Shabbat Shalom brothers and sisters from Johannesburg South Africa.

@celenelomeli1818

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shabbat shalom brother! from Texas USA

@eugenefoster9293

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Shabbat Shalom from Wilropark Roodepoort

@erhardtheart3792

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Shabbat shalom from Cape Town, prys YHWH!

@margaritamena5573

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Happy Shabbat to all from Colorado USA

@aliciavandersijde8933

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Shabbat Shalom, Pretoria South Africa 🇿🇦

Yes truly blessed by these teachings my brother, you and 119 team are doing an amazing Work in Yeshua! thank you very much my brother.

Shalom all this reminds me of a parable that goes like this: There once was a man who had a farm and in the farm he had some chickens and ducks. Now they needed to be feed and he told his son, "Son, go feed the chickens and the ducks!" to which the son replies that he will. Time goes by and the son goes to feed the chickens and the ducks but the ducks had left and only the chickens where around so he left without feeding them. Then the father came and checked to see if his son did as he was told and saw that the animals had not been fed. So he asked the son, "Son, why did you not feed the chickens and the ducks?" The son replied, "Because there was no ducks so I didn't feed them." The father answered and said, "But son, you should have feed the chickens even though the ducks where not around." The moral of the story is do what can not what you can't. Yahweh bless and Shabbat Shalom!

Watching on the sabbath, thank you for always studying to ask questions and show yourself approved. ❤love listening to it

👍👍👍🏼 Without any words. Thanks to God Allmighty in the name of Jesus Christ for this teaching. 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

Shabbat Shalom all! Thank you for this teaching 119.. May the Lord continue to bless all of you who work in order to give us these edifying videos! 💜 Shalom

Thanks 119 Ministry Another day of understanding the Law May His grace be upon you Shalom Shabbat shalom from India ❤️

@truthnottradition7

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Wow India. Are there any Torah Observant churches in your area?

Thank you for another great presentation.

I love 119 Ministries. Thank you again for your beautiful teachings and all the effort you put in. May our Heavenly Abba bless you in all you do, to His glory.

Thank you David for another great insightful teaching. May YHVH continue to use you and the ministry for teaching truth.

Great material. Thanks.

Always a blessing. Thank you.

Thank you for the encouragement!

Very well stated and presented.

this was a fantastic teaching! Thank you so much brothers!

Great teaching,these questions come up alot for me with other believers.

Good stuff, I pray GOD will bless your ministry mightily!

Shabbat Shalom!! HalleluYAH!!!

Between you and Michael Roods ministry I feel full of the word of the Almighty

Correct, coherent, concise.

Shabbat Shalom Brother 🙏 Our Brothers and Sisters, in Christianity: Eyes they have and see not and Ears they have and hear not, unless the LORD GOD 🙏 gives them Spiritual Eyes and Spiritual Ears to perceive and hear,; They will not understand... Hear an example: Psa 119:44-48 HNV 44 So I will obey your Torah continually, forever and ever. 45 I will walk in [ [ liberty,. ] for I have sought your precepts. 46 I will also speak of your statutes before kings, and will not be disappointed. 47 I will delight myself in your commandments, because I love them. 48 I reach out my hands for your commandments, which I love. I will meditate on your statutes. Great Teaching, Praise OUR LORD GOD 🙏, in Yahoshua Name Amein...

Thanks for your explanation

Well said.

That depends... ALL when trusting in the law for salvation / justification. Chipping away at different ones with the goal to obey as many as possible is a delightful way to MATURE / be sanctified. (To be applied only to myself as a mirror... no micromanaging someone else's walk allowed!)]

@lakeworthmonster

Жыл бұрын

That’s a good thought. I’ve had to refocus my telling of how Yah has worked to thump my head to love Him (yeah , that may not sound right, but it is how He got me to test everything I was taught) as a “looking in the mirror” only way to proceed

In today's society how do I stay out of jail? By not breaking any of the criminal laws in my country. I may not have murdered anyone, assaulted anyone, raped anyone, robbed any banks, but if I drive after having drunk too much alcohol, I still end up in jail for having broken only one law. But after having served my sentence, I am released from jail. And by not having broken any other laws, I have still gained, by minimizing my time in jail. But violating God's laws is different as the penalty for the violation of even one law is "death". It becomes all or nothing. A death penalty requires a death. One cannot work off a death penalty by serving time in jail or by doing good deeds, as a death is still required. That is where the one time sacrifice of Jesus comes in. He took our place in our death penalty so we do not have to die the second death (future event) ourselves. The question then becomes, "How do we qualify for His gift?" Many people contend that all we need to do is utter a few words and we are saved regardless of how we live the remainder of our lives. But if we read scripture fully, it is way more complicated. 1 John 2:1-4 gives us a good start in understanding what we must do, as does the interpretation of the word "Repent."

@mik3ymomo

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Not even all Laws of God require death. Theft doesn’t, fornication doesn’t. As a matter of fact you prob gain a wife if you get caught fornicating.

@user-uu2rf8ev7z

Жыл бұрын

@@mik3ymomo and that is where it gets complicated. People living in a distant culture where they have no opportunity to know God and obey the first four commandments, may still qualify for eternal life provided they abide by the six "Love thy neighbour" commandments which they can obey by nature.

@mik3ymomo

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@@user-uu2rf8ev7z was it Paul who said that where there is no law there is no sin? Romans 4:15 Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression.

@iggreene9512

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@@mik3ymomo For all who have sinned without the Law will also perish without the Law, and all who have sinned under the Law will be judged by the Law; for it is not the hearers of the Law who are just before God, but the doers of the Law will be justified. For when Gentiles who do not have the Law do instinctively the things of the Law, these, not having the Law, are a law to themselves, in that they show the work of the Law written in their hearts, their conscience bearing witness and their thoughts alternately accusing or else defending them, on the day when, according to my gospel, God will judge the secrets of men through Christ Jesus. Romans 2:12‭-‬16 NASB1995

@mik3ymomo

Жыл бұрын

@@iggreene9512 doesn’t it say for the gentiles to learn the law of Moses every sabbath? None are absolved from the law as it is obedience. Acts 15:21.

Shabbat shalom from new Zealand 🇳🇿

Shabbat shalom brethren

It's funny how churchillers say oh we need this out of the law of Moses it's the law of God and then it comes to something else oh we don't need that law of Moses

@getx1265

Жыл бұрын

Nice out of Ten Commandments are ok with most Christians.

@theeternalsbeliever1779

Жыл бұрын

@@getx1265 Even then, most professing Christians actually live by a lot fewer than 9 of them in practice.

I agree with McMillan. His source is the Bible.

Meditate the Holy bible deeply

Hello 😊. A request: When you all are putting up the scripture reference can you please use larger font and utilize the whole screen?? Thank you, and thank you for your videos.

Please provide the links to the referenced videos in the comments section.

Great Work brethren. Although I do have one question. When I read most of the 613 laws I notice that most of them require specific bloodline conditions,(Levi, Judah and all that, but most specific the Levite bloodline which is heavily emphasized) since most Christians are gentiles( myself included). How do we go about those one?

@deenam2428

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Many do not require bloodline. Ex 12:49 and many others, even into the millennial Ezekiel 47:21-23. This is consistent with Galatians 3:27-28. We (Gentiles) are grafted into Israel. And this video covers the Deuteronomy passage that no matter where Israel is scattered, God expects us to repent and follow the law.

