This SUV is like the real life version of a vehicle out of Grand Theft Auto.

@hackd6959

3 жыл бұрын

Rancher from GTA San Andreas

@steelisthemeal

3 жыл бұрын

Very generic

@bradford_shaun_murray

3 жыл бұрын

4:59 the dreaded Interceptor!

@MrHondablink

3 жыл бұрын

Looks like an over sized Yugo with leather seats and a boost gauge. Especially from the back.

@andrewb325

3 жыл бұрын

Even the name sounds like GTA

Finally, Doug shows me a car I've actually never heard of

@davidgouyaie8027

3 жыл бұрын

Yep same here.

@charlessong3870

3 жыл бұрын

Ur gay

@jdcaprani

3 жыл бұрын

Same

@ollijokinen1571

3 жыл бұрын

@@charlessong3870 You big gay.

@charlessong3870

2 жыл бұрын

@@ollijokinen1571 ur lesbian gay

Lol I can imagine the salesman back then “every button you see in here, straight out of a Ferrari”

Doug: Today, you will see Laforzas with Ferrari badging- Me: No Doug, we don’t see Laforzas.

Doug makes every car feel like a superhero for 30 minutes.

@llccaaa

3 жыл бұрын

Weird crossover

@straightbusta2609

3 жыл бұрын

Chocolate rain Man

@Ca18detEnjoyer

3 жыл бұрын

This is a pleasant surprise

@BenWeinerRVA

3 жыл бұрын

I hope you’re doing well

@kenan_allaham

3 жыл бұрын

29 minutes and 40 seconds*

I just took Doug’s advice and headed on over to carsandbids and bought this laforza. It still smells like Doug.

@kristijandimovski410

3 жыл бұрын

@Heinous Anus username checks out

@implodingbaby

3 жыл бұрын

You can take dougs dna off a surface and clone him

@WakanaGojoAE86

3 жыл бұрын

The wheels look luxurious tho

@mitto4504

3 жыл бұрын

It still has that new Doug smell

@neuideals588

3 жыл бұрын

If Doug so much as farts In a car, it goes up in value 🤣

It looks like a giant 80's Fiat Panda from the outside. Never knew this one existed, and I thought I knew a thing or two about obscure cars. Learn something new every day :o

12 yards long, two lanes wide. 65 tonnes of a̶m̶e̶r̶i̶c̶a̶n̶ italian pride. Is this a Canyonero?

@anthonyfalzon2100

2 жыл бұрын

Unexplained fires are a matter for the courts Canyonero

@lupodelupis3672

2 жыл бұрын

I'm italian and you've made me laugh cause the comparison is perfect 😂😂😂😂 "Hyah! Canyonerooo Whoaah Canyoneroooo!! Whoha" 😆😆😆😆

@aidantanny7230

2 жыл бұрын

My friends said that about my Suburban lmao, they said "4 yards wide and seats 35"

@MrBrno

2 жыл бұрын

Cannoniere*

@mattk252

Жыл бұрын

My man

In Italy someone refers to this as “the giant Fiat Uno”

@Woody_RC

3 жыл бұрын

My first car was a white 4 door Fiat Uno. This was the first thing a thought

@m.h.5400

3 жыл бұрын

Directly thought that it looks like a Fiat Uno on steroids

@adamajluni7781

3 жыл бұрын

So a fiat due

@oskarikosola7676

3 жыл бұрын

Came here for this comment :D

@lorenzovigni1391

3 жыл бұрын

Ci credi che io non l'avevo mai sentita nominare???

This looks like a Grand theft auto version of something in the real world. 😂🥳

@tristanajohnson

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly what I thought!

@kodayoku7383

3 жыл бұрын

It kinda looks like the GTA SA Landstalker without the wood trim lol

@brianandrewmccarthy4725

3 жыл бұрын

@@kodayoku7383 uulluu7ul7lllