Unbelievable how patronising Nick Clegg is throughout that debate. It's people like him who represent the old guard who need to be kicked out of politics.

@ChrisDynamo

10 жыл бұрын

That Romania and Bulgaria thing; there are combined over 28.6 million, it's hardly a gaffe to say that there's 29m.

@trisiti

10 жыл бұрын

Chris Dynamo Nick Clegg knows he has minutes left in his political life .

@rafaelsmithsmythsmith782

10 жыл бұрын

Chris Dynamo Indeed, 28,772,121 to be exact from the latest figures I can find. Rounding such numbers is very common practice and I will eat my entire house and garden if Nick Clegg has never, ever, ever rounded a number up during his political life. Who does he think he is kidding? I find it insulting he thinks we are that stupid that we can't find out for ourselves with a quick google. Class tit that boy.

@dunholm1

10 жыл бұрын

trisiti I hear that the Libs have already booked a beach hut for their post-General Election conference.

@edwardcaplen6848

10 жыл бұрын

Chris Dynamo There's only 21.22 million romanians in romania.

Farage completely destroyed Clegg. It's funny to watch.

@chrisroger8774

4 жыл бұрын

Yes please people who vote out of EU red tape nonsense great nearly 50 years of pay into EU gravy Train

Wishing the Bristish people all the best in regaining their own right to rule their country! - From Switzerland.

The problem is Farage hasn't been trained in the art of deception, as have the other prominent politicians. Clegg keeps repeating the same lines, dressed up to win peoples' emotions, again and again. Whereas Farage actually states real facts, appealing to logic rather than emotion. I hope the British people have enough sense to back Farage.

@andrewfuller5053

10 жыл бұрын

however it's arguable a lot of his 'real fact's don't add up entirely, I'm not against Farage and I admire his full honest approach to politics, something lacking in the UK at the moment, but his stance on climate change and some elements of immigration make me skeptical of UKIP

@inqognitoswede5868

10 жыл бұрын

Andrew Fuller what exactly is it that doesnt add up? cause everything ive heard Farage say on these two subjects are spot ont.

@crofters93

10 жыл бұрын

Oh my... Isn't it sad that our elected politicians are so out of touch that they manage to make ex-Tory, public school boy Nigel Farage look like a man of the people. Whether the public find themselves 'in' or 'out', they won't be electing either one of these two parties for many reasons, regardless of their stance on Europe.

@aldilidl1446

10 жыл бұрын

The problem is, UKIP don't have one single person in our elected house. That's the problem. They are just a pressure group.

@ROLLO2able

10 жыл бұрын

Andrew Fuller You believe in 'Climate Change' as they do? Mother Earth has been 'changing' since day one and NO amount of money will stop it, ask King Canute, so why do they insist on STEALING money from people? The man in the street is being conned by business to pay for the 'discovery and implementation' of renewable energy, while they reap the rewards? This guy wrote the Agenda 21 report; the-classic-liberal.com/maurice-strong/ clearly a person on the make, remember the food for oil scandal in China? This is him.

Whether or not you agree with him, Farage outclasses them all

@ScottJonesy

10 жыл бұрын

This.

@ChrisThomson1001

10 жыл бұрын

xKenq I did not know that pieces of wood could get married, nor did I know that democracy was a sign of idiocy

@flame5676

10 жыл бұрын

xKenq what system would you rather have anarchy- a system where all humans would massacre each other fascism - no freedom racism and prejudice of all kinds communism- every one is poor and in a word oppressed socialism- punishing the rich for being rich democracy and capitalism allow ambition , allows change and allows all people to live without fear of discrimination. we have been making great progress on this with gay marriage and our anti race laws as well as trying to get women equal pay rather than be subservient to men

@wobble3859

10 жыл бұрын

xKenq Bad troll is bad. "Faggot marriage"? Methink's the lady doth protest too much! "Women shouldn't even need to work" Please tell me you are joking. So without your homophobic rants, your far-right insults on anyone who happens to live in the 21st century and your ridiculous statements about women, socialism (?) and seatbelts (?), can you give an example of a better system than democracy?

@wobble3859

10 жыл бұрын

xKenq Yes. Monarchy is better than democracy. You are absolutely correct. Instead of electing officials to rule for us, we should be dominated by a family that have no idea what the common man/woman experiences. You sir, are a genius! That kind of thinking could revolutionise the 2nd century BC. Time for you to stop trolling on youtube and to get working on that time machine.

Nigel's reactions to Clegg's absurd arguments = priceless

Good job farage

The moment Nick Clegg said the words "little England", He should resign as deputy prime minister

@dunholm1

10 жыл бұрын

kd84afc In my humble opinion Clegg referring to "little England" was the defining moment of the entire debate and a grotesque error of judgement. It showed how out-of-touch he is, and exposed his view that the English as a free and independent people means nothing to him. I've been called a "little Englander" many times on YT. Rather than being insulted, it is a badge I wear with pride.

Farage > Clegg Voting UKIP 22nd May 2014 in the European Elections and the General Elections 2015.

@emilybeck2579

10 жыл бұрын

Sure!

@aizhongguo5812

10 жыл бұрын

My cat has more chance of getting a seat in Westminster than anyone from UKIP.

@Thingamajigs

10 жыл бұрын

Ai Zhongguo You're delusional, as is anyone who thinks UKIP don't speak sense. Politicians and people like you will soon become a minority.

@aizhongguo5812

10 жыл бұрын

***** Thingamajigs Facts speak louder than words. The fact is UKIP after 23 years have zero MPs. That's the facts. Ukip will never have an MP.