@robertschmidt9296

Жыл бұрын

People who choose to obey His commandments are grafted into the olive tree which is symbolic of Israel. In the case of Romans 11:16-24, it is Spiritual Israel. Though we may not have the bloodlines of any of the twelve tribes, keeping His commandments makes us grafted into the olive tree which makes us spiritual Israelites.

@merlinmbuso8448

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@@deenam2428 Thanks, really appreciate it.

@merlinmbuso8448

Жыл бұрын

@@robertschmidt9296 Thanks, really appreciate it.

Did James say "but fails in one point" or did he say "but rejects one point"?

9:53 Agreed with everything in this video, but a little concerned at this point where he sounds like we "should" be making burnt offerings, but because of political considerations, cannot. I hope he did not mean that, as any type of animal sacrifice after the cross is blasphemy to the precious blood of Jesus.

Would you offer burnt offerings if the temple was rebuilt?

I loved this video. I have been told that you and another youtuber (unlearn the lies) are part of the 'hebrew roots movement' and 'warned' me about it, yet, she is a messianic jew. Everything you teach seems good to me and I can't figure out what she was trying to warn me about concerning it. I think I saw a part of another video you did where you stated that you don't refer to yourself as part of the HRM but I don't know in what regard; why you claim that you aren't. Can you help?

@truthnottradition7

Жыл бұрын

I'm not 100% sure about David but I'm in accord w/what I've heard him say. My only critisism of him is that he looks to and quotes to many "scholars" as a (mild) appeal to authority. "Hebrew roots movement" is like saying "Baptist" IMO. It really comes down to the actual beliefs and acceptance of how to walk it out. Some are "liberal" and others are "conservative" about Torah. The most succinct way I can state this... I am a gentile who believes in the "God" of the Bible. Through faith, grace, and the blood of Yeshua I am able to be grafted into Israel and get the blessings of the covenants made with them.

How about the Sabbath? And Tithing? And the different Jewish Festival like Passover?

If I can not not lie, and I can not not steal, and I can not not commit adultery because I can not keep all the commandments perfectly. I hope my family, my neighbors, and especially my wife have a LOT of grace and understand that because I can not keep all the commandments - if I break some that are unloving towards you personally I am covered by grace.... plus I am not Jewish.

@sneediusrexius

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We can keep the commandments: 1 john 5:2-3 2By this we know that we love the children of God: when we love God and keep His commandments. 3For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome,

@paulwiederhold7629

Жыл бұрын

@@sneediusrexius Sneedius, I am pretty sure was being sarcastic back then. I Am trying to illustrate to all those who say you can't keep the Commands how absurd. Your spouse is pretty sure you can keep the adultery command if you want. Your neighbor is sure and hopeful that you will not steel. Your boss and family knows you can tell the truth (not lie) if you desire to, and many other commands we can keep.

@sneediusrexius

Жыл бұрын

@@paulwiederhold7629 Ah, I see! It lifts my heart to see that you know the truth in a sea of lies and ignorance in the body of Christ! I'm glad to count you as a brother. Please be careful though with irony and sarcasm, people who dont know better could end up being misled, a better approach is to speak truthful and be sincere in our speech. Its best to be earnest when communicating with people. I'm not sure if using irony could be considered lying in God's eyes. Anyway, God bless you.

@paulwiederhold7629

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@@sneediusrexius Thanks. I didn't think of that. I hope YHWH doesn't count it as lying against me. I just feel that sometimes people get so wrapped up in their wrong beliefs (lies) that to break the absurdity you have to be more absurd or sarcastic. In hopes of at least cracking the scales over their eyes.

James absolutly is making a contrast between Torah and the keeping of YHWH's commandments and the "law of liberty" which is directly connected to faith in a man and his works. This law of liberty is a new concept that the new testament utiliizes to separate new testament believers from those who kept Torah as if this new faith was somehow superior to what YHWH had already set in place as the way, the truth and life. To say or teach otherwise deminishes the words of our Creator. It is YHWH's law that brings liberty and freedom to those who diligently keep it and obey it with all of their heart, mind and soul. Sound familiar? Psa_119:45 And I will walk at liberty: for I seek thy precepts.

How can Paul accuse Peter of going astray when he separates himself from the uncircumcised believers and use the fact that Peter is living like a Gentile to prove that he was in error for doing so if he was keeping the law? Galatians 2 :14 But when I saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel, I said unto Peter before them all, If thou, being a Jew, livest after the manner of Gentiles, and not as do the Jews, why compellest thou the Gentiles to live as do the Jews?

How about you explain this For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth. -- Romans 10:4 KJV Holy Bible Are we still under the moses law??

What about circumcision? Can you help with this? Also, Christ taught his disciples that the law is summarized the entire law in two commandment. Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets. (Matt. 22:37-40.). Just honestly seeking.

@batteries671

Жыл бұрын

So loving the Lord our God with all our heart, soul, mind, and strength is the greatest commandment, and loving our neighbor as ourself is the second, and they do summarize the rest of the law. If you read the rest of the law, it gives you the specifics on how to do exactly that, God explains in detail through the word of God

@robmancuso964

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The 215th commandment (of the 613 commandments) is that Jews are commanded to perform circumcision. The source of this commandment is G‑d's statement1 (exalted be He) to Abraham, "You must circumcise every male." Galatians Chapter 5: ''Mark my words! I, Paul, tell you that if you let yourselves be circumcised, Christ will be of no value to you at all.'' ''3 Again I declare to every man who lets himself be circumcised that he is obligated to obey the whole law.'' ''4 You who are trying to be justified by law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace.'' Romans 7:6, KJV: "But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter."

@JaxCover

Жыл бұрын

Romans 13 tells us that love to our neighbor is basically commandments 5-10. So, love to God must be commandments 1-4. Deduction. And yes, God has given us grace power and the Holy Spirit's guidance to help us keep them ALL.

It appears to me that the law that was being spoken of that was to be kept as all or nothing was the oral law and halackah

@ICU2B4UDO

Жыл бұрын

As a Jew, No such thing as the Oral Law and Halacha were both created by the Rabbi's to fend off the belief of Bblical Christianity...

@simonskinner1450

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The law referred to in James is the law of Abraham and the Israelite, and now is the law of Christ. It is not the Mosaic Law.

How is the Torah the law of liberty when Paul calls it a curse and bondage? Galatians 3:13, 5:1

@robertschmidt9296

Жыл бұрын

Galatians 3:13, the curse of the law is death for breaking the law. 5:1, I'm not sure what this one has to do with your question. I have to read deeper into context.

@thelionofjudah77u82

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@@robertschmidt9296 The law itself was a curse and death was the result for not following the law. Galatians 3:13 explains Galatians 5:1 Paul says that we have liberty thru Jesus as opposed to the bondage of the law.

@batteries671

Жыл бұрын

Galatians isn't teaching against the bible, God forbid, Galatians is teaching against the false teachings of the pharisees that told people to do all sorts of things that were not in the bible, these pharisees also taught religious conversion by ritual rather than relationship with God. Paul was calling out their heresy, rightly so.

@thelionofjudah77u82

Жыл бұрын

@@batteries671 What are you talking about? Tell me exactly did these pharisees instruct people to do that was not in the Bible. Scripture please.

