The Leather Element: Comparing Alcohol Dyes to Oil Dyes

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On this week's "The Leather Element," Chuck Dorsett addresses the confusion surrounding leather dyes. What makes one leather dye an alcohol dye and another an oil dye if they both have alcohol in them? What's the difference between Fiebing's® Pro Dye vs. regular dye? Watch this video to get answers from a leathercraft expert.
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  • @Graeme758
    @Graeme7584 жыл бұрын

    I always end up with a darker shade than intended because I keep recoating until it's even. Just about to buy some new colours and it will be Pro dye this time. Thanks. And just want to say, one of the best leatherworking youtube channels, so many are stuffed with waffles and seem to to be aimed at the hard of understanding, with huge over explaining. Chuck is enthusiastic, clear and concise, just enough chat to make it friendly and not seem like a university lecture. Great stuff.

  • @enki2958

    @enki2958

    2 жыл бұрын

    For an even coating I would recommend using a sponge (best a cotton sponge). This way you get an even coating with the first application.

  • @gregmccaddon6077
    @gregmccaddon60774 жыл бұрын

    Thank you. I'm two years into my hobby and have steadily become frustrated with my water-based dyes for the same issues you mentioned with the alcohol based dyes. I now know which direction I need to go to improve my outcome.

  • @hellorin
    @hellorin6 жыл бұрын

    cant help but admire your storytelling capabilities.

  • @ethansandomire1110
    @ethansandomire11105 жыл бұрын

    thanks, this vid really convinced me to get pro dye over the other dye. I wanted light brown. Also another neat tip I learned is that if the dye is too dark, add some denatured alcohol to lighten it up

  • @bagramdave883
    @bagramdave8834 жыл бұрын

    Watching everything again. Thanks for both the content AND the presentation. You make perfect sense to me and I dig the pace.

  • @WeaverLeatherSupply

    @WeaverLeatherSupply

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much!

  • @sonofhibbs4425
    @sonofhibbs44253 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this so much! I had been using alcohol based dyes and was having all the problems you mentioned. Hated the hardness after, plus I had issues with it rubbing off. The other thing I absolutely hate about alcohol based leather dye is that it dries up- completely..if you don’t use it right away or fast enough. I fell ill for 6 years, unable to get to any leather working and just before that occurred I bought ALL the colors. Probably only used a few once, and now that I’m back up and running again, went to use them and they are dried up. Gone. 🤬 Luckily, I also bought a few oil based leather dyes and they are still full. Don’t know much about them though, which led me to your video here. Thanks again.

  • @jenkowales
    @jenkowales6 жыл бұрын

    Got to be fair very intuitive and good to watch.

  • @silverwiskers7371
    @silverwiskers73715 жыл бұрын

    I will start dip dieing after a video I saw you dipped, it makes perfect sense, getting it evenly has drove me nuts and I almost ruined several projects from uneven die laying

  • @WeaverLeatherSupply

    @WeaverLeatherSupply

    5 жыл бұрын

    Awesome, let us know how it works for you!

  • @TheLupulalb
    @TheLupulalb6 жыл бұрын

    From Romania a great THANK YOU !!! .... Multumesc !

  • @CosplayOnABudget
    @CosplayOnABudget2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much! New to leather work and was very confused about the different types of dye.

  • @moyeramoyer8478
    @moyeramoyer84786 жыл бұрын

    look at the patterns on the wall! yes!

  • @caribare8649
    @caribare86496 жыл бұрын

    I also dip dye, with Fiebings. Even color, rich finish, good advice

  • @phondo2
    @phondo25 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Chuck!

  • @jdlank
    @jdlank5 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant video, incredibly helpful. Thank you very much 👍👍👍

  • @berg6964
    @berg69645 ай бұрын

    Always enjoy your videos!

  • @sergiogrima8331
    @sergiogrima83313 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this great explanation!

  • @sherreep3
    @sherreep33 жыл бұрын

    awesome information - thank you!! And so well presented.

  • @jonathantice9387
    @jonathantice93876 жыл бұрын

    Thankyou

  • @leatherman651
    @leatherman6516 жыл бұрын

    Good information, thanks for presenting it. The way you praise oil dye makes me wonder why anyone would use an alcohol based dye. I've tried the Pro Dye and was very disappointed, but then learned it was the leather quality from a chain store that was the problem. I will give it another try on some better quality veg tan. Thanks for the video.

  • @WeaverLeatherSupply

    @WeaverLeatherSupply

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for watching! Hopefully the Pro Dye will work better for you this time!

  • @derptothemaxclearly
    @derptothemaxclearly5 жыл бұрын

    Outstanding thank you sir.

  • @emilydyer1383
    @emilydyer13834 жыл бұрын

    Great information. Your videos are very informative and fun. Thank-you

  • @WeaverLeatherSupply

    @WeaverLeatherSupply

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, Emily!

  • @BenSamaChan
    @BenSamaChan3 жыл бұрын

    Great vid!

  • @outbackdigital
    @outbackdigital5 жыл бұрын

    Giday, I saw you mention about after dying leather with some dyes your leather will get hard and not be pliable.I am of the thought that you will allready know of this idea , before dying leaher coat the leather with Neatsfoot oil and the dye will still apply nicely and the leather will be soft and fl;exable after....

  • @keithlehman1621
    @keithlehman16216 жыл бұрын

    I alleviate problem with alcohol dyes (although still prefer Pro Dyes) by rubbing "Bee Natural" Saddle Oil Dye with Fungicides before dyeing. When I pre-oil leather before dyeing, the dye spreads on better without using dipping method. This video points out how "light" color dyes that are not Pro dyes aren't light at all - a fact and something that can be frustrating. Weaver produces best videos in leather business.

  • @WeaverLeatherSupply

    @WeaverLeatherSupply

    6 жыл бұрын

    Keith! Nice technique. I have heard of a number of preparations, but I have always been so concerned with introducing anything to the leather before dye; however, with your input, I want to try this immediately! I have always dip dyed because of speed (mostly) and outcome, but now that I’m not in a production situation, the speed isn’t really an issue. It sounds like this works nicely for you and I can’t wait to give it a try! Great tip and a very welcome comment!