@AsherPiesman

10 жыл бұрын

Ai Zhongguo Well I'm not going to give up hope whatever the outcome, I support what I belive in not who has the biggest number of MPs

Even in the opening statement Farage ruined Clegg.

It's refreshing to see a politician who gives straight answers, whether you agree with Farage or not at least you know.

@samuelpeterchristopherbrit8293

2 жыл бұрын

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@britsfirstfitness5026

2 жыл бұрын

He is the only honest politician. He should be running this country.

Nigel says the same things I've been thinking. He's got my vote

@rufus1346

Жыл бұрын

So you voted for this mess, do you still think you knew what you voted for? Or did you vote to make the rich richer and every other person worse off. Thanks for making my children's future a bleak one you knuckle dragging imbecile......

Nice debate, Nigel!

Farage won.

Population of Bulgaria = 7,364,570 (2011 Census) Population of Romania = 20,121,641 (2011 Census) Total = 27,486,211 Clegg is just splitting hairs. Nigel's point is not that the entire populations of Bulgaria & Romania will pitch up in Britain but the fact that they have the right to do so if they so chose and there's nothing whatsoever we can do about it.

I am American and I freaking love Nigel Farage. :)

POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!! We make the choices not clegg or cameron

Watching this in 2022 you can see the amount of BS Clegg was talking back then.

@denon7474

7 ай бұрын

LITERALLY! Talking about things that are physically impossible as an EU member, and which we all now know he was knowingly barefacedly lying about

@ozzie2612

3 ай бұрын

@@denon7474 and we're doing so well now , ahaahhaahhahahaha

The sooner Clegg leaves politics the better. Never believe him since his lies.

Nigel speaks sense, Clegg is a typical self serving liar.

Look how Nick Clegg talks to the camera. It's so disingenuous with his soundbites and his trained body language with the forced hand gestures. He's such a phoney. At least Nigel speaks and acts from the heart and not like a puppet who's strings are being pulled by other people.

@RiverSpringer

10 жыл бұрын

A poor display of Neuro Linguistic Programming from the shameful Deputy PM

@tomdrowry

10 жыл бұрын

Yes I agree, though more voters now are starting to see through the fake slick presentation & lies of slimeballs like Clegg

@RiverSpringer

10 жыл бұрын

Damon Conlan I don't think there is anything more dishonest than an elected MP who threw millions of students of today and in the future into the financial fire for his little slice of power. Maybe you watched a different debate than me? One where Nick Clegg actually answered questions and not jump around questions with diversion techniques. I'm glad you see this as not being dishonest...

@GavinAyling

10 жыл бұрын

Iain L He made a promise about tuition fees when it wasn't obvious how much debt the government was in. When he was in power (albeit with the Conservatives) he agreed to a new tuition fee structure that only charges those who can afford to pay it and which is fair on everyone (why should taxpayers subsidise rich, educated people?)

@RiverSpringer

10 жыл бұрын

Link me some evidence of this please. Yes you are right taxpayers shouldn't subside the rich, but we shouldn't be subsidising Europe's poorest countries either.

FARAGE OUR POLITICAL SAVIOUR HAS WON!!

Nick Clegg keeps talking about clout I wish someone would give him one.

I liked the UKIP argument more. Nigel spoke about how the EU is shackling a great country that could do better. Clegg was pretty much telling us how inadequate we are.

@antoniomari2730

2 жыл бұрын

Sorry, with all the respect, just for know, but also right now in this moment, you still think the same thing?

Statement of the hour: "worlds largest economy" bore off Clegg, unless you meant "worlds largest collection of fascists" Farage won this debate without a shadow of a doubt and engaged with the audience. It was really refreshing to see Nigel debate on this subject with the likes of the Deputy Prime Minister, I just hope for Britain's sake Farage is able to participate in the TV debate at the general election and pray that the British people wake up and become free again. Rule Britannia.

@serenityinside1

Жыл бұрын

We did .. we did it 😆😆😆!! Freedom ❤️

50.01 I've had enough UKIP you have my vote....Nick Clegg; leave the country...

Well Done LBC. The Ministry of Truth would never let this debate happen.

Does Clegg ever answer the question he is actually asked!

Farage won hands down. Clegg is a tape recorder.

@davidcraven1702

3 жыл бұрын

and farage is an outright liar 1

Ukip gave direct replies to questions whereas LibDem's went off tangent all the time and put the scare the audience at every opportunity.

I'm Clegg the Smegg, deedle, eedle, eedle, um, I love EU regs, deedle, eedle, eedle eedle, um, Wherever I go, whenever I come I always bang the Brussels drum...

Did I hear this correct? 2% of child benefit claimed is for children abroad. Clegg seems to think that's a small minority when that seems incredibly high to me.

@ROLLO2able

10 жыл бұрын

High, It's higher than the alleged Benefit fraud, 0.7% and look how they castigated the unemployed and disabled over that? Even the 'error' rate, 1.3%, is higher and nobody was sacked? Benefit fraud £1.1 billion, Error £2.1 billion, child benefits abroad £3.88 billion, Total Job-Seekers Allowance £4.9 billion?

Absolutely love Nigel. Definitely voting for him.

Well done to the straight talking Nigel. As always Nigel answers the questions and Nick goes all political by avoiding answering them. I know who I am voting for; do you? UKIP 22nd May.