@batteries671

Жыл бұрын

@@thelionofjudah77u82 In general pharisees said that people had to wash their hands before eating, the bible never says this, Jesus called them out for this. The pharisees also said that you can't pick and eat grain on the sabbath which also isn't in the bible, and Jesus called them out. They were making up rules and honoring the traditions of their elders over the very word of God. specifically in Galatians though we are dealing with a specific group, 'the circumcision party' this group taught that you couldn't eat with gentiles if you were part of the family of God, they also taught salvation by circumcision which is heresy that teaches against what the bible teaches, and adds to the bible which is forbidden. look up "works of the law" in the dead sea scroll MMT. "works of the law" is a phrase that refers to the circumcision party and their practices. Imagine a christian denomination today preaching salvation by baptism, and that you couldn't eat or associate with non Christians. That is what this group was. The problem was never the true word of God, the problem was these heretical legalists the circumcision party

The Law of Christ is in contrast to the "Law of Sin and Death." The "Law of Christ" is based on better promises, according to Hebrews, and was fulfilled by Christ, because He was born into the law and was the only person to ever keep the righteous requirements of it. Once Christ died, we are no longer "under the Law of Moses" but are still required to keep the "Law of Christ," but this law is written on hearts, not stone tablets. Two different laws are being conflated in the video.

@JaxCover

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What's the law of Christ, and can we keep it perfectly?

@ScottRachelson777

Жыл бұрын

@@JaxCover The Law of Christ is virtually contained in the Old Law, that is the Old Testament, as a seed but only brought to perfection by Jesus Christ who perfectly fulfilled it. The ends of the Old and New are one and the same, being subjection to God's order, but they are different in that the New Law makes attaining the end possible. How? By being written on the hearts of believers so that they do not have to refer to a written set of prescribed rules. The Law of Christ is the summation, the prototype, and the foundation upon which all of the Old was dependent: "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind." This is the great first commandment. And a second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. On these two commandments depend all the Law and the Prophets." "Can we follow the Law of Christ perfectly," you ask. Only in and through Christ can we follow it perfectly. Whereas if the old law was not kept even at one point, the penalty was death, because transgression of God's law demands it. The Law of Christ can only be kept perfectly by proxy, by abiding in Christ, and as such our righteousness is an imputed righteousness and so there is no condemnation for those who abide in Christ. Falling short in this way, as long as repentance follows and the repentant turn from their sin, does not lead to death because the ultimate penalty was made in Christ; On the other hand, violating the written ordinances of the Old law brought death and not even the blood of bulls and goats could ever take those sins away. A continual sacrifice had to be made, but in Christ, one and final sacrifice took away the sins of men and brought eternal life. That which is a foreshadowing cannot be superior to the substance which is Christ. We are made perfect through Christ's sacrifice. The same cannot be said of the Law of Moses. This is ultimate, perfected obedience that as Christ obeyed and did not sin, we who abide in Him are also sinless. It's not we who are perfect but Christ in us that righteousness and blamelessness are imputed. so, yes, the Law of Christ can be perfectly followed because its requirement is of a different nature than the Old Law.

The law cannot save you only faith in christ death burial and resurrection can he paid the price and full.

@deenam2428

Жыл бұрын

You are mistaken. This teaching does not teach justification by the law.

@robertschmidt9296

Жыл бұрын

You are partly right. But if you ignore the law, you have no grace. Read Matthew 5:17-19, 7:21-23, and 7:13-14 very carefully and without any interpretation whatsoever. These are Yahshua's words. Since He is the way, the truth, and the life, and no one comes to the Father except through Him, shouldn't we believe Him above what anyone else said or what we think they said?

@batteries671

Жыл бұрын

of course, who said that it does? 119 ministries teaches that you are saved by faith, and then you keep torah out of love for God. Don't get it twisted backwards

The irony of gentile Judaizers😢

The idea that the Law was given only to the Jews irks me. It's just such a ridiculous notion. The Law was given to the Jews first, yes, but the Jews were the vehicle through which the Law was disseminated to the nations. Plus, as the books of Leviticus, Deuteronomy, and Exodus all mention, any Gentile who attached himself/herself to the Israelite tribes was obligated to obey the Law. Since we as Christians have been grafted into the Abrahamic olive tree, the onus is on us to try to keep the Law. That's how we're supposed to distinguish ourselves from the heathens we live among.

Matthew 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden(with sins) and I will GIVE you REST... (from sins). Matthew 7:23 AND THEN will I profess unto them, I NEVER knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity(sins). Matt 11:28 come to me heavy laden with sins to tell you in Matt 7:23 that I NEVER knew you because of sins. &You know that you cannot change I NEVER KNEW YOU in I DON’T KNOW YOU ANYMORE… NEVER in Matt 7:23 is NEVER also in Matt 11:28 and is NEVER also in 1John 2:1. And so is clearly that Matt 11:28 was NEVER addressed to YOU. And you will NEVER find any DOCTOR in theology being able to help you to understand both verses. But until now EVERYONE is sure that he is going to heaven and NOBODY is interested to know WHAT can put the DIVINE Jesus in impossibly to KNOW even those who are the greatest working in Jesus’s NAME(Matt 7:22).

It is also true that proselytes also had to follow and obey the Law of Moses. Yes. Not following the Law of Moses is not a matter of overthrowing it. That is a false charge. How can one overthrow what does not apply to him? It's also a flawed argument that this leads to the moral aspects of the Law not applying to us today. I am not saying that either. What I am saying is that the Law Yah wrote into our hearts is what existed before the Law of Moses, is contained in the Law of Moses, and continues on to this very day as what is written on our hearts apart from, or irrespective of, the Law of Moses. The Law of Moses itself had its aim and content that was aimed at a specific people. Yah's moral absolutes are the foundation upon which the laws, commandments and statutes mentioned in Genesis 26 BEFORE the Law of Moses, the Law of Moses itself, and the Law Yah writes in our hearts...they ALL rest upon that foundation, and picking up the Law of Moses and expecting it to stick to those to whom it was not intended, that's just plain dishonest. This speaker failed to demonstrate how drawing from the Law of Moses is NOT an all or nothing deal, because the curse was attached to ALL of that covenant, but just parts of it that people today think themselves authorized to carve up and divide into whatever portions they so choose.

@notinfluencedbywindsofshif8120

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You said How can one overthrow what does not apply to him? You also quoted: The Law of Moses itself had its aim and content that was aimed at a specific people. But in the NT doctrine; Paul said your Grafted into the family: 18 do not boast against the branches (Israel). But if you do boast, remember that you do not support the root, but the root supports you. 19 You will say then, “Branches (Israel) were broken off that I might be grafted in.” 20 Well said. Because of unbelief they were broken off, and you stand by faith. Do not be haughty, but fear. 21 For if God did not spare the natural branches (Israel), He may not spare you either. Romans 11:18-19. Paul was clear if your grafted in, it does apply to you, otherwise you're not grafted in the Family period! So, is Paul theology of being grafted into Israel's family, a part of being dishonest that your describing?

@musicinspire1745

Жыл бұрын

@@notinfluencedbywindsofshif8120 Grafted into Abraham, yes. In care you forgot, He lived long before the Law of Moses was ever written.