  • @Beast9894
    @Beast98945 жыл бұрын

    Holy shit that armor in the back!

  • @sonofhibbs4425

    @sonofhibbs4425

    3 жыл бұрын

    I know, right?!!

  • @countingsheeple2428
    @countingsheeple24285 жыл бұрын

    Thanks man! From Iowa!!

  • @boashna
    @boashna4 жыл бұрын

    bravo good info

  • @jedrzejstrzelecki6178
    @jedrzejstrzelecki61785 жыл бұрын

    Hi guys! One question. When I want hardened dyed leather using pro dye should harden it first or first dye then harden?

  • @JB-qr7jc
    @JB-qr7jc4 жыл бұрын

    Would you recommend using the pro dye to dye leather boots?

  • @kbowser4127
    @kbowser41276 жыл бұрын

    Subscribed as soon as you said you might be part of the problem!! Honesty above all!! Lol

  • @ColleenTempleart
    @ColleenTempleart2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! Wish I knew this before I bought all my alcohol based dyes! Yep, my projects are stiff and one lightly cracked! :( But live and learn. How’s the cleanup for pro dyes?

  • @rifkifajar5519
    @rifkifajar55193 жыл бұрын

    what kind of thinner is good for leather paint? I mix it with paint powder.

  • @alwaleedalqahtani4225
    @alwaleedalqahtani42252 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for that valuable information. I’m not a big fan of the dye thats on my project, and I wanna strip it off. Any advice regarding that? Also, I don’t think dip-dying would be an option for me since my project is already constructed

  • @WobblingHobGoblin
    @WobblingHobGoblin2 жыл бұрын

    Love the vids Chuck. What do you think about Eco flo water based dyes? I'm just starting out with leather crafting and am looking at different leather coloring options. Maybe I am better off getting my leather already dyed from the tannery? Cheers, you are a true inspiration!

  • @epiendless1128
    @epiendless11283 жыл бұрын

    Glad you're having trouble with the non-pro dye - now I know it's not just me! Inconsistent, too dark, and hardens the leather. Snap. Pro dye from now on!

  • @SirPalandar
    @SirPalandar6 жыл бұрын

    Hi Chuck, Thank you for the great videos! Do you dip die your belts and armor also? How do you prevent bleed? My concern is dip dying a pair of bracers or a belt and having them ruin someones costume? Is that even a concern with the pro dye? Thanks in advance, Mike

  • @jj.1412

    @jj.1412

    6 жыл бұрын

    I'd like to know the answer to this too, please and thanks!

  • @MsMassabielle
    @MsMassabielle5 жыл бұрын

    You rock!

  • @aminals8933
    @aminals8933 Жыл бұрын

    If you use a paintbrush and paint just the top coat of a veg tan hide after neatsfooting it and letting it set for 24 hours then you can get some really cool and long lasting designs out of alcohol dye. I even use ink stamps with alcohol dye and the patterns lay because so little dye is needed.

  • @trapper9396
    @trapper93965 жыл бұрын

    Hi Chuck, Thanks for the helpful video. I do have a question though. Is the Pro Dye okay to use for products that will touch the skin? Or am I about to stain my granddaughter"s arm a very nice shade of blue?

  • @WeaverLeatherSupply

    @WeaverLeatherSupply

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hi Matthew, Pro Dye has very little rub off but we would suggest putting the dye on just the front of the item if it's going to be worn against the skin. You can check out our arm guard or eye mask tutorial to see how Chuck dyes those items and only puts the dye on the front. kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZWV308elgsrTZ7A.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/qXhrlsmMlKa4dpc.html

  • @deovindice1799
    @deovindice17994 жыл бұрын

    Chuck, your tutorials have really upped my leather crafting and this video has cleared up a big question that I had. I cannot believe how many people who work with leather do not know the difference between the dyes! I've slowly replaced all of my alcohol dyed with pro dye. Rub off was the driving me insane. With the oil dye it often seems nonexistent. One problem though, they don't make oxblood in the pro dye and it's my favorite color on leather! Do you happen to have a formula for or advice on color mixing my own blend of oxblood pro dye?

  • @WeaverLeatherSupply

    @WeaverLeatherSupply

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hi Deo! So glad the ProDye is working out good for you! I would say the Pro Mahogany is a good oxblood, but, if you need to bring the color down just add a touch of black Pro. Start with a very small amount like an 8:1 and see what that does. The black will bring it down pretty quick so make small adjustments and see if that gets you where you want to be.

  • @zachjarrett8730

    @zachjarrett8730

    Жыл бұрын

    This is also my conundrum. I will try black, but my instinct is to add red to the mahogany. This said, I trust Chuck’s advice and experience.

  • @aphyngodiva2551
    @aphyngodiva25515 жыл бұрын

    How do you feel about acrylic paint on leather? I imagine it would crack and peel pretty badly/easily even with protection but I find the wide range of products and colors appealing and that it goes on as a solid color leaving no base leather color to influence the color. I'm completely new to leatherworking and am wondering how much of a bad idea acrylics would be or if it isn't as bad as I think, maybe it's only for certain projects, etc. Interested in knowing what you think! Love your channel! Thanks!

  • @WeaverLeatherSupply

    @WeaverLeatherSupply

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hi there, We recommend Angelus® acrylic paint, it goes on beautifully and we haven't had any issues with it cracking. The paint is designed to be used on shoes so it can be flexed and bent without cracking or peeling. You can check it out here: www.weaverleathersupply.com/catalog/cp_/shop-now/leather-care/angelus

  • @relivec
    @relivec4 жыл бұрын

    What would happen if I brushed pro dye onto suede? Do you by chance have a video on this? Thank you

  • @WeaverLeatherSupply

    @WeaverLeatherSupply

    4 жыл бұрын

    I would recommend using a dye that is made for suede, I believe Fiebing's may sell one specifically for that.