Concerning Siemens, Clegg is lying. I know a high ranked person working for Siemens and the fact is, when they buy a company to save or create jobs, even though it costs them money, they have deals with countries that give them advantages on some other businesses etc...

It's not about left and right anymore - It's about right and wrong. Bring back the British Sausage I say. Say NO to the EU and reclaim Britannia for the Britons.

As part of the younger generation who hedged what little faith we had in politics upon Clegg's claims of cutting tuition fees, only to be stabbed in the back; his infuriatingly bureaucratic evasion of the issue only further illustrates his detachment from reality. I couldn't care less whether Farage employed his wife or not - Betraying a whole generation is not in the slightest bit comparable.

Nick Clegg: Before the European Union there was no trade in Europe.

@shedendpussys

10 жыл бұрын

Tell me about it, he must believe we are still living in an era where free trade between nations is something that's difficult to achieve. Like the only reason we have it is because the gods of EU make it so.

@Fastdags

10 жыл бұрын

Nick Clegg is absolutely correct and his view cannot be challenged. So how dare you do so, Sir! Before the UK joined the EU (Common Market) in 1973 we didn't do a single £'s worth of trade with any country in Europe. This is an absolute fact, as Nick Clegg rightly pointed out and Nigel Farage is just plain wrong. We didn't buy any of Europe's goods, nor did Europe buy any of ours, as it was illegal under European and International Law. That's why we had to join the EU (Common Market) so that we could legally enter that market place. We also didn't do any trade with the rest of the World because they had never heard of the UK until we joined the EU (Common Market) in 1973. This is why Nick Clegg's argument about us leaving the EU is so bullet proof. We mustn't under any circumstances leave the EU, or we will go back to pre-1973 days and overnight all our trade with Europe will have to stop, by law. We will also enter into obscurity as far as the International Market Place is concerned. This is reason alone for staying in the EU. ;)

@shedendpussys

10 жыл бұрын

Fastdags You forgot to mention we will instantly revert back to living in caves, language will cease to exist and any technological innovation within the last three thousand years will vanish in a puff of smoke. I'm sold, Nick is right!

@mengelmoesNL

10 жыл бұрын

***** Also: in the age of decentralisation (3d printing, Bitcoin, internet etc) we need massive stone-age bureaucracies to compete with China!

@djohnsonmusic

10 жыл бұрын

If we're wanting to talk about "Before the European Union," how about this? Before the European Union, we had hundreds of years of war between Britain, France, Germany, Italy etc. While its unlikely war would be declared the day we left, there is something to be said for such strong diplomatic links keeping peace in a land previously plauged by war: since 1951, there was been no inter-state war between any two members of the EU.

Farage should turn up to the BBC debate drunk and blindfolded with earplugs. He'd still send pinocchio packing.

It would be great to see Britain out of Europe - looking forward to it!!

@loZooDelloSchioppo

10 жыл бұрын

btw, politicians are what they are, but the low level of the audience in that studio - bigots laughing out to pub kind of jokes, its just shocking.

@romanianskill

10 жыл бұрын

Connor Sheehan Welcome to the U.S. would you like one war with your coffee or two?

Farage missed a trick near the start: Clegg claimed that, at the time of the Lisbon Treaty/European Constitution's passing, the Liberal Democrats supported a straight in/out referendum (but ceased to see the need for one after it was a done deal, apparently). That, they alleged, was why they wouldn't back a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty/European Constitution alone -- they didn't think such a referendum would have gone far enough! In reality,they didn't support a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty/European Constitution OR an in/out referendum. They never tried to pass a bill authorising an in/out referendum in the Commons, and when UKIP peers tried to pass one in the Lords they voted against it! The man is an obvious liar; the broken tuition fees pledge underlined underlined it and this performance added the highlighter ink.

Vote Ukip and get out of EU and be better off like we use to be

@dunholm1

10 жыл бұрын

***** How will we be better off out? Well, we could start with the £54 million a day membership fee and go from there, if you wish. And when were we better off? When we and we alone governed our own country, perhaps, and made all of our own laws. Or even perhaps when we could choose which light bulb we wanted to use without some foreign and unelected fkn bureaucrat poking his nose in.

@dunholm1

10 жыл бұрын

***** The £54 million a day membership fee has never, to the best of my knowledge, been seriously contested by anyone which is why UKIP continue to point it out. And where do you get the idea that our gross contribution is only £16.4 million? A quick Google showed a net - not gross - contribution in 2011 of almost 5 billion Euros. That's 5 billion of our hard-earned taxes simply given away to the unelected bureaucrats of the EU to spend as they see fit. How many doctors or teachers could we pay for with that kind of money? How many of those on low incomes, such as pensioners, could we take out of fuel poverty? I agree that our democracy was not perfect. In fact, far from it. But at least we had the chance to boot out those who failed our expectations. But we don't even have that now, for we do not elect and cannot remove 90% of the MEPs, and we can't even begin to touch the unelected bureaucrats who hold the real power. Give me an imperfect democracy rather than no democracy at all, for few can deny that the EU is about as undemocratic as it gets. But worse, it won't change. Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. You really believe that those in control are going to surrender one iota of that control? They want more, not less, and that fkn snake-oil salesman Cameron knows he's talking bollocks when he spouts about "repatriation of powers". The EU is a sinking ship, and we need to get off or go down with it. PS light-bulbs - I was making the point that the EU interfere in practically every aspect of our lives. And that EU "eco-friendly" bulb? It contains the neurotoxin mercury.