@notinfluencedbywindsofshif8120

Жыл бұрын

@@musicinspire1745 Even if Abraham lived long before the time God told Moses what to write, Abraham was also well aware of the same instructions from God given to Moses. Apocalypse of Abraham is not well known among the average Christians. Genesis 26:5 because Abraham obeyed My voice and kept My charge, My commandments, My statutes, and My laws.”

@musicinspire1745

Жыл бұрын

@@notinfluencedbywindsofshif8120 You are equally bereft of any evidence for what you are claiming. So, here we are, both without any knowledge of the content of what laws, statutes and commandments were in force during Abraham's life.

@notinfluencedbywindsofshif8120

Жыл бұрын

@@musicinspire1745 Really... Malachi 3:6 & Hebrews 13:8 clearly shows the evidence... Abraham knew what laws the Creator always had in heaven that was shared also to Moses... Matthew 12:50.... Then Jesus answered and said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of Himself, but what He sees the Father do; for whatever He does, the Son also does in like manner. John 5:19... SAME LAWS JESUS ALSO KNEW... I can of Myself do nothing. As I hear, I judge; and My judgment is righteous, because I do not seek My own will but the will of the Father who sent Me. John 5:30

lets ignore the rest of the bible so we can say keeping the aw of moses is relevant

@J4JESUSMINISTRY

Ай бұрын

He is not saying to keep the law of moses but to be obedient to God. Jesus said if ye love me keep my commandments. 1. Love the Lord thy God. 2. Love your neighbour as yourself.

It's granted that there are flawed reasonings on the side of the belief that there is no requirement for the observance of such things as the Sabbath and dietary laws. For example: Exodus 31:12-14 12 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, 13 Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it [is] a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that [ye] may know that I [am] the LORD that doth sanctify you. 14 Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it [is] holy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death: for whosoever doeth [any] work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people. The language clearly portrays that the Sabbath observance was a requirement spoken directly to the children of Israel. Traying to take that and paint it as broad brush strokes over the Church is not a proper handling of the clear language that addresses the scope of the requirement, and to whom that scope is directed. Anyone is free to observe the Sabbath as they so wish, but it is not a command unto the Church that would bring about Yah's judgement upon those who don't observe it who are not of the children of Israel, nor living in that time. What I question is the authority being exercised by the Torahist people who seem to think they have been empowered by Yah to carve up the Law of Moses, and determine for themselves what portions are relevant for today, and what are not. It is written that the Law of Christ is to bear one another's burdens. Adding to the word of Yah is a dangerous act that the false teacher should beware.

@notinfluencedbywindsofshif8120

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Your quote: The language clearly portrays that the Sabbath observance was a requirement spoken directly to the children of Israel... to whom that scope is directed. 17 And if some of the branches (Israel) were broken off, and you, being a wild olive tree, were grafted in among (Israel) them, and with them became a partaker of the root and fatness of the olive tree, Romans 11:17 NT doctrine... Yummm sounds like according to Paul that being grafted means your now part of the family of Israel!

@musicinspire1745

Жыл бұрын

@@notinfluencedbywindsofshif8120 What I did not elaborate upon in all that is that Yah's moral absolutes are the very foundation that upholds Genesis 26, and Law of Moses, and that which Yah has written upon out hearts. It is from that Foundation that all of the moral absolutes are derived. The Law of Moses was only one of three outflows from that Foundation of Moral Absolutes that are the very bedrock and footing upon which the other three stand. So, to say that we are not bound to the Law of Moses does not mean that we are not bound to the Foundation of Moral absolutes from which the Law of Moses originated. That system was flawed because it could not provide the redemption that only came from the Body and Blood of Yahshua. Making the keeping of the Law of Moses a moral obligation is nothing short of claiming that salvation is Christ + Law, and that is a false Gospel, and we all know what the scripture has to say about that....

@notinfluencedbywindsofshif8120

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@@musicinspire1745 Genesis 26:5 because Abraham obeyed My voice and kept My charge, My commandments, My statutes, and My laws.”, God gave the same laws to both Abraham and Moses, that’s why verse 26:5 says Abraham obeyed my voice... just like Moses obeyed Gods voice... both were told the same things by the voice of God.

@musicinspire1745

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@@notinfluencedbywindsofshif8120 Proof please.

@notinfluencedbywindsofshif8120

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@@musicinspire1745 Malachi 3:6 & Hebrews 13:8 clearly shows the evidence... Abraham knew what laws the Creator always had in heaven that was shared also to Moses... Matthew 12:50.... Then Jesus answered and said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of Himself, but what He sees the Father do; for whatever He does, the Son also does in like manner. John 5:19... SAME LAWS JESUS ALSO KNEW... I can of Myself do nothing. As I hear, I judge; and My judgment is righteous, because I do not seek My own will but the will of the Father who sent Me. John 5:30

Jesus broke the law which is why the Jews had him killed. He worked on the sabbath, didn't wash his hands before eating, touched lepers and did not follow the cleansing laws after he did, ate with sinners, elevated women in his circle, the list goes on. How do you square this up? Honestly seeking.

@nickmansfield1

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He was killed in the heart of their powerbase, being Jerusalem, for disrupting proceedings leading up to Pesach (John 2:13-22 and the corresponding Synoptic sources).

@dancingzolins6782

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Jesus healed on the Sabbath, several times. Also, He pointed out distinctions between God's commands and the teachings of men. He did not break God’s commands, though. Eventually, things reached a point where the leaders of the Jews, not the common folk, were envious of Jesus's teachings, miracles, and growing popularity. They believed he might even lead a rebellion against their Roman oppressors which would spell disaster. See John 11:45-53

When I read the entire chapter of galtions, collosians, and 2 Corinthians I get an completely different view layed out by Paul to the gentiles. And in all his letters he spoke against every sin, fornication, stealing, bearing false witness, murder, adultery and idolatry but not one single lament to the GENTILES to whom he was teaching, not a single admonishing about the sabbath or sabbaths. This needs to be explained together with all the text that Paul wrote about not keeping special days and not judging others for not keeping them and not letting someone judge for not. When I read these books he seems to be saying just the opposite of sabbath and Sunday keepers.

@robertschmidt9296

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Where did Paul say to not judging or letting someone judge them? If you're referring to colossians 2:16-17, those who he was writing to lived far outside of Israel and in pagan territory, a territory that did not grow up in the knowledge of the Torah. The pagans were judging them. Paul was encouraging them to keep the Father's commandments even though the pagans were judging them.

@statutesofthelord

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Jerry, please look at Colossians 2 closely. You will find the phrase "any man" or "no man" 4 times. It is very clear that 3 of those times refer to an unbeliever. So in verse 16, it makes best sense to understand it to refer to an unbeliever too, making it mean that we Christians shouldn't be concerned about what unbelievers think of us for keeping God's holy days.

@batteries671

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have you watched 119 ministries video series called the Pauline Paradox? they answer these questions

It's almost impressive how much false teaching can be jammed into one video.

