A whole load of classical music CDs were originally recorded on that system, back in the late 1980s/early '90s, as the system was very portable and could be taken to, say, a particular church to record the organ there, etc.

  • @cebruthius

    @cebruthius

    Жыл бұрын

    @@therealpbristow Techmoan has some videos on digital audio on VHS

  • @SoundAuthor
    @SoundAuthor Жыл бұрын

    Of all of the tape sounds, I think VHS might be the most nostalgia-inducing. I grew up tolerating that warbly audio. And now we're going out of our way to implement that characteristic.

  • @marklechman2225
    @marklechman2225 Жыл бұрын

    Back in the early 90s, I used to master all of my 4-track cassette recordings onto VHS HiFi. Worked great for the most part.

  • @LongPeter
    @LongPeter Жыл бұрын

    I recall Techmoan saying that a HiFi stereo VHS tapes on long play used to be THE way to prepare a 6-8 hour playlist for a party, without having to micromanage it the whole time.

  • @nobodynoone2500

    @nobodynoone2500

    Жыл бұрын

    Can confirm. Although more often used to record 8 hours of live dj sets in the 90s, than the other way around.

  • @themanfromvolantis

    @themanfromvolantis

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm an audio micromanager. Sounds more impressive on a CV than im a DJ lol

  • @KewAnneOn

    @KewAnneOn

    Жыл бұрын

    I've done this before for a couple of house parties. Worked a treat 👍🏻

  • @vdgjolly
    @vdgjolly Жыл бұрын

    Watching and listening to your videos creates a "feeling like home" atmosphere.

  • @JSSMVCJR2.1

    @JSSMVCJR2.1

    Жыл бұрын

    In a Boards of Canada way.

  • @VintageModernRemixes
    @VintageModernRemixes Жыл бұрын

    How perfect for you to choose the infamous black Scotch VHS box for this video. That is the quintessential VHS to me, on display in almost everyone's living room. The colorful sun is always eye catching. Great video.

  • @Turrican
    @Turrican Жыл бұрын

    I worked in a big insurance call centre in the UK in the 1990s and all of our calls (literlly thousands of hours per week) were all recorded on VHS tapes, they could hold sometime like 12 hours of calls per cassette so they were quite an efficient and effective way of storing / retrieving audio. I forget who supplied the infrastructure now it might have been a US company called Cable and Wireless. Just a random memory this video brought up ! 😃

  • @DavidHilowitzMusic

    @DavidHilowitzMusic

    Жыл бұрын

    that is so cool! i love nonstandard uses for technology

  • @JCHaywire

    @JCHaywire

    Жыл бұрын

    As per my comment above--apparently this was a widely used method of low-fidelity ephemeral audio storage.

  • @pharaohsmagician8329

    @pharaohsmagician8329

    Ай бұрын

    Cool! I work in alot of Call Centers now, mostly in Sales. I'm pretty good at my job but I want to get better. Are there any pro tips for Call Center work that you can pass along especially those secret knowledge from the past??

  • @3Cr15w311
    @3Cr15w311 Жыл бұрын

    I used a VHS HiFi machine as an audio recorder in addition to video in 1987 and it was so good, even on EP, that it sounded really close to a CD in quality.

  • @lesfuller5984
    @lesfuller5984 Жыл бұрын

    Congratulations to you and Cameron on an outstanding library! 👏🙌 Will try out the free version tomorrow, but this is a definite buy! In the first few minutes I thought, “Boards of Canada”, and I was sold!

  • @JSSMVCJR2.1

    @JSSMVCJR2.1

    Жыл бұрын

    All of this is very inspired by Boards of Canada, indeed.

  • @philmarsh5593
    @philmarsh5593 Жыл бұрын

    You and Cameron are 2 of very few YTers I watch regularly. Very cool that you got your (recording and playback) heads together on this one!