@DaBIONICLEFan

10 жыл бұрын

***** We used to be number 1...even above China and the US until the 1970s...when the Suez Crisis and incidentally Britain's entry into the EU happened. Ever since we joined the UK has slowly gone downhill. We need out before we end up like all those other poor countries like Spain and Italy, even France's economy is going down the toilet.

@dunholm1

10 жыл бұрын

***** My god, a book! I restate what I said before - our net annual contribution in 2011 was just under 5 billion Euros. Money wasted. Given away to prop up a failing EU and other failing economies. Money that, at a time of huge national debt and austerity should be spent here, where it was earned. I won't even bother with your comment about how we'll lose jobs if we leave. Clegg has tried on that lie twice, and failed twice.

@itz4kix

10 жыл бұрын

dunholm1 There is a very good reason for spending money on what were Soviet block [now EU countries] so as to improve their infrastructure & thus make them more attractive to inward investment. The reason being that unless they do attract said inward investment then their economies will sink into an abyss which will almost certainly result in civil wars that will both spill over into & drag in the rest of Europe [including the UK]. PS - little wonder that UKIP want to drastically enlarge the UK's armed forces as they do since even UKIP understand this!!

clegg is speaking as a politician. Nigel is speaking as a politician and as a British citizen

@teambmmedia7919

10 жыл бұрын

What's makes you think that? Please feel free to explain ...please

@RobertBedfordVEVO

10 жыл бұрын

no explanation as to why he's increased student fee's, the impact the human rights is having on deporting foreign criminals, the impact mass immigration is having on driving wages down. None of these questions were answered. Nigel answered as a citizen of the UK who's experienced first hand what's happening

@ROLLO2able

10 жыл бұрын

Clegg is speaking as a Politician who is in receipt of an EU pension and to speak out against them would cost him that pension! Which is why we have Kinnock and Mandleson also speaking up for the EU! THEY'VE BEEN BOUGHT!

@christulloch3473

10 жыл бұрын

Robert Bedford How has Nigel Farage a former city banker ever had to deal with the threat of a foriegn worker taking his job! Also which human rights act are we talking about. Is it the same europe convention of human rights that was signed into being by Winston Churchhill in 1951 and was mostly drafted by Sir Oscar Dowson another torie and home office advisor? The Human rights act is not the fault of the EU it was around before the EU even existed! This is why i am worried about a in/out vote on the EU because goons like you don't seem to have a real clue what is and isn't decided or implemented by the EU or not! I don't want my ability to move around freely and work all over europe taken from me by people like you when you can't even make an informed argument to leave based on actual facts not just Daily mail anit eu propaganda! God nearly a million british people just live in spain. with something like another million+ spread over the rest of europe. Don't think that if we close our borders other countries won't do the same. No freedom of movement for them means no freedom of movement for us. If you think our health service and housing are struggling now wait until it has to deal with an extra million people something like 50-60% pensioners forced to return from spain(bet spain can't wait to get rid of that drain on there health service). My sister lives in spain and has for 10 years. i love her but she doesn't speak the language, lives in an area with all British people. Hasn't integrated to their culture at all. Most British people think that behaviour is fine. there is this very colonialist attitude we seem to have in the UK where if someone comes here they are an immigrant and if they haven't got perfect english and live near other people from there background they aren't integrating but if we go to there country its okay because we are ex-pats and thats different and different rules apply to us its very hypocritical.

@jackwing1949

10 жыл бұрын

Clegg is a load of convoluted word salad. He is actually a far more refined and skilled speaker than Farage, but unfortunately he is TRYING to use that to distort reality and hoodwink the audience into believing the two and two is not really four when you think about it the Clegg way. Whereas Farage simply comes with the truth, basic logic, common sense and a profound love for his county

This aged well for Clegg

@JupiterThunder

6 ай бұрын

Clegg was out of his depth - he was crushed, demolished, & dismantled on every question, and bashed out of the ring into the 8th row. It was a total and utter humiliation for Clegg, and led to the end of his political career.

What Nick Clegg didn't mention when saying 7% of UK law is related to EU law is that 14% of secondary legislation is related, and that EU Regulations are not counted as they don't require UK legislation to be effective in UK law.

CLEGG GO AND GET A JOB IN GREECE AND TELL THEM HOW GREAT IT IS IN THE EU .OR SPAIN ,PORTUGAL. ITALY. OR IRELAND ETC ETC ETC ..........

Facts v emotion, I wont vote for any of the main stream parties again, Clegg clearly is out of touch with the British people

Back in the seventies the British public were led to believe they were joining a trading agreement when they were led like donkeys into the Common market since then the renamed EU has been slowly morphed into a political union that has left us swamped with economic migrants and Romananian gypsy pickpockets that is run by a conglomerate of largely faceless foreign meddlers that we have absolutely no power to vote out of office. Yes British politicians are a motley crew,but at least we have some ability to replace them via the ballot box. We do not need to be bankrolling Eastern european states left broke by Russia's soviet empire.Russia should be paying for the damage it caused not us. I do hope we get a referendum very soon to leave,and that the European migrants living in the UK will not be allowed to cast a vote as they are unlikely to favour the UK's true interest.

@Mrnapoleon121

10 жыл бұрын

The aspiration of founders of the European Community (well Coal and steel community first) was to eventually create a more political union. When the UK joined they should have seen that there was a gradual move towards more co-operation within in the EC. The UK should have realized what they had gotten themselves into.

@Iazzaboyce

10 жыл бұрын

A decision with such serious ramifications as to deprive a nation of its self governance should require 75% to ratify.