@JeffSmith-it4tm

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Thats because you have a false spirit in you

No one could keep the Torah perfect? That is a blasphemy. John the baptizer's parents did. And what about Job? Would they dare accuse him of sinning? Luke 1:5 There was in the days of Herod, the king of Judaea, a certain priest named Zacharias, of the course of Abia: and his wife was of the daughters of Aaron, and her name was Elisabeth. 6 And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless. Are Christians "The House of Jacob"? Luke 1:33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end. Ephesians 2:12 That at that time ye were without Messiah, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: The reason I ask is there is a phrase, almost identical to His length of reign that applies to the House of Jacob. Exodus 31:13 Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the Lord that doth sanctify you. 14 Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death: for whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people. 15 Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the Lord: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death. 16 Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant. 17 It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed. "Jacob for ever" "shall be no end" "for a perpetual covenant." " It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever" Did He lie? Was He wrong? Oh that's Old Testament? First off the Messiah said it Himself that not a word would change until *_ALL_* is finished. If you have been deceived into thinking "it is finished" is what He is talking about, He has yet to defeat death, resurrect, and ascend to heaven. And has He come back with a flaming sword looking for pork eaters yet? So not *_ALL_* has been finished. Because it says that to know Him, or know if anyone else does.... 1 John 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. 4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him. 6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked. Which commandments? NEXT PAGE. 1 John 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the Torah*: for sin is the transgression of the Torah*. 5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin. 6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him. 7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. 8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. * Torah does not mean "law". It is a translation error. Torah in Hebrew means " *_THE INSTRUCTIONS_* . What if you continue to violate the Torah? No grace. Hebrews 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, 27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. 28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: 29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? 30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. 31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. Pray about it. Proverbs 28: He that turneth away his ear from hearing the Torah, even his prayer shall be abomination. A "Christian" is someone who follows a "christ". What will you do they day the Holy Spirit shows you the word christ comes from a Greek word, khristos, that used to be used for Hades, Zeus, and could tecnically be used for satan, which makes it ironic to call him the anti-christ, as he is someone who fits the definition of a christ. There many christs. It is a common title meaning "anointed one". So, Matthew, Mark, Luke and both John's. I used to say Peter, Paul and Mary, but her name is Myriam, not Mary. They were all anointed ones. Does "Christianity", (Judaism and Islam also) obey or violate Deuteronomy 4:2? Does any of the three pass the Deuteronomy 13 test? No. Only the House of Jacob, the real one. Not the one built by Judah on the kingdom of Judah's land which calls itself Israel, to deceive. (Matthew 23:36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation. 37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! 38 *Behold* , *your house is left unto you desolate* .) (Divorce? Take two sticks and make one, Israel?) Do you celebrate easter? Ezekiel 8. Weeping for Tammuz. The birth of Tammuz , since Babylon, has been celebrated on winter solstice. The true Messiah was born Tishri 2, 3759. Late summer. (sept 11th 3 B.C.) Today is Odin's day in Babylon. Tomorrow Thors day, and thenext, Frigga day. Odin and Frigga had a daughter name Hel. She is the god over hell*. Mars, jupiter and saturn don't exist, outside of pagansim. Their creator calls them wandering stars and does not name them. In fact the only thing He names is the Sabbath day of rest, which Catholic/Christianity spits on. What was the Catholic priest Martin Luther *protesting* ;) It wasn't sun-day worship doctrine or the fact they replaced Passover with easter a pagan fertility rite. *There is no doubt a bottomless pit, it just isn't named after the daughter of Odin. In most places it exist in your Bible, it should read "in the grave." Not in hell, in *the grave* . Matthew 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in -hell- *the grave* . As I read it, Judgement Day, flat on our faces, every knee shall bow, and those that are _saved_ will be _born again of spirit_ , a future event, or suffer the second death and have their name removed from the _Book of Life_ , and be destroyed. Noice Matthew 10 says, "destroy". To make to, no longer exist. No more pain and suffering. Remember?

@samanthashirley206

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Thank you, wonderful compilation of scriptures here!

If you're going to teach people to follow the commandments, first you must know what the commandments are. We are no longer under the old testament commandments, Paul wrote and taught this all throughout the new testament. Paul called the laws of Moses a curse and bondage. Our commandments in the New Testament are simply to believe in Jesus and to love one another 1 John 3:22-24.

@shirosanada3302

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If the law is curse and bondage then the Psalms contradict that message and are therefore false writings. Psalm 119 for instance, calls God's Torah a delight, a treasure more valuable than riches, and a safe path that guards against stumbling. How can that which is a curse simultaneously be a delight? What is a delightful curse? Psalm 19 celebrates God's Torah as well. How can a curse be worthy of celebration? If you want to know the purpose of the Law, Deuteronomy 6:20-25 is a good place to start. Deuteronomy 11:26-28 is very clear: keeping his commandments is obedience and breaking it is a curse. In that way, this is the curse of the law. Break it, and you are cursed. Keep it, and you are blessed. And while we are at it, I was wondering if you could explain to me why we will be observing the feast of tabernacles in the kingdom to come if it's part of that "nasty" law that will curse us (Zecheriah 14)?

@thelionofjudah77u82

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@@shirosanada3302 The Torah was written inthe old testament, of course they'll say how great the law is, but this is before the New testament and Jesus was introduced. Just a few years ago many might say that cds and dvds were amazing but now in present time everything is streamed online instead.

@shirosanada3302

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@@thelionofjudah77u82 But therefore what they said is not eternal and therefore not God breathed and therefore it is not profitable for doctrine or reproof. The problem with that statement is false according to Paul. Paul said that ALL scripture is God-breathed and profitable for doctrine. Yet according to you it is not. how can something be both profitable and not. AND: if the Psalmist is saying those words because it was at that time, then why are they in the scripture if God was surely going to do away with them? The second problem with what you are saying is that God said that he would do nothing without informing the prophets first (Amos 3:7). Why would he inspire David to say the Torah is delightful only to turn around and not only say that it is not, but it is a CURSE and thoroughly rebuke his people for not realizing what he JUST revealed to them? Is there ANY scripture that you can give me that would tell you that God would make his Torah become a curse and that he'd do away with it?

@batteries671

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there is no old testament or new testament, simply 1 cohesive word of God. There is a new covenant though, check it out: Jeremiah 31:31-34 “Behold, days are coming,” declares the Lord, “when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah, not like the covenant which I made with their fathers on the day I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, although I was a husband to them,” declares the Lord. “For this is the covenant which I will make with the house of Israel after those days,” declares the Lord: “I will put My law within them and write it on their heart; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. They will not teach again, each one his neighbor and each one his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for they will all know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them,” declares the Lord, “for I will forgive their wrongdoing, and their sin I will no longer remember.” he says it's not going to be like the old covenant, how will it be different? it will be different because it will be a change of the heard that God does in us through the death and resurrection of His son and the dwelling of His spirit within us. That said, notice, what happens in the new covenant, He puts his law on our hearts.