  • @stubarnes1965
    @stubarnes1965 Жыл бұрын

    Budget VHS decks very seldom had hifi stereo heads. If a system is marked 4 head, the second pair is used primarily to produce cleaner pause and forward scan. Hifi VHS tended to be on the higher end decks so more usually had 6 heads, 4 for video and a pair for audio. The audio had a very wide and flat 20-20000 Hz frequency response. On a good quality of deck it was pretty much the best audio quality recording medium available outside of a studio at that time.

  • @MVVblog

    @MVVblog

    8 ай бұрын

    It's true, Hi-Fi VHS recorders were top of the line and had 6 heads. Those produced later in the '90s and early 2000s were just a pale shadow of the true VCRs from the previous decade. However, even a piece of junk like this Quazar has had its moment of glory today.

  • @davidsotomayor8713
    @davidsotomayor8713 Жыл бұрын

    For audio you want to find a VHS player that specifically says "VHS Hi-Fi" on it. They are capable of quite high quality recording and can record 4 tracks diagonally across the tape instead of using the standard audio track like is found on a typical video VHS. The tapes degraded too quickly to have ever made them really practical in the pro market, and their inputs/outputs were usually far from ideal but you can still do some neat stuff with them.

  • @badbeardbill9956

    @badbeardbill9956

    Жыл бұрын

    I wonder if a cracked multiplex audio head assembly could have done multitracking on professional tape, and how it would sound. Probably too crazy to ever be used outside of experiment, but could be interesting if it actually has decent quality… not VHS technology but using a similar idea as the quadruplex video head

  • @DarkGloComics

    @DarkGloComics

    Жыл бұрын

    Essentially a four track recorder. I appreciate the work they did, but how could anyone think that four tracks exist, and somehow, VHS couldn’t do this simple task? 🤷🏽‍♂️ I used cheap VHS tapes to multitrack record using ADAT machines all the time when I couldn’t afford ADAT tapes. (LA 97-99)

  • @urbanrunoff

    @urbanrunoff

    Жыл бұрын

    yes. i bought a top of the line Hifi VHS in the mid 90's to duplicate my demo tapes (film/video editing)i was never happy with the video quality but the audio was great :D

  • @Luap-ls3ix
    @Luap-ls3ix Жыл бұрын

    The top down view with the top off the VCR is a lovely subtle touch to this video that will mostly go unnoticed. I would binge VHS tapes as a kid (especially Disney). These videos you an Venus Theory made was a real blast from the past. Great work as always 👊🏼

  • @raulacevedo-esteves9493
    @raulacevedo-esteves949310 ай бұрын

    You got me at 70's educational videos. That touches my childhood memories.

  • @elishmeeli017
    @elishmeeli017 Жыл бұрын

    I love every video you make and use Decent Sampler super often. Please keep this up

  • @ackamack101
    @ackamack10110 ай бұрын

    I was in college in the early to mid 90s and I remember a music professor telling our class that we didn't know how good a VHS could be for recording audio. I was intrigued by the notion but never looked into doing any audio recording with VHS myself. This is the first time I have seen this process in action- almost 30 years later! I love the sounds you came up with by the end of this video. It sounds so 80s to me in the best of ways! It reminds me of a video company's logo that would appear at the beginning of a pre-recorded video. Thank you for making me retrieve a memory that I had long forgotten about.

  • @rumplebigdin
    @rumplebigdin Жыл бұрын

    FYI (if it hasn’t been said) there’s a song on “the fish that saved Pittsburgh” that was sampled as the main horn on Lords of the Underground’s “funky child”.

  • @elusivefrog
    @elusivefrog Жыл бұрын

    this is absolutely my favorite sample pack you’ve compiled. the sounds are all incredible!

  • @johnpooperton
    @johnpooperton Жыл бұрын

    Took me back to 1999 where I was searching for high grade tapes so I could record the metal channels on Music Choice overnight and then hook my cassette tape recorder up the next day and go through and transfer the songs I liked.

