There's no greater frustration than finding a great video, from an abandoned channel

@trevor5666

4 жыл бұрын

No greater satisfaction than seeing a great channel comment on a great video from an abandoned channel.

@MarkusAldawn

4 жыл бұрын

I believe this channel survives in Historia Civilis- if it's not the same person, it's very close.

@MarkusAldawn

4 жыл бұрын

I scrolled down and it appears it is not the same person lmao

@marcokite

4 жыл бұрын

@@trevor5666 - even greater satisfaction in seeing a sarcastic comment regarding great channel comment on a great video from an abandoned channel

@tendiesman4637

4 жыл бұрын

He must have been killed by the germs

Sulla: These constitutional reforms will stop any other man seizing power as I have Gauis Julius Caesar: Hold my grapes

@vladtheimpaler9577

5 жыл бұрын

Hahaha now thats clever. It was indeed Sulla's example that inspired Caesar to take power by force.

@teegamew766

4 жыл бұрын

@@vladtheimpaler9577 Caesar: Sulla My Idol, Felix Senpai!!!!

@megabo3ed

4 жыл бұрын

@@teegamew766 wasn't Cesar related to Marius?

@mariotutuncu-macias1986

4 жыл бұрын

wrong julius caesar

@Yirak123

4 жыл бұрын

@@megabo3ed yes he was. Julia, cesar's aunt, was mario's wife.

This painted Sulla in a much more positive light than I'm used to. Thanks for the new perspective.

@AbbeyRoadkill1

6 жыл бұрын

I think Sulla overreacted. Yes, Marius was acting like a dictatorial prick but what Sulla did by marching on Rome and taking it by force was unprecedented and fundamentally changed the Roman psyche forever. What the Republic needed at that time was a resrained adult to pursue reconciliation between Rome's 2 political parties (the Optimates and Populares) not an out-of-control reign of terror that cemented the hatreds forever and paved the way for perpetual autocracy.

@bentonrp

6 жыл бұрын

AbbeyRoadkill1 - I always thought Sulla committed sort of justified atrocities, as if 'the lesser of two evils' was always the better route. I could be wrong, but I would love to have a debate about whether Sulla was justified or not...

@fuckmitchhanes

5 жыл бұрын

Also consider that while Marius initiated the civil war by his ambition and obvious bribery, Sulla's march into Rome was the real start of the dissolution of the republic. Marius could be dealt with easily and legally, especially considering his age. But since Sulla marched on Rome ALL the armies in the region had to be brought up, fields and such went relatively untended, etc. Since the military reforms of Marius they composed of more landless citizens than usual, but still took their toll. Not to mention how many died as a result of the civil war, right after the Mithridatic and Social wars (the latter being awful considering it was essentially another civil war.) And depending on your perspective, the amount he strengthened the patrician class and the Senate in relation to the plebeians and the tribunes was not a good idea. He undid a lot of the good Marius did for the stability of Rome by making the patrician/plebiean divide a bit less dramatic.

@neutronalchemist3241

5 жыл бұрын

Sulla's dictatorship had been an unprecedented bloodshed, and the clip didn't say that the "borderline senile" Marius actually saved Sulla's life in the turmoil that followed the assassination of Publius Sulpicius Rufus. To march over the city had not been exactly a sign of gratitude.

@comteroi9219

5 жыл бұрын

@@neutronalchemist3241 Political gratitude? Marius used his intrigue to steal the command away from a legitimately elected Consul. In modern aspects, that is the equivalent of a private citizen organising a coup against a Prime Minister and then exiling him from the city. Marius acted against the legal customs and tradition of the state for his own personal gain. Sulla had no political power once he had escaped from an usurped Rome. To march on the city wasn't supposed to be gratitude, it was to restore order. Fair enough, he broke more laws by doing it but what would you do?

I didn't actually realise Sulla died peacefully in retirement - and how much he really achieved for Rome. Later writers are so scathing about his "proscriptions" you'd think he was just a madman.

@Kai555100

3 жыл бұрын

Well the productions made him hated very quickly by the people and rome started to romanticize Marius immedialty after Sulla died

@bernardok

2 жыл бұрын

nah, he died with a big ass kidney stone

@Spy653

2 жыл бұрын

Makes you wonder what Caesar had in mind. I suspect a similar path, going off the fact that the way he celebrated becoming politically unrivalled was to run off and go reinvent the calendar.