  • @ginnysimpson5232
    @ginnysimpson52324 жыл бұрын

    What's the best way to dye a purse?

  • @rashellegenik3269
    @rashellegenik32695 жыл бұрын

    i really enjoyed your video thanks for making it. i read that the 2 different colors on one swatch was because of a top coat, what do you use as a top coat? that and i an trying to tan my own hide from start to finish, it is not veg tanned, would these products work on my fur on hide?

  • @WeaverLeatherSupply

    @WeaverLeatherSupply

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hi Rashelle, My favorite top coat to use is Feibings Leather Balm with Atom Wax. This product is easy to use and adds a beautiful finish to most any leather. I’ve never tried any of these on a fur on hide specifically so your best bet is to maybe just test it out on a small piece and see if it gives you the desired result. Good luck! www.weaverleathersupply.com/catalog/item-detail/50-2189/fiebings-leather/pr_27339/cp_/shop-now/leather-care/dyes-paints-finishes/top-coat

  • @rashellegenik3269

    @rashellegenik3269

    5 жыл бұрын

    thank you so much!

  • @WilliamSmith-lb9jw
    @WilliamSmith-lb9jw5 жыл бұрын

    now i understand!!!!!

  • @Sylvieon1
    @Sylvieon14 жыл бұрын

    Hi Chuck, Hallo from Canada! You spread so much energy and good information, you're fun to watch!!! I recently experienced the color problem with the alcohol dye.....the light brown is definitely not a light brow, how you would expect it. But I was in a bind and needed a bigger quantity, so I went with the alcohol dye......not happy about it ! I prefer the pro dye but have problems getting big quantity's of the pro dye in Canada and don't know, if weaver would be able to send me the bigger containers, because of cross boarder shipping. Have you ever tried to mix the alcohol dye with some Neatsfoot oil, to get a dye that has similar effects than the pro dye to leather? Saw someone commenting on oiling the leather first, before applying the alcohol dye......does that work ??

  • @Sylvieon1

    @Sylvieon1

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Chuck , keep up the good work !!

  • @WeaverLeatherSupply

    @WeaverLeatherSupply

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hello Canada! So glad the videos are working for you! And yes, we all have that “I have to use what I’ve got” and it rarely works out. I’ve heard of folks adding oil to dye but I never have and I am hesitant to add oil to the leather before adding dye. Oil is so tough to get consistent and if there’s too much it will resist all manner of dye, adhesive, paint, top coat… I’ll put in a question and see what we are able to do with shipping.

  • @victorwilliams64
    @victorwilliams642 жыл бұрын

    I have a light brown boot that i want to dye tan whats the best dye to use

  • @jillneeld477
    @jillneeld477 Жыл бұрын

    I have an old suede jacket that is faded out in places but is still a beautiful thick suede leather. I’d like it the original color, but there are places on it lighter and darker ? Questions 1. Surface prep ? 2. Color ? Do I need to go to like a chocolate brown to get consistent color ?

  • @ghoststephens
    @ghoststephens5 жыл бұрын

    Hey Weaver! Any tips on how to remove an antique coat? I'm using Fiebings Antique and for reasons unknown the antique is coming out in a lot of areas both with stamped places and on flat areas. But it leaves my project looking really messy and I want to get the rest of the antique out so I can redo it. Any advice?

  • @WeaverLeatherSupply

    @WeaverLeatherSupply

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hi Mahonri, Chuck is doing some testing with Fiebing's Deglazer to see if that works, we'll get back to you if we come up with anything!

  • @MrRackenstein
    @MrRackenstein5 жыл бұрын

    I read on some gun forum the pro dye is more color accurate.. The regular fiebings med brown can get really dark with a little red hue,almost look like the mahogany/burgundy one.. Have you tried the Angelus dye?

  • @WeaverLeatherSupply

    @WeaverLeatherSupply

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hi Imi, I have not tried the Angelus Dye but the Angelus Acrylic Paints are great to work with so it's a good brand! Pro Dye is by far my most recommended dye to use. You get great coverage and minimum rub off. Hope that helps!

  • @charlesciccarelli3435
    @charlesciccarelli34354 жыл бұрын

    I like to make inlay sheaths (leather border over snakeskin). Is it just as easy to secure (glue with Barges) a piece of “dip died” top piece to the project or should I stick with my current method of just dying the top and edges of the top piece?

  • @WeaverLeatherSupply

    @WeaverLeatherSupply

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hi Charles, As long as the dye is dry, the dip dyeing shouldn't make a difference in the hold of the glue. Thanks!

  • @michaelsantana5781
    @michaelsantana57814 жыл бұрын

    Hey Chuck, I'm new to leathercraft just finished my first project it came out great. It was a chrome tan dark brown leather wallet. I bought veg tan leather with the intent to dye it. Unfortunately i live in California where Pro Dye is not allowed. Any suggestions? I'm worried about rub off and hardening the leather. Any alternatives?

  • @WeaverLeatherSupply

    @WeaverLeatherSupply

    4 жыл бұрын

    HI Michael, I've heard really good things about Angelus Dye and I'm going to try it myself soon. I would give that a try!

  • @michaelsantana5781

    @michaelsantana5781

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@andreasL4114 sounds great brother, I'll give it a shot. Thank you for the advice 🍻

  • @beverlymyers3552
    @beverlymyers35524 жыл бұрын

    I did not use oil based dye and it is stiff after a couple of weeks. Can I apply mink oil or neatsfoot oil to my project? If not are there any alternative ideas to soften up the leather I already dyed? Thank you. I enjoy your show and have learned so much.

  • @WeaverLeatherSupply

    @WeaverLeatherSupply

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hi Beverly, Yes, you can use a conditioner or oil to put some moisture back into the leather. So glad you enjoy the videos, thank you for watching!

  • @spurdude77
    @spurdude775 жыл бұрын

    I do air brush with oil dye. is there a way to thicken oil based dye? neetsfoot maybe?