  • @FlyingShotsman
    @FlyingShotsman Жыл бұрын

    My father is a huge fan of Jazz and Big Band music. There was a local station when I was growing up that ran a one-hour show on Saturday afternoons playing lots of music that he liked. He used to record the show to his late-60s reel-to-reel deck, then transfer songs -- minus ads and DJ blather -- to cassette for playback in his car. When his reel-to-reel deck finally died, he began using the VCR instead. It had the advantage that he could program it to record at the appointed hour, freeing him (and the rest of the family!) to do other things on Saturday afternoons. It worked like a charm, and he claimed that the quality was as good or better than the reel-to-reel deck. I hadn't thought about that in years...

  • @LearsGhost
    @LearsGhost Жыл бұрын

    In the days before stand alone digital recorders this is what we would use to capture rehearsals. Just ran the tape out of the Mackie mixer into it, and set it to EP mode. We even recorded a few bands live records this way using SP mode instead.

  • @TheRedStarman
    @TheRedStarman Жыл бұрын

    I knew what to expect simply because I've read and reread the Wikipedia pages on pretty much every popular format of tape media, but I am still blown away by how clear it sounded. I wonder how much of our nostalgia for these lo-fi sounds actually came from the perhaps more rudimentary quality or the wear and tear of the built-in speakers we had in our TVs and audio devices. I grew up watching TV, VHS movies, and playing video games on a small Panasonic TV from the early 90s, and this was in the early 00s. 10-15 years of being the daily driver surely took its toll on all of those components. I'll miss you, little black Panasonic.

  • @thenowereman6730
    @thenowereman6730 Жыл бұрын

    2:37 thanks David, now we know how they did the regular show intro theme !

  • @jondellar
    @jondellar Жыл бұрын

    Oh wow, my two favourite KZread musicians collaborating! That’s great news. And thank you for the video; the sound you realised does indeed sound warm and easy on the ear.

  • @clarkeflippo9004
    @clarkeflippo900410 ай бұрын

    Fascinating and masterfully produced. As an audio/video producer and child of the 80s, this was Reading Rainbow level comforting.

  • @toastermonkey7511
    @toastermonkey7511 Жыл бұрын

    your music and videos are so incredibly warm and comfortably captivating in a way i really cannot describe

  • @HughBurgessSinger
    @HughBurgessSinger Жыл бұрын

    When I saw the VHS I immediately could smell the plastic and that hot feel those tapes used to give off after playing. Thanks for the nostalgia!

  • @Digital_Spliff
    @Digital_Spliff Жыл бұрын

    This could not have come at a more perfect time. I'm working on producing content shot on VHS, and these samples are absolutely perfect for the score. I purchased it before this video was even released. It's awesome!

  • @andrewbogner
    @andrewbogner Жыл бұрын

    in 1997 I used a Sony Hifi stereo VHS recorder/player to mix down all my songs for a CD I was working on. when I brought it to the mastering engineer, he was very skeptical at first, but soon realized how good the sound quality was.

  • @beetooex

    @beetooex

    Жыл бұрын

    I was looking for this comment. All the guides for bedroom studio type recording used to say this was the best way to master. Was your initial recording/mixing done on a 4 track cassette portastudio? Did you bounce tracks temporarily to the VHS when you ran out of channels?

  • @andrewbogner

    @andrewbogner

    Жыл бұрын

    @@beetooex Hi beetooex, I used a fostex model 80 8 track reel to reel tape recorder w/ a mackie 1402 vlz mixer. all my final mixes went to my sony hifi vhs recorder/player. I never bounced out tracks to the vhs, just mastered to it.

  • @KINZOisHERE
    @KINZOisHERE Жыл бұрын

    what a heartwarming work you've done, aside from the beautiful result, the process was already a treat. thanks again for that colorful palette you've been creating.

  • @WritingOnGames
    @WritingOnGames Жыл бұрын

    The sample library is so good! Could play about with it all day, really inspiring stuff. Thanks for making it!