@manuelkong10

2 жыл бұрын

Caesar didn't do Anything Sulla did....probably because he and his family had to go into hiding to avoid being murdered because of Sulla Caesars' history is Full of Pardons for his enemies Caesar did pretty much the exact opposite as sulla and with diametrically opposed motives ie. Caesar was pushing for reforms for the citizens of Rome and Sulla was Destroying reforms for the people in order to keep the oligarchic patricians/senatorial class in power When sulla took Rome he did it to grab power, When Caesar did it, he did it to preserve his own life, the senate had demanded he disband his legions while pompey refused to disband his they wanted Caesar to return to Rome as a private citizen with the Express Intent of being able to bring criminal charges against him to put him to death....as they had murdered other popularii reformers before him....Caesar was no fool and the senate REFUSED to come to any compromise the optimates had been opposed to Caesar LONG before he had any armies The same group of people who supported sulla, were Caesars enemies

@Bundpataka

2 жыл бұрын

@@manuelkong10 Caesar pretty clearly wanted to become king after he grew drunk with power after winning all the civil wars though

Wow, Romans were quite thin.

@rasdas3289

5 жыл бұрын

lol

@AnneH1021

4 жыл бұрын

Lmao

@merlingt1

4 жыл бұрын

Incredible that they were able to build such an empire with such little muscle mass.

@craezee247

4 жыл бұрын

they had balls severely outweighing their body mass

@infidelheretic923

4 жыл бұрын

Most were. Even patricians had more activity than your average American today. They also had a lot less sugar and meat in their diet.

you forgot to mention he also has no nose.

@Frankowillo

6 жыл бұрын

That's his dad's fault. He did that, "Look, I've got your nose" thing, that dad's love to do to kids. Problem is, he forgot to put it back. Poor little bugger.

@Hornwiesel

6 жыл бұрын

He wasn't very NOSEY to others.

@dylanmorgan2752

6 жыл бұрын

I read somewhere he did actually have a rare nasty skin condition that left his entire body and face covered in sores and red blotches.

@than217

5 жыл бұрын

In truth his nose was bigger than Gerard Depardieu's. Find a bust of him with a nose. That fucken thing needed its own time zone!

@gamingchinchilla7323

5 жыл бұрын

I HAVE NO NOSE AND I MUST SNEEZE!

Why aren't there any movies about this guy's life?

@ouss

6 жыл бұрын

because hollywood is socialist just look at the serie rome and how they pAnder to that cunt cesar they will awash you in nazi movies but none on the gulags

@bentomoswall

6 жыл бұрын

Ah yes, that notably socialist ruler of Rome, Caesar, commonly known for his pre-Marx collectivism. What?

@jorgerabaza6014

6 жыл бұрын

Caesar was a populist. This guy was a conservative. Nothing to do with the left right divide now...or does it?

@illerac84

6 жыл бұрын

Sulla and Caesar were both of the patrician class, and both came from financially weak families. The difference is that Sulla ended up seeking power through the traditional course of alliance with the Senate (probably because Marius was a populist and screwed Sulla over early in his career), whilst Caesar was a Populare and used the tribunates and love of the mob to rule. Either way, they were elite, they weren't going to tear down the social order. If anything, Sulla is actually more admirable. He relinquished power whilst Caesar was fully into the idea of dictator for life.

@zombatija

6 жыл бұрын

c kwiz ah conservative snowflake making drama in the comments...

The first three books of Colleen McCullough's Masters Of Rome series, "The First Man In Rome", The Grass Crown" and "Fortune's Favourites", contain, in great detail, the rise and life, both military and political, of Sulla. I recommend them to anyone with an interest in the last century of the Roman republic. Bottom line: they played for keeps in those days and their enemies expected, and received, no mercy.

@markbeltra4927

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this!

@rogeriopenna9014

4 жыл бұрын

read them all. Amazing books.

@tristanrainey5080

4 жыл бұрын

Only read First Man in Rome, but loved it.

@dremarley4388

4 жыл бұрын

Great series. I loved her writing. She got blind in her last days.

@umpdaddy1

4 жыл бұрын

A wonderful series of historical novels backed by extensive research. I found them to be both entertaining and informative. The author captured not only the historical narrative but the everyday life of the Romans. This series was recommended to me by a history teacher who told me that his professor in college had them as required reading for a course on Roman history. Ms. McCullogh took literary license in the dialog and incorporated some minor events which are disputed by some historians, along with depictions of some personages which may or may not be accurate, but the series is highly readable and true to the major events of the era. I highly recommended it to anyone interested in Roman history.

What an interesting figure. Rises to absolute power, reformations to prevent others from doing as he did, and then retires with his wife and boyfriend. That's amazing.

@taroman7100

4 жыл бұрын

what a life!

