relegation should be all teams not just guest spot that is dumb.

@willdallly8271

29 күн бұрын

if relegation were to hit all team, higher paying orgs (which keeps the league alive ) such as c9 and TL would potentially leave the league and go somewhere else, either way these teams usually are at the top of the scene , and since theres only gonna be 6 teams we can expect : TL/C9/Fly/100T/NRG to stay so we are likely only going to lose one or two of the shit team so its fine really (shopify rebellion / immortal / dignitas)

@z34567890123456

29 күн бұрын

⁠​⁠​⁠@@willdallly8271”Go somewhere else” to where else would they go now? Riot just made it so there’s only 1 “Americas” League so if C9 and TL want to leave they’re not going anywhere they would just be done lmao. Relegation should absolutely apply to every team, C9 should NOT be losing and if they do then they deserve to be relegated. If that’s not how the system works then don’t have relegation.

@johnmarkson1998

29 күн бұрын

@@z34567890123456 obviously you never watched soccer before. they make the money so they make their own super league with no relegation.

@lester8403

28 күн бұрын

Iam sorry but that statement is so stupid.... Like the best teams should stay and get promoted not the once with the most money!!!

@willdallly8271

26 күн бұрын

@@lester8403 you live in fantasy mate, business wise it wouldn't work or make sense to relegate teams every season and promote other random team, teams would stop getting rookies and rebuilds so they avoid relegation at all cost it would hurt the scene a lot more.

the day they got rid of relegation was the day I stopped watching league esports

@quiqly1581

29 күн бұрын

So true, it used to be so interesting to see if your team would survive relegation or not but now it's kinda a snooze fest.

@DKtrek21

29 күн бұрын

Yes, very true. Teams don't even have to worry about relegation anymore. Trash teams getting more trash every single split

@vang-toulee8351

29 күн бұрын

​@quiqly1581 huh? You were fan of shit teams? Cuz let me tell you none of the popular players back in the day faced regulations that often. And they would often 3-0 anyway.

@a_parkgaming1581

29 күн бұрын

hope u wont ever watch league again

@blackpepper2610

29 күн бұрын

bye

Tbh riot just made brazillians mad with lcs, like we dont care we suck we just want to have our special trash, also it will kinda destroy all the academy teams 4 teams and ppl that actual work for those teams. In the end it will probably fail cuz we won’t improve and the market will be reduced

brasils problem with the merger is that despite LOUD being the sole champion for 4 whole splits weve been having a blast lately, the co-streams doubled viewership and there are a lot of new and exciting rosters promissing long term projects that now might not have a chance on center stage, and for what? so NA can keep their investiments safe? be sure, the transition will be rough and retaliation is to be expected, majorly depends on which teams will be demoted, thing is, every single team this split has something going for them, FURIA is the safest one to kick out, but thats it, everyone else has too big of a fanbase or at least a reason to watch their games. If we could keep all of our teams there would be no problem, question is that 40% of our players and their staff will have no where to go, most will go for academy, which brings a whole new problem on itself. We are at a huge loss with the merger, what does NA has to offer? better pay for our players? most people in the country think they are being paid way too much already, theres nothing to be gained for the average viewer and our league has never been better. And people somehow are surprised we are mad, we dont care about LCS and LS's point of a domino effect is fear mongering, our league is solid and self sustainable, we dont need a constant stream of investiments to keep our doors open, we have solid organizations with strong sponsorship and our operational costs are significantly lower than LCS's This change will be met with pitchforks. We already proved we dont need riot to make a profitable tournament, this merger is the biggest red flag for LCS's survivability, i would be scared if i were you All that been said, RIP LLA

@octafish123

29 күн бұрын

+ brazilian fans don't really care about the poor level of play that brazilian teams have shown. We're here for the memes, the content and the criminal gameplay lol. Brazilian fans who want to watch high level gameplay can just watch the LPL and the LCK

@sugar4936

29 күн бұрын

waa waa. maybe itll help your region actually improve

@minecraftgameslive

29 күн бұрын

@@sugar4936 the thing is we dont really care if the region improves if we're losing 4 teams wich we really like and love to watch

@muniz9046

29 күн бұрын

@@sugar4936 we literally couldnt care less about good gameplay, besides, LCS is not exactly peak league of legends is it? average at most

@octafish123

29 күн бұрын

​@@sugar4936 bro brazilians couldn't care less about the improvement of the region gameplay wise. Our undisputed best team got defeated by GAM with 2 subs and the audience levels are still high

Oh boy, I sure love to see my small regional league from the south, that took much effort and passion for us to build by ourselves alone, being eating alive little by little for the survival of some ppl from the north that destroyed themselves, the CIA must be proud at least.

@guidaio

28 күн бұрын

The CIA part crack me! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@bobbyharris3764

27 күн бұрын

and people wonder why the government is trying to control the internet... xD

The only idea I like is that champions will not be able to be picked twice, that will be cool.

@hstater2

29 күн бұрын

Yea fearless draft is great. It’s been great in the LPL. Wish we would see even more of it

@halimawmanoodngyt

29 күн бұрын

Wish they would implement this in worlds too

@relykremok1225

29 күн бұрын

Riit loves T1/Faker too much, this is such a huge buff to them its actually genius since LoL is really old, its getting stale even for the viewers and this will give viewers a breath of fresh air

@nirvash241

29 күн бұрын

@@hstater2 its shit though.. they are doing that softcore so we still see the same shit most of the time... I want them to do hardcore where a champion that was picked once can't be pick anymore by BOTH TEAM.... LPL is softcore where only the team that picked a champ(for example Zeri) can't pick it on next game but other team can still pick champ (Zeri)

@nathanaelsallhageriksson1719

29 күн бұрын

I really like it in regular season bo3s, but I really don't want to see it internationally or in playoffs. When I watch blg vs geng in the finals, I want to see both teams coming at the match with their absolute best, and I don't have a problem seeing bin play jax multiple times if it makes the team perform optimaly.

Franchising in esports is a joke.

@VasmX

29 күн бұрын

How is it a joke if Valorant VCT has shown that it’s extremely successful in order to be sustainable in this esports drought?

@esc3107

29 күн бұрын

successful sure KEK ​@@VasmX

@kyoIWNL

29 күн бұрын

@@VasmX valorant came out less than 5 years ago VCT will be less successful in 10 years BECAUSE of franchising imo

@SarcasticSloth69

29 күн бұрын

@@esc3107 aint that hard to look up the numbers it's all on the escharts website. At least VCT Americas is more successful than whatever garbage the LCS has been producing. LEC also had 337,367 average viewers last split. More than double the average LCS views last split 🤣😂 cry all you want, y'all need this merger

@VasmX

29 күн бұрын

@@dr.bunchungus2976 Tell me how the current LCS franchising is working out. VCT's franchise system is clearly working for the esports scene as the viewership has broken records and the competition is even throughout all region. It's an obvious more sustainable model vs the current joke of a system that LCS is doing.

Yep, franchising for a volatile MOBA game is a disaster. Dota has existed for a very long time without franchising and I could say that they have a more exciting format. Just some random teams taking a chance at glory. Not this LCS where the same teams compete and the talent pool is not expanding.

@MatheusFreitasOrangeMaths

28 күн бұрын

I would love to have something as good as the compendium is for dota. But i'm pretty sure riot would just make a half ass season pass, that's kinda meh.

@alyasVictorio

23 күн бұрын

May I ask how does esports franchising works again?

@99temporal

19 күн бұрын

​@@alyasVictorio basically, you buy your spot at the tournament, and there's a limited number of spots So, you can't create a team to try to compete, if you're not one of the few teams that were allowed to buy a spot

They should just do away with franchising completely and take a page out of Dota 2 or Apex Legends' system where its truly a "fight-for-your-spot" system, introduce a pro-circuit where points = secure a spot in Worlds. Anyone, any team playing from their mother's basements can compete on the top of the scene if they're good enough. Make it so that all the "top-tier professionals" need to always perform or they lose their spot to no-names, would make the game very entertaining to watch again.

@Smogne

28 күн бұрын

Counter Strike does the same and the scene is huge, very profitable and has teams from all major globe regions... franchising on the scale of a dozen or less teams just breed subpar performance and bloated expenses and is bound to leave talent away from competing. If you want to franchise, you need a lot more teams to create a environment that allows some level of competence to emerge.

US: our region is failing at e-sports what do we do? Lets destroy other regions so they are forced to watch ours. BRILLIANT!

@vietnamsemonky4082

29 күн бұрын

Its called money, regard.

@catoblepas8697

29 күн бұрын

Brazil fans only care about brazilian teams and entertainment, losing 4 teams means losing 4 large group of fans.

@Mije101-bz8ph

28 күн бұрын

I didn't know Riot was an American company. 👀

@Materialist39

28 күн бұрын

2012 sc2 vibes

@bellsama6588

25 күн бұрын

​@@Mije101-bz8ph Yes.....yes it is.

As a cblol fan, this is terrible. Our league was thriving in viewership, getting record numbers every split and now they are gonna sacrifice 4 of our teams just to try to save the LCS. We are getting screwed for something that wasn’t even our fault.

@chewy1301

29 күн бұрын

cblol team suck every year, couldnt beat a team that reign for almost the entire history of it's region despite having half of it nuked due to matchfixing

@HenriqueRJchiki

29 күн бұрын

No one cares, cblol is a garbage region and you should be thankful it didn't just get straight up deleted.

@brunoxd151

29 күн бұрын

@@chewy1301when did I claim that we are good? Lol. Every Brazilian knows that we suck internationally, but we are very passionate about our domestic league and all of its teams, we have the second biggest viewership in the world, just behind the LPL.

@chewy1301

29 күн бұрын

@@brunoxd151 why in the world should riot, or any other corp fund money into a region with fuckarounds? its eventual that regions are going to be combined like valorant, theres simply not enough money to support all the minor regions

@chewy1301

29 күн бұрын

@@brunoxd151 Why wouldn't Riot merge CBLOL? The league is struggling with performance issues, and there's a lack of substantial financial investment in the scene, driven mostly by passion. Players aren't receiving fair wages compared to other regions, making it hard for them to maintain high performance levels. In contrast, Valorant's Americas league is achieving exceptional results. It seems logical for Riot to consider combining CBLOL.

Sorry for the long comment. I am Brazilian, but have been living in the U.S. for 5 years, so let me try my best to explain what is happening from our point of view. You need to understand that Brazilians and Americans watch LoL e-Sports for different reasons. Here in the America you guys want to watch a good gameplay and want to see your League performing good in the Worlds. We Brazilians want that too, but not to the same extent, we know we are never going to reach Asia levels of greatness, but we enjoy watching our favorite players and teams play. Most of us have a favorite team, and we are very passionate about that team, including me as paiN Gaming fan, I started playing League in 2012 and stopped in 2015, but has never stopped watching my paiN Gaming play, and if for some reason they were to stop to exist, I would completely stop watch CBLOL. And trying to speak for my people, I strongly believe this happens to most of us, so the fact that 4 teams will be out of the league means that a good chunk of fans will stop watching it. My other point is that the Brazilian economy is really bad, our country’s GDP is the same as the CITY of New York, so trying to keep our best players from leaving Brazil and going to the U.S. will be almost impossible. So you see a lot of Brazilians saying that Riot is doing that only to save LCS, and although these people are exaggerating a little bit, I don’t disagree with them, Riot Games is indeed being hypocrite. Compare what they are doing in the Americas with what they are doing in Oceania and part of Asia. Here they are mixing the dying LLA with the rising CBLOL, but in Asia they are mixing Japan and Australia, which are 6,800 km from each other, when they have South Korea (a “healthy” league) that is only 942 km. Meaning, that they are not saving the weaker leagues by putting them with stronger leagues, they only saving the LCS, by trying to get the viewers from Brazil. I believe that most of us would care less if Riot would say that we don’t classify to Worlds and MSI anymore than to this change, because we really don’t care about the other countries’ league, we just want to have a healthy Brazilian championship that we can follow the teams we love. With that being said, F LLA…

@tbone9474

20 күн бұрын

Don't worry, no region will ever reach Asian levels of dominance :) personally I'm all for variety as I'm sick of seeing the same champs in every game

@Skyflairl2p

19 күн бұрын

@@tbone9474 Asia will lose one day and thats a statistical fact. But to reach their consistent level of dominance, that's a different feat. One that at this point doesn't seem possible yeah. The U.S has always been like a whining child craving attention and pinning blame on those around them when shit goes sideways so im not surprised they now attempt to just grab CBLOL's rise in popularity as their own. I hope the CBLOL teams absolutely take over the northern teams and get paid what they deserve as a result at least - they are the only form of entertaining league in the americas after all.

i like the new change in champion playability but merging regions is ass.

@028TuvaluanHero

29 күн бұрын

It's good. Maybe LCS teams can learn some new tricks 😂

@eryalmario5299

29 күн бұрын

Merging it just means that only one team from that one region will be able to compete just like what happened in APAC. We don't have representatives from other countries. I think the top 3 or 4 should be able to compete in international tournaments.

@bmoneybesteves

29 күн бұрын

@@eryalmario5299 lol valorant does it and it's working

@tonilaseng4620

28 күн бұрын

It's good. Look at valorant. They get this idea from valorant. The regional games are more competitive and it is more exciting to watch because of the region merge in val.

@sisco47

28 күн бұрын

@tonilaseng4620 yes but that's because valorant was available to all of the americas at the same time. League in the us had a much farther head start than in the lesser regions. If you are na and play in lan or the lesser regions you'll notice a significant skill gap in each one. It was far easier to reach a higher tear in the latin american countries. At the end of the day I can't do anything about this. I can only voice my opinion and leave it at that.

Ruining other leagues for what? I am going to actively root against LCS internationally now.

@faker3033

28 күн бұрын

Cmon its not the teams fault😂

@Stranger-ut2iy

28 күн бұрын

How are you going to do that if the league will cease to exist starting next year? LoL

@DaviRBify

24 күн бұрын

@@faker3033 it actually is the LCS teams constantly force their will uppon the other leagues mostly bcs they envy that others have more fans then they do. So they make up alot of rules that only favor their side.

Not even upset honestly the West has been so terible for over a decade.

@marcusjohansson668

29 күн бұрын

Correction, LCS has. LEC has been pretty darn close a few times unlike LCS.

@Russiandude212

29 күн бұрын

@@marcusjohansson668 When is the last time LEC competed at an international finals? Literally close to a decade now, LEC is just as trash as LCS.

@dawn26s

29 күн бұрын

@@Russiandude2125 years is close to a decade for u huh?

@Saimiri1334

29 күн бұрын

@@Russiandude212you know nothing man; this year MSI LEC was in semis, 2020 G2 was in Semifinals at Worlds. Before Covid LEC was pretty much always a top contender. LEC was in Worlds Finals twice in a row (2018,2019), G2 won MSI 2019 and even the LCS was in the MSI finals in 2019. 2018 MSI Fnatic was in Semifinals and in FINALS at Worlds. 2017 MSI G2 was in Finals. Only just recently LEC missed out on Semis, but LEC/LCS still got in the top 8. And judging by the last Worlds, G2 played impressive against T1 and Top Esports, beating TOP and playing on the same level as T1 in their first round.

@VaMage

29 күн бұрын

@@Russiandude212 LEC beat LCK/LPL a bunch of times in recent years.

Riot introducing what's basically DSR in Smash terms into LoL Esports was not in my "2024 Gaming Bingo" card

"NA should be minor region" meme got real😂😂

All that guarantees is CBLOL and whatever LLA teams they get WILL get constantly shitcanned by whoever's left of the LCS by the regional finals, losing out a Brazilian representative 💀💀

So glad on how theScore team always do their research! This is probably the first non-brazillian platform that cared AT ALL to at least shine some light into the reasons why CBLOL audience was so frustrated and truly presents a neutral multiperspective of the announcement, while others such as LS only care to patronize people, hardstuck on their tunnel vision on "how amazing" the merge is for his own region and audience since, yeah, LCS teams competing against BR parties with CBLOL crowd hype is one hell of a boost for his own content, but do we as a region care at all for LCS players and teams AT THE EXPENSE of axing 40% of our competitive scene, with teams, players and local rivalry history that we DO care about? Ah yeah, sure sounds fantastic cutting off a limb so someone else can use it as crutch!

@_renz.c

15 күн бұрын

Very well said

Not sure how the LCS has survived this long, its been at least 5 straight years where no one watches the LCS and knows the result immediately for NA in Worlds, which is a group stage instant out

@haxingorPOL

29 күн бұрын

Kind asimilar to the polish national team in soccer

@sharpiefumes

28 күн бұрын

Didnt NRG beat G2 last year for quarterfinals?

@Okami400

28 күн бұрын

you saying everyone knew NA would beat EU?

The day has come family, let us embrace the final split of LCS

If were just merging leagues for bigger veiwers lets merge LPL and LCK. That way LCK fans will start watching the LPL teams its a win win. Any arguement against this merger can be used against the cblol and lcs merger.

@JellyBitz

28 күн бұрын

The point is quality. So we're gonna watch LPL/LCK every worlds finals? What's the point other regions exists? xdd

@wellesoncarvalho

27 күн бұрын

​@@JellyBitz then what's the point of merging 3 bad regions? LMAO merge LCK with CBLOL and LPL with LCS "Boohoo they are too far away" So don't merge anyone and let LCS die. This shit will NOT improve LCS, LLA, CBLOL skill.

Give me back my League! CBLOL did its bit. We created our own thing, we created our own fandoms, we made our own names, we have our own legends, we forged our own rivalries. While so many other leagues in the world were dying, we were thriving, we were stable. We did everything Riot said they wanted us to do; we were the model case of everything Riot said it wanted-a self-contained, "self-sufficient" league. And what is our reward? To see four of our teams get killed, to see our entire academy (which fucking works!) also die! In 12 years of existence, CBLOL had nine different teams that have won the championship! They said they would pick only six teams to go to the new conference. There are five teams that play today with three or more championships. Are we supposed to just give up our history? To just let a multi-championship-winning org die? For what? To help a bunch of spoiled rich fucks who don't know what competition is even if it smacked them in the face? All of this is just sad and unfair.

@thehentairevenant2309

24 күн бұрын

isnt CBCLOL "best team ever" just lose to a GAM with 2 sup player(one of which is a adc who have a 0-18 record?)

@carlosmarques3714

24 күн бұрын

​@@thehentairevenant2309 who tf cares? How is this related to his comment?

@carltonblend

24 күн бұрын

@@thehentairevenant2309 even if CBLOL didn't have a play in spot it would still be self suficient, with a steady viewership, what even is your point?

@thehentairevenant2309

24 күн бұрын

@@carlosmarques3714 isn OCE server got merged because the player is just so bad it not worth giving them a serperate sv, CBCLOL has been dogshit in pro play for years, this is expected TBH

@thehentairevenant2309

24 күн бұрын

@@carltonblend my point is it not worth giving them 1 slot in MSI or world, they re dogshit.OCE has gone through the same treatment before, cope

Since idk any other riot devs except Phreak, I’m just gonna blame Phreak for this

@patriciofloresdifilipo3713

29 күн бұрын

Riot tryndamere

@seth12786

29 күн бұрын

This has nothing to do with the devs honestly, this is all on the corpos

@nobody-bt7mu

29 күн бұрын

@@seth12786 It was a joke

@thecipher8495

29 күн бұрын

@@seth12786 you got any name for corpos?

@blackrook4120

28 күн бұрын

@@seth12786 I would say that the integration of fearless draft says that the esports branch has lost all hope that the balance and development(I mean as new broken champs) teams will ever do their job properly

Never really watched CBLOL due to the time zones but always loved when they arrived at the worlds. The energy was and is insane. I can't imagine the local impact it had. It would be absolutely a shame to mow down to try to increase the viewership in NA. The LCS can be reformed without sacrificing other leagues.

instead of balancing the champions .. they force the teams not to pick the same champions?

@cousinpatsey2471

29 күн бұрын

I'll be honest, it's actually really cool in the community HotS tournaments. Best characters can show why they're great, then later in a series you can see some really cool comps too. And rewards players for having a pool of good characters. Isn't great for quick play tho.

My biggest gripe here is cutting down to 6 teams from lcs/cblol. They could've only cut two cblol teams, kept all 8 lcs teams, kept every other change the same and had 20 teams total instead of 16.

I got a lot of recommendations about this story but I waited for your video to watch it. You are my trusted source for esports news!

While LCS and CBLOL are the focal points I'm actually a little curious about whether that means OPL will see any Riot investment again. It was a scene that was just starting to get its feet even managing to get a spot on the main stage games of MSI 2021. But Riot just completely pulled funding an involvement and told us that we could be counted as non-imports in the LCS because travelling across the world is totally viable...

@z34567890123456

29 күн бұрын

If you look at the Valorant structure, that seems to be what they are trying to copy. So probably not, considering Val has 4 Leagues (Americas, EU, Pacific, and China) that’s probably what they’re trying to set up in the LCS. It’s incredibly stupid. No thought is put into the idea that CBLOL was not only bringing big viewer numbers but also filling live event seats too. So now what? Brazilian fans that want to watch their team live have to fly to fucking LOS ANGELES TO WATCH????? It’s so fucked

I think the big thing is what teams are we losing? The NA perspective has been this is a good thing but most people are assuming we're loosing like IMT and Shopify but I have a feeling that's not going to be the case. If we end up losing some good middle of the pack teams like we did last time we lost two teams I really question if the bottom can rise up to fill those shoes.

I called that franchising was going to kill the LCS when it got announced. Everyone fell for the shilling of all the pro teams that would benefit from franchising

Surely nothing goes wrong over this merger lmfao

I guess Riot got their namesake off of this debacle. Between the $500 "tribute" to Faker, the scandals and all the "questionable" changes lately, I dare say that it's just right that people would *_riot_*

Brazilian here, and the biggest point for us is 4 teams being cut, it’s really tragic when during years you create a fan base and team culture and then you get to know that in 6 months 40% of that is being thrown away

LCS doing stupid shit and now CBLOL has to pay for their stupidity. absolute joke

@lester8403

28 күн бұрын

This isn't LCS doing some dumb shit its Riot doing some stupid stuff

@MsGraveDiggeRRRR

28 күн бұрын

@@lester8403 LCS has done some stupid shit, Riot isn't at fault for LCS's failure. Also, Riot also isn't at fault for CBLoL's success, lmao

@lester8403

28 күн бұрын

@@MsGraveDiggeRRRR you do know Riot owns and the founder of LCS😂 and therefore Riot Calla the shots... Its the same with all professional major leagues

@dennisbrown8003

27 күн бұрын

​@@lester8403Maybe you know that Riot is owned by the Chinese who can give a crap about anything the U.S wants, Tencent owns it just look at what happened to the show "Arcane" it brought new viewers and players to the game ,won awards, and now They already say after season 2 , no more Arcane, China does not care or want any NA company to be successful no matter what it is.

This is dumb in many ways. LCS isn't a self-sustainable league, and merging it with a self-sustainable league won't solve that, it will buy them a few years at best while dragging CBLoL along with them when bankruptcy day comes.

@brenoalthoff

29 күн бұрын

cblol is not self sustainable. Maybe is a bit better regards money than LCS but it was going to break in 3/4 years, every team owner spoke about it. This is Riot's way of keep a healthy 6/7 years for esports... (but it is badly done anyway)

@cascas12345678910

28 күн бұрын

Lets not pretend that this wasnt always gonna happen. Riot has been looking to downsize for years.

So every game is no longer going to be senna tahm kallista bot lane ?!?

I don't know who got the brilliant idea to cut teams from LCS and CBLOL and expect a positive feedback from the fans a league with 20 teams even if the NA and SA matches were online and not presential would bring the viewers together but this format they came up with? this is awful!

I love the LS's "it shows that Riot cares", yes, they care. But not about the game itself, they care about the profit they still can squize out of it in it's current state. They prevent this domino effect not for players sake, for profit sake.

@tingasthefriendlyfish2902

29 күн бұрын

if riot doesnt do this, more orgs will fail and thus the esport will. esports are not sustainable at all currently and majority of teams are losing money. reducing overall teams increases revenue sharing with said teams meaning they can actually survive

@raulsdrsd

29 күн бұрын

@@tingasthefriendlyfish2902 NA will fail, NA team will fail, brazil wont, china wont, korea wont

@felixpuscasu5625

28 күн бұрын

Speaking out of your ass. How do you know which leagues are self sustainable? Spoiler: none of them are, Riot admitted to this, since vasically the esport is just a massive PR campaign for them

@tingasthefriendlyfish2902

28 күн бұрын

@@felixpuscasu5625 thats why i said they're not sustainable at all... but they need to do things to change that

@khirsah666

28 күн бұрын

​@@tingasthefriendlyfish2902 but markz made a lot good changes. B4 we see the effects of those, they ruined another league. Roit just wants to cash out b4 lcs dies at this point. They don't care people are trying to save it.

Fearless draft is basically Meta Madness tournaments in Heroes of the Storm

Eu to otimista pra esse novo formato, mas triste pela saída dos times do CBLOL.

I foresee a lot of matchfixing ahead

One thing i've noted in the past few years is (and for an older league player like myself) the new champions in the last few years have insane toolkits and is a little hard to follow what's going on in team fights. We had much simpler champs, and more diverse champ pool in selection. Now it's the same ones day in day out. I'd love to see more local talent representing NA to actually cheer for. I get the need for top talent, but cheering for korea/china 2.0 isn't as fun to cheer for. TSM 2015

So instead of fixing their game design to allow more than a handful of champs in reach role to be viable at a time, they instead just force teams to use more champs? Peak riot games right there lmao

LCS is a Minor Region now - and Maybe they should bring back Promotion & Demotion games now

I think that what's most frustrating for a lot of people is that if CBLOL (and LLA, to a lesser extent) had the funding and attention that riot had given NA & the LCS, they would have performed so much better internationally. There are a ton of incredibly talented and hard working players in the Latin American regions that unfortunately just could never reach their peak due to the circumstances that they were born in, and now, they're being forced to commit to this "upgrade" where they'll have to play against and lose against players that are simply lazier and less talented, that will win because of better resources.

As a NA resident, NA teams suck. I do not even care for any of the NA teams. My last big care was for 100T, which has sense left me and I have moved on to caring more for LEC teams and LCK/LPL competition because it’s actually enjoyable to watch. Just scrap us. Riots been trying to keeps LCS alive for years and we’ve gone nowhere. Closest we’ve gotten was NRGs performance last year which I admit impressed me, but I don’t see LCS winning Worlds in the next 50 years even if League ESports persists that long, given the current performance state.

@paterpillar8533

29 күн бұрын

Let's not forget the NA pros wanted the academy scene that no one cares about

@PRWPanda

28 күн бұрын

I mean, the LCS has been performing better over the last year with NRG getting further than G2 and TL beating FNC. On the other side, Brazil has been weak for years.

@samwilliams0901

28 күн бұрын

@@PRWPanda NA 1st seed beat a trolling EU 2nd seed. NA 2nd seed got sent home by PCS before the tournament even started. And regarding NRG, they finished top 8 and you are still hanging onto it like some sort of significant achievement. Celebrating top 8 finishes is exactly the sort of minor region mentality that cost you a World's spot. Demand more than mediocrity, or hold the L and accept you belong in the same tier as CBLoL.

@Waajon

28 күн бұрын

@@paterpillar8533 this is true. I will say the NA community is stronger than anything.

@Waajon

28 күн бұрын

@@PRWPanda True, I did mention I was impressed with NRGs performance.

fearless draft sounds like a coach's nightmare lol

@namfingerstyle8403

28 күн бұрын

More like players nighmares

@ispear6337

28 күн бұрын

Hopefully it succeeds in diversifying champ pools because if it does we should see some coaches who don't suck shit at drafting standing head and shoulders above the rest. Draft quality has been so terrible for so long.

Soooo, league is no longer a sport? Because a SPORT would not hinder the PLAYING of said sport by forbidding the players to PLAY THE GAME completely. League is no longer an e-sport, it is 100% moneygrab entertainment, and the players are expected to be participants (actors). Kinda what happens if MONEY is all that matter and the love for the SPORT means nothing. Remember the Bully Reggie? The bully that said TSM is going to _reading notes_ "start a team in Korea instead". THAT is the kind of people RIOT has pampered, bullys and greedy tr*sh. SO SAD for SA to have to be included in that sh*t region! SA was actually entertaining to watch compared to the joke that was/is LCS.

@s4juno693

28 күн бұрын

Esports never gonna be Sports

@marcusjohansson668

28 күн бұрын

@@s4juno693 Ok boomer...

well as an Argentinian i think the big losers are the team from LLA but the last years it was a tournament that was already dying. For example KLG the team with more trophies from LAS disappear after bankrupt

@gustavorodriguesdeandrade2336

29 күн бұрын

Pretty much riot doesn’t care bout SA lmao they just didn’t do anything to improve it and decide to destroy both

@unkd7212

25 күн бұрын

I think lla was a bad decision to surge, like soo much Nice teams on Las with a history... Rainbow 7 infinity etc etc and they simply move the whole league to México Just because they dont want to allow the mexican teams to Join and try to take spots from lcs....

What happened to tsm ?

Still waiting for AK's Story

This could have been a short

I actually feel bad for Brazil combining our shit region with theirs.

Remembering that Riot are starting to share more cash from skin sales with esports orgs and that Riot are starting to limit test their whales with $500 skin bundles gives you all the context you need for these changes.

To be fair, who expected league of legends eSports to still be in existence anywhere in 2024? All good things will come to an end

That doge meme is way too apt! content gold! 🤣🤣🤣

Imagine Shopify buying a team then being told they don’t have a team. In any event I’m sure they’ll expand back in a few years and sell those slots.

I’m concerned for players’ wellbeing, with these changes. It seems that the additional tournaments and qualifiers will force players to play even more games, in a sport that already demands many more hours of time than any other sport. I don’t think we need to coddle pro players, but we should also be mindful of how demanding a sport LoL is. More games and tournaments could lead to higher player fatigue, burnout, and, over time, a less appealing sport for prospective pro players.

CBLOL dont need of the LCS

The PCS is already doing something similar and I think it worked fairly well.

Fearless is the best thing to happen, I can finally watch other champions be played

Eu não reconheço a lcs como uma liga legítima 🤏

Makes sense outside of paying players and small orgs there's is no money going into professional league in NA at all. Nothing to raise future players, nothing to get a staff group together and zero incentive for anyone to invest or sponsor anyone other then our what 50ish some odd pro players? there's nothing at the start to becoming a pro and most stop in the middle cause match fixing, selling accounts, gambling and streaming are the only ways to make money to live off of and still be able to practice as much as you need to. EU is much the same but it's slowly changing there more money is a slowly being invested i was really hoping G2 would win MSI cause that slowly would pick up it's pace if they did.

I really like that champions wont be able to be played twice

Copied from my post on The Dive's YT page. For the guest spot topic I think the setup should be that there are 3 guest slots, but 1 slot opens up per year as needed (up to 3 max). Then the bottom two teams in LCS get relegated IF they are not a franchise team - so year 1 the guest has 2x chances to be relegated. If the guest team doesn't fall into the last 2 places, no team gets relegated and another guest spot opens up the next year. This pattern repeats until all 3 guest spots are filled. If all 3 are filled, the lowest ranked guest team will be relegated even if they didn't come into the bottom two and no guest slots are lost. If two guest teams out of 3 are in the bottom 2, both are relegated and 1 guest slot is loss. If two guest teams out of 2 are in the bottom 2, then both are kicked and 1 guest slot is lost. This is done to only ever allow 1 guest into LCS per year (up to a max of 3). Franchised teams will obviously never be relegated. I think this way there is potential for teams to make it into the LCS and stay if they are good, and also guest teams can be removed and added more organically. Then if a franchised team always makes bottom 2 when there are 3 guest teams they should be kicked from franchise or sell their spot.

Nah its crazy that LCS drags down other regions for their own good

na hasn't had a dub in so long

@yeeticusfinch4377

29 күн бұрын

We just beat Europe again

@Mika-ux6oj

29 күн бұрын

Faker v NA = Faker.

@samwilliams0901

28 күн бұрын

@@yeeticusfinch4377 keep celebrating top 6 finishes, that's the kind of minor region behaviour that lost you a World's spot and 2 teams.

Pro players will need to improve their games if they want to keep their job.