  • @T.A.P.O.
    @T.A.P.O. Жыл бұрын

    if lofi was a person, i'd be deep in love

  • @therealwhite

    @therealwhite

    Жыл бұрын

    Now I'm going to have to Google Fi

  • @JSSMVCJR2.1

    @JSSMVCJR2.1

    Жыл бұрын

    I just got the idea of you and Lo-Fi having a Family.

  • @hennydarmse

    @hennydarmse

    Жыл бұрын

    The equivalent is probably an older person!

  • @JSSMVCJR2.1

    @JSSMVCJR2.1

    Жыл бұрын

    @@hennydarmse But not old enough. That would be an Eldely Citizen, and that's not *A E S T H E T I C*

  • @CLOYO

    @CLOYO

    Жыл бұрын

    @@therealwhite Hello this is Patrick. Fi means Fidelity. Google Patrick out.

  • @Muzikman127
    @Muzikman127 Жыл бұрын

    I'm so excited to watch this! I have always been entranced by the unmistakable but seemingly irreplicable chorussy warbling of vhs audio! Obsessed ever since I was a kid and you would hear chewed up strings and warbling pianos on well-worn videos played on tired classroom players haha

  • @BadDiode
    @BadDiode Жыл бұрын

    One of your best! Loved the overhead shots of the naked VHS and how informative it was, historical perspective and all.

  • @thomparkin1999
    @thomparkin1999 Жыл бұрын

    your videos always brighten my day, thanks David

  • @brainjellyTV
    @brainjellyTV Жыл бұрын

    I used to mix my 4 track demos into VHS tapes, they sounded great! Hi-fi and four heads went a long way

  • @mikethebloodthirsty

    @mikethebloodthirsty

    Жыл бұрын

    I wish I'd have known about that... I did record music on s VHS and remember thinking how good it sounded, but never thought to master on to one. Back in the day you had to find out for yourself almost.

  • @brainjellyTV

    @brainjellyTV

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mikethebloodthirsty and btw it was analog

  • @tannernelson
    @tannernelson Жыл бұрын

    I love writing lofi, never considered using vcr. I have to try it some time.

  • @DavidHilowitzMusic

    @DavidHilowitzMusic

    Жыл бұрын

    It's really fun! Make sure that you get one that does not have "Hi-Fi Stereo" because that...sounds too good. :)

  • @billypilgrim1

    @billypilgrim1

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DavidHilowitzMusic You mean the tapes or the actual VHS recorder?

  • @creamyhummus
    @creamyhummus Жыл бұрын

    The quality of your content always astounds me. So cozy and entertaining.

  • @CeresOutpost
    @CeresOutpost10 ай бұрын

    In the late 80's my friends and I would DJ our high school and private events. We would often grab brand new music that we couldn't buy yet from MTV via VHS recording, then play them back at dances and such. We weren't thinking much about fidelity, because tape was the air we breathed back then. The sound was always great for pumping through high end amps and loudspeakers. Little did we know how edgy we were. :P Excellent video - I love experiments like this!

  • @LR-jo7ci
    @LR-jo7ci Жыл бұрын

    I have t picked up an instrument in a decade, and I’ve never tried working with synths, but damn I think I might look into it as a hobby. I’m already in a different creative field so I don’t have a lot of money to put into this hobby as my craft also requires a lot of funds, but synths as well as creating arrangements really grows on me as a hobby I’d love to pick up little by little over time. I’m glad I found your channel ❤

  • @kaitlyn__L

    @kaitlyn__L

    Жыл бұрын

    There’s free software instruments and free DAWs you can use to get started at no additional cost with your existing computer :) I hope you take a look into it! Music is an important part of human expression

  • @LR-jo7ci

    @LR-jo7ci

    Жыл бұрын

    @@kaitlyn__L thanks ! I’ll look into it

  • @rwmorey71
    @rwmorey71 Жыл бұрын

    Alesis made an 8 track "digital" recorder that used VHS tapes as the media.

  • @delta-9969

    @delta-9969

    3 ай бұрын

    ADAT was digital.