@AsirIset

4 жыл бұрын

Well this forgets a couple of things, like Sulla inventing the proscriptions which was the darkest point of Roman history up to that point and until the proscriptions were revived under the second triumvarate of Antony, Lepidus and Octavian. The fact that Sulla had no interest in ruling doesn't change the fact that his reign was of such brutality that similar was not to be seen in more than half a century.

@WolfofAsia012

3 жыл бұрын

@Matheus Kawata Marius was the big jerk definately. Even Without using official Proscription, he killed many in gang violence.

@Melodeath00

2 жыл бұрын

@@AsirIset Marius "invented" the proscriptions though, not Sulla. What Sulla did was simply a continuation of what Marius had started.

@AsirIset

2 жыл бұрын

@@Melodeath00 Well sure Sulla is on the same continuum as Marius, who ramped up political violence. I am not aware of the use of the term describing Marius' "policies" as proscriptions though. And definetely the brutality of Sulla's reign was on a level not seen before by a large margin.

Excellent- really enjoyed it! If I remember correctly Scipio Asiaticus said that Sulla was “both the lion and the fox...” [the lion cos he was strong and ferocious, the fox cos he was cunning and could avoid traps] “...and of them both it is the fox that you should fear.”-No better friend! No worse enemy!

@devinlabuda5713

4 жыл бұрын

This is an example of a good comment. Thank you for sharing that.

@garys9693

4 жыл бұрын

Devin Labuda what a cool thing to say- thanks

@Hborn

3 жыл бұрын

87

Sulla's brutal policy with the proscriptions seems to give us an idea of what it would've been like had Pompey Magnus won the Civil War against Julius Caesar. Caesar was famous for showing clemency to all those who fought against him. He would have definitely done the same for Pompey had Ptolemy XIII not betrayed and murdered him on arrival. However, Pompey was Sulla's lieutenant during the Sulla-Marius Civil War, or as I like to call it "The Consul Wars" so he might've taken a page from the man who gave him the moniker "Magnus" meaning "the Great". Plus, kudos to Caesar for having Pompey and Crassus on his side. I'm guessing he understood that it was much better to have them with him than against him, and it worked...for a time at least.

@jimmytheshadowleviathan7243

Жыл бұрын

no, it wouldnt have. pompey was definitely going to be like caesar (dictator) but he definitely was going to have the senate with him, giving them a little authority. caesar just packed the senate with his boys. i think that pompey would have definitely been better as a dictator of rome. also, caesar was a propaganda lover, so i dont believe he really cared all that much about pompey.

@KTChamberlain

Жыл бұрын

@@jimmytheshadowleviathan7243 I doubt that considering Pompey once famously said in Sulla's civil war, "Cease quoting laws to those of us with swords" when the local magistrates were telling him that what he was doing was illegal, which it was. Remember weapons were illegal within the sacred city limits, aka the Pomerium.

@jimmytheshadowleviathan7243

Жыл бұрын

@@KTChamberlain caesar's cronies had weapons brought into the pomerium. you're essentially the pot calling the kettle black

@KTChamberlain

Жыл бұрын

@@jimmytheshadowleviathan7243 I know. Caesar and Pompey were both authoritarian as can be. My point however as history has shown us is that Caesar never had his enemies proscribed the way Sulla did. Octavian, Antony, and Lepidus did.

@jimmytheshadowleviathan7243

Жыл бұрын

@@KTChamberlain if even Cicero decided to join Pompey’s side, a man notorious for not picking sides, then it’s safe to assume that Pompey would have been better than ceasar

The O T H E R Sam Harris

@blaze6492

6 жыл бұрын

concars1234 i legit thought it was the same when I saw this in my recommendation

@Conorp77

5 жыл бұрын

Ahh

@sporkeh90

5 жыл бұрын

I was like huh is Sam into the Roman Empire, seems rather vulgar xD

@JavierBonillaC

4 жыл бұрын

Ohhh....

@ejakobs9881

4 жыл бұрын

You mean, the OTHER OTHER Same Harris

This is shockingly well made

“Are you feeling ill? Let me write you a prescription.” -Sulla MD

@sameerthakur720

3 жыл бұрын

My opponent, you are ill. I will write you a Proscription.