  • @WeaverLeatherSupply

    @WeaverLeatherSupply

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hello, I am sorry but I don't have an answer for you on that, I've never tried to thicken dye. Let me know if you find something that works though!

  • @barsan1971
    @barsan19716 жыл бұрын

    Did Chuck mean to grab the Oil Dye or the Pro Dye? Thank you for a clearer explanation of the differences.

  • @WeaverLeatherSupply

    @WeaverLeatherSupply

    6 жыл бұрын

    Hi there. So, they actually rebranded the Oil Dye into Pro Dye. It's the same formula, and it's what I prefer. The alcohol dye with the powder base is just called "Leather Dye," and the bottle is not in the video. Sorry for any confusion.

  • @Dremeli

    @Dremeli

    6 жыл бұрын

    When I started leatherwork, Pro Dye and Oil Dye confused me quite a lot. I had no idea they're basically same thing.

  • @sgtstumpy
    @sgtstumpy5 жыл бұрын

    If I have a pair of finished leather boots, currently butterscotch finish. I'd like to take them to an Oxblood finish. Can I just use the pro dye right over the finished boot to change the color, or do I have to strip the finish for the dye to be absorbed? also how should I refinish the leather once they are dyed the new color?

  • @WeaverLeatherSupply

    @WeaverLeatherSupply

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hi Nate, You will need to use a deglazer first to remove the top coat and allow the dye to soak in. Once they are dyed to the new color you will want to add some sort of shoe polish to seal in the color and protect from the elements. If it's possible, test the dye first to make sure it's what you want since the boots already have a color on them it might not look like it would on natural leather. Hope this helps!

  • @rainupierce7459
    @rainupierce74594 жыл бұрын

    Sounds like Fiebings Pro Dye is the way to go. I am looking for a grey color which is not available in that line. Any suggestions?

  • @WeaverLeatherSupply

    @WeaverLeatherSupply

    4 жыл бұрын

    I am sorry to say that I don’t have a good answer for a gray dye. If you find something let me know!

  • @taylerbarber1626
    @taylerbarber16265 жыл бұрын

    Great Information. I'm reupholstering a chair. The edges of the chair cushions and arm pads are salvaged leather from a purple leather sofa. I'm going to dip dye them black, will I need to seal the leather with anything. I'm going to use the oil base dye.

  • @WeaverLeatherSupply

    @WeaverLeatherSupply

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hi Tayler, Make sure that any top coat is removed before you try dying these. I’d recommend hitting all the leather with Deglazer first and this will remove any top coat or sealer that may be present. This way the dye can then penetrate into the leather. After it is dyed yes, you will want to put a sealer on the leather again, I would use Top Coat 200 or RTC. www.weaverleathersupply.com/catalog/item-detail/50-1967/bee-natural-rtc/pr_27365/cp_/shop-now/leather-care/dyes-paints-finishes/top-coat www.weaverleathersupply.com/catalog/item-detail/50-3000/weaver-top-coat-200/pr_8200/cp_/shop-now/leather-care/dyes-paints-finishes/top-coat

  • @taylerbarber1626

    @taylerbarber1626

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@WeaverLeatherSupply I'll follow those instructions. Thank you so much.

  • @ocnightflyer1359
    @ocnightflyer13592 жыл бұрын

    you rock!

  • @asherdunlop7129
    @asherdunlop71293 жыл бұрын

    To ask a stupid question what is the coverage per oz of dye( non diluted) on veg tan leather?

  • @joelheffelfinger2253
    @joelheffelfinger22536 жыл бұрын

    How do you make the edges darker?

  • @WeaverLeatherSupply

    @WeaverLeatherSupply

    6 жыл бұрын

    Hi Joel. There are several ways to darken an edge. Gum Tragacanth (www.weaverleathersupply.com/catalog/item-detail/8163/001/224) will burnish the edge, making it a little darker, or, you can go with an Edge Coat or edge paint for a full color change. Strangely enough, a Sharpie works nicely and it’s a little easier to keep the paint/dye line on the edge more consistent.

  • @alpinepaolo
    @alpinepaolo4 жыл бұрын

    Hey there, I was wondering about using oil dye on wet formed leather? What sequence would you do? I am guessing wet form and set first then dip dye... many thanks in advance.

  • @WeaverLeatherSupply

    @WeaverLeatherSupply

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hi Paolo! Yes, the order you mentioned is correct - wet form and let dry completely and then dye and top coat. Hope that helps!

  • @alpinepaolo

    @alpinepaolo

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@WeaverLeatherSupply many thanks for the confirmation and information in your videos.

  • @MoosewithAneyePatch
    @MoosewithAneyePatch6 жыл бұрын

    Curious as to why your leather examples have 2 shades. Do you put a second coat to see what it will look like?

  • @dentoncox1059

    @dentoncox1059

    6 жыл бұрын

    MoosewithAneyePatch one half has a top finish the other is just dye.

  • @WeaverLeatherSupply

    @WeaverLeatherSupply

    6 жыл бұрын

    Moose, thanks for asking! The difference on the swatches is one side is just dye and the other is dye with a top coat.

  • @joliski
    @joliski5 жыл бұрын

    I buy the imported vegtan leather from Weaver Leather and I use Fiebings Pro Dye, but after drying my leather seems kind of stuff. I use a wool dauber to apply the dye and usually have to give it about two or three coats on both sides. Could this be the problem?

  • @WeaverLeatherSupply

    @WeaverLeatherSupply

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hi Joe, I’m not sure why the Pro Dye would make the leather stiff. It will add some body to it but not to the point it sounds like you’re seeing. Multiple coats will add a level of consistency, but, they need to be added at the same time. If one coat is added and dries and then a second is added then this may be adding some stiffness. I may suggest adding all three coats at the same time. If the leather remains stiff after this you can work it with your hands to soften it up. With use it will soften, but, this will speed up the process. See if this helps?