  • @billydotcom9612
    @billydotcom9612 Жыл бұрын

    Amazing as always. Some of my favorite content on YT. Thank you for your time.

  • @eleanorgiovanni
    @eleanorgiovanni Жыл бұрын

    It sounds so beautiful, great work!

  • @thiagocursinomusic
    @thiagocursinomusic Жыл бұрын

    Some years ago I got a vhs player with lots of tapes, and it impressed me the quality of the sound. Not only the audio quality was great but the mixing was also superior to modern stuff.

  • @ryanjacobson2508

    @ryanjacobson2508

    Жыл бұрын

    Audio mixing on 80's/early 90's home video was very well done. At some point standards started slipping (I would assume due to budget cuts/tighter deadlines for the home video divisions of the studios).

  • @sjgrall
    @sjgrall Жыл бұрын

    I definitely used my VCR as a child to record audio. Hi-Fi VCRs had really good audio quality, similar fidelity to CD at SP speed, despite being analog.

  • @althejazzman

    @althejazzman

    Жыл бұрын

    It wasn't just analog though. VHS Hi-Fi Stereo was FM encoded underneath the video signal, so it wasn't bound by the frequency restrictions of tape head gaps like linear audio tape. It was more like an FM Stereo radio broadcast.

  • @b.r.e.t.t.s.a.n.d.l.e.r
    @b.r.e.t.t.s.a.n.d.l.e.r Жыл бұрын

    Smiled when I saw this video pop up in my feed. Thank you for the thoughtful content.

  • @dubmusik304
    @dubmusik304 Жыл бұрын

    I definitely plan on using a VCR in this way, but I picked up the library because of the work you both put into this. Thank you!

  • @SPOD_ZONE
    @SPOD_ZONE Жыл бұрын

    Lots of people have mastered to Super VHS over the years. Sounds great.

  • @nickbirkby2521
    @nickbirkby2521 Жыл бұрын

    The vcrs labelled HIFI from the early- mid 90s record really well. Try and find one with manual record gain control. I recorded some Lps and it was almost impossible to distinguish between the source and the recording. They used to call it poor man's DAT. :)

  • @samuelcasale
    @samuelcasale11 ай бұрын

    Your videos are just so perfect, David. Great storytelling, visuals, ideas. You're an amazing content creator. Please keep going.

  • @joesanpatricio794
    @joesanpatricio7946 ай бұрын

    I love that you share the process of creating these samples and then make them available for people to use. The VCR sound is very nostalgic for me 💛

  • @lordmikethegreat
    @lordmikethegreat Жыл бұрын

    "The Fish that Saved Pittsburgh" is my friend's favorite movie of all time! I know you touched on the capabilities of VHS HiFi, but it is important to note that the HiFI VHS has incredible sound quality... it's comparable to CD, and many people say it's even better since it is still analog. There is also no tape noise. I used to use HiFi VHS to master my recordings, and some people still do as it's as good as any reel-to-reel recording out there.

  • @alicev1500

    @alicev1500

    Жыл бұрын

    Is it still easy to get blank tapes? Or do you overwrite other tapes?

  • @Youtube.Commen-tater

    @Youtube.Commen-tater

    Жыл бұрын

    @@alicev1500 I'd say it's pretty easy to find them at thrift stores and various other second hand shops, they were mass produced for like thirty years

  • @Hermiel
    @Hermiel Жыл бұрын

    In the late nineties my friends were using the digital audio track on S-VHS tapes as a mixdown format for their basement EM productions. This was not becuase they thought it sounded cool and retro but because it was their only affordable digital option. I was still using cassetes or maybe DAT. Of course it's not the same as the analog audio track on VHS but this video reminded me of that anecdote .

  • @skateboarding4life
    @skateboarding4life Жыл бұрын

    These videos make me so so happy. Thanks a lot!