@Iazzaboyce

10 жыл бұрын

Damien Ord I wasn't old enough to vote, but I remember people were told it was all about trade and nothing else - the joke is the shops were full of stuff made in Japan. It was Heath that took us in without a referendum after promising in manifesto to 'negotiate no more no less'. Labour and the Unions were against the joining for all the reasons we are complaining about now. Labour gave the people a referendum Thatcher said the people were too thick to have a referendum on the common market, but could probably understand/manage one on hanging.

@poetryreincarnations

10 жыл бұрын

Alex Semen Only impose decades of dictatorship murder and mayhem throughout Eastern Europe in the guise of the soviet union and cause further mayhem in Ukraine is that doing nothing ?

@poetryreincarnations

10 жыл бұрын

Ai Zhongguo From pickpocketing in Britain's high streets to rifling through the bins outside my house that's where

Cameron is running the country ....nah nah nah,, Cameron was probably in a room full of his staff watching this debate, taking notes and being worried, same for Milibland too.....Farage WON the debate and as for the coment that Farage did not address using Christian names....yes he did...cant wait for part two

@victoriaplum997

10 жыл бұрын

May be try listening, he got the figure directly from the horses mouth, vivienne whatever, one of the unelected EU nazis. Gordon Brown even admitted it was over half and that was years ago, so how can it possibly be 7%

@mrspenn1611

10 жыл бұрын

***** sorry John Smith my fellow Dark Side of the Moon fan.... the stats are clear, Farage won the debate.... 57% Farage....7% don't know......36% Clegg....I voted Clegg in the last GE.... Farage all the way.....

@mrspenn1611

10 жыл бұрын

victoriaplum997 it was Vivienne Reading...

the audience seemed rigged and Farage still kicked his butt.

@jackwing1949

10 жыл бұрын

“The truth has a certain ring” - Hemmingway

this has aged well. Clegg has been proven completely wrong - and he now earns millions at facebook. Like all politicians - a complete sell out!

everyone stand up for Democracy and vote UKIP!!

Farage is the only one speaking any sense.

Clegg accusses Farage of scare politics and then there is a whole fallacious argument using the old scare tactic of paedophiles and murderers. consider that a low point in your life clegg

Admittedly prior to this debate I never really knew much about Clegg, except seeing him acting compassionate and caring occasionally on the news. After watching this I had never realised how deceitful and arrogant he really is. I walked in on the highlights after the debate on the day it was shown. At the moment where Clegg was filmed being escorted away in the car refusing to accept any questions. On the other hand when it came to Farage he stopped and eagerly answered any question that came his way. Just comes to show who really cares about the people of Britain.

Farage took down Clogg easily. Just a much better speaker and correct in his analysis of Europe. 7 years later, Britain’s out and ‘Ol Nick’s been banished into obscurity. Brilliant!

@ozzie2612

3 ай бұрын

just like the uk has

Clegg got destroyed! Time to get out of Europe.

this is how prime ministers should be conducted every week not the farce we see in parliament they should have to be answerable to the people face to face

@johncillo6179

10 жыл бұрын

that sounds like democracy..

@ochuspokus

10 жыл бұрын

Well that's how it used to be. The House of Commons being divided in half, is so that two opposing opinions/parties can debate opposing sides. But democracy has one weakness - And that is, if all the parties agree on the same important issues, AND can easily sway public opinion. Well, all the major parties agree on the EU and they have their spin doctors in the media. Just look at all the journalists, reporters, writers and editors at the BBC, Sky, Guardian, Telegraph, The Sun, that are members of labour or the conservatives. When I was in university, I can tell you that I met these types. Journalists and politicians are the same breed, their path is -> born into wealth -> public school -> oxford/cambridge (or another russell-group uni) -> media or politics. That is where they fork, i.e. into media, or into politics. They are elitist, politically-correct hypocrites.

Nigel Farage aleady won the debate by default for me. Why? Because I don't trust Clegg, after he broke several major promises during the 2010 general election. How do we even know he is telling the truth now after that? Would rather take my chance with Farage, TBH.

the outright lies clegg spouted here lost him his seat

****Watching the news coverage of this debate on BBC made my blood boil. Their biased coverage against UKIP actually made Farage look bad and Clegg's debate look reasonable, amazingly. Most of the best points made by Farage were not given coverage. Please i urge everyone to share this on facebook and any other method possible so people can see the debate and then judge without media bigotry !

@bobdawkins7473

10 жыл бұрын

EXACTLY That unfortunately is the plan for the News... Clegg takes a battering in the LIVE debate... "we" all saw it :) They can't deny live TV, however not everyone watched it live... Everyone WAS probably watching the news, and so they cut out Nigels best bits and, made it look like Clegg actually did have something to say, by using the only parts where he opened his mouth. (Other than writhing in pain from Nigels amazing speech.) They will plant many loaded questions for the next round which will help Clegg out, because without that help... If this really was a fair debate for Nigel and Clegg.... Clegg would be on his knees begging for mercy.

@NoahXBloodyXNoah

10 жыл бұрын

Bob Dawkins The next debate is hosted by the BBC, so expect nobody in the audience that hasn't brought a translator with them.

@betwixtthelines1178

10 жыл бұрын

The bbc are a farce, their propaganda is becoming increasingly apparent to everybody bar the cast and viewers of TOWIE...

