You should do this for desktop environments and window managers

Even though I'm a Arch user I love Arco as I copy their config files all the time

"Why dont just use debain?" "HOW DO I DOWNLOAD THE ISO IMAGE OF DEBAIN?!" ~ A New User.

Thanks for including my previous request!

I do love Arch, but I love Tumbleweed a little more. It's just as fresh, but doesn't break nearly as often. Select BTRFS and Snapper works right out of the box.

I use Alpine as my distro core and love APK and the fact it’s OpenRC and Doas. Putting Nix and Flatpak on it makes for a super snappy, super versatile and lightweight desktop experience. Artix is not just arch, it doesn’t Use SystemD. And also, Arco is a course to teach users how to use arch not just a distro.

Thinking about Ultramarin instead of Fedora, would that be a good choice or just generally stay away from it since it's based on Fedora?

A BIG correction, as a LFS distro developer, ARTIX is diffrent from ARCH, it can use diffrent init systems (which is hard)

@TitusTechTalk

10 ай бұрын

Yeah, I ended up changing this for the final run through of the distro tier list on the main channel.

Titus, my man - you really kicked the bees' nest with this one :) But I do get what you meant here.

Chris, I am interested in your thoughts about Qubes OS; Seems like it has a point. I wasn't even aware of it until this week.

Really want to boot up my arch I made a few years ago love it. Deb was awesome when I tried it as well, got it to work on a dying HDD when no other OS would.

I started my conversion to Linux with Mandrake. The current fork is Mageia. I think there is another fork. I started with Mandrake because it had a great installer and driver support back in 2000. For a newb it was great. Mageia was rock solid, slow to update but comparable to Open SUSE as almost a business worthy Linux desktop distro. I still have a Corel Linux (defunct) network license. It had brilliant graphics when it came out, far ahead of the competition. Pity Corel gave up on it.

I feel like distro tubes recent video is directed at this lol. I’m in the camp that some of these are pointless. However sometimes pop is great on some hardware. Other hardware it has some issues. So Its nice to hop around until you find one with good compatibility.

@donkey7921

10 ай бұрын

or use a decent distro so you don't have to hop.

I disagree with your point on pointless distros. I use Manajro. I have tried Arch, Endeavour and some others and firstly Endeavour broke 3 times in 3 months. Secondly so many things don't work out of the box on these base distros. That's why derivatives exist. Because some of us have better things to do with our time than spend ages setting up all the background stuff. Despite the reputation that Manjaro has, it has continued to work for me for over 2 years with zero problems that I didn't create myself. Can't say that for Endeavour. I can't speak for Arch as so many things didn't work out of the box that I didn't bother. But the great thing with Linux is, despite peoples opinions, there are many distro's and they exist because they appeal to different people and use cases. Also not bashing on Endeavour, I mostly liked it but I did have problems.

Fedora is still a Community distro, so if Red Hat decides to pull from Fedora, it's not Fedora's fault... And Red Hat pulls some stuff from every other distro as well and Red Hat is still contributing to (almost) every Linux distro, because of systemd and other core programs

What distro have the best driver support?

Where would you put specialty distros like truenas, unRAID, Synology, proxmox, ect.

OpenSuSE is more of a parallel although 'slightly upstream' version of SLE. In the pre-Leap days, OpenSuSE was definitely the generational upstream of SLE. Since 15.0 OpenSuSE is more parallel to SLE. Basically new packages hit OpenSuSE first for a few weeks or so before being moved into SLE and security/bugfixes hit SLE first before being moved into OpenSuSE. It's why you have SLE repositories in OpenSuSE now. This works out really good for SuSE since new packages can be tested in 'production' that's community driven while commercial clients get security and bugfixes first. In the end it's a pretty beneficial arrangement for everyone involved. The community benefits from SuSEs focus on being a super stable and sanely up to date server distro while SuSE benefits from the community essentially production testing new patch levels of software. And that means that SuSE only has to maintain one general architecture at a time with just package differences between them. SuSE also has some of the best distro-adjacent tooling you'll ever see like the Open Build Service. The OBS is such a hidden treasure that really does deserve more attention then it gets. AutoYaST and Kiwi-NG are also amazing for anyone looking to custom bare-metal deployments at scale. I will say though that Desktop never has and never will be the focus of SuSE. Their only goal with desktop is to provide a stable and relatively vanilla out of box config that you can then easily customize to your needs. Think of the Desktop on SuSE as more of a kiosk interface then a daily-driver desktop and you'll have the correct expectation. Does that mean you can't make it a daily-driver desktop? No, but you'll have to add most of those bells and whistles yourself.

KDE Neon is great distro. The newest Plasma, stable lts base but it's not well configured out of the box. It needs personal polishing. It works for me.

I somewhat agree. Especially with how intuitive archinstall is now, Installing arch is barelly harder than any gui installer. I personally still think OpenSuse deserves a Spot in Supreme Tier. It's not based on Arch or Debian and is a top tier Plasma Distro. It's also the best option for users who want a gui for everything. Additionally, one of the Immutable Distros should be Supreme tier. Steam Deck showed the way and Silverblue or MicroOS will become used a bunch more. Certainly they aren't pointless. Finally, at least on Kali: It's a live distro. There totally is a point in heaving a 100% ready to go, live only distro that you can boot from iso and do work. Just like tails. Having to install 50 packages after boot doesn't mean i know linux any better. That's just busywork.

@_sneer_

10 ай бұрын

I have Kali on my laptop. Eveerything works OOTB and has all the software I will ever want on my laptop. Why should I start with Debian and then patch everything, get drivers, software, setup etc and waste a lot of time instead just installing Kali? Probably I would still need to get something from Kali to make it work and it still wouldn't be as good as Kali. I just want to use the damn thing.

@npaladin2000

10 ай бұрын

Arch doesn't support archinstal. You ask for help and they find out you used the script, they'll tell you to go installit by hand using the Wiki and then come back.

@domsch1302

10 ай бұрын

@@_sneer_ Well mostly because even the Kali Devs recommend against running it as a regular Desktop system. It's setup with pentesting in mind and has a ton of costumization under the hood on the Service and Kernel level that make it a poor choice for a general purpose home or work desktop.

@domsch1302

10 ай бұрын

@@npaladin2000 Archinstall has a wiki article mentioning the manual installation is "recommended" and that you should mention that you use archinstall when looking for help. Everything else is up to individuals providing the help. It isn't like there is an official 24/7 Arch support hotline. If i help people i couldn't care less how they installed arch. Some people in the Arch community can be d*cks about it, but that certainly isn't the only opinion.

@_sneer_

10 ай бұрын

@@domsch1302 100% correct, which means that Kali is not pointless and if I need Kali I should install Kali on my laptop, not Debian and modify it to do Kali's job like Chris says.

I tried Clear Linux and the installation failed, then I decided to run debian and the installation process sucked I couldn't change the keyboard layout.... I installed vanilla os and I run into problems when I tried to install some apps ... Linux is confusing

What books did you read to learn how to build Linux from scratch?

Loved system76 until I switched to Debian did setup their keyboard and tiling features on Debian works amazing.

Why not just use Arch? Because it's 2023 and Arch still doesn't have a 1990's installer.

@npaladin2000

10 ай бұрын

Arch doesn't even have a 1980s installer. It's more like a 1970s installer...a list of commands on a sheet of paper. 😁

Correction for Alma, Rocky etc.: they "were" a 1:1 RHEL clone :D

@double0028

10 ай бұрын

Rocky still is :)

@tuppytheducky

10 ай бұрын

@@double0028for now

I love my Feren OS install. It’s a lot cleaner than most other KDE Plasma spins. And I think it doesn’t have Snaps by default. I prefer it over Linux Mint as a new user.

@dighekonesijbeg5498

7 ай бұрын

Liked it more than Zorin, as a Windows themed Distro.

For me the best desktop experience is Nobara (after 8 years of being linux user), not only for gaming but for every day desktop usage. And yeah, its awesome. Thank you GE! For any server usage: Debian/Alma/Suse (and stuff based on them like proxmox, I know its debian based but they made great job in virtualisation and UI or for example suse based Harvester)

@julian.morgan

10 ай бұрын

Agreed - Also my experience - installed it to explore playing some games on Linux and then realised months later that I hadn't thought about what distro to try next for the first time in years.