  • @thisguy2973
    @thisguy2973 Жыл бұрын

    As a separate comment, when growing up in the 80s/90s, it used to really make us upset hearing that dissonance of the audio warble and it felt like it ruined the movie experience. For some strange reason, it always reminds me of the 80s and how much I loved life back then. It’s a warm, nostalgic feeling. Thank you!

  • @readtedium
    @readtedium Жыл бұрын

    I’m really surprised that ADAT wasn’t mentioned in this clip at all. It was a really popular format in the ’90s and a number of gigantic hits were recorded with it. It essentially was VHS audio used for mastering.

  • @0bsolet

    @0bsolet

    Жыл бұрын

    I worked with one. It was 6 tracks if I remember...

  • @thecritic2084

    @thecritic2084

    11 ай бұрын

    The guy is a composer and records music and I think he's really trying to focus here on using the analogue audio tracks as a sort of lofi signal processor to give it that "warm analogue sound" or whatever.... I'd be surprised if he weren't aware of the ADAT standard, which leverages the entire S-VHS tape on a completely different head mechanism. Even more than that, this issue was really solved in 1982 with the Sony PCM-F1, an A/D-D/A that can encode digital audio (Linear PCM) onto a video tape recorder's video tracks. It also led to the emergence of the ADAT optical I/O standard.... Some modern professional interfaces still use the ADAT lightpipe I/O, though it has largely been replaced by Dante.

  • @delta-9969

    @delta-9969

    3 ай бұрын

    ADAT is digital. It was the total opposite of "warm" and "analog." Technically CD quality but the converters at that time were horrible and were notorious for a flat and lifeless sound that you'll hear on a lot of CDs from that era. Of course it wouldn't surprise me if hipsters develop a sudden "nostalgia" for it and start laboriously bouncing everything down to an ADAT machine lol

  • @michaelkonomos
    @michaelkonomos Жыл бұрын

    Good timing. I’ve been hunting for VHS HIFI machines at the local Goodwill after watching a KZread video on this. Found one and it ate the tapes. Oh well. The hunt continues.

  • @njm1971nyc

    @njm1971nyc

    Жыл бұрын

    Most old VCRs will eat your tapes, but it's usually a very simple repair. 99% of the time it's because the tape is being pulled out by the capstan /pinch roller (as it should be) but not collected on the right hand take-up spool in the cassette. So the tape pools inside the VCR, and it shuts down. Most consumer VCRs have a swinging idler wheel that swings left for rewind, right for FF/Play. The grease on the swinging arm turns to tar, and it no longer swings 🫤 Older designs use a rubber tire on the swinging idler, which can become shiny and non-grippy. You can roughen it up with fine sandpaper. Usually a dab of grease and/or a piece of sandpaper will fully cure this problem. You're welcome. 👍😉

  • @michaelkonomos

    @michaelkonomos

    Жыл бұрын

    @@njm1971nyc thank you!

  • @purpleghost4083

    @purpleghost4083

    Жыл бұрын

    @@michaelkonomos The channel 12voltvids does repair videos on audio & video equipment including VCRs. Good and useful reference vids even if you don't need to fix the type of equipment in a particular video.

  • @tomhekker
    @tomhekker9 ай бұрын

    Hi-Fi VHS is one of the highest quality analog tape formats you could get at the time as a normal consumer without a padded bank account. I recorded hours of music on Hi-Fi VHS because of that back in the day.

  • @Upside_Down_Guitar_Guy
    @Upside_Down_Guitar_Guy Жыл бұрын

    Your ability to combine beautiful cinematography and wonderful music discussion is amazing

  • @ingreynelg
    @ingreynelg Жыл бұрын

    You are both a scientist and a musician. Really admire your brilliant mind. You create really interesting content.

  • @RhettShull
    @RhettShull Жыл бұрын

    This video is incredible, like you I've been pretty deep in the tape world recently. Thanks David!

  • @dedicatedspuddler7641
    @dedicatedspuddler7641 Жыл бұрын

    This is an awesome library. Thank you!