Defeats everyone Becomes dictator for life Resigns after 1 year Retires to a country side villa ABSOLUTELY BASED

This gives me the vibes of "fine I'll do it myself" I had a hard time finding someone who covered sulla in a good manner like this. Alot of people ramble and paint sulla as a villain without any fans. This is a great video kudos

I think leaving out Sulla's effect on the upper class was a big mistake. He had a list what they called "prescriptions" of who he wanted dead. This was mostly of rich people and his enemies. This took all of the strong individuals in the roman ruling class and butchered them. That means they killed all the wolf (or most) and left sheep to fill its place. Sulla and partly Marius are the reason why the senate was so weak going forward in Roman history. He also inspired Julius Caesar to cross the Rubicon and started the tradition of creating a list of rich people and enemies to kill. To add to people being inspired off of that, take a look at Augustus Caesar. He used his own version of "prescriptions" to butcher the senate and ruling class so they would be, "tamable". Because Sulla, Marius, Julius Caesar made the senate so weak by killing the "wolfs" of the ruling class they made it easy for Augustus to tame the senate and proclaim himself Emperor of Rome, thus starting the Roman Empire. In the end, Sulla ended the republic no matter how much he loved it.

@jebipasadegene

2 жыл бұрын

Buddy youre a little confused the senate butchered cesar

@martonferencz6110

2 жыл бұрын

@@jebipasadegene yes, however Caesar has installed many of his sympathisers to the Senate and removed many who he didn't like. It didn't work out for him in the end though.

@jebipasadegene

2 жыл бұрын

@@martonferencz6110 the senate viewed Cesar as a threat from the start, uprisings in gaul demanded he increase the army and the senat was angry cus they didnt give permission for this. Since the beginning they were against Cesar, and the man had revolutionary ideas for the time and was intent on truky helping roman people, where the senate was comprised of greedy rich men who wanted to uphold the status quo (the status quo being the continuation of rich more rich poor more poor syndrome)

@brucemacmillan9581

Жыл бұрын

Zach... it's PROSCRIPTIONS. Not PRESCRIPTIONS. Prescriptions are something you get from the pharmacy. Proscriptions are the forbidding and banning of something you don't like, or certain people you wish to eliminate.

@mikecoolwind7039

Жыл бұрын

@@jebipasadegene that is because you don’t understand human nature. A powerful senate has no need to kill Caesar. A weaning Senate does

Sulla would walk the streets without bodyguards during his retirement. He literally killed all the people who would do him harm. Sulla killed a ton of people.

Hey Historia Civilis guy start a new channel! nice.

@MrProtopopescovici

6 жыл бұрын

its a close voice but this dude confirmed he does not own the historia civilis channel. Pretty close voice though, almost fooled me as well :) Anyway im glad to see a lot of history oriented channels growing. Its so nice that nowadays we have so much knowledge open to us and available instantly via the internet. If somebody wanted to learn about rome or the greek colonies like 300-400 years ago you had to attend universities and such which was really expensive. I don't think we appreciate the internet for what it truly is.

@godwantsplastic

6 жыл бұрын

Hey John von Shepard use a real selfie!

@LOLquendoTV

6 жыл бұрын

Isnt the historia civilis guy canadian tho?

@browndd

6 жыл бұрын

Alex Tiberiu - I agree with both sentiments. Most people take for granted the amazing quality of life afforded to even the poorest of 1st world citizens in this day and age. A few hundred years ago most people were illiterate. A few hundred years before that only the wealthy could afford what we today would consider to be a basic education. The advent of the internet represents a milestone achievement in human history. It's every bit as important if not more so than such things as the invention of agriculture, the domestication of animals, the development of writing and mathematics or even the scientific method. It is a truly remarkable time to be alive.

@GrimFaceHunter

6 жыл бұрын

Historia Civilis guy said he was born in the second year of Reagan so he probably isn't Canadian.

The more I learn about Sula and Marius,the more I crave for someone to put these INCREDIBLE TRUE stories to life on the big or smallscreen. Like the HBO series Rome. I find the Sula and Marius stories just as fascinating as the Julius Caesar and Augustas stories. Great video. I thoroughly enjoyed it. For Those About To Die, We Salute You.

@Elandil5

5 жыл бұрын

If HBO ever decides to make a series like Rome again but in time of Sula and Marius they would make a lot of people happy and probably earn a lot of money.

@tristanrainey5080

4 жыл бұрын

Read Colleen McCullough's series. I've only read the first book, but it was brilliant.

"There are many Mariuses in this fellow Caesar!"

@sameerthakur720

3 жыл бұрын

What he said, "You don't know what you ask. That profligate fellow will be more trouble than a hundred Mariuses." What he did not say, but meant, "After all, Caesar is a Patrician and so, much more capable."

Was so exited that I'd found your your channel as I watched this. Only to learn this was your only video =( Great work!

The Poison King is a great recent book on the Mithradatic wars and on a good bit of Sulla vs Marius contexts from the other POV

@Irish16King

5 жыл бұрын

Historical book or fictional historical book?