@viktor9706

10 ай бұрын

​@@julian.morgan Disagreed, its not start after clean installation, i tried gnome version and default version

Can you do a playlist on Unix like os’s ?

My ignorance - what does immutable mean in terms of a distro?

To be fair, kali and parrot bake tons of drivers in, so they just run on basicly any hardware, which often don't work to hot on debian. (Eg macbook wifi drivers) 😂

@TitusTechTalk

10 ай бұрын

This used to be true, but Debian now comes with non-free firmware by default and these things work everywhere. They actually have always used Debian's nonfree to grab them... they didn't make them or curate them, they just installed them by default.

@iamme659

10 ай бұрын

Kali is also really meant for VMs, since you wouldn't want to wreck your personal machine with some malware/virus if you are looking at it or using the built in tools, it makes it easy to have this stuff ready to go so you can just blow vm up when you're done. Very Useful.

artix is arch without systemd, not another arch dotfile distro. so, it's in "unique", ig. idk why nobody in the chat reminded this. not to mention you did put it into unique category on your main hcannel

I love the place my dear Solus got in the ranking. It was my first distro and it was awesome, but... once you try pacman for the first time, it's settled, there is just no way back. I was going to defend Manjaro, claiming it should be on "Amazing for new users" tier, but then I remembered how many times the damn thing broke on me, so, yeah... Shouldn't Gentoo be on supreme tier, though?

Hey Titus, nice tier list. I agree with you in most cases. One thing I never understood about Ubuntu, and I remember once upon a time, Ubuntu was the go-to distro, but all of a sudden, people started to hate it, and I just can't figure out why. I mean, people say Canonical is the manifestation of the devil. But why? What's the source of this hate towards Canonical? Sure, I googled, and I found a few articles where Canonical made some weird things, but let's be honest, who doesn't? The other thing: snaps. Why do people claim that snaps are slow, buggy, and insecure? What's the source of this? Any proofs? Don't get me wrong; I'm not protecting Canonical at all. I'm using Fedora (the other "devil"), but I hop over to Ubuntu now and then by testing it in a live environment (not even virtualizing to ensure that I'm having the most accurate experience as possible). For example, now in 23.10, I see no problems at all. I've read in some articles that snaps make packages somewhat "slow," whatever that means. People claim that Firefox opens up in 15-20 seconds by using Snap's Firefox, but that's just untrue. As far as I know, Snap works just the same way as Flatpaks. The first packages truly install "slower" because there's that one-time install at the beginning for Snap dependencies. But after the first install has been completed, all the later Snap install procedures are much quicker because they do not install the dependencies again, since they were already installed as other packages' dependencies. Telemetry? It's literally an opt-in feature. At install, there's a pop-up asking if you want to opt-in or not. Rumors say telemetry still works even if one opted out, but there is no proof provided. I think that all this hate towards Canonical is simply derived from human nature or jealousy.

You forgot a tier, and that's god tier. Here we can put templeos and macos.

Best of the times for suse guys and gals to come out of shadows of fedora/redhat and start developing something independent. Opensuse on its own is a S tier operaing system minus fedora.

Honestly I use Endeavour and in a sense you'd have to have tried installing Arch the usual way first just to get your head around it. I do think though that in a sense if you already did a few installs on arch and you don't wanna bother (or don't wanna use the archinstall) then you can use Endeavour. The rest is just vanilla Arch (almost) and makes the installation a breeze hahah

How do I get the unity desktop environment on Debian.......

@Linus7671

5 ай бұрын

You can't.

Want to try Nobara as I play games on Windows and want to learn Linux, so will you be reviewing anytime soon?

I still haven't any story about manjaro breaking after one year. Running it on at least 4 pc/laptops dayli ... ;)

Agree with you Titus there are lots of pointless distros, Doing same thing again and again. No one creating good user interface of ClamAV no one adding real time protection and hips in clamav, very few people creating valuable stuff.