  • @joliski

    @joliski

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@WeaverLeatherSupply Yeah, I always do multiple coats at the same time. I'll try working the leather to loosen it up.

  • @myhubbyislouisvuitton4218
    @myhubbyislouisvuitton42185 жыл бұрын

    Its the first time I've dyed anything but I have several great quality leather bags and handbags that I would like to get use out of but I do not use them due to their colours. I'd like to dye a silver leather duffle bag black and also a white evening handbag black. Would you say that it would be better to use the Fieblings Pro Dye to achieve a more flexible leather and accurate colour? Also would Fieblings Pro Dye in black cover silver? Thanks for such a useful video.

  • @WeaverLeatherSupply

    @WeaverLeatherSupply

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hello, Yes, the Fiebings Pro Dye is the dye that we would use. The Black dye should completely cover up the silver, you may just need multiple applications. Before you dye the leather though, make sure you use deglazer to remove the top coat so that the dye will penetrate into the leather and once dyed be sure to reapply a top coat to prevent bleeding.

  • @myhubbyislouisvuitton4218

    @myhubbyislouisvuitton4218

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hi, Thank you so much for the quick response. I need to ask a really dumb question though, do I reapply a top coat of Fiebings Pro Dye once it has dried? Or do I need to use a different product as a top coat? Thanks again from across the pond.

  • @WeaverLeatherSupply

    @WeaverLeatherSupply

    5 жыл бұрын

    Sorry about that, I should have said sealer instead of a top coat, something to seal the dye. We recommend Tuff Kote Clear www.weaverleathersupply.com/catalog/item-detail/8067/001/113

  • @arnesandness7554
    @arnesandness75546 жыл бұрын

    Chuck, I'm getting ready to antique a basketweave stamped belt I just made. My question is, how do I keep the antiquing from getting on the BACK of the belt and leaving skid marks? I've done other small projects and wound up with this happening. But I really want to prevent this on my new belt. HELP!

  • @WeaverLeatherSupply

    @WeaverLeatherSupply

    6 жыл бұрын

    Arne, I know exactly what you mean and it’s a real issue. I can only suggest one thing and it’s not a perfect answer, but it does help if you are a little careful with the application. Painters tape or some kind of a quality masking tape will help. I’ll lay the tape so it’s sticking out beyond the edge of the panel/project and then trim it using the edge of the project as the straight edge. This will press the tape down and it gets the cut right to the edge. If the edge is already slicked and rounded you can lay the tape right to the edge, but press it down hard to get a good “stick." Hope this helps!

  • @arnesandness7554

    @arnesandness7554

    6 жыл бұрын

    That sounds like a great idea. I will definitely give that a try on this project. Thanks for your help. LOVE the videos!

  • @arnesandness7554

    @arnesandness7554

    6 жыл бұрын

    Just wanted to let you know your advice worked out perfectly. The belt is complete and there isn't a single skid mark on the back from the antiquing. THANK YOU!

  • @WeaverLeatherSupply

    @WeaverLeatherSupply

    6 жыл бұрын

    Glad to hear it, Arne! It's my pleasure.

  • @tomanderson3007
    @tomanderson30076 жыл бұрын

    Chuck, in your dip-dyeing operations do you "thin" or reduce the oil (Pro) dye with denatured alcohol or do you use it straight out of the bottle?

  • @WeaverLeatherSupply

    @WeaverLeatherSupply

    6 жыл бұрын

    Tom, I go straight from the bottle. You can absolutely dilute if that gets you to the color you’re looking for. In my experience, diluting just makes less of that color per coat and not a lighter color; however, it IS a more economical way to make the dye go further if a bit less color looks good to you. www.weaverleathersupply.com/catalog/ItemCatalogListing/001/221

  • @2eme_voltigeur652

    @2eme_voltigeur652

    6 жыл бұрын

    Can I pour the oil dye in a box, dip the leather and then return the left over dye in the bottle?

  • @samsnead9364
    @samsnead93644 жыл бұрын

    I have some Fiebings Low VOC dye, that's all my local hobby store had. What type of dye is it? Is it powder or oil?

  • @WeaverLeatherSupply

    @WeaverLeatherSupply

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hi Sam, Low VOC dye is alcohol based so it would be powder based dye. Hope that helps!

  • @samsnead9364

    @samsnead9364

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you. I thought so. I dip dyed a couple of holsters I made and it rubbed off the flesh side of the leather.

  • @kubeek
    @kubeek3 жыл бұрын

    I dyed my lether with oil dye by submerging the leather in dye and wiping the excess, then letting it sit for a day or two. Even with deep scoring on the seams the solvent based contact glue for leather has almost no strength to hold the layers. Is there some other type of glue or specific product that would hold better?

  • @WeaverLeatherSupply

    @WeaverLeatherSupply

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi there, I would suggest using Barge Cement, this shouldn't have any issues adhering to the leather unless it's coated in oil, The oil dye is also alcohol based and just has an oil based dye stuff so it shouldn't leave your leather with an oily feel.

  • @bluebowtieo4
    @bluebowtieo45 жыл бұрын

    What is the difference between fiebings pro dye and fiebings professional oil dye. They both are listed in their description as being alcohol based. I am confused

  • @WeaverLeatherSupply

    @WeaverLeatherSupply

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hi Jason, It can be very confusing. Fiebings Pro Dye and Professional Oil Dye are the same thing, it used to be called Professional oil dye and then they changed the name to Pro Dye a few years ago. This dye is alcohol based but the dyestuff is oil based whereas just regular Leather Dye is alcohol based with alcohol based dyestuff. You can check out the video linked to learn more about this: kzread.info/dash/bejne/rKOfysdvn9vOmsY.html

  • @bluebowtieo4

    @bluebowtieo4

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@WeaverLeatherSupply thanks because I was hesitant to buy not knowing the difference. I appreciate the info and the how to videos. Keep up the good work.