@skeptic9876

10 жыл бұрын

next debate the bbc will be shipping the audience in from Brussels. Just like their rigged question time audiences. It's amazing what happens when the bbc isn't involved. Fair audience and time to speak nigel crushed poor cleggers

People are forgetting about this debate. In my view this was the pivotal moment that led to the referendum. Nick Clegg is the examplar of a career politician, and I think in this debate, we the people saw through it

Nick 'question dodger' Clegg 0 Nigel 'gives zero fucks' farage 1

Well done Nigel u got urself a vote from me

Well done Nigel. Ukip all the way no bullshit just straight talk. Told Clegg that's for sure :)

This has aged just like the finest wine.

I was actually slightly disappointed by this, wasn't a very free flowing debate. The format was more political soundbite and that always favors rehearsed routines (as was displayed by Clegg) Having said that, Nigel definitely won, but in a less constrained format Nigel would have ripped him a new one. Will be voting UKIP in May.

@shedendpussys

10 жыл бұрын

Damien Ord No need for that, I'm just glad real political debate is back in British politics.

Nigel Farage is just speaking common sense, We wouldn't lose 3 million jobs, do you really think the EU would want to stop trade with it's largest Export market ?

protection? as clegg says in his opening post? The EU can't even protect the Ukraine. I'm only 13 minutes into watching this and i already hate cleggs weak arguments.

Farage wins this debate hands down.

Nigel you are one of the very few that speaks the truth. Thank you

Romania is ~21.3 million, Bulgaria ~7.3 million... is my maths wrong... isn't that 28.6 million people? Doesn't that round up to 29 million? I'm so sick of career politicians lining their own nests and lying to us, they're just after a job in the EU. God bless you Nigel.

Apparently Nick Clegg speaks 5 languages and as far as I can see, he doesn't make sense in any of them.

@teepriest

10 жыл бұрын

It's because whatever language he speaks he does it with a forked tongue. Complete wally. hopeless.

Im only 14 minutes in and I can already tell you that Clegg speaks just like most American politicians. Tells you shit HE thinks you want to hear instead of listening to what the people are really saying. See thru the bullshit rhetoric Brits and save yourselves. Same needs to happen in the U.S., if it's not too late already, which I fear it is.

@teambmmedia7919

10 жыл бұрын

Over confident lair are like Nick Clegg. He creat lies on top another lie. He is very good at that. He is clever but stupid clever and he thinks British general people are stupid.

@fatheremmons85

10 жыл бұрын

Hasibush Piyal "Big Government" politicians ALWAYS think the people are stupid. In their minds you are your own worst enemy and they must save you from yourself. It's ridiculous. Liberals feed off of ignorance, dependency, and distractions. If people would for once think for themselves, embrace common sense, and demand a limited government run by YOUR countries citizens, then you will know liberty.

@carlton7015

10 жыл бұрын

great stuff.

Common sense will always win out, Nigel wins.

@paulcox930

10 жыл бұрын

***** Says the Labour/Conservative/Liberal stooge, sweating at party HQ are we?

@paulthompson1222

10 жыл бұрын

Farage isn't common sense, he doesn't understand the EU bargain - you get the trade by participating in the politics. The EU will exclude us if we leave, as otherwise all the rest - the whole EEA and a large part of the EU will leave. the common market is the sweetener to the political union.

@davidnelson7149

10 жыл бұрын

Paul Thompson wot??? like china america, the BRICs' countries, are you havin' a larf numbskull?

Population of Romania 21.33 million (2012)+ Population of Bulgaria 7.305 million (2012)+ =28.605. Million Nige wasn't that far out Nick. LMAO

Nick Clegg sounds like a Cbeebies presenter, he should be showing us how to make sticky back plastic models rather than debating with Nigel Farage on national TV

Definition of "Clegg": a large annoying fly that sucks the blood of animals. www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/clegg

@dunholm1

10 жыл бұрын

jeno neotrip Think its only got one "g", but I can't argue about the "blood sucking parasite" similarities with the two-g version. :)

@poetryreincarnations

10 жыл бұрын

Sorry your definition is ever so slightly wrong ha ha my definition would be a self delusional Double Dutch (Oh yes He's half Dutch you know!" fantasist and pathological Liar.

Nigel totaly won! Vote for UKIP - for freedom and sovereignity, against centralized bureaucratic communistic empire! Greetings from Czech Republic!

@garyl2k

10 жыл бұрын

Welcome to the UK Lemone262! Ignore Frankie UK, his just angry Clegg got smashed and is now walking like John Wayne from the pounding he just got.

@Lemone262

10 жыл бұрын

Gary Levy I actually live in Czech Republic... Nevertheless I hope that UKIP will win in UK and make UK exit EU - first country leaving EU would be a sign for eurosceptics in whole Europe any maybe other countries will follow (Czech Republic and Spain for example)! That's why is it so important for UKIP to win - it is the biggest eurosceptic party in Europe. Politicians and media in Czech Republic keep telling us to be grateful, because Czech Republic is actually a net recipient in EU... But the money we recieve is squandered on inefficient subsidies (that distort market) and useless projects (that our goverment would do better) - keep your money, UK! We all would be better off with EFTA - an organization about voluntary cooperation of sovereing states and their free trade, not centralised goverment (not to mention undemocratic) that only gives orders and regulations such as EU!

The main parties won't listen to you, don't delude yourself. Most Brits asked for a referendum but our masters said no. For years people have said we have had too much immigration, but very little was done. They don't want to listen. This is our country, and people should vote to punish the major parties.

Clegg says there are not 29m people in Rumania and Bulgaria. Sorry, their combined pop is, guess what, 29m. Farage was NOT saying that 29m will come to the UK. He said they had the right. Get your facts Clegg!