Slack was one of the distros I tried after I tried rolling my own, back when it was feasible to do that kind of thing. I think the slippery slop argument is bullshit it most contexts, but then I think of where RedHat started and where they are now. (Or where Google started and their original motto of "Do no evil," and handing out boxer shorts on college campuses back in the 90s.) I actually bought a boxed, shrink wrapped package of Mandrake Linux to "support the Linux marketplace" or whatever" or whatever. Did the whole Gentoo on a ThinkPad for a year thing because alphanerd's gotta tryhard. These days, I use Kubuntu or Manjaro. Whichever one will install with more of the stuff of I want working without me having to fuck with it. The less I have to fuck with things, the better I like it. That's why I actually prefer the Mac, in addition to to them getting UI 95% right (the other 5% they deliberately do wrong bothers the shit out of me) and why I don't do Debian or Arch. I have to fuck with too much shit to get things to work right out of the box. I know how to do it, but the era in which I used to derive satisfaction from eking compliance from inanimate objects, bending them to my will and having them do my bidding has passed. I have a lot more sex instead now.

Redhat hate why I will not touch rhel alma probably. I would use Alma for a lts distros.

*laughs in manjaro* it was the only arch based distro that would work on my computer. dont judge me i'm not gonna break it. i'm not a total noob, plus i'm running it on a VM so i can just copy it or save snapshots and start over. i also have kali and i really like it. i mean sure all this stuff could just be downloaded separately but....it was convenient for me to do it all at once.

@Cenot4ph

2 ай бұрын

You're not alone, Arch's archinstall script didn't even run on my machine. garbage QA. Endeavor i had so many issues with stability not even running it for 1 day, updated the kernel that completely broke in compilation and f'd up my systemd. These OS's are test beds, they're not serious workstation OS's, I avoid them.

Qubes uses Fedora solely as its base now. Is that bad?

@iamme659

10 ай бұрын

No man use what you want, this list is just his personal pref. Fedora/Xen and that whole easy containerized oobe is only avail on Qubes. Unless you want to make vms for everything.

I generally agree, but we have a problem here. You 'steal' configs from Arco, this means they are good. Would you know these configs exist, if they were not set as a default in a distro? We should find a way to expose these configs/knowledge better, appreciate the authors contribution to the Linux community. Maybe then they wouldn't need to create a new distro.

I think it would be great if you try all of them

Absolute Mad Lad

Good stuff and I see the point, but saying that so many of these distros are pointless, is like saying frozen pizza is pointless. Sure, you can make your own dough and pizza and it's not even that hard, but most people (unfortunately) just don bother, don't have the time, nor the skills and just put a prepped one into the oven. It's a matter of time, convenience and skill. So while from your point as a (Linux) master chef they might feel pointless, for many others out there they serve a great purpose and they definitely help to grow the community and make Linux more approachable, as you alluded to at the beginning of the video.

Please include the names under the logos. We don't all have every logo memorized.

I am a fedora and linux mint user 😂. Gnome and cinnamon 🔥

@Cenot4ph

2 ай бұрын

I understand you, because they just work out of the box

Solus was my first daily driver. It worked for almost 3 years without any issues (I was using gnome) until about 2 weeks ago after updating my graphics drivers it totally broke. I figured I'd reinstall it, and when I did all I got was a black screen and a blinking cursor of death on my first boot. Couldn't even tty. I said to myself, "I literally use Solus so shit like this would not happen", and so since Solus was no longer the unbreakable distro in my eyes, it lost all its value. I switched to Pop!_OS and instantly fell in love. Literally nobody else was posting about Solus breaking during that time so I assume it was just a gnome issue. I'm assuming Budgie users were fine. Still, the carelessness... why even offer gnome if you're not gonna pay attention to whether or not it works? This didn't happen when DataDrake was the lead dev.

Good video! Do a tier list of Desktop Environments and Windows Managers.

trolling

"if I put Gentoo in here, I would be murdered tomorrow" 🤣

F the “supreme” tier. I have no desire to learn Linux on any deep level I just want something that’s easy to use w/o the command line. Fedora and PopOS are the best to me. Also F the parasites like Rocky.

@amongus303iq3

10 ай бұрын

how would you troubleshoot pop os if it breaks or something and you don't know shit I mean you can create backups and reinstall but as a last resort knowing linux and understanding can help you understand how to fix it

@Cenot4ph

2 ай бұрын

@@amongus303iq3 mate, so called S Tier Arch archinstall script didnt even work on my machine. Arch is a disaster imo and in some cases it may work, but this demonstrates a clear lack of QA in their releases

@amongus303iq3

2 ай бұрын

@@Cenot4ph I had the same thing pretty sure you need the latest iso or manual install it I just ran the new installer it fixed it

@Cenot4ph

2 ай бұрын

@@amongus303iq3 I got it from their website the same day of install

Random question. Does anyone know why I "and others on reddit" cannot log into twitch under vanilla arch on any browser BUT standard google chrome? brave, firefox, chromium all give an "unsupported browser" error and also you cannot accept/decline the cookies banner either. Only happens on vanilla arch, even endeavour works

@zurkke

10 ай бұрын

Never happened to me.