@julianratering8500

5 жыл бұрын

@@Irish16King Its historical but somewhat romanticized as she speculates a lot about some minor things throughout the book and some of the 'drives' of the people partaking in the wars. Nonetheless the book is really enjoyable to read and certainly does do Mithradates VI of Pontus justice :) I have a huge interest in him!

@Tia-Marie

5 жыл бұрын

@Jake: It's a history book by a University professor, but in many places where we do not have any historical information as Julian says she does write "potential scenarios" upon what she always states beforehand is purely speculation based off of what individuals in his era and lifestyles that men of his stature of Persian and Macedonian background and combines it with speculations/gossip written by historians and biographers of antiquity, archeological data, histories by her contemporaries, and then a good deal of "speculative storytelling" using all of the aforementioned to make a more complete and human picture of a larger than life man who has a lot more myth than direct and personal information about him like we have access to with Cicero and his friends. I think it's an excellent read and the author has an academia background in Mediterranean antiquities, does a great job of explicitly pointing out when she strays both from the historical evidence but also when she's waxing romantic about what the great man might have been doing just based off of the general knowledge of how Macedonian and Persian kings lived. This book made me fall in love with studying what I've nicknamed "The Great Nemeses of Rome" Mithradates VI topped at my personal top after this book just for coolness and badass factors alone, even though Hannibal was the previous number 1 for moxy, and Vercingetorix coming in at a very tight 3rd, I'm still looking for 4th and 5th place... there are so many good ones to pick from! Either of you got a favourite enemy of rome?

@Tia-Marie

5 жыл бұрын

There is an anecdote about Sulla's last days and how the terrible state of his corpse was through the writings and gossip of his contemporaries, he'd died in the middle of this "verbal agreement" at peace with Mithradates VI which the king hadn't quite managed to get in writing due to the civil wars and Sulla moving out of public life. According to contemporaries of Sulla's time (so this might by political gossip, but it was written), his body was "ridden" with worms before death and due to something like probably really nasty sepsis his corpse stunk so badly that female friends of the dictator donated buttloads of perfumes, herbs, oils, and such that rode in procession around his body to cover up the stench from how badly infected/gross whatever it was that he eventually succumbed to was, and that "supposedly" it was a rainy day (quotes are mine because I haven't read that it specifically rained on the day of Sulla's funeral anywhere specific so this may be exaggeration) on the day his funeral pyre would go and this waxen sculpture of like frankincense (or something else I forget) had to get arranged on the litter with the corpse to attempt to cover up its smell between the procession and when the rain finally stopped so they could toss that fat lunk of stank on the fire. (PS: I haven't seen this video in six months, please forgive me if this anecdote is inside the video, I didn't rewatch it to uh make this comment but this story is in "The Poison King" and if you read it, you'll find where I misremembered or misspoke in this retelling).

@julianratering8500

5 жыл бұрын

@T.Tiro Marie I fully agree with you. This book made me fall in love with the history of Mithradates VI and I've been fascinated since! I'm studying history right now and I hope I will be able to do a project myself on him in the future.My list is as follows:1. Mithradates VI obviously for his almost mythical capabilities and his neverending fierceness.2. Vercingetorix, for he was the first Gaul (for what I know) to defeat Caesar (Siege of Gergovia)3. Hannibal, for he was an amazing nemesis of Rome who he fought even after the Punic wars.4. Jugurtha, for he was able to exploit the weaknesses within the Roman army to make his wars last longer.5. Decebalus of Dacia, he defeated the Romans decisively in the first war and was able to make a favorable peace treaty with them (even though they got annexed anyway not much later). This is exceptional as Romans do not tend to negotiate peace, especially at this time when the empire was at it's height.

I wrote an 2,000 word essay on some aspect of Sulla's life for my minor Roman History 101 at Uni. Pity this vid was not uploaded then - events would have been a lot clearer.

This is perfect. Keep it simple. Just checked your channel, you need to make more videos exactly like this one. No dramatic music, no verbosity...just the facts and some underwhelming visuals.

Please make more videos about Roman history! You did a great job on timing and pacing making sure not to bore people but also not too brief. The animations got the job done so nothing to complain about, especially since it wasn’t that seizure inducing animation style all the other big history/war channels use (not historia civilis, he’s great). But great video great pacing great channel. Make some more if possible man!

Awesome video, and that quote at the end is badass!

Top fascinating character in Roman History, his clemency was immense and so his life.

It's great that you did a youtube video on Sulla "The Bloody Reformer". He doesn't seem to be well known among the amateur historyphiles on the internet. I would like to suggest you do a much longer video on Sulla and the other great dictators during the period of the Republic's decline. Well done.