  • @cuttingedge1987
    @cuttingedge1987 Жыл бұрын

    Always amazing work!

  • @Imboredwithmylife
    @Imboredwithmylife Жыл бұрын

    Yes! My favorite youtuber!!

  • @ora2j251
    @ora2j251 Жыл бұрын

    To this day, i still make some mixtapes and record my mixes on HiFi VHS. They sound absolutely amazing and can easily hold 3 hours of audio.

  • @dr.darkroom

    @dr.darkroom

    Жыл бұрын

    Ok this is an incredible idea

  • @broncoxy
    @broncoxy Жыл бұрын

    As always ever so fascinatingly presented as the topic itself is, great job man!

  • @RRRRRRP
    @RRRRRRP Жыл бұрын

    Really enjoy the results you produced with this process, very nostalgic 💭

  • @___aZa___
    @___aZa___ Жыл бұрын

    I just love your channel. anything you pick up is so damn interesting! And all your inside on the technical devices is just wonderful

  • @johannahill4466
    @johannahill4466 Жыл бұрын

    that was... so neat. i literally never thought to use a VCR like this. anyone know the name of the Korean(?) movie or show that was sampled at the beginning of the video? aslas googling "boy flies on a whale" and plugging in different decades yeilds nothing. thanks for a truly stellar video!

  • @Andyyy982

    @Andyyy982

    Жыл бұрын

    I was also wondering. I speak Korean so I can confirm that it's not Korean. I'm fairly sure it's Japanese as I also know a smidge of Mandarin and it's almost certainly not chinese.

  • @thevoidinclusive
    @thevoidinclusive Жыл бұрын

    Absolutely wonderful video and sounds. Thank you!

  • @MooglePower
    @MooglePower Жыл бұрын

    Very cool to see the process of how you create the samples here. I just bought the library and am already using it in a track.

  • @enzohhh
    @enzohhh Жыл бұрын

    the file is unavailable :(

  • @IlNeige
    @IlNeige Жыл бұрын

    Those test samples are gorgeous!

  • @ItsBhavyaPatel
    @ItsBhavyaPatel Жыл бұрын

    This channel is amazing. Pure wonder and discovery.

  • @mistral-unizion-music
    @mistral-unizion-music Жыл бұрын

    Got it just because it is such a cool idea and you guys worked hard for this so I need to support your work! Sounds pretty cool indeed! 🙂

  • @jamesdavis5096
    @jamesdavis5096 Жыл бұрын

    It’s a well-known fact that a lot of audio engineers use VHS to master audio. They did make hi-fi VCRs. They make a great mastering track

  • @dougllewellyn4620

    @dougllewellyn4620

    Жыл бұрын

    I used a hi-fi VHS recorder as a backup master 2 track recorder in the 80s. I would mix down to 1/4" half track at 15 ips, and to the VHS deck. Worked like a champ!

  • @solarbabies9682

    @solarbabies9682

    Жыл бұрын

    Beta was more common

  • @dougllewellyn4620

    @dougllewellyn4620

    Жыл бұрын

    @@solarbabies9682 Beta was the better format, but VHS was way more common

  • @carlwinslow5905

    @carlwinslow5905

    Жыл бұрын

    Thats ADAT. It's not analog. I'd just 0s and 1s on tape. Like a hard drive

  • @dougllewellyn4620

    @dougllewellyn4620

    Жыл бұрын

    @@carlwinslow5905 ADAT used the same principle and hardware, but VHS/hi-fi wasn't digital.

  • @SamvaranSharma
    @SamvaranSharma Жыл бұрын

    It would be great to run an impulse input through the VCR in order to get a filter for the "quasar lo fi" sound that could then be applied to any sample. Similar to what they detailed in this NPR piece about recreating the sound inside the Hagia Sophia: kzread.info/dash/bejne/k3mAx6epl8y3n9Y.html

  • @nathanksimpson
    @nathanksimpson Жыл бұрын

    An awesome collab by two amazing sound designers! Venus Theory is great.

  • @adainjarrio
    @adainjarrio Жыл бұрын

    This is fantastic and is exactly the type of content I have been looking for on KZread.

  • @ryan.noakes
    @ryan.noakes10 ай бұрын

    Well this was fun! Also: Love that you're using Reaper in this video. That's a DAW that doesn't get as much love as it deserves.

  • @Jay-82
    @Jay-82 Жыл бұрын

    I think you are one of the few treasures on youtube, I love the editing style and your ideas are so creative. Keep it up ♥

  • @hisnameisjoel
    @hisnameisjoel Жыл бұрын

    Absolutely beautiful. Here I was thinking you were going to try and write to and decode audio from the video channel but this turned out way cooler. I had no idea the Hi-Fi system had a backup decoder. Amazing!

  • @sipzyofficial4379
    @sipzyofficial4379 Жыл бұрын

    This video is amazing, I think you just gave me inspiration on how to improve my Lofi sound with VHS sound, I had no idea you could do this!

  • @DanielHolter
    @DanielHolter Жыл бұрын

    Dual mono FTW, I love this vibe so much. Great work and inspiring as always!

  • @mcgreevs24
    @mcgreevs24 Жыл бұрын

    This was an absolute delight to stumble onto. Cheers!

  • @faxinadu
    @faxinadu Жыл бұрын

    Amazing work Dave and such a fun video as always

  • @jdl2962
    @jdl296210 ай бұрын

    Excellent video. The samples sound fantastic!

  • @averythomas64
    @averythomas64 Жыл бұрын

    Been working on VCRs for years and learned something. Thank you❤

  • @andygee8716
    @andygee8716 Жыл бұрын

    Back in the early 90s I purchased a Panasonic NV-FS90, 6 head stereo S-VHS Recorder with separate left and right audio level meters and audio level gain controls. It cost me around £1200 back then as it was one of the best, most feature laden models on the market. It was also an edit machine with frame by frame search with near perfect motion and stillness and a separate music track could be recorded on the machine to accompany home videos or presentations. I too used the machine as an audio recorder, as it could obtain better results than most dedicated cassette decks, ( Nakamich being the obvious exception), and didn't require any type of noise reduction, (Dolby B, C, S or dbx), as its recordings were virtually noiseless. I archived around 10 180 minute cassette's worth of music and used them for parties or family/friend get togethers. Sound quality was terrific but couldn't stand up against my pair of Nakamichi RX-505's, (they were exceptional and sadly missed), however, it was far more than acceptable and it never chewed a tape! I used that machine up until around 2012, (how many other machines have lived this long that have had so much use?) It survived 3 kids and their tapes, plus a jam sandwich posted through its cassette slot by my daughter, awaiting collection by the unseen postman. Cleaning and maintenance is vital to this calibre of a/v products, especially if you have kids using them, too. I retired it back to it's original box, sealed it and there it resides, STILL IN WORKING CONDITION, in the attic.

  • @VibeXplorer
    @VibeXplorer4 ай бұрын

    Fantastic idea and execution! Super outside-the-box thinking. Love it!

  • @ferthebard
    @ferthebard10 ай бұрын

    This is absolutely inspiring!! Fantastic Idea!

  • @Jan_Tabletop
    @Jan_Tabletop Жыл бұрын

    Yor videos are so pleasing / relaxing. Its always a joy and i learn intersting stuff! Thanks!

  • @JohnMassari
    @JohnMassari Жыл бұрын

    THANKS FOR CREATING AWESOME INSTRUMENTS!

  • @kaitlyn__L
    @kaitlyn__L Жыл бұрын

    Your explanation of helical scan, saying “almost as if the tape speed was higher” was really good for the uninitiated

  • @corporaterobotslave400
    @corporaterobotslave400 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this! I have an old Casio mini keyboard I found @ a thrift store a couple decades ago and I adore the tones on it but it has freaky white noise during silence; now I can sample them and retain some lofi magic using this method. Love sounding like no one else.