@thelionofjudah77u82

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@@batteries671 No old or new testament? I'm not even going to bother entertaining this one. Believe as you wish

Are you honest when you said that you want us to test this teaching of yours, as in you're open to correction if the scriptures clearly show this teaching is false? I'm a little shocked this video was even made considering we have the new testament at our fingertips with books like galatians, romans, colossians, and hebrews which all clearly define the change of covenant and the difference between the two. What first must be understood is the weakness and unprofitableness of the first covenant in the law of Moses which was written and engraved in stone which the apostle Paul affirmed to be the ministry of condemnation and death. No flesh is justified in the law of Moses for by the law of Moses is the knowledge of sin and under it the whole world becomes guilty before God. No man could fulfill the righteous requirements of the law therefore it was given as a tutor to bring men to faith in God's salvation promised and foretold in His Son. The law was weak and had no power to deliver from sin but was actually given to testify against man who otherwise thought their ways were right in their own eyes. The law caused the sin nature to be aroused which is why it is said the strength of sin is the law. The is why see not only did Moses recieve the two tables of the testimony on mt Sinai but he also recieved the instructions for the tabernacle and the priesthood for the atonement of sins and transgressions which were inevitably going to be committed against the law that was being given. The tabernacle and priesthood was the prophetic answer of faith and hope for those who were now being made manifest as sinners by the light of the law. This is why God did not just give the law but with the law prophets who ministered the testimony of Jesus Christ who would deliver them once and for all from their sin by mediating the new and better covenant. The new covenant is one of power, to a rebirth of the spirit where the sin nature that was made manifest by the law of Moses is replaced with the divine nature of God and the righteous requirements, that is to say the moral obligations, of the law of Moses can now be fulfilled by us who walk in the spirit and not in the flesh. Jesus Himself is the body that was making the shadow of the holy days and the tabernacle and the priesthood which He has fulfilled. In the new covenant we fulfill not the shadows but the morality of the law, for if there is no sin there is no need for a sacrifice for sin. To love the Lord God and love one's neighbor as himself is more than all the whole burnt offerings and sacrifices. Do you see that love is the fulfillment of the law and love is the divine nature of God our Father that we recieve of Him when we are born of Him through the power of Christ's resurrection into the new covenant. This is the law of liberty that James speaks of, it is the law of love which if you walk in the spirit you are walking in love and you will never be convicted by the ten commandments as a transgesser. There is no law against love. Love does not have to be told not to harm its neighbor because love does no harm to its neighbor. God is love and He gave the ten commandments to sinners commanding them not to do what the sin nature wants to do. This was to reveal to them that they were sinners because apart from the ministry of condemnation they did not know. But in this new covenant, as He is so are we in this world just as Jesus said, you shall be perfect just as your Father in heaven is perfect. We are cleansed from our sin by His one and only sacrifice of Himself and much more than that we are born again with the divine nature of God to walk free from sin forever by the light of His life. If the Son makes you free you shall be free indeed. And you, being dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He has made alive together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses, having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross. Having disarmed principalities and powers, He made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them in it. So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, which were a shadow of things to come, but the body is of Christ. Let no one cheat you of your reward, taking delight in false humility and worship of angels, intruding into those things which he has not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind, and not holding fast to the Head, from whom all the body, nourished and knit together by joints and ligaments, grows with the increase that is from God. Therefore, if you died with Christ from the basic principles of the world, why, as though living in the world, do you subject yourselves to regulations- “Do not touch, do not taste, do not handle,” which all concern things which perish with the using-according to the commandments and doctrines of men? These things indeed have an appearance of wisdom in self-imposed religion, false humility, and neglect of the body, but are of no value against the indulgence of the flesh.

@batteries671

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I thought it was a great teaching, have you not watched their Pauline Paradox series? 119 loves all the scriptures including Galatians, Romans, Colossians, and Hebrews. Paul wasn't teaching against the bible, Paul was teaching against errant jewish sects in the first century

@philologus

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@@batteries671 there is no paradox, either you are a new creation or an old. Old creations are under the old covenant, new creations are in the new covenant. You cannot be in the shadow and the body of Christ at the same time, you cannot be of the works of the law and the spirit of grace at the same time nor can you walk in the flesh and the spirit at the same time. Trying to mix the two undermines the triumph of Christ and will cut the legs off believers. Why would Paul so passionately rebuke Peter to his face in front of everybody for something as trivial as eating kosher? Because it was destructive to the faith and the church.

@batteries671

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@@philologus I agree there is no paradox, and so does 119 ministries, they fully endorse the works of Paul. you saying so suggests that you have not watched / read their teaching. are you familiar with the passage that tells us about the new covenant? Jeremiah 31:31-34 31 “Behold, days are coming,” declares the Lord, “when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah, 32 not like the covenant which I made with their fathers on the day I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, although I was a husband to them,” declares the Lord. 33 “For this is the covenant which I will make with the house of Israel after those days,” declares the Lord: “I will put My law within them and write it on their heart; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. 34 They will not teach again, each one his neighbor and each one his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for they will all know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them,” declares the Lord, “for I will forgive their wrongdoing, and their sin I will no longer remember.” it says that the new covenant will write the law on your heart. you need to do more studying on what the term "works of the law" means in 1st century literature, as it is clear that you think it means the mosaic law of God, but if you study "works of the law" in MMT found in the dead sea scrolls you will discover that this phrase was referring to the traditions of men, which Christ rebuked, but Christ reaffirmed the importance of the law of God. embracing the beauty of the power of the word and instructions of God hardly undermines the triumph of Christ, quite the opposite, it underlines the true wonder and power and grace of Christ. It doesn't cut off the legs of believers, but rather breathes life into them. It opens your eyes to who God is, it's wonderful. Paul didn't rebuke Peter for eating kosher, he rebuked Peter for breaking fellowship with his gentile brothers in Christ. God's law never taught us to separate ourselves between Jews and Gentiles, the separating wall in the Temple was part of God's design. Galatians 2 says: "11 But when Cephas came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because he stood condemned. 12 For prior to the coming of some men from James, he used to eat with the Gentiles; but when they came, he began to withdraw and separate himself, fearing those from the circumcision. " Paul didn't rebuke Peter for eating clean (kosher), he rebuked him for being a hypocrite and fearing the self righteous pharisees who insisted that gentiles and Jews be separate according to their traditions, which were contrary to the very word of God

@philologus

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@@batteries671 I did not watch that video, I watched this one and commented on this one because they are trying to merge covenants and it is heresy and it is destructive. Obviously when I did kosher I meant eating with Jews only. I don't have to read anything other than the Bible. God writing His law in our heart and mind is not the ten commandments, it is His divine nature which is love. Love is the fulfillment of the law which if you read my original comment you would see I already explained thoroughly how this video is wrong.

@philologus

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@@batteries671 Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled again with a yoke of bondage. Indeed I, Paul, say to you that if you become circumcised, Christ will profit you nothing. And I testify again to every man who becomes circumcised that he is a debtor to keep the whole law. You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace. For we through the Spirit eagerly wait for the hope of righteousness by faith. For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision avails anything, but faith working through love.

evidently people don't like the New testament it says you fall from grace. that means you don't have the Holy Spirit. that means you're not covered under the blood of Jesus Christ. I thought I was running into people that didn't care about the Old testament. but evidently there's groups of people that are both ways. you're not under the law once you are led by the Holy Spirit that's in the book of Galatians. the law being written on the heart has nothing to do with having to keep the law. and you people need to quit calling the commandments laws there's laws statutes and commandments. and the doer of the word cannot prove that has anything to do with the Torah. a doer of the word is someone that does what the Bible tells them to do. if it tells you not to hang around sinners because you can backslide hanging around sinners that you don't hang around sinners. you don't have to hang around a sinner to be a sinner. and at the end of the day the commandments are summed up in two commandments love God and love people. your salvation is not riding on going to church on Saturday because it's the Sabbath. because I know none of you have ever been convicted about the Sabbath.

