The Lead Guitar Sounds of Siamese Dream (The Smashing Pumpkins)

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These are the pedals I used in my latest covers of Siamese Dream (by the Smashing Pumpkins) to emulate Billy Corgan's lead guitar sounds. This time we make it work with just pedals for playing live.
Notice how there's no Mutron Bipase?
Contents:
0:00 - Intro Jam
0:50 - Intro
1:05 - Today's Pedals
4:27 - Building the Pedalboard
6:01 - Building the Lead
8:19 - Blast Off
8:54 - Shhhhh
9:29 - Soma
10:05 - Bummer
10:38 - Bread Spread
11:12 - Ebow
12:11 - Ending
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Video on the Siamese Dream rhythm guitar sound and using post production - • How to Sound Like Siam...
Black Guitar:
2019 Fender American Professional Stratocaster w/ R/S/B Lace Sensors
Tuning - E Standard
Butterscotch Guitar:
2018 Fender American Professional FSR Stratocaster
Tuning - E Standard
Amp:
Marshall SC20C JCM800 in a Mojotone Bluesbreaker cabinet
www.mojotone.com/cabinets/vin...
Pedals:
Made by Mike '78 IC Muff - www.madebymike.co.uk/icmuff.shtml
Made by Mike DistII - www.madebymike.co.uk/dist2.shtml
EHX Microsynth - www.ehx.com/products/micro-sy...
Jordan Buzz Tone - www.mahoneyguitargear.com/buzz...
MXR Phase 100 - www.jimdunlop.com/mxr-phase-100/
Strymon Deco - www.strymon.net/product/deco/
Eventide H9 Max - www.eventideaudio.com/product...
JHS 3 Series Comressor - www.jhspedals.info/3-series-c...
Bass:
Squire Affinity J Bass direct
Gear for Recording:
Universal Audio OX
Steinberg UR-RT2 Interface
Logic Pro
Amplitube Custom Shop

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  • @ellescer
    @ellescer Жыл бұрын

    you even got the hair down

  • @Riffmaster227

    @Riffmaster227

    18 күн бұрын

    😂😂😂

  • @jillesguzman3333
    @jillesguzman33332 жыл бұрын

    Makes you realize how much production Butch and Billy put into the recording of the album. Never in a thousand lives would I contemplate about using 6+ pedals for a lead sound. Makes me realize how much of a sonic architect Billy is. I suppose the less is more approach simply didn't cut it back then :) Now I understand why he was using a looper switcher on the Siamese Dream tour. You can see it in many videos. Such a crazy record. Soundwise totally unique. Almost a bit alien, really muddy sometimes - but it worked 100%. Funny that no band (at least to my knowledge) ever tried to use a similar sound configuration for their records. You wouldn't dare to get too close to Siamese Dream because it's so all encompassing and recognizable. The guys at EHX in New York probably keep a Billy Corgan altar with candles and a Big Muff in the middle :)

  • @ectoplasma5

    @ectoplasma5

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes they have even made a new orange pumpkin pi big muff.

  • @sugarnap245

    @sugarnap245

    Жыл бұрын

    right next to his David gilmour alter

  • @Bossanovawitcha

    @Bossanovawitcha

    8 ай бұрын

    Nevermind truly was a Nirvana Pumpkins album. Then, Siamese Dream was a Pumpkins Nirvana album.

  • @CorbCorbin

    @CorbCorbin

    8 ай бұрын

    @@Bossanovawitcha Those are two pretty distinctly different albums.

  • @Bossanovawitcha

    @Bossanovawitcha

    8 ай бұрын

    @@CorbCorbin butch sewed them all together

  • @andresav1073
    @andresav107311 ай бұрын

    SIAMESE DREAM is a perfect album

  • @Tantacrul
    @Tantacrul8 ай бұрын

    This is quite unexpected. I would never have arrived at this organisation of pedals to achieve this sound (and I would have failed massively had I tried). Brilliant and instructive. Thanks!

  • @EddieClark

    @EddieClark

    8 ай бұрын

    Thanks for watching! Glad you found it useful! It was a huge “aha” moment when I first heard it all together.

  • @blacknapalm2131
    @blacknapalm2131 Жыл бұрын

    *Billy is the most under-rated axe man of all time* Amazing video by the way

  • @crowdsurfer77

    @crowdsurfer77

    Жыл бұрын

    Underrated? Who tf says, he´s bad???

  • @rshone99

    @rshone99

    Жыл бұрын

    @@crowdsurfer77 Steve Lukather :o

  • @FACTBOT_5000

    @FACTBOT_5000

    Жыл бұрын

    Don't forget about Rocky George when you talk about under rated guitarists.

  • @chrisknepper5153

    @chrisknepper5153

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah. He can play the guitar like crazy! But he is kind of a D-bag. That’s why he gets less respect. Just the truth.

  • @blacknapalm2131

    @blacknapalm2131

    Жыл бұрын

    Douche-Baggery and axe skills seem to be linked in some way haha@@chrisknepper5153

  • @anthonysclafani3963
    @anthonysclafani39632 жыл бұрын

    This channel deserves way more subscribers

  • @EddieClark

    @EddieClark

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Anthony. Greatly appreciated!

  • @aefenleoht
    @aefenleoht2 жыл бұрын

    Thru the eyes of ruby!

  • @eyelidjid
    @eyelidjid2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much for doing this video! I was working on a cover of Hummer and struggling to get that Siamese Dream tone but this video on the lead tone and the other one on the general Siamese Dream sound were so helpful - your covers are spot on too!

  • @Farold_Haltermeyer
    @Farold_Haltermeyer Жыл бұрын

    Well this was slightly embaressing...you have literally just built my pedalboard. Only differences are a Diamond Comp Jr, a Mid-Fi Peace Gun in place of the Jordan fuzz and a Bad Stone phaser. You made me realise how much I owe to Billy's tones!! Great demo, thanks so much

  • @15npaz
    @15npaz2 жыл бұрын

    Crazy under appreciated guitar channel, subbed

  • @bobbybrown1787
    @bobbybrown17872 жыл бұрын

    Man I really don’t know how you don’t have a huge following this is so useful and in depth. Thank hou

  • @EddieClark

    @EddieClark

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! Glad you found it useful

  • @geoffcarlin4161

    @geoffcarlin4161

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@EddieClark Hi Eddie, may I ask if you've tried using the setup in this video in a band/live context and, if you have, did it yield good results or did you find that you were a bit lost in the mix?

  • @DanielPestanaTranslations
    @DanielPestanaTranslations2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for this Eddie. Much more complex than I thought. That sustain on the leads always blows me away.

  • @tomadjarm3302
    @tomadjarm330210 ай бұрын

    Very informative video! I’ve been listening to Siamese Dream since it was still fairly new, and I learned some things here. Thank you!

  • @vandal_dk
    @vandal_dk8 ай бұрын

    This was great! Informative and awesome playing. I’ve added some pedals to the list.

  • @jsantos1104
    @jsantos11042 жыл бұрын

    For your Melancholy cover, try “Here is no why” and “Bodies”. Thanks! Also, awesome tip on the Jordan Buzz Tone.

  • @idfkisaac

    @idfkisaac

    2 жыл бұрын

    completely agree! these were literally the same 2 songs i was going to recommend. Love also has an interesting tone too, id like to see that!!

  • @EddieClark

    @EddieClark

    2 жыл бұрын

    I love the Buzz Tone. It's part of my main board build as well (not just my Siamese Dream build). "Here is no Why" is one I need to finish up. I recorded the solo for a short earlier this year. kzread.info/dash/bejne/qY6YlMauotLapsY.html

  • @cuteasxtreme

    @cuteasxtreme

    2 жыл бұрын

    Perfect song picks

  • @mariamujica6267

    @mariamujica6267

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@idfkisaacthe tone of love is an easy to get you need a super fuzz and a really wild flanger

  • @franciscosomarriba3129
    @franciscosomarriba31292 жыл бұрын

    Ruby! Excellent vid and analysis on his tone

  • @joshuacotto
    @joshuacotto Жыл бұрын

    Highkey most informative video ever because of the examples and demonstration. You really had consistent demonstration of how applicable these pedals would be per situation. That’s what Billy considers with his gear

  • @knivesout33
    @knivesout33 Жыл бұрын

    Finally a decent video on their sound! Nailed it!

  • @Fadebackstudios
    @Fadebackstudios2 жыл бұрын

    This video is amazing, great job on researching this

  • @douglasvaughn9349
    @douglasvaughn93492 жыл бұрын

    Great video . Informative! Thank you😎

  • @EWilliams81
    @EWilliams81 Жыл бұрын

    I love it. Man, and I thought I was the ultimate Pumpkin fan. This is really helpful. Thanks for what I'm sure was a hell of a lot of work. I'm going to try to recreate this. I've got the right pedals, just not the specific make and models you are using. We'll see if I can get close. Thanks again. Great insight to a much beloved sound and album.

  • @Zwikster
    @Zwikster Жыл бұрын

    Holy shit, this is fukin amazing! You are nailing these lead tones! I love how in Billy's solos, the sustained 1 note holds and then the fuzz/synth/phase chokes it out in a fizzle of signal exhaustion...

  • @scottmabry6968
    @scottmabry69682 жыл бұрын

    Wow amazing sounds! Nailed it

  • @superdaveo454
    @superdaveo4549 ай бұрын

    Dude, you're amazing! I'm in some SP fan groups. I'll be sharing your channel in both groups. Highly informative!

  • @Tim8tei
    @Tim8tei2 жыл бұрын

    Another amazing video. I love how you showed each pedal and explained them all, turning them on one by one. After all these years I never knew a compressor had this effect.

  • @EddieClark

    @EddieClark

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! I'm glad that video format worked. Compressors can be so useful in any scenario where you need long sustain.

  • @dougwirtanen200
    @dougwirtanen200 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for this. You’re giving me Alton Brown vibes. Easy to pay attention too. Do more vids like this!

  • @garethwonham
    @garethwonham6 ай бұрын

    Staggered this ain’t a bigger channel or more views at the minimum. Amazing band and a true masterpiece of the 90s. Really does make you miss the 90s

  • @joshuacotto
    @joshuacotto9 ай бұрын

    Yeah I think I’ve replicated your sounds with a few changes to the choice of pedals. HUGE SOUND. Thank you so much and I’ve tested this live, it holds up really greatly

  • @jerryboy3301
    @jerryboy3301 Жыл бұрын

    Just subbed! Thank you. Amazing tones!

  • @pilotdrift05
    @pilotdrift05 Жыл бұрын

    Dude! That’s some bad ass playing and tones

  • @EddieClark

    @EddieClark

    Жыл бұрын

    Appreciated mate!

  • @kastle4774
    @kastle47742 жыл бұрын

    i’m so lucky to have found this video, i was just looking for one

  • @nkozi
    @nkozi2 жыл бұрын

    Nice work, especially on the flange - Gonna make a fun lead sound with these tricks on my HX Effects

  • @dallanby
    @dallanby2 жыл бұрын

    Jeez, I was getting caught up with simply how well done your video is and then... and then 7:47. Glad I came across your channel after I've been thinking about SP's tones a lot lately. Awesome quality.

  • @EddieClark

    @EddieClark

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much and thanks for watching! Hope it helped 👍

  • @brahh5283
    @brahh5283 Жыл бұрын

    thankg god someone actually gave ALL THE PEDALS… ive been looking everywhere and I finally found it THANK YOU!!

  • @EddieClark

    @EddieClark

    Жыл бұрын

    No problem 👍

  • @simonsmith2642
    @simonsmith2642 Жыл бұрын

    What a crazy creative and unusual approach, his signal chain is mind boggling until, it comes together. Then, there it is! I dont want to sound like someone else but there are things I love and would like to barrow from it. I remember seeing them play the whole album live Lalapalooza 1993 I think it was. All I can say is, I remember it being, dynamic, and intense, the vibes and feel, it was absolutely unreal. Some of his best work IMO. Thanks for this.

  • @EddieClark

    @EddieClark

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching! Glad to do this. 💪

  • @masterofreality230
    @masterofreality2307 ай бұрын

    Good stuff man, love this albums guitar sound. The Deco is the best pedal ever made!

  • @EddieClark

    @EddieClark

    7 ай бұрын

    Thank you! The Deco has been a mainstay on my board since the day I bought it and I don’t see it going anywhere any time soon 👍

  • @obdmpod
    @obdmpod Жыл бұрын

    wow, you are really thorough. Just the kind of video I was looking for. If you did this type of thing for every(eh, most) 90s bands, I'm sure your channel would blow up. Good job.

  • @EddieClark

    @EddieClark

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @JamesMeyers
    @JamesMeyers2 жыл бұрын

    Best pumpkins Siamese Dream tones I’ve ever heard outside of Billy and Company. Great job bro!! Liked and subbed

  • @EddieClark

    @EddieClark

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! Greatly appreciated.

  • @leogovan5076
    @leogovan50762 жыл бұрын

    Loving that micro synth sound - loved it so much I’ve just ordered one!

  • @leob4403

    @leob4403

    10 ай бұрын

    How much you paid?

  • @leogovan5076

    @leogovan5076

    10 ай бұрын

    @@leob4403 about £180 in the UK at the time. Prices here have really gone up since then

  • @buckstv

    @buckstv

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@leogovan5076 mine just arrived today :) do you know what order of the pedal chain is?

  • @S1ipperyJim
    @S1ipperyJim7 ай бұрын

    Is the buzz tone meant to simulate the Bloody Finger pedal used by BC?

  • @EddieClark

    @EddieClark

    7 ай бұрын

    No. The Buzz Tone is a close circuit to the fuzz that was pulled out of the MSA lap steel guitar. The bloody finger didn’t come around until well after Siamese Dream

  • @S1ipperyJim

    @S1ipperyJim

    7 ай бұрын

    Thanks! Great video ​@@EddieClark

  • @alexmalch
    @alexmalch2 жыл бұрын

    would be very cool to see you do the Gish guitar tone

  • @chriskareska4017

    @chriskareska4017

    Жыл бұрын

    ADA MP-1!

  • @BradyA1124
    @BradyA1124 Жыл бұрын

    Awesome, you actually taught me something, I like you

  • @benjihollister
    @benjihollister2 жыл бұрын

    fantastic job man

  • @EddieClark

    @EddieClark

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @michaelrudd6185
    @michaelrudd618511 ай бұрын

    These are amazing. I’ve been trying to get the Hummer and Cherub Rock solo sound for years, never getting all that close. Totally thought it was because I had no MuTron haha. The Deco is a great addition. Thank you so much for going to the trouble. Subscribed immediately. Think you’ll do a Mellon Collie rhythm / lead tone segment?

  • @9thstreetbrandt
    @9thstreetbrandt10 ай бұрын

    Damn that intro is fire!

  • @stevenflow
    @stevenflow Жыл бұрын

    Awesome video dude! You've nailed those tones👏👏👏 Please can you do a video on Starla. Would be really interesting to explore all those reverse efects in the intro and that mad filtered solo.

  • @EddieClark

    @EddieClark

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks! Appreciated! Starla has been requested a few times now so I guess I really should!

  • @TommyScott-xs4xs
    @TommyScott-xs4xs2 күн бұрын

    Through the eyes of Ruby please! You are amazing Man

  • @alexmalch
    @alexmalch2 жыл бұрын

    that’s amazing

  • @chuckcitocarlitos4282
    @chuckcitocarlitos42822 жыл бұрын

    Hey Eddie, i came across your channel watching cover and I have to say you are doing Gods work, I really appreciate the effort you took to learn how all the little pieces fit together and you are the only guy I've found that goes into depth on how these all fit together. I really want to learn more and wanted to see if I could contact you in anyway

  • @EddieClark

    @EddieClark

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! What parts are you wanting to learn more about?

  • @chuckcitocarlitos4282

    @chuckcitocarlitos4282

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@EddieClark How to produce similar tone or feeling in a DAW, or like how the vocals sound.

  • @ConsultingHumor
    @ConsultingHumor2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much for this

  • @TheKabutoKoji
    @TheKabutoKoji Жыл бұрын

    Excelente explicación!!!! 🌟🎸😐 Muchísimas gracias y felicidades por tu canal ♥️✨👍🏻 está bien chingón. 🍺👽🚬

  • @Bilsuburbians
    @Bilsuburbians11 ай бұрын

    Thanks eddie. You show us how to be, but in an affordable way. Thanks!!!

  • @qwerwerterytrtyutyuiyuiouiop
    @qwerwerterytrtyutyuiyuiouiop4 ай бұрын

    pretty awesome, very interesting

  • @WillCorg
    @WillCorg2 жыл бұрын

    I also just bought all of the vintage Mellon Collie rack gear, but the Strategy 500 is in the shop being repaired as we speak. When I get it back, my first cover is going to be Porcelina for sure! Ruby I think is the second best song on that album. I’m more interested in playing the B sides of that album.

  • @SuiGenerisMan
    @SuiGenerisMan Жыл бұрын

    I've been checking out videos on this topic for a decade, and this is the First youtube ever, that TRUILY gets the tone right and accurately enough to use the STRYMON DECO - which is CRITICAL. Instant credibility, subscribed.

  • @digio2008
    @digio20082 жыл бұрын

    Amazing video. I would love to see a MCIS gear video.

  • @stevensavage7870
    @stevensavage78709 ай бұрын

    Thank you for this

  • @EddieClark

    @EddieClark

    9 ай бұрын

    My pleasure!

  • @merrickkibler7455
    @merrickkibler74552 жыл бұрын

    Please do Mellon collie lead tone next! This is the best video about the Siamese tone that exists

  • @EddieClark

    @EddieClark

    2 жыл бұрын

    I will absolutely be covering MCIS as soon as I can collect all the necessary gear 👍

  • @chriskareska4017

    @chriskareska4017

    Жыл бұрын

    @@EddieClark Marshall JMP-1!

  • @EddieClark

    @EddieClark

    Жыл бұрын

    @@chriskareska4017 absolutely. It’s key

  • @youreallygotmenow4855
    @youreallygotmenow48552 жыл бұрын

    Killer playing, man! You definitely nailed all the little intricacies that make Billy's playing *so* expressive and exciting to listen to. Also, I love the in-depth research that went into making this, especially as a huge Pumpkins fan. Do you think I can approximate the tones you got with the Micro-Synth using a Pitch Fork? (the Micro-Synth is a little too expensive for me). Again, huge kudos for the amazing work you did!

  • @EddieClark

    @EddieClark

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! Greatly appreciated! The best cheaper alternative to the Microsynth I've found is the EQD Bit Commander. The nice thing about the Bit Commander is you don't need the compressor for the longer sustain. The Pitch Fork will get you 50% of the way there though. Hope that helps!

  • @geoffcarlin4161
    @geoffcarlin4161 Жыл бұрын

    First off, congratulations to Eddie for managing to nail these sounds - incredible work! You have gained a subscriber. Secondly, does anybody have any experience of trying to use this setup (or similar) in a live context? How was it? Does (or did) your guitar shine through in the mix or does it just get lost in a mush of scooped fuzz? I know BC didn't use the Muff for live applications. In fact, I believe he mainly used rack gear for a long time when performing.

  • @russhay422
    @russhay42211 ай бұрын

    This is a video I’ve waited 25+ years for. Just ordered a Buzz Tone. May get the Bloody Finger instead of the Dist 2. Also looking at the Deco. Would love to see a breakdown of some of their more modern clean wash tones such as Wound. Likely based around the same Selmer as Tonite, Tonite?

  • @leob4403

    @leob4403

    10 ай бұрын

    The other buzz tone demos I heard on youtube does not sound like this at all. Did you get this sound with it? The ehx satisfaction does not sound like it whatsoever

  • @werideatdusk
    @werideatdusk10 ай бұрын

    New sub, great work here.

  • @JonathanSumner1
    @JonathanSumner18 ай бұрын

    Amazing videos! I am into the these videos! Great job and I am going to try the same thing. Your ear and knowledge of the pedals is great. Have you thought about doing a series on the other great 90s bands? How to sound like ....... I bet it would be a hit! In the meantime what does the H9 do in the chain? (are you using delay, reverb, pitch?)

  • @grognakthog
    @grognakthog2 жыл бұрын

    dude your tone rocks, also for mellon collie i wanna hear An ode to no one and definitely JellyBelly

  • @EddieClark

    @EddieClark

    2 жыл бұрын

    Jellybelly has been speaking to me lately.

  • @michaelbreach5862
    @michaelbreach5862 Жыл бұрын

    Interesting- I have the micro synth and don’t use it much because the notes don’t sustain long. I’m definitely going to try it with a compressor now. Thank you for sharing this

  • @EddieClark

    @EddieClark

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad to! Thanks for watching 👍

  • @michaelfowler3187
    @michaelfowler31878 ай бұрын

    I find the dist 2 sound not only has a special way of hitting the front of the big mutt but it also on its own really captures for me the sound and low end subtle grit of the machine ii (2) album. Songs like vanity - that warm growling guitar- I get that from my Made by Mike dist ii. Also the clean to grit transition of a riff like Drown- very easy to find that balance on the dist ii. If you are a pumpkins fan but aren't necessarily looking to cover / tribute their material, the dist ii really made me feel like I was racing on Billy's track - without stepping on his style too much. Get a made by Mike Uk dream box, so much fun.

  • @jfrbcelloguitar
    @jfrbcelloguitar Жыл бұрын

    Excelente 👌 gracias

  • @thieveryguitars6206
    @thieveryguitars62062 жыл бұрын

    It’s amazing how close you’re getting to the lead sounds with the pedal board. I know they did a lot of post production tricks. Any chance of a tutorial on the Soma leads?

  • @EddieClark

    @EddieClark

    2 жыл бұрын

    TBH - I'm not sure I'm good enough to be giving lessons but I would be willing to try if there's the interest

  • @chuckcitocarlitos4282

    @chuckcitocarlitos4282

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, lessons of sort would be great!

  • @thieveryguitars6206

    @thieveryguitars6206

    2 жыл бұрын

    I’ve been playing for a long time myself and I’m a pretty decent guitar player but I feel you on that. Breaking it down is a whole other can of worms. That said, your arrangement was really cool and even a slightly slowed down, close in tutorial would be more than I’ve seen.

  • @freehey629
    @freehey6292 жыл бұрын

    Fn killer, man. I hope you can do another one for Pisces Iscariot tones.

  • @EddieClark

    @EddieClark

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! That's a good idea. I'd be interested in that.

  • @gvgvhk.jg.4579

    @gvgvhk.jg.4579

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@EddieClark yeah mate, especially solos in Plume - I've tried 10 different phasers to get that lovely 'swoosh' sound when the notes stop holding, but apparently I'm doing something wrong...

  • @AndyCorgan
    @AndyCorgan Жыл бұрын

    Amazing, in depth video Eddie, this is helping me a lot through my endless journey to nail the SP and specifically the SD sound. Thank you a lot! Just a few questions if you don't mind... First, is there a specific reason you're running your dist2 AFTER the fuzz(es)? I'm currently running a Boss SD-1 (waiting for my MBM Dist2) INTO the op-amp fuzz to give it a more byte in the solos, but haven't tried the other way around. Second... do you think the op-amp fuzz would cut in a live situation with this settings, i.e. tone stack on and tone knob at 1 o'clock? I've always had the impression that switching the tone stack off would result in a rounder and more organic sound.

  • @WillCorg
    @WillCorg2 жыл бұрын

    I have all of those pedals except they’re the original vintage pedals, I also have the earlier “Script” Phase 100. I even have a V4 and V5 big muff. The output on the V4 comes out much louder than the V5 for some reason, I actually love the V5 sound a little better. Of course I also had to get a JCM800 with KT88 tubes for that super clean tone to play them on.

  • @JohnSpo
    @JohnSpo2 ай бұрын

    I made a helix preset for the cherub rock solo and it's a lot of the same effects you're using. I use their "retro-reel" and that's pretty much what the strymon is doing here. I have the synth running parallel at one point in the chain with the mix down to keep it sort of subtle. I have their mutron bi-phase model on there as well. I can't remember the exact amp model I'm using, it's either a JCM 800 or JCM 2000, with the drive up and a good amount of mids, and a treble booster into a big muff model. I can't remember if I put any other modulation on it. I might have done a chorus or a very slow flange set very low. I think I also used a wah set on one frequency with mix down to about 40 or 45 just to get some extra pop on the mids.

  • @muaythai4lifelife
    @muaythai4lifelife Жыл бұрын

    Wow, i just discovered your channel. At this point I must ask you to examine the Plume solos :)

  • @EddieClark

    @EddieClark

    Жыл бұрын

    I'll look at it ASAP. Anything for another nak muay.

  • @muaythai4lifelife

    @muaythai4lifelife

    Жыл бұрын

    @@EddieClark ahaaha alrighty ;)

  • @MutantBurglar
    @MutantBurglar2 жыл бұрын

    This was awesome! Now I just have to figure out how to get a Mellon collie guitar tone…

  • @EddieClark

    @EddieClark

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! I've been messing around with a JPTR Effects Katastrophe to get some MCIS type sounds. Any of the Marshall in a box pedals with a clean boost will get you in the ballpark. The pickup type matters more for the MCIS sound compared to SD. A humbucker or red Lace Sensor in the bridge is pretty critical for the MCIS high gain tones.

  • @markmalonson7531
    @markmalonson75319 ай бұрын

    I am a Siamese zombie this s*** is cool 50 years later wow I love it.

  • @emoboi311
    @emoboi3117 ай бұрын

    Great video quality. What camera were you using?

  • @EddieClark

    @EddieClark

    7 ай бұрын

    Thank you! I use a Sony A6500 with a Sigma 24mm 1.4f. Voice audio is handled separately with an off screen condenser mic

  • @bsnyder921
    @bsnyder9212 жыл бұрын

    Also, the most illusive tone on that album to me is just that intro riff in Rocket. I definitely hear a subtle tape flange effect, especially in that last moment right before the drums kick in. But is it the MXR Dist II > Muff? Or was it just the Microsynth into a fuzz? I need to knowww!

  • @MarianneMovie
    @MarianneMovie2 жыл бұрын

    Awesome. About the phaser though, I'm not sure just any phaser would have the same effect. I've compared a vintage Bad Stone, Mutron Phasor II and MXR Phase 100, and the Phase 100 is definitely the one to go with on Siamese Dream. Especially Mayonaise.

  • @EddieClark

    @EddieClark

    2 жыл бұрын

    Keeping the rate and color of other phasers can get you in the range but ultimately I agree with you. The Phase 100 is THE phaser for SD. Thanks for watching!

  • @MarianneMovie

    @MarianneMovie

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@EddieClark Thanks for making the videos. Very inspiring.

  • @thewoodwork_ca
    @thewoodwork_ca2 жыл бұрын

    Love the video, very clearly done. I went out and bought the pedals I didn't have. Do you use the Buzz tone with the switch flipped up towards you or toward the ground? The volume jumps way up on one of them. With the settings I see in the video for everything I sometimes have issues getting whale scream sounds when the strings aren't silenced between notes.

  • @EddieClark

    @EddieClark

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! It's a very noisy lead chain at times. Especially when the Microsynth is not on (it gates your signal). I have the switch pointing down most of the the time with Buzz Tone. Sometimes the what scream sound just doesn't want to happen. I get that as well periodically.

  • @namtsur
    @namtsur Жыл бұрын

    Where would the wah go in the chain? Love the video man 🤘🏼🤘🏼

  • @EddieClark

    @EddieClark

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks! The wha would go at the very start before all other pedals. 👍

  • @connorbeck8869
    @connorbeck88692 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for going so in depth on your videos. The buzz tone seems to be the missing ingredient. I was wondering if you have any recommendations for an alternative to the Dist2? Thanks again, would love to hear XYU from MCIS.

  • @EddieClark

    @EddieClark

    2 жыл бұрын

    No worries and thanks for watching!The Dist2 is the best way really. The MXR Distortion + works ok in a pinch.

  • @Trials-and-Tribulations
    @Trials-and-Tribulations6 ай бұрын

    Great tips to either add or tweak. Do you have a Bury Me cover. Bury me in gear guitar sounds, slight pun 😅

  • @skiing4697
    @skiing469711 ай бұрын

    Best album ever

  • @zwanphony
    @zwanphony Жыл бұрын

    Hi, I have been playing a lot of Machina lately, one of my fave albums and I can't seem to find the website for the smashing pumpkins sound/gear archive anymore. Any links or info you have regarding Machina's shimmering chorus sounds and such? Btw, imploding voice is such a fun song to play :)

  • @spindrift2009
    @spindrift20092 жыл бұрын

    I’m the guy who posted a comment on your Reddit video. About getting closer to the cherub rock solo tone. My buddy and I are starting a little smashing pumpkins jam band in the bay area. Let me know if you end up moving to the bay area because then you’ll be one of the 2 guitars in the band. Hahh. (As you know, to really do SP justice, you need 2 guitars!). 🤘. Actually, when we play live, I’ll just fly you down as a guest guitarist to join us. Ha ha Ha

  • @EddieClark

    @EddieClark

    2 жыл бұрын

    Pick the right day and I'd probably be into that 🤣

  • @spindrift2009

    @spindrift2009

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@EddieClark btw I sent you a chat on your Reddit account, not sure if you’ll get a notification. Anyway, lmk if your down for connecting. I’m obsessed now with getting this full setup so I’ll be striving for the right settings. (So many dials…Hahh)

  • @zerosadness
    @zerosadness11 ай бұрын

    Hi fantastic video! Do you have an idea about the compressor pedal he used during Siamese Dream? Sometimes I can read DOD FX84 Milk Box, but I think it has been released after

  • @behavioralsink7747
    @behavioralsink7747 Жыл бұрын

    Where in the chain is your deco? Killer video, subscribed!

  • @EddieClark

    @EddieClark

    Жыл бұрын

    I had it at the absolute end of the chain in this video but on my actual board, it's before the Eventide. I don't find it makes a huge difference on a mono board like in this video. However in stereo operation, I prefer the Eventide last because it doesn't mix down the stereo signal coming in to mono before applying it's own stereo effect (as the Deco does). If you listen to the audio in my "Soma Sound" video, that was recorded with the Eventide last.

  • @seantwine8572
    @seantwine8572 Жыл бұрын

    great video ! u even have the same haircut as billy lol

  • @nojyeloot
    @nojyeloot7 ай бұрын

    YEEEESSSS!!

  • @teacher-sean
    @teacher-sean9 ай бұрын

    Man, I can't even tell you how many times I've watched this video now. This is the ultimate in guitar tones and your explanations are fantastic. I wish I had gotten the opportunity to meet you when you were in Chiang Mai, but no worries. I'm thankful for this amazing gift of knowledge that you have shared. I have alternative versions of everything you have now except for the Micro Synth, Deco and Eventide. I was just wondering if you might care to share your settings for the Buzz Tone and Dist +. I can't quite see. No worries if you don't want to go that far. I'm sure I can experiment and figure out my own version. Hey.. by the way.. are you going to continue this channel? You are one of my favorite dudes to follow for guitar stuff and it looks like you don't post so much anymore. Why is that?? Hope all is well and I hope you get back to making videos!

  • @EddieClark

    @EddieClark

    9 ай бұрын

    I’m still planning on continue the channel but a love of travel has dominated my time. Let’s grab coffee in a month. I’ll be back in Chiang Mai mid Oct and I’ll be there for 3 months.

  • @teacher-sean

    @teacher-sean

    9 ай бұрын

    @@EddieClark Dude!! Deal! I would love to chat with you about music and your travels! And yeah, that's a fair enough reason to take a break haha :)

  • @EddieClark

    @EddieClark

    9 ай бұрын

    Do you have a platform I can DM you on when the date gets closer?

  • @teacher-sean

    @teacher-sean

    9 ай бұрын

    @@EddieClark - I shared my contact info but it seems to have disappeared. Was that a glitch on my end or did you delete it for privacy reasons? Just wanted to confirm, just in case it was an error with my phone.

  • @EddieClark

    @EddieClark

    9 ай бұрын

    It’s a privacy thing. Message me on IG. I think we may have chatted there last year.

  • @dattoboy1
    @dattoboy1 Жыл бұрын

    You nailed the tones Eddie. Subscribed! How did you discover the Jordan boss tone as one of the ingredients to the corgan sound? All I ever read about since forever are IC big muffs, and occasionally a fender blender, but I’ve never heard of Bly using the Boss tone.

  • @EddieClark

    @EddieClark

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks! I got that info from the original tab books. Billy used a fuzz pulled from an old slide guitar. The Buzztone is that type of circuit. Once I learned that they were the same/similar circuits, I had to give it a try.

  • @dattoboy1

    @dattoboy1

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Eddie. I think I also hear the micro synth on the soma guitar solo, it seems to have that octave up thing going on. Could you do a video on how to play the solo?

  • @EddieClark

    @EddieClark

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dattoboy1 I can do that 👍 I am 99.9% sure there is no Microsynth on Soma but I will give it another listen 👍

  • @recklesstoboggan
    @recklesstoboggan2 жыл бұрын

    You absolutely nailed the tone, and more importantly, you get the feel so right. Can you use an EHx Pog in place of the EHx Synth? What are the settings on the synth (it's slightly too small to see in the KZread video)?

  • @EddieClark

    @EddieClark

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much! The Pog might be able to stand in but the pedal I recommend as a stand in is the EQD Bit Commander which has the bonus of not needing the compressor to keep the note sustained. The settings for the Microsynth are: Trigger: 0 Sub Octave: 80% Guitar: 90% Octave: 100% Square Wave: 100% Attack Delay: 0 Resonance: 40% Start Freq: 45% Stop Freq: 55% Rate: 0

  • @recklesstoboggan

    @recklesstoboggan

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@EddieClark Thank you!

  • @neurophysiotherapysolutions
    @neurophysiotherapysolutionsАй бұрын

    Hi Eddie. Great and instructive video. Just wondered if you had any thoughts on a similar replacement for the Distortion 2, now Made by Mike isn’t making pedals anymore? (Apart from the MXR distortion 2 obviously). Thanks in advance.

  • @EddieClark

    @EddieClark

    25 күн бұрын

    Sometimes I use a Klon Klone which works ok in a pinch. They generally handle fuzz before them (like the Buzz Tone) very well too.

  • @deftonedigga
    @deftonedigga Жыл бұрын

    Amazing video Eddie. Can I ask you about the lace Sensors. What pot values are you using with them? Many thanks in advance.

  • @EddieClark

    @EddieClark

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks! I’m just using 250k pots. Everything inside my black lace sensor Strat is stock.

  • @stevenreech8854
    @stevenreech8854 Жыл бұрын

    I have re created the board from your inspiration! Getting all the correct tones!! I am not that familiar with the eventide. What Siamese Dream songs do you use it on? And are they your custom settings? I found the pre set Spelunk one! Any other tips on The Harmonizer?

  • @luisguerra9479

    @luisguerra9479

    Жыл бұрын

    Its for Soma amigo

  • @stjhnn8592
    @stjhnn8592 Жыл бұрын

    Interesting approach, I wonder, if an OP Muff RI into a Behringer Bi-Phase would sound more accurate with way less pedal use. ;)

  • @SLIMMYPT
    @SLIMMYPT Жыл бұрын

    Eddie, just purchased the Deco and the micro synth, any chance of showing the exact parameters of the 2 pedals for this sound? Thank u

  • @chriskareska4017
    @chriskareska4017 Жыл бұрын

    Love this tone! Is the Dist2 placed after the Buzztone bc the Buzztone was presumably the model that plugged directly into the guitar? Sho-Sound Nashville issued a Buzztone. Wondering if Sho-Bud (Pedal Steel) is why this is referred to as a lap steel fuzz. Thoughts on that? Thanks!

  • @EddieClark

    @EddieClark

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks! I love it as well. That is exactly the line of thinking I followed here. The Buzztone is the first fuzz in my chain after the synth and octave effects. Followed by the Phase 100 and Dist II

  • @pedaltasters380
    @pedaltasters3802 жыл бұрын

    Wow! Your tones a spot on! Incredible! I've seen some of the other "sound like Smashing Pumpkins" videos that are not even close and pretty terrible to be honest. Everything in your videos is dead on from playing the guitar parts accurately to the subtle nuances of your technique and correct gear (pickups, amp and tubes, pedals, etc). The closest Siamese Dream tones I'd heard up until this point were on Elliot Stent's demo of the op-amp big muff, but you take it to a whole other level!

  • @EddieClark

    @EddieClark

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much! Elliot Stent's videos were part of my inspiration to to go after the recorded tones in a real way. Thanks for watching!

  • @pedaltasters380

    @pedaltasters380

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@EddieClark awesome covers! I'm currently learning the intro and outro to Mayonaise. Did you use a phaser and if so which one and also which pickup for Billy's part? Thanks!

  • @EddieClark

    @EddieClark

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@pedaltasters380 thanks mate. I play Billy's part with the neck pickup (blue lace sensor) through a MXR Phase 100

  • @pedaltasters380

    @pedaltasters380

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@EddieClark awesome, thanks for sharing! I really appreciate it!

  • @williamanthony175
    @williamanthony1752 жыл бұрын

    On the topic of the ebow, how about stand inside your love, (or effects wise) the rhythm for "by starlight"

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