  • @timsssssssssssssssss
    @timsssssssssssssssss4 жыл бұрын

    Is it a must to use a sealant for oil dyes? It’s to be used on a furniture.

  • @WeaverLeatherSupply

    @WeaverLeatherSupply

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hi Timothy, You will want to put some kind of top coat or sealant on it to reduce the risk of dye rubbing off. Especially if it's going to be touching skin or clothing.

  • @angelorobles180
    @angelorobles1804 жыл бұрын

    Hi sir. Which one better for icy soles of shoes. Angelus leather dye or this fiebings? Are these fiebings scratch resitant? :-) thank you for your answer.

  • @WeaverLeatherSupply

    @WeaverLeatherSupply

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hi Angelo, I haven't actually experimented with Angelus dyes so I can't really give you a good answer on that one. I'll definitely have to try them out though - I've heard good things.

  • @angelorobles180

    @angelorobles180

    4 жыл бұрын

    But this fiebings dye is scratch resistant? :-)

  • @rogerd.hardin7156
    @rogerd.hardin71565 жыл бұрын

    What is your take on Fiebings oil based dyes vs Fiebings Low VOC leather dye ? I know the LOW VOC is water based. Does the Low VOC dye penetrate and hold its color as well as the oil base dyes?

  • @WeaverLeatherSupply

    @WeaverLeatherSupply

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hi Roger, I honestly don’t have a ton of experience with the Low VOC, in working with other water-based dyes yes it will penetrate pretty well however the color will tend to not be as consistent as the Pro Dye nor will it hold its color quite as well either.

  • @rogerd.hardin7156

    @rogerd.hardin7156

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@WeaverLeatherSupply Thank you so much.

  • @michaelm1850
    @michaelm18505 жыл бұрын

    Are the fumes/smell of the pro dye dangerous?

  • @WeaverLeatherSupply

    @WeaverLeatherSupply

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hi Michael, I can’t honestly tell you if they’re dangerous (oil based dyestuff with an ethyl or denatured alcohol (?) carrier), but, it is necessary to have good ventilation with the Pro Dye. On summer days I’ll dye outside and let dry outside. In the winter I have a good sized box fan in a window right behind my dyeing table. I’ll dye, and, let the pieces dry on the table so the fumes are carried outside.

  • @trifannylisasagita7109
    @trifannylisasagita71095 жыл бұрын

    Wich one is better for pebble leather? Pro dye or leather dye?

  • @WeaverLeatherSupply

    @WeaverLeatherSupply

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hi there, I prefer Pro Dye because it gives the most even coverage in my opinion. Hope that helps!

  • @rebeccakosierowski9537
    @rebeccakosierowski95372 жыл бұрын

    I'm looking into starting to make "barefoot" shoes (all leather, pliable for sensory input-moccasins), and I prefer to avoid the chemicals associated with chrome tan (and often with the dyes too). I've found some oiled veg-tan vacchetta that seems it would be perfect and am starting to look into coloring them myself. Oil dyes would work on oiled leather, right?

  • @WeaverLeatherSupply

    @WeaverLeatherSupply

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes, they should work. You'll just want to make sure there isn't a glaze or finish on the leather before you dye it. If there is a glaze, you can remove it with deglazer.

  • @leftyk1968
    @leftyk19684 жыл бұрын

    Heres a question for you. How to die a corrective leather show. It was originally burgandy i wiped it off with acetone ( big mistake) and all the die came off. It now looks like a pink/redish color. So how can i die it back to burgandy again.

  • @WeaverLeatherSupply

    @WeaverLeatherSupply

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hi there, I would try mixing some dyes to get the color you want. You could mix red and brown until you get the color you want.

  • @leftyk1968

    @leftyk1968

    4 жыл бұрын

    The mixing of the die isn't the problem it's the die doesn't adhere to to the corrective leather.curious to know if your company has a a die that stick to that type of corrective leather

  • @WeaverLeatherSupply

    @WeaverLeatherSupply

    4 жыл бұрын

    I'm not sure what you mean by corrective leather. If the leather is chrome tanned then unfortunately we do not have a dye for that. If it's veg tanned leather then the dye should sink in if you've used a deglazer to remove any top coat.

  • @leftyk1968

    @leftyk1968

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@WeaverLeatherSupply certainly isnt veg tan, its a shoe johnston and murphy and they sanded the leather and coated with a hard possibly plastic or very smooth paint that die doesnt adhere to

  • @SK-wh1sl
    @SK-wh1sl4 жыл бұрын

    Do you only use water before dyeing with water based dyes or do you do it with oil based as well?

  • @WeaverLeatherSupply

    @WeaverLeatherSupply

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hi SK, I'm not totally sure about your question but I think I see what you’re asking. I don’t moisten the leather before dyeing, but, most of the old school folks will. Some of the top coats even mention using a moist sponge to apply. I don’t since I worry about anything disrupting the consistency of the dye, but, give it a try and see what you think!

  • @SK-wh1sl

    @SK-wh1sl

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@WeaverLeatherSupply Hi, Ok thank you for the reply.

  • @simonprokopec9105
    @simonprokopec91055 жыл бұрын

    Hello, I'd like to ask what kind of dye / paint would you recommend for white leather products ? Can an oil based colour create clean white leather or should I look for an alcohol / water based one ? Many thanks from Czech Republic :)

  • @WeaverLeatherSupply

    @WeaverLeatherSupply

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hello to our friend in the Czech Republic! A good, solid brighter white, post tannery, is almost impossible to reach. In my opinion, the only way to get a good white is by buying a hide pre-dyed white and then laying that over a liner to build some weight if it’s for a belt or related project. Fiebing’s has a White Acrylic Dye but it’s more of an acrylic and less of a dye and doesn’t wick like the solvent based dyes will. It’s a pretty good white but not a bright white, and, durability is good unless it’s a product that sees regular or constant use. I’m sorry, I wish I had a better answer for you.

  • @backwoodsbrewer
    @backwoodsbrewer5 жыл бұрын

    Why do some Fiebing's labels say "Professional Oil Dye" and others say "Pro Dye"? Did they simply change their label layout, or is there a difference?

  • @WeaverLeatherSupply

    @WeaverLeatherSupply

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hello, Great question! They changed the name and redid the labels from Fiebing's Professional Oil Dye to Fiebing's Pro Dye a few years ago so it's the exact same thing just an older bottle if it still says professional oil dye.

  • @luc1ferblack
    @luc1ferblack4 жыл бұрын

    i want to make bowler hats how much dye would i need to dip dye a brim? i just need a estimate. how do you lay them to dry?

  • @WeaverLeatherSupply

    @WeaverLeatherSupply

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hi Jason, Dip dyeing does take more dye than daubing, but, it takes more quantity to submerge it. It sounds like you’re going to do some production here so I would say go with a quart. That will give you ample dye to dip dye and you’ll be able to figure out your yield well. If the brim is flat then lay it out on something like our shipping paper. That will absorb excess dye and will give it an even dye across the skive, or, if there’s a bit of a bow then use some wood or something similar to lay under the center so it bows correctly (put the wood under the paper and that will help the bow and keep the dye consistent). See if this helps?

  • @davevaness4172
    @davevaness41725 жыл бұрын

    How do you dilute Oil dye?

  • @WeaverLeatherSupply

    @WeaverLeatherSupply

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hi Dave, We would recommend Fiebing's Leather Dye Reducer: www.weaverleathersupply.com/catalog/item-detail/50-2049/fiebings-leather-dye-reducer/pr_27341/cp_/shop-now/leather-care/fiebings/dye

  • @talexander7217
    @talexander72176 жыл бұрын

    Are there any specific applications to use alcohol dye over oil dye? ...and what about a water based dye?

  • @WeaverLeatherSupply

    @WeaverLeatherSupply

    6 жыл бұрын

    Tony, thanks for asking. The only project I can think of that would require the alcohol over the pro is anything that would need a good stiff feel, like a holster or sheath. In this situation it would work nicely! On the other hand, the water based has never been one of my favorites. It is really bad about just sitting on the surface, and because of the surface tension of the water base, it doesn’t won’t wick in like the alcohol or Pro Dye.

  • @talexander7217

    @talexander7217

    6 жыл бұрын

    Weaver Leather Craft Supply thanks for the reply. I've had the same experience with water based. I think the natural oils in the leather prevent even penetration.

  • @rubencaro
    @rubencaro4 жыл бұрын

    I wanna dye the soles on my new Allen Edmonds. Any advice?

  • @WeaverLeatherSupply

    @WeaverLeatherSupply

    4 жыл бұрын

    I'm sorry, I really don't have a good answer for you on that. If there is a sealer or top coat on the soles you would need to strip that off first before you can dye them. One thing to keep in mind is the leather will naturally darken over time with wear and use.

  • @jackeddemon

    @jackeddemon

    4 жыл бұрын

    Riven, I recommend looking at the Saphir dyes. Febings is more for leather crafting.

  • @markolson7877
    @markolson78774 жыл бұрын

    I would like to dye a 24" x 24" piece, white...it will get LOTS of "traffic" ~ in an ottoman application...Any tips, pointers or recommendations ??

  • @WeaverLeatherSupply

    @WeaverLeatherSupply

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hi Mark, I am sorry to say that my best advice is to buy a piece of white Chrome-tan since it’s dyed and top coated at the tannery and won’t rub-off. Dyeing white (if you can find a good white dye) is difficult at best and the consistency on a larger panel like a 24 x 24 is tough to get. If you do have the dye and leather just make multiple passes until you get some good saturation and use a good top coat and it should look great. If you give it a shot let me know how it goes!

  • @markolson7877

    @markolson7877

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@WeaverLeatherSupply Thank you so much for your reply...It would be used as part of an "art piece" [of] furniture, so I believe my LOTS of traffic claim may be overstated... Nonetheless, since it is an art piece and my art is primarily recycle, re-use, up-cycle, I've decide to shop the local second-hand stores with the hopes of finding white leather sofa or chair and going that route.When finished, I will send a link to view the piece... Thanks again!!!!

  • @santiago_n3651
    @santiago_n36515 жыл бұрын

    Shopping for dyes on Amazon. Pro dye says (in product description): "Alcohol-based dye penetrates leather for optimum coverage". Shouldn't this be oil based? I'm very confused

  • @WeaverLeatherSupply

    @WeaverLeatherSupply

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hi Santiago_n, The dye itself is alcohol based but the dye color is oil based. We have a video that goes into detail about this, you can check it out here: kzread.info?o=U&video_id=zokhe6oxhjc

  • @debmorey1168
    @debmorey11685 жыл бұрын

    I want to dye a Red leather jacket and chaps to Black I got it from someone special and it is beautiful but I want to do it Black. Please help me with the things I would need and will it WORK

  • @WeaverLeatherSupply

    @WeaverLeatherSupply

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hi Deb, This is one that I can’t really say will work. You can deglaze (removes the top coat), re-dye and then add a new top coat. This is a great trick to renew older products but, with a jacket in particular and for the chaps as well, this would be difficult and I am just not sure of the overall outcome. It can be done, and nicely but, I’m just not confident that it would be a good option. I’m sorry, I wish I had a better answer for you.

  • @Boldnbeautiful86
    @Boldnbeautiful865 жыл бұрын

    I want to re-dye a pink leather bag to a rich dark mahogany brown, which dye would you recommend?

  • @WeaverLeatherSupply

    @WeaverLeatherSupply

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hello, That’s a tough one since the purse is pink and some of that color will stay once deglazed, but, that may be a plus here. Another issue is that you probably don’t have a piece you can experiment with. This is just guesswork here. The Mahogany (Pro Dye) may work but I may suggest going with a Walnut or a Dark Brown and not the Mahogany since the pink may bring in some color. I might say a better route would be to mix a Walnut and Mahogany (2 or 3 parts Walnut and 1 part Mahog.) A 1:1 mix is one of my favorite colors and I use it regularly (it’s not too much Mahog. but just enough to get some color in there). Since the pink may play a part I can’t say for sure here since I haven’t tried this, but, I would love to hear what you decide and if it gets you the outcome you’re looking for! Just make sure you use a deglazer first to remove any top coat so the leather will accept the dye.