@batteries671

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explain how the law being written on the heart has nothing to do with having to keep the law, that's exactly what it means in plain reading of the text. What did Christ mean when he said not a iota not a dot of the law will pass away until heaven and earth pass away? Why did Christ say that someone who teaches others to disregard the least of the commandments will be least in the kingdom? Why would He say that?

I am Torah Observant but I have some issues with your video. God has Commandments, Statues and Laws. You kept saying “Commandments” when you were in fact talking about Laws. You need to be very careful when you try to use a Commandment verse to support your argument about Law. This casts doubt on your entire attempt to say that God’s Laws are still in effect and will cause confusion in new believers.

@robertschmidt9296

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I'm not a new believer but I am new to Torah. In my thinking, keeping His laws are a commandment. To me it's the same thing.

@lindanwfirefighter4973

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@@robertschmidt9296 It is not the same thing. God’s Word tells us they are not the same thing! Therefore, they are not the same thing.

@robertschmidt9296

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@@lindanwfirefighter4973 where does it say that?

@robertschmidt9296

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@@lindanwfirefighter4973 I have a comment in my notifications but it's not here. The first part was about the priesthood laws being void. I'm aware of that. Then all I see is do not.

@lindanwfirefighter4973

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@@robertschmidt9296 I amended my statement and while what I said is true I will not debate it here! However, I will ask you this are there any remaining Levites to engage in that part of the Law? Are sacrifices necessary for the forgiveness of sin! Do not do what so many new Torah Observers do! They fall into the trappings of the Pharisees! Read the Book of Acts VERY carefully.

Wish you would take off your cap when teaching your religion. 1Corinthians 11 should be followed in the same fashion as the entire bible. Pay honor to God.

The Old Testament was not the only place that God's commandments could be found. The Apostles were taught, in the flesh, by God Himself, in the flesh. They experienced the fullness of God's revelation to humanity in the Person of Christ Jesus.

Oops! Wrong law. This is not the law of Moses, but the law of Abraham. I have a series of Ytube videos 'Myths in so-called Christianity', and James refers to the law of Abraham.

Let's not confuse the laws of ordinances written by Moses with the decalog

Please do not listen to this man none will be justified by the law, but only by grace through faith. Christ did not do away with the law but he fulfilled the law on our behalf. You cannot fulfill the law Therefore no one will be declared righteous in God’s sight by the works of the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of our sin.Romans 3:20

@DavidWilberBlog

Жыл бұрын

You misunderstood, my friend. This teaching does not state that anyone is justified by the law. Christians believe we should obey God because we love him. We keep God’s commandments BECAUSE we’re saved, not TO BE saved. Hope that helps!

@deenam2428

Жыл бұрын

You are mistaken. This teaching does not teach justification by the law.

@robertschmidt9296

Жыл бұрын

If read it carefully about Yahshua not doing away with the law OR THE PROPHETS, but He came to fulfill it, He clearly says that nothing even the slightest will change till all is fulfilled. We're still on the same earth so that clearly means that the law hasn't changed. Neither has all the words of the prophets have yet come to pass, so that also means that the law hasn't changed. The law that He fulfilled was the law for Him to transfer the priesthood the levites to Himself. Therefore, in doing so, we have a way to escape the curse of the law which is the punishment of death for breaking the law. Of course none of us can fulfill that law. We are saved by grace through faith but if we don't obey the law, we have no grace. 1 John 3:4 defines sin as breaking the law. So if the law ceases to exist, there's no law to break therefore no sin. So why is sin still an issue if it no longer exists?

@batteries671

Жыл бұрын

he never said anything about being justified by the law? do you believe in salvation by works? because 119 ministries does not

I DISAGREE WITH YOU THAT WE CAN NOT STOP SINNING-- your take on 1 JOHN 1:8. Paul is clear that we are NOT debtors to the flesh, and that if we don't mortify the deeds of the flesh, then we WILL DIE. Yes, we all "have sin" on our record, and all have sinned. But the bible no where says that we will or must CONTINUE to sin. We are liars and the truth is not in us if we KEEP sinning. We do "stumble in many ways" but what's the solution? Romans 8: Following the Holy Spirit. That's why you have so many seemingly conflicting scriptures here. You've accepted the lie of Satan that we can not overcome sin in the flesh.

@scottandchels6813

10 ай бұрын

How's the 'not sinning' going? Paul also said this Rom 7:25 TS2009 Thanks to Elohim, through יהושע Messiah our Master! So then, with the mind I myself truly serve the Torah of Elohim, but with the flesh the torah of sin.

@JaxCover

10 ай бұрын

@@scottandchels6813 That's the UNCONVERTED man. The next chapter is the CONVERTED MAN, the man with no condemnation who walks as CHRIST does. Please read chapter 8. Verses 12-13 are clear that we are NOT debtors to the flesh. So how can you justify saying that we are??? If we continue to live after the flesh, we will DIE, so we are told to KILL the deeds of the flesh. I'm pretty sure that means ALL of them, since our eternal LIFE is on the line. Tell me, how much sin will God tolerate? Adam and Eve ate an APPLE, and you see what happened!

@scottandchels6813

10 ай бұрын

@@JaxCover are you saying that Paul was unconverted? He wrote chapter 7 about himself. To get to chapter 8:12-13 you have to read 1-12. But you can't start in ch8 you have to start in ch7, (it is a letter). Rom 7:23-25 KJV 23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members. 24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? (Matt5:29-30)25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin. (here are the two kinds of people we can be). Rom 8:1-4 KJV 1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. 2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. 3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: 4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. If we live in the spirit we will keep the law of God. If we live in the flesh we will die.

@JaxCover

10 ай бұрын

@@scottandchels6813 Paul is writing about the Christian EXPERIENCE. He might have also been writing about a particular sin that he was struggling with at the time, idk, but the point is that he doesn't stop at ch 7. He provided the SOLUTION in ch 8. Overcome by the SPIRIT. Be led by the Spirit. It's right there in Romans 8:4 that you quoted, the righteousness of the law is FULFILLED in us, not just when we "believe but still struggle" but when we WALK AFTER THE SPIRIT. Did you read the last two sentences that you just wrote??? You're proving MY point!!! If you walk after the Spirit then you WILL KEEP THE LAW!!

@JaxCover

10 ай бұрын

@@scottandchels6813 The problem is that we don't slow down and let the Spirit LEAD us. We are NOT dead to self and pride, WE want to lead. Per ch 6, WE are supposed to be DEAD, not LEADING OURSELVES. The reality for most Christians is this: Although we are CONVICTED, we are not CONVERTED ( CHANGED). The Holy Spirit is THERE, that "still small voice saying, this is the way, walk ye in it"..But we want to still LEAD ourselves, go by our own impulses, anger, pride, lust, etc. Then we say, "Oh God knows I'm human and can't overcome this sin." Why not? Where does the weakness lay? With God, you? Satan is stronger than God? The problem is US. We refuse to surrender to the LEADING of the Holy Spirit. TRY THIS: The next time you are tempted to sin just STOP. 1) Listen to what the Holy Spirit tells you to do in that moment. Remember, HE is the leader, not YOU. 2) OBEY it without hesitation, despite how you FEEL. God promised to provide us with the power to obey. 3) VIOLA-- you will find that you just overcame that sin!! REPEAT DAILY

Why doesn't the reality of the old covenant and the New covenant enter into this discussion?