“No friend ever served me, and no enemy ever wronged me, whom I have not repaid in full.” -- Gen Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix. ...

I gotta agree with the horrendous animations part, but I really love it that someone is trying to educate more people on important bits of Roman history on youtube. Way to go!

I literally thought i was watching Historia Civilis not just because of your voice but your well made video keep up.

Wow dude this is great. I'm adding you to my History buffs list of youtubers

@zeusammon1874

6 жыл бұрын

Pssst, ei roman boy .... I have some greek stuff in my channel ya might wanna check eh. You didnt hear it from me. Long live Sulla

@triattackambipom1961

4 жыл бұрын

@@charlesferdinand422 Imagine writing out paragraphs flaming somebody who left a comment a year ago, you need to chill dude

@Mark-xq7lh

4 жыл бұрын

@@charlesferdinand422 nice job nerd

I love history I'm surprised I never heard of this guy

Great video, it would be fantastic if you created more! The inclusion of sources at the end is the cherry on top for someone trying to research these topics.

Appreciate the videos....very informative. Please keep them coming!!

Whos the feeling when your very first video hits +10k views? :) You deserved it tho, its great video!

I think Julius Caesar was married to Sulla's daughter at one stage and when a friend of a friend of hers was involved in a religious scandal (The Bona Dea cult) Caesar divorced her saying that Caesar's wife should be above suspicion.Colleen McCullogh, the Australian novelist, gives a vivid account of the life of Sulla in her historical novels series set in Republican Rome.

@tommyodonovan3883

6 жыл бұрын

Kalo Arepo Sulla was married to Caesar's older sister Julia.

@kaloarepo288

6 жыл бұрын

So who was the lady involved in the "Caesar';s wife must be above suspicion" quip? In Colleen McCullogh's novel "The Grass Crown" a young Julius caesar is saved from almost certain death by he and some others putting on a theatrical performance as they knew that Sulla loved plays and theatrical performances of all kinds.

@tommyodonovan3883

6 жыл бұрын

Kalo Arepo you may also be right about Sulla's Daughter being married to Caesar.

@kaloarepo288

6 жыл бұрын

Tommy O Donovan -I think she was called Aelia and she was very pretty but a bit of an airhead if I remember the plot of the novel correctly. McCullogh used the university of Sydney's Classics department for the research behind her novels and they are usually pretty accurate on details using Plutarch and Sulla's own Memoirs as source material.He did write memoirs that survive.

@Shelmerdine745

6 жыл бұрын

Sulla is such an interesting person. He could have become the first Roman emperor (as we understand the title), but chose to simple retreat at the peak of his power. I never heard that his memoirs survived. Please provide more information on that.

Fantastic content. Don't worry about the animation. This is just as informative as other, more polished videos from creators with larger budgets, and that includes TLC, A&E as well as the "History" Channel. Keep it up, because I'll be watching. Thanks for the great videos!

Really enjoyed your video. Please keep them coming!

Julius Caesar was on Sulla's proscription list, but was talked out of it.

@marcokite

4 жыл бұрын

yes is it true Caesar's mother saved him by interceding?

@taroman7100

4 жыл бұрын

that damned upstart

@dyingearth

4 жыл бұрын

@@marcokite one reason, unlike his successors Anthony and Octavian, Caesar never implemented a proscription. He prefers to strip his enemies of property and exile.

@teegamew766

4 жыл бұрын

@@dyingearth Not to mention actually he pardoned a great deal of them giving them commands, lands, and titles.

5:14 Your drawing of Marius running to Africa killed me

@leo2312

2 жыл бұрын

He's doing the Batman run.

You know, after hearing references to him in Historia Civilis’s videos, I didn’t expect his ending to be like this.

Thanks! Yes, the graphics aren't top notch but I still enjoyed this because it made the sequence of events very clear! Great work!

You're animation skill it's great! Best history channel I found in deeps of you tube...

Colleen McCollough's novels, The First Man in Rome, The Grass Crown and Fortune's Favourites tell us a lot about Marius and Sulla, with a bit of her own imagination thrown in.

Really nice video ! I hope that you continue making more of them.

Such an amazingly realistic recreations of their bodies. 10/10

Is this the creator of Historia Civilis? For a minute I thought I was listening to the same person.

@SamHarris-YT

6 жыл бұрын

No, Historia Civilis and I are not the same person. You're not the first to mistake our voices though!

@user-yh4tc5vh5f

6 жыл бұрын

Sam Harris I see. Good content though. The republican era is a little overdone in KZread, I hope your channel gives some love to the post-Augustan principate and late Roman empire.

@bredmond812

6 жыл бұрын

I was going to say something about that too, but i post too much in the comments section, so I didn't. I could tell the difference anyway, but only after a while.

@goranperssonfanaccount1956

6 жыл бұрын

Sam Harris and is your name Sam harris? It isn't named after the other Sam harris?

@InsideTheDogWorld

6 жыл бұрын

dude me too. Thought I found the real name of Historia Civils! :D

Sulla: I have it all, finally Sulla's wife and lover: Sulla, we have a free house Sulla: Well, imma head out, someone else can have all this. Ceasar: well if your offering ...

Really good video, can't wait to see more!

This channel have one video about roman history. Yet it's far better than any other channel in the youtube galaxy.

the alpha version of caesar

@worsethanjoerogan8061

6 жыл бұрын

He certainly dealt the first blow to the Republic

@ouss

6 жыл бұрын

i swear there are a forum somewhere just to spread/spam this rumor that"he dealt the first blow to the Republic" i heard too much

@luisdergroe8944

6 жыл бұрын

Even so both of them were dictators, sulla was a optimate and Caesar supported the populares. Caesers aunt was Even married to gaius Marius, sullas Enemy and therefor gaius Marius was kind of Julius Caesars uncle.

@illerac84

6 жыл бұрын

You'd crap your pants if you were in the presence of Sulla, so you may as well stop with the tough guy routine.

@illerac84

6 жыл бұрын

You're clearly trying to troll. Sulla was a person to fear and respect. What he decided to do on the personal side really doesn't matter. But it's interesting that you believe an alpha needs to be a pure hetero, given the Romans clearly didn't care about it.

Amazing as usual. Why does Hollywood treat sulla so negatively in movies for it's crazy how he is always the bad guy!

@aintnoway686

3 жыл бұрын

The Proscriptions kinda did that

Well done Sir. Most enjoyable and informative.

I greatly appreciate channel's of such quality content, seldom do I so much as hear of this important period of human history, as we are riding a similar path, just with improved technology.

Hi! Very, very cool video. I enjoyed it very much!

4:20 The Social War wasn't exactly Romans fighting Romans. That was the whole point of that mess.

@v44n7

4 жыл бұрын

but it ensured that, after that, it was roman vs romans ha ha

@Hugh_Morris

3 жыл бұрын

Roman vs Roman armies. The Socii had no voting rights but made up 60% of Romes armies at this stage, so that means both sides were made up of mostly Socii.

Great video! Love the stick guys with the actual heads! Good idea! Cheers from Canada!

This was a great, concise video. I'd love to view more, if you'll make them.

Gaius Marius is Megatron with a heart and Sulla is a calculative Starscream.

Me. "Oh neat, another history YT channel." Sam. *quotes sources* Me. "Thrice I offered him a kingly crown..."

Roman history takes up alot of my time. This synopsis was very much to my liking. In fact very good work!

Amazing job, thank you so much

Are we related? 😁

Gotta love the way he drained the swamp when in office.

I'm extremely impressed by this video. Great work.

This was fantastic, please do more!! augustus' works post civil war would be amazing

Nice man, do you plan to do new lectures? You are good you should keep it up.

@SamHarris-YT

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you, more coming soon!

@bredmond812

6 жыл бұрын

+i hope so

@nikkichick143

4 жыл бұрын

@@SamHarris-YT liar

When you lived long enough to become the villain, but try to walk it back not realizing you can't close pandora's box

Your doing great thanks for the awesome video!

This was really good! Be proud of this! It's awesome!

The “male lover” threw me off lol.

@YvonTripper

4 жыл бұрын

Wow, it sounds like you had quite a night

@taroman7100

4 жыл бұрын

yah, me too. I had to go back and replay twice? It's like booooying! wait? what?

@justchilling704

4 жыл бұрын

@@taroman7100 Lol me too. I guess his wife was okay with him cheating? With a man too 😳

@smithpeter3629

4 жыл бұрын

Roman men having male lovers was usual, until "Christianity" came to deny the obvious and foster hypocrisy as is the situation today.

@justchilling704

4 жыл бұрын

Smith Peter I think you mean it “wasn’t unusual” for Roman men to have a bad case of butt lust. As for your strange remark about Christianity fostering hypocrisy, it can’t be so, Christ taught explicitly against hypocrisy, just bc some butt lusted priest is a hypocrite doesn’t mean that Christianity is what fostered it in him, besides bro plenty of Romans weren’t fans of butt love.

Seriously Sam Harris, you have only uploaded one (un, 1) video since 2017? By the way, I enjoyed your animations. You did great, but I'm still waiting for the next video.