Another thing that comes to mind is conditioning. If you keep making the same move over and over again, people will start predicting it, counting on it, etc. Riot keeps making terrible moves year after year, so of course no matter what they say will be met with negative feedback. And they deserve all the negative feedback, and more.

I think less than 50%of the community have thattime patroll skill, do a poll please.

Why is freddie dredd telling me about lcs

franchise leagues are the death of esports, fearless is a good idea tho

Riot is weirdly obsessed with combining north and south america

so na when for 3 to 1 spot in the worlds basically.

Fearless draft should be the norm for pro play. All matches should be played with fearless draft

Sadly we will be left with LPL vs LCK at world's, again.

por isso e-sports nunca serão esportes, a riot muda o que quer, quando quer e por debaixo dos panos. Os caras nunca deram a mínima pro brasil enquanto região mesmo que nossos números sejam comparáveis aos das maiores ligas, ta certo que a gameplay é precária, mas os caras só querem mesmo é saber dos números e por isso tomaram essa decisão de merda.

Does anyone else remember the good ol' promotion relegation days. Complexity black? Lmq? Anyone?

Just have teams be relegated and replaced by promoted Tier 2 teams (like in soccer). Perform or suffer the consequences.

What’s a “Split”?

@RockyKThao

29 күн бұрын

Basically the "at home" tournament with all teams of said "home" play against each other to find their placements, ie NA vs NA, EU vs EU, etc.

@elfyar5786

29 күн бұрын

before big tournaments the local scene in this case the LCS (north american region) plays games over a couple of weeks then have play offs and determin the best team of the region and usually first place then gets a worlds spot (basically your icehockey or football season). for league the first split (called spring split) is for MSI (mid season inivitational) and the second split (called summer split) is mainly for worlds qualification (rough explanation)

1:26 - Now THIS will be good for LOL Esports .. I don't care about the teams but you can't always pick the same champ all over again in every freaking game .. Now we'll see how PRO, these players really are or NOT ~ 😎🍻

fearless draft YES

I'm from North America, and hearing this. Good. I honestly don't care for LCS anymore. I only follow other regions now. Didn't care for LCS since god knows forever, its been a while since the golden days of CLG, TSM and etc. Anyway....what else is new...for LCS now... lol.

I like the ban change though. The rest is bad. Will be nice to see a few more champs.

I guess Riot is doing this because they saw that minor regions cant become as strong as major regions so they are merging them into bigger regions in hopes of them getting better by playing vs stronger opponents. Its kinda okay, but I think it would be better if leagues had more teams. How can China has 17 teams without problems while others have 10 at max?

Its insane how bad competetive scene is in league of legends compared to Dota or CS

Never mind this, who of you bought the new Ahri skin?????

Going from 10 teams to 8 now was a terrible decision. And now from 8-6 is even worse. I’d rather see longer regular seasons with BO3s and shorter end of season runs 6 teams is wack

Honestly, the fact T2 is competing for that single guest slot, that might actually make T2 the thing to watch cause the competition is gonna be fierce.

This is an awful decision for the cblol, theyre getting sacrificed to try and make up for the damage that franchisment did to the lcs. It could be a good thing for some of the smaller se asian regions though.

"everything just changed in tier 1 LoL." I'm pretty sure the Americas are like tier 2.

Brazillians are not happy about this. We were very much happy with what we had, the region of entertaiment, very fun to watch. Even if i haven't played league in years.

Riot keeps making big changes because of viewership stagnation, but the majority of players who brought the fans here don’t play any more, you miss a split and half the players you loved are gone. It can be jarring. Now this is necessary in order for the scene to develop and grow, but growing pains is part of that. They gutted the broadcasts in Lcs and Lec to try and make it more fiscal, and they’ve maybe done irreparable damage..

Let the lcs fail alone, don't drag us to their grave.

Ningún latinoaméricano que mire la liga latinoamericana,se quejaría,esa liga ya estaba muerta.

Is league balance so bad that they needed to make sure that champions wouldnt repeat with the feraless draft ?

@colinmcintyre9074

29 күн бұрын

Nah it’s because people don’t want to see k’sante be played for 3-5 games. If what you’re saying was the case then fearless draft would’ve been implemented forever ago. Fearless is being used to make the regular more entertaining and increase viewership. IMO fearless works best for teir 2 because it’s the next Gen of players

@tingasthefriendlyfish2902

29 күн бұрын

not even to do with balance, majority of pro teams dont draft properly or optimally anyway so forcing them to pick more champions is fine

I took the double hit of Vanguard on the client and CBLOL being gutted as a divine sign to uninstall LOL and stop watching it.

About relegation, I know it would be a big financial blow to orgs but its the same in football and clubs come back. It gives more incentive for every team to fight for every game

When they franchised, it killed the dream of many. Including mine. Now NA can't even contend.