Please stop this false teaching, in no shape or form did Paul teach following the Torah plus faith. I believe what Paul did say is that we are saved by grace thru faith and not of works. This channel is promoting it a works based doctrine teaching that salvation must be earned when it is a free gift of God. You mention Romans 3:31, but did you miss out on Romans 3:28? Paul clearly says that we are justified by faith(Belief) in Jesus WITHOUT THE DEEDS OF THE LAW...

@shirosanada3302

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, but then Paul goes on to say do we make our faith avoid through the law? certainly not. we establish it. A saved person will desire to walk in righteousness. If keeping the law means you are trying to be justified by it then therefore Abraham was not saved according to you. Acts 21 quite clearly says that the accusations of Paul not keeping the law are false.

@thelionofjudah77u82

Жыл бұрын

@@shirosanada3302 Why am I saying Abraham was not saved? Abraham believed in God and it was counted for righteousness. So should I ignore Romans 3:28 saying we are now justified without the deeds of the law?

@shirosanada3302

Жыл бұрын

@@thelionofjudah77u82 By your logic, keeping the law means you are trying to be justified by the law, and therefore you are not saved. Abraham must not be saved by your logic, because he kept it. Here is a picture of what you are saying: keeping the law=working for salvation. Abraham kept the law. Therefore: Abraham keeping the law=Abraham working for salvation=Abraham is unsaved. Am I wrong? Explain to me why keeping the law means you are working for salvation. Yes, we are saved by faith. Jesus did the saving work. Should we then make sure to disobey his commandments as much as we possibly can so that grace may abound? Certainly not. Paul says idolaters, liars, sorcerers, etc. won't inherit the kingdom of God. Is Paul WORKING for his salvation? I don't think so. So clearly we are expected to be obedient to God. Didn't God COMMAND us to set aside the 7th day? Observe his feast days? Also, you still have not answered Zecheriah 14:16 so I will ask you again. Take 2: Is Jesus asking us to curse ourselves when we celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles in the kingdom to come? Is Jesus cursing himself? Why are we going to celebrate a curse in the kingdom to come? According to you it is a curse. You also have not answered Acts 21: The Jewish believers claimed that Paul KEPT THE LAW and did not instruct believers to deviate from it. But according to you Paul called the law a curse and we needed to depart from it. How can Paul be both cursed and saved at the same time?

@thelionofjudah77u82

Жыл бұрын

@@shirosanada3302 If Paul was a keeper of the law, why did he call it a curse? I didn't call it a curse, the writer of the New testament called it a curse(galatians 3:10,3:13) If Paul was a keeper of the law why did he say no man can be justified by the law? If Paul was a keeper of the law why was he constantly beaten and jailed by the Jews? We are not under the commandments of the laws of Moses, we are under the new testament. Our commandments are to follow Jesus and to love one another ( 1 John 3:22-24 ) Acts 21? Paul is teaching the Gentiles away from the law of Moses. Please explain Romans 3:28

@shirosanada3302

Жыл бұрын

@@thelionofjudah77u82 First of all you continue to dance away from DIRECT questions. So I will post them at the front for you to answer once again. Zecheriah 14:16 Is Jesus asking us to curse ourselves when we celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles in the kingdom to come? Is Jesus cursing himself? Why are we going to celebrate a curse in the kingdom to come? According to you it is a curse. In other words, Jesus is telling us to curse ourselves at his second coming. Acts 21: The Jewish believers claimed that Paul KEPT THE LAW OF MOSES and did not instruct believers to deviate from it. But according to you Paul called the law a curse and we needed to depart from it. How can Paul both keep the curse and tell people to depart from it? You've just ignored these and just stuck your hands in your ears and have spammed other bible verses. All you are doing is proving that you haven't the slightest clue what you are saying and are doing ANYTHING to try and ignore the problems with what you are saying, ignoring the contradictions it may pose. It says the curse OF the law. It does not say the law IS a curse. For instance, when you say the "plagues of God" you are talking about a plague that came FROM God. God is not a plague. You need to prove why in this instance saying "the curse of the law" means that the law IS a curse. There are SEVERAL curses mentioned in the Torah and Prophets...but they ALL are references to breaking God's Torah. In essence, what Paul is saying is that you were freed from the penalty of the law. Secondly, as I already stated before (but you WILLFULLY ignored and did whatever you could to ignore what I was saying), your view of Paul makes Paul a false prophet. Why? Because the view that you claim of Paul makes him contradict EVERYTHING written about the Torah by both the Torah AND the Prophets. Let me repost what I said again so that you can brush up on what the prophets said about the Torah. Psalm 119 for instance, calls God's Torah a delight, a treasure more valuable than riches, and a safe path that guards against stumbling. How can that which is a curse simultaneously be a delight? What is a delightful curse? Psalm 19 celebrates God's Torah as well. How can a curse be worthy of celebration? I would beg to differ. First off, 1 corinthians 9:21 says that Paul was subject to the Law of God and not free from it. Luke 2:22-23 clearly shows that the Law of Moses and the Law of God are the same. Therefore, by transitivity, Paul was subject to the Law of Moses. "Follow Jesus". And what did Jesus do? Eat pork? Desecrate his Father's holy day? No he kept those things. He also said to love God. And how do we love God? We keep his torah. Explain to me how keeping the law means I am denying that salvation is by faith. Abraham kept the law and was saved by faith. Why is it that Abraham can keep the law and be saved? Explain that to me. If Romans 3:28 means that even KEEPING the commandments is a denial of faith then you have said that Abraham and Moses are damned and in hell. EXPLAIN IT TO ME. If Romans 3:28 means that you will keep no commandment from God because keeping it means you are denying faith then by your reasoning Moses, Abraham, Elijah, and ALL of the prophets are in hell. Why is it that THEY can be saved by faith and keep the commandments but no one else? Do not tap dance, answer this DIRECTLY. And explain Romans 3:31 to me. Because what you are advocating for means that your faith DOES make void the law.

The law of God is not the law of Moses. The perfect law was given to Abraham, and Deuteronomy 30 explains the preference of faith to the law of Moses.

@DavidWilberBlog

Жыл бұрын

The “Law of God” is directly equated with the “Law of Moses” numerous times in the OT, NT, and even Josephus’s writings. The idea that they are separate concepts is a false distinction developed by dispensationalists in modern times.

@simonskinner1450

Жыл бұрын

@@DavidWilberBlog No the 10 commandments came from God, but the law of God was kept before Moses. It is not dispensational to say the law of Abraham was God's law. It is probably dispensational to put the commands given to Moses above the faith of Abraham. Read Deuteronomy 30 for the choice given to them.

@pasoknatayo

Жыл бұрын

Hi @Simon Skinner, are you referring to the Abrahamic Covenant by any chance?

@simonskinner1450

Жыл бұрын

@@pasoknatayo The covenant and law of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. The religion of the 12 tribes. I have a series of Ytube videos on 'Myths in so-called Christianity' and 2 of them are specifically on the Jews.

@truthnottradition7

Жыл бұрын

@@simonskinner1450 I will in part agree with you. The 10 commandments written in stone by Yah's own finger (twice) are pre-existing Mt Sinai and post-existing the cross. They are basic laws of Yah that all of mankind will have to answer to. AND the covenants w/Israel were built on them as a basis. Not as laws specific to only the covenant itself. (I'd done a decent study on that subject)

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