Your animations are very refreshing :D

Waiting for the next video! :)

He pulled a George Washington

"His wife and male lover" Oh wow... So this is the real ancient bisexual Ménage à trois...

@admontblanc

5 жыл бұрын

And adding to the spice, his wife was his older sister or half sister.

@mhikosale7233

4 жыл бұрын

@@admontblanc sweet home alabama

@umpdaddy1

4 жыл бұрын

Apparently, his male lover was his true love and a famous actor and entertainer of the day named Metrobius.

@buckplug2423

3 жыл бұрын

that must make for really awkward dinners

Not often you see sources in a video! Great work man

I enjoyed the visuals.Great work.I love history

Sulla: THERE WILL BE NO MORE DICTATOR VIVAE. Caesar: Are you sure about that?

”It’s over, Mithridates! I have the high ground!”

@OdintheGermanShepherd

2 жыл бұрын

LOLOL!!

great job! thanks for the vid

Great video, i really liked the animations :)

This is what helped lead to the end of the republic. Ceasar must have taken inspiration from Sulla when he crossed the Rubicon.

@NightWanderer31415

5 жыл бұрын

Sulla crossed a line, but not the first line.

Personally i really liked the stick men and ms paint work

Fantastic Video, Top quality!

Very helpful illustrations. *subscribed*

It's always amusing to me to add "which is like, super rude" to historical events. "He organised the slaughter of 80.000 man women and children. Which is like, super rude."

Sulla was a homocidal psychopath like most Roman generals (read what he did in Asia Minor to the cities that defected to Mithridates, with mass slaughter and tax torturers). I definitely wouldn't agree that he was 'great' in the Alexander sense of the word, but this is a clever, entertaining video nonetheless. The stick bodies add a touch of humor and helps hold your attention. Smooth flow to the video and you didn't paste some dry, generic soundtrack or dubstep. Tasteful, well thought out and well done. Make more videos.

@nathanglazier7460

6 жыл бұрын

honestly that makes him sound much more like he *was* great in the alexander sense.

@AbbeyRoadkill1

6 жыл бұрын

I guess it depends on if you think killing more people than anyone else makes you great - I happen to think it doesn't.

@knightheaven8992

6 жыл бұрын

The point is Alexander killed a lot of people too.

@knightheaven8992

6 жыл бұрын

He was kinda of an Egomaniac. Not sure what you mean with noble intentions. His war against the Persians was probably based on a false pretext, that they killed his father, where it is more then likely that he and his mother were behind it, as they killed all claimants to the throne pretty soon after Philips death. Also making his army march trough the Gedrosian Desert on its way home, was nothing short of a punishment for his men refusing to continue his India campaign, ( after already killed a bunch back on India.) Or how he ended up killing one of his friends Cleitus, in an Alcohol and drug stupor, how he ended up allowing the burn of Persepolis, for no apparent reason. He is called Great, because of what he accomplished first and foremost, not because he was Noble of heart. There is a lot of Traits in Alexanders character that are far from noble. At any case, it is a bit simplistic to frame this historical figures, in the frame of our morals today.

@fortemcaledonii5197

6 жыл бұрын

Alexander the great and many others achieved power in the way that it was done at the time. Sorry but back then little beta pussies got thrown off the cliff, your opinion wouldn't have existed, and you should stop looking at history through a modern context.

I think this channel is going to get big :) love it

Thank you so much! Sulla doesn't get enough attention, but he was critical in the fall of the Republic!

Wait a second... you're not sam harris

Good presentation. Moves with balance.

Nice to see Historia Civilus' alt channel

Is this Historia civils!

Ceasar would totally not end up being a dictator of Rome in a few decades.

@gaiusjuliuscaesar2319

3 жыл бұрын

😏

Well done, interesting topic :) As for your animations, what program did you use? I myself have been stretching the limits of PowerPoint (which allows for surprisingly much).

Loved your video. You should do it again

when things start to fall apart people like Sulla get their chance...great talent with no sense for the way things that go around come back around sooner or later in this life or later.

@constantinethetrickster9661

6 жыл бұрын

I don't know. Its obvious he grabbed power because he thought Rome needed reforms. He made sure nobody could do what he did and then retired. He was sick of the political power plays I guess. Then again he did pave the way for the Triumvirate and Ceasers dictator for life.

@jesuisravi

5 жыл бұрын

Friend, I hope some day you don't find yourself at the mercy of some political power star who merely suspects you may cause him trouble somewhere down the road. Anyway, it is a pretty cheap shot these days to apologize for big shot murderers. Even mainstream pols do it.