@garyl2k

10 жыл бұрын

Exactly, funny that this is the only thing the other party's like to dwell on, I like that Clegg couldn't answer the fact that 400+ million had the right to come and go from the UK as they please.

@joel9240

10 жыл бұрын

Gary Levy The fact that there are 485 million people in the EU, who have the right to migrate within the EU as and when they please, is not a valid statement regarding the actual levels of immigration within the UK. First of all, this total includes the UK population. Second of all, not every single person in the EU wants to magically appear in the UK. If such a catastrophic consequence was actually likely, do you really think the government would be so concerned with remaining within the EU? The economic consequences would be disastrous. There are many other countries in the EU with stronger economies than the UK and with higher standards of living and higher human development. In addition, there are also the EEA countries, some of which also have higher levels of human development than the UK, yet you don't see British people lining up to migrate to them, despite having the right to do so.

@davidnelson7149

10 жыл бұрын

Joel Nichols get back to the classroom you programmed little student you!!

People who call UKIP a ‘racist party’ certainly fail to realise that UKIP is not against immigration and what they wanted to do is to have immigration controlled by withdrawing UK from the EU and as a Singaporean Chinese immigrant living in London, I agree with him on this point. I had a glance at UKIP’s immigration policies and then realised that their immigration policies are the same as the three main parties policies on NON-EU immigration. What UKIP wanted to do with immigration is to have a point based work permit system, immigrants pay for their own medical insurance before using the NHS, you won’t receive housing benefit after paying tax for five years; government need to ensure that the country is accepting more tax payers rather than welfare dependents etc. Those policies had already been applied to NON-EU migrants and UKIP simply wanted to apply same conditions to EU migrants. When my father moved to Britain from Singapore via an Investor visa in 1998, we need to pay for our own national health insurance and did not receive housing benefit after five years of tax paying (SAME CONDITIONS AS UKIP'S IMMIGRATION POLICY). Therefore, UKIP is NOT a racist party at all, and please don’t devalue the word ‘racist’. Racist meant that disrespect ing people purely based on their colour of their skin and that is NOT what UKIP is doing, since the party had no racial gender and forbids former BNP members from joining UKIP, all they wanted to achieve is to regain border control, law making powers to UK by pulling UK out of EU.

@AsherPiesman

10 жыл бұрын

Hey can I PM you about something? just wanted to ask you something but didn't want to ask here, it's nothing weird btw/

@15908150503able

10 жыл бұрын

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@15908150503able

10 жыл бұрын

fagAshLil1234 sure, as long as its not troll :)

Ukip had some great points. I will most likely be voting for them at the upcoming election.

Clegg said the EU make 7% of our laws that was a huge lie he is quite simply a man whose career was made in Europe. We can survive outside the EU with perfect trade agreements without the restrictive practice the EU impose upon the sale of our goods around the world.

@itz4kix

10 жыл бұрын

John M U say: "we can survive outside the U" - well yes: we probably can "surviver" but could we prosper in the way I presume U think we could?? Could we increase our trade with countries like India, Brazil etc: well they have their own socioeconomic problems which might render them unreliable trading partners. & China? Well China has more interest [as it has stated] in the European market so may well pull out their investment in the UK [if the UK pulls out of the EU] as the UK would loose it's access to the European market & subsequently the Chinese loose their access to sell their made-in-the-UK products in Europe. Or maybe U think the UK could be another Norway?? Well Norway still has lots of natural resources [North Sea gas/oil] & previously invested the proceeds from said resources abroad [to avoid inflationary problems that such resources bring] from which they derive a massive income. Moreover: the Norwegian socioeconomic model could NOT be more different to that which UKIP [libertarian/objectivist] have in mind & anyway: Norway is in the EU in all but name as it has signed up to most EU directives so as to access the European market. So where &/or how do U see the UK fitting in if we leave the EU??

@johnrmce

10 жыл бұрын

I assume politicians who have only ever been political researchers are the only people you believe in this matter the likes of Clegg and Cameron with no business acumen whatsoever, as it has not been a requirement given the job they do. We are Germanys biggest export market so should the German Government try to stop doing business with us their own economy would fail and guess what German business that creates wealth would not allow that despite what politicians tell you. You seem to also make the assumption that Governments make trade and sell our goods and services when its the competitiveness of them that make them attractive but always led by consumers who want to buy them. If you run a business you would know trade is trade and I can only sell you something if you want it and if its at the right price. We are perfectly capable of organisation good trade agreements with countries and in many cases the tariffs imposed by the EU could be abolished making us more competitive

@jamesdewitt84

10 жыл бұрын

the whole idea and argument of % of laws is stupid, how do you quantify an amount of law.

@raeearl530

10 жыл бұрын

Talking of a man whos career was made in Europe you should note that Nigel Farage is PAID by the EU!! Funny how he hates the "guy" paying him...

@johnrmce

10 жыл бұрын

Yes and unlike the other leaders he had a real job in the city of London and came into politics out of conviction unlike this useless shower of shit we have now Lab Lib Con. Directives and laws should be made by us for us so simple really and nothing wrong with that idea

Why do we need so many tiers of government, there is no need for us to pay 55million pounds a day for additional tier of government. We no longer operate under any consent and live in a more police state than ever, it's just nuts

well done Nigel for a truly profesional performance , Clegg was left to flounder in a sea of party politics and made a poor case for staying in the European Union. You spoke for the Nation keep up the good work.