  • @Boldnbeautiful86

    @Boldnbeautiful86

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@WeaverLeatherSupply Thank you for responding! after watching your video, I ordered the dark brown pro dye with the intent to use the mahogany antique finish over it to give the brown a red hugh. I guess now I will order the walnut color that you mention and mix it to see what I come up with. I do have the deglaze and the finisher as well. I will let you know how it comes out.

  • @WeaverLeatherSupply

    @WeaverLeatherSupply

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Boldnbeautiful86 That sounds like a good plan! Can't wait to hear how it goes!

  • @Boldnbeautiful86

    @Boldnbeautiful86

    5 жыл бұрын

    it came out excellent! I am so happy with the results! @@WeaverLeatherSupply

  • @Ammo08
    @Ammo086 жыл бұрын

    I would like to dye a tan leather rifle sling to an olive drab or flat dark earth..is this possible?

  • @WeaverLeatherSupply

    @WeaverLeatherSupply

    6 жыл бұрын

    Hello, It can absolutely be done. That’s the best part about dying your own leather, you can make custom colors to whatever you desire. I would mix a green and probably dark brown Feibings Pro Dye until you get the exact shade you want. www.weaverleathersupply.com/catalog/item-detail/55888/001/123

  • @Ammo08

    @Ammo08

    6 жыл бұрын

    thank you...

  • @2eme_voltigeur652
    @2eme_voltigeur6526 жыл бұрын

    Just to take away some confusion on my side, does Oil dye also contain alcohol? How to tell them apart from the alcohol dyes as mentioned in the video? I am making belts for a pair of saddlebags to a WW1 saddle and want to get it done correctly ;).

  • @WeaverLeatherSupply

    @WeaverLeatherSupply

    6 жыл бұрын

    Hello, You are correct, both of these dyes are alcohol carriers. Fiebing's Pro Dye is the oil dye we recommend and use in our videos where the dye colorant is made of oils. The non-oil dye is just called Fiebing's Leather Dye and uses a powder based colorant. Besides Fiebing's brand dyes you will probably want to check with the specific brand to see whether it is an oil dye. Hope this helps!

  • @2eme_voltigeur652

    @2eme_voltigeur652

    6 жыл бұрын

    Weaver Leathercraft Ok, thank you for the clarification, will pay attention to the substance of the dyes. Fiebling is available in the Netherlands where I live. Can you give me any indication on how much leather surface you can paint with a bottle of 118 ml? The thickness of leather that I am looking for is 3-4 mm.

  • @WeaverLeatherSupply

    @WeaverLeatherSupply

    6 жыл бұрын

    Unfortunately, there isn't really a way to gauge how much leather a bottle of dye will cover. It also depends on whether or not you will be dip dyeing or brushing the dye on.

  • @2eme_voltigeur652

    @2eme_voltigeur652

    6 жыл бұрын

    Weaver Leathercraft ok, I will have to find out by doing then ;). Thank you for the reply!

  • @Skund79
    @Skund793 жыл бұрын

    Alcohol dye also tends to build up a shimmering ugly residue on the top. To combat it, you need to rub it off with cloth towel, otherwise it will settle and can't be removed. In a worst case scenario you need to repeat this process several time on the piece

  • @KowboyUSA
    @KowboyUSA6 жыл бұрын

    Suddenly I know more about dying leather.

  • @-CrampedStyle-
    @-CrampedStyle-5 жыл бұрын

    If I dip dye leather with steel grommets, will the dye rub off afterwards, or should I tape over them before dipping?

  • @WeaverLeatherSupply

    @WeaverLeatherSupply

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hello, Great question. Ideally, you would want to dip dye before adding the grommets but the dye should rub right off. An easy way to test it would be to put a grommet in the dye and see what happens.

  • @friscokid66
    @friscokid663 жыл бұрын

    Bummer the oil dyes are nit available in California

  • @silverwiskers7371
    @silverwiskers73715 жыл бұрын

    I'm having hell dying and I've tried almost all of them, the saddle tans are turning orange and I've tried water based with crappie results,

  • @WeaverLeatherSupply

    @WeaverLeatherSupply

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hi Gene, We're sorry to hear that. If you haven't tried it yet, you may want to use a deglazer on your natural leather before dying to ensure there is no "glaze" or wax on the surface of the hide. As far as dye goes, we would recommend Fiebing's Pro Dye for the most even coverage. If this does not help then it may just be the leather you are using and it might be worth a shot to try something different. Unfortunately, if the hide is not tanned with quality materials it does have an effect on how the dye will turn out. Hope this helps!

  • @silverwiskers7371

    @silverwiskers7371

    5 жыл бұрын

    Weaver Leathercraft, thanks brother, ill definitely try that on next project, I'm buying from ya'll instead of tandy on my next project

  • @oldschooljack3479
    @oldschooljack34794 жыл бұрын

    Who could be mad at Chuck?

  • @graphguy
    @graphguy5 жыл бұрын

    I haven't found any positives to use alcohol dyes.... surely there must be some? no?

  • @WeaverLeatherSupply

    @WeaverLeatherSupply

    5 жыл бұрын

    If you find one let me know, I just haven't had any luck with it!

  • @LaZerMouse
    @LaZerMouse8 ай бұрын

    I bought two leather dyes 😭 Now what am I going to do with that? 😢

  • @hortenciajimenez6125
    @hortenciajimenez61254 жыл бұрын

    7

  • @jaywholoveseveryone1721
    @jaywholoveseveryone17214 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! This was damn good information and...uhhh...let me have that suit of leather armor behind you. I can fit it - I swear!♥ .•:*¨¨*:•. ♥

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