To quote mental outlaw: "Arch is just bleeding edge Debian with a different package manager"

@Cenot4ph

2 ай бұрын

that is badly tested, crashes a lot and can break your systemd

I actually agree, never did understand why anyone who knows how to install Arch would want to a downstream distro. Why the hell would you not want complete control over the base install. THERE'S A FREAKING INSTALL SCRIPT NOW. Once I set up Arch, its donezo. If you have even a basic concept of OS design, there is literally no reason not to just use Arch. Although, it would be nice if a newer version of rocm-core would finally make it out of the staging branch...

@Cenot4ph

2 ай бұрын

a script that doesn't even work, my machine is new hardware arch is supposed to be bleeding edge, their installer archinstall doesn't work. Garbage

I wanna say I love you for saying how evil FB is

Do appreciate your content and opinion, but this felt a little lazy and like you were trolling for comments. So I decided to oblige :) Your definition that a lot of these distro's are pointless could also be applied to your tool for modifying Windows, anyone could do the same but it just makes it easier ;)

@iamme659

10 ай бұрын

This one got me. Thank you.

Titus just made a movie, s=ck it Hollywood.

Videos like this why linux just a toxic enviroment. we really need to do better.

@Malik-101

10 ай бұрын

Doing same thing again and again. No one creating good user interface of ClamAV no one adding real time protection and hips in clamav, very few people creating valuable stuff.

Dejavu or has the Matrix just had a reset???

Always remember this is one guy's opinion.

Arco is awesome for noobs imo - btw I'm noobs 😅 I use the aur often and have yet to break my system. Maybe i need to mab up and install arch but the fear is real xD

Yesterday we showed violence today we're going nuclear ☢️

Must agree Debian & Arch are best in class BUT if these were cars Debian, Arch would be a Buick & the equivalent yet superior in innovation openSUSE a BMW with openSUSE Leap a Debian openSUSE Tumbleweed an Arch and from under the same roof... the BEST PERFORMER be it; speed, security & flexibility is openSUSE MicroOS Like a BMW "track ready" sports car. What do I know anyway... If we're going to the same place... I'll see ya all when you get there... Enjoy the Buick - a it's a really nice car.

well that means i am in devil section, viva la devil :DD

Titus you are being very naughty, distro lovers may be looking for ya 😁😆😅

We need to replace Twitter with not having Twitter. Maybe a new, simple RSS feed tool.

You forgot Xubuntu Man

How dare you ?! ahah Well, imho NixOS is kind of future...it is my daily driver as a rolling distro: unstable-plasma flavor. You got it all: time machine for rollbacks, last kernel, last nvidia drivers (my mobo was stuck with these in kubuntu, opensuse, fedora, etc.), last plasma! Learnig curve kind of steep, but then suddenly kind of flat :)

@benjy288

10 ай бұрын

Yep, plus its basically unbreakable, I've got stable and unstable installed, and can pick and choose which to boot into, pretty cool, I don't know of any other distro that can do that, plus you don't have to worry about an update breaking your system.

I’m both an Arch and Debian user. I have Garuda(arch-based) on my ‘pointless’ desktop, and Debian Trixie(testing) on my laptop. The best of both Supremes! 😀

1:19:37 didnt know my buddy jon is secretly a copy of windows lmfao

Mate... Base Arch and Base Debian might be good for people who know shit and know what they want but it is horrible for anyone who is not at least a little bit interested in technology. CONSIDER THE FUCKING USER FOR FUCKS SAKE. I like playing around with Distros and I am a big fan of KDE but KDE just shows how much a distro is broken or not. There are little things, like kio-gdrive with is a KDE I/O module that let's you connect to Google Drive and it was cooked on Debian, cooked on Kubuntu, and it could not authenticate on KDE Neon which is strange behavior for someone who is not neck deep in Linux all the time. I AM NOT A IT PRO ANYMORE I DON'T HAVE THE TIME OR THE PATIENCE TO FUCK AROUND! The solution was to migrate my self to openSuSE Tumbleweed because I trust their testing. It worked beautifully. SuSE did something that was not done by other distros. It worked... Same with PoP_OS! It did something novel THAT'S WHY DISTROS ARE RELEVANT.

I would argue exactly the opposite. That Arch and Debian these days are pointless because others have taken their great canvas and improved on it by making them more accessible and streamlined. Even if a user is able to install Arch/Debian and get it up and running to where they want it, why waste time doing that when there's almost certainly a distro which has already created that environment out of the box while also making the overall process much faster and simpler? And for new users needless to say that just the installation process will probably be a bouncing wall that sends them right back to Windows before even seeing a DE. Nobody is giving out points to people who make things harder for themselves. "Pointless" and "beginners" distros make life easier for everyone, we should reward them for this rather than put them down.

God send asterid to TTT location

you should have left the certain user casers

Linux beef, only surpassed by BSD beef.

@jp-ny2pd

10 ай бұрын

I always accredited that to BSD having so many less flavors then Linux distros.

Fedora is S tier

just chiming in about elementary OS as a user. Its good and bad at the same time, now that hackintosh is dead, my bedroom desktop has 3 jobs: look nice, browser the web and play music and video. for serious work, its awful. too many outdated depencencies, distrobox will not work, multiple problems, but to throw on a computer quicklu to look stylish and just go on the web, that you wish you could make into a hackintosh, yeh, its fine. for real work im on suse tumbleweed.

If Microsoft weren't so evil, pretty much all Linux distros would be in the pointless category.

Becayse regular Arch is a PITA to install and most "Arch users" use an Arch-derivative anyway, once they've proven they can install Arch. And before someone brings up archinstall, the Arch devs and community don't consider that the "proper" way to install Arch. So Arco and EndeavourOS and the others absolutely have a point and a purpose.

There could've been a "helpful community" and maybe "steal from me" tiers to better organize your pointless tier, unless you think that'd muddy the scope of this video

arch in the S tier is a joke, archinstall didn't even start on my machine that tells you how lacking their QA is. I'm sorry but in this day and age if you can't even manage your own cli installer properly, you don't deserve to be at any top list. fedora on the opposite spectrum actually works on my new machine, no errors, nothing. My suggestion is to drop the ego, look at the facts, reevaluate what such a list is really based on.

@Ohhimark100

Ай бұрын

Skill issue

@Cenot4ph

Ай бұрын

@@Ohhimark100 exactly

distro comedy.

A new user need to learn first... Zoren is payed must be on no list

Poor man's mac is better than the rich man's mac because you pay less

I like content that makes the Linux community, especially Linux nerds/neckbeards mad. I 100% agree with you. I use Arch and Debian, I tried a few distros, like Arco, that was actually fine, but eos, Manjaro and other Arch based distros were bad (Artix is different, I liked thas distro). I tried Fedora, but dnf and their repos are just slow af, so that's a big pile of 💩. Ubuntu, I always hated Ubuntu, the big tech distro, LMDE is fine, but the other distros that I tried, I can't name them because I forgot them, they all ran less than 5 minutes in a vm and got destroyed. Copy-paste useless distros.

I like Arch, Debian and Fedora between those three Fedora is the most polish.

Calling arch based distros pointless is kinda dumb. It's like saying anything that isn't Linux from scratch pointless because "everything is Linux, bro"

Chris maybe make a video on alternatives for SystemD, Etc in Debian, "Since you know RHEL is the Devil, Possibly installing the Alternatives to SystemD?

I don''t know why debian and arch are supreme, and what makes them a better choice than something like openSUSE, also I use nixos on the desktop, its super secure and basically unbreakable, I think its a great choice for desktop usage, I did a dist upgrade on my mothers debian laptop and it broke it, couldn't load sysroot, so I put nixos on it instead, now I don't have to fear an upgrade breaking it.

@utherlightbringer3868

10 ай бұрын

Debian bc ease of use bc so much documentation and arch bc bleeding edge updates of software

@benjy288

10 ай бұрын

@@utherlightbringer3868 I would say ubuntu or mint is easier to use and has at least as much or more documentation, and arch isn't the only distro that has bleeding edge software.

@Cenot4ph

2 ай бұрын

@@utherlightbringer3868 bleeding edge that can't run my Lenovo 7 4090.. Arch is a joke. Don't produce a test OS and have people figure out your shit along the way. Archinstall didnt even run on the ISO, it's that bad

LXLE is better than Lubuntu.

makes a lot of sense, but wow, but why artix is pointless, it is basically arch without systemd... for me experience with systemd was always frustrating, and I'm so glad that I can now basically use arch and never ever touch systemd again. openrc or runit make much more sense

@borremoonkey

10 ай бұрын

Systemd always worked well across various distros ive used, what were you doing to your system? Granted I'm mainly on Void but also concurrently playing with Gentoo and both openRC and Runit are simple and get the job done. I honestly don't mess with init systems other than when I'm first installing/building my system and its a set&forget. But as I mentioned systemd was also another set&forget.

@georgytoporkov2041

10 ай бұрын

@@borremoonkey i do occasionally create my own services, e.g. for airflow, and systemd always looked to me just overcomplicated. Other than that, yes it works fine, except they are trying to do too many stuff for just an init system (like why the hell we need to manage users with systemd-homed?!!)

I'm going to say this again. According to Chris Titus, Chris Titus is pointless as there are many other people he gets his knowledge from. We should just stop supporting CT and listen to the source, the OGs. Same like with those pointless distros.

@kanji.debian

10 ай бұрын

Hoes mad

@_sneer_

10 ай бұрын

@@kanji.debian I applied the logic of this video to Techtuber Tier list and showing where CT would be. But I wouldn't expect nuance from someone using 4chan memes unironically.

@Malik-101

10 ай бұрын

Distros are wasting their time and effort trying to achive something which is already exist. At least distros should have unique use case, Just see peppermint as a test case based on debian but heavier as ubuntu, Features they add is not working properly, MxLinux & Linuxmint LMDE is already their and works properly. Give you one more example no one creating good user interface of ClamAV no one adding real time protection and hips in clamav, very few people creating valuable stuff. We dont need more distros and desktop environment which do same things.

@Malik-101

10 ай бұрын

I have so much respect for distros team, I want distros to be successfull ,but we need some good and valuable products

@_sneer_

10 ай бұрын

@@Malik-101 So, you are saying that people that release distros you consider pointless should stop releasing distros and get you a good interface for ClamAV? People use and like their distros and maybe don't need ClamAV that you need. Make the ClamAV interface yourself if you don't like it and let distro people do distros.

One thing Ubuntu gets better than Debian is their booting. It is aesthetically and practically more pleasant and fluid. But for all the rest, Debian is so much better. I couldn't go back to Ubuntu. Why Linux Mint, Kubuntu, Lubuntu and such are not in the useless tier? They are basically Debian with Cinnamon, Debian with KDE and Debian with LXDE/LXqT

@mephisto--

8 ай бұрын

They're way more simple for new users, that's the point of the tier

@nietzschescodes

8 ай бұрын

@@mephisto-- Well if the point of the video is to rank them on which are the best for new users, then why Arch is at the top? It doesn't make any sense.

@mephisto--

8 ай бұрын

@@nietzschescodes THESE ARE SEPARATE TIERS, like read the tiers bro wth

@nietzschescodes

8 ай бұрын

@@mephisto-- ah yeah. he titled the 2nd section "amazing for new users". Well it is a weird tier list because a distribution could be in more than one tier section. Like Lubuntu could be in "light weight" and "amazing for new users" and other categories. You talked about "the point of the tier", you mean the section "amazing for new users" on the tier list, I was talking about the "pointless" section. That whole tier list is literally all over the place...This is not how tier lists work. A Tier list is ranking things on a single question, not 7 questions.

@mephisto--

8 ай бұрын

@@nietzschescodes The beauty with tier lists is that everyone can personnalize it the way he wants. Actually everything is wrote, he's not lying to anyone.

What about your own distro, ArchTitus Pointless isn't it?

Trolling or R-tarded....

Pointless video. Just my opinion. No mad.

@mephisto--

8 ай бұрын

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