My brilliant Indian colleagues (mathematicians and physicists) have to go over many hurdles to get entry to Britain and further difficulties after they have been here for two or three years. We need brilliance to keep us in the game with China. The EU cauterizes this kind of immigration.

simple. Farage represents the people, Clegg represents the Rothschilds

@WeAreChangeManchester

10 жыл бұрын

Second that with bells on mate

49:30 Nick Clegg "...Let's just leave the rhetoric aside for a minute..." That was a joke right?

Come on Nigel we need you. Lets save England! It is not to late. I admit that i am scared. Sometimes we British our at our best when we are scared. We still hold London. By a thread. Have a cup of tea. Stay strong and carry on.

@julianwhitbred7070

10 жыл бұрын

Save England by leaving the EU? Yes, immigration is a problem but there is no need to leave the EU over it. That would be the worst mistake anyone has ever made...

@dunholm1

10 жыл бұрын

Julian Hornby It's not just about immigration - though not being able to fully control the borders of your own country is a big issue. There are numerous reasons for leaving, the most important being, from my perspective, that we no longer govern ourselves, and if you do not have the right to totally chose those who govern then you are not living in a democracy.

@julianwhitbred7070

10 жыл бұрын

dunholm1 I partly agree with you however millions of jobs would be lost. No businesses would invest in the UK as we won't be with the EU. Our laws work there's no need to mess them about. The EU is what made our country what it is and we really shouldn't pull out.

@Kentuckymadness1

10 жыл бұрын

Julian Hornby I didn't say pull out. Nor does Nigel exactly. We need control of our Immigration issues.

@dunholm1

10 жыл бұрын

Julian Hornby With respect, the claim that millions of jobs would be lost is a deliberate lie put about by Clegg and others of the establishment in order to frighten people. The UK has a massive trade deficit with the EU running at many £billions, and we are the EU's largest market. In short, they need us far more than we need them, trade will continue more-or-less as before, and so jobs will not be lost. We'll also be able to make our own free trade agreements with the rest of the world, something we are forbidden from doing now, and so more jobs would be created. The EU's share of world GDP is in free-fall. It was 30% in 1980, is at 20% now, and is projected to fall to 15% in another decade. Meanwhile, other regions are booming, regions we'd finally be free to trade with on terms more suited to our interests once we are cut loose from EU restrictions and regulations. We have nothing to lose and a great deal to gain from leaving this failing, Soviet-style, Utopian wet-dream of the left. Please, don't be fooled by the lies put out by the pro-EU political elite. Those self-serving bastards have their own agenda, so question everything they say and go look up the facts for yourself. You will be surprised at how much the EU now controls so many aspects of our lives. And did we vote for this? No. And will they let us? No.

Mr Clegg , i think your house of commons library needs updating . Your facts and figures are ludicrous ! Wake up Britain and lets look after our own laws again .

Nigel Farage won hands down...he stuck up for what he truly thought, unlike Nick who just continued to say what he thinks will win him votes.

Nigel Farage is pure gold. VOTE UKIP.

Farage won it hands down!

Farage didn't let his fuse blow unlike Clegg, which is testament to his character. Vote Ukip for a PM with a conscience, and a party with common sense

I've just remembered..... isn't the Lisbon Treaty self ratifying meaning that it can change without a vote from the people? If so then Mr Clegg has once again lied about giving us a choice if there are any 'treaty changes'!

Why do Switzerland & Norway, both small countries, have less unemployment and the strongest economies in Europe although they are not part of the EU?

@FourTwenty901

10 жыл бұрын

***** Nice seeing some sense, here. Seems the UKIP drones have invaded.

@peterj5902

10 жыл бұрын

***** The same reason France Italy, Germany and the UK were among the top 10 of richest countries, before they were in the EU... They are all first world economies combined with a relatively large population. He's not talking about national wealth, but the wealth per person. China is "richer" than us, but the Chinese are not exactly rich in comparison to us, are they? Per person; Norway (4th) and Switzerland (7th) are far richer than the UK (21st).

@joel9240

10 жыл бұрын

Ok let me clarify: First of all, neither of those countries have a particularly large economy compared to EU member states. Second of all, Norway, whilst not a member of the EU, is a member of the European Economic Area. Essentially what this means is that they pay EU membership dues and follow EU laws, but essentially get an opt out on laws they do not like. They still subscribe to the same freedom of movement for goods and people. That is, for those wonderful EU haters who dislike the EU simply because you aren't too big on immigration, countries in the EEA (such as Norway and Iceland) still have to maintain relatively open borders with the rest of the EU.

@joel9240

10 жыл бұрын

Peter J Do you have any actual evidence to back up the claim that France, Germany and the UK were magically wealthier (assuming you're referring to GDP per capita) prior to joining the EU? Seeing as how the UK for example joined what was to later become the EU in the 1970s I highly doubt that you'd be able to gather any meaningful data regarding this.

@paulthompson1222

10 жыл бұрын

you're missing the point. Switzerland and Norway - are not in the EU but they are actually comply with more EU laws than most EU countries. Norway is the most compliant to EU laws of any country in the world!

Time to get out of the EU, and have some sensible Trading, UK will be much better of. Well done Nigel

Funny how Clegg avoided the scandal question but Farage actually answered it, along with a a few other questions. I agree, Clegg is a cardboard cut-out.

Well looking at the many polls, Nigel won hands down which is good for someone who has never taken part in any live television debate before. Clegg just seemed to skip questions and can someone tell me how many glasses of water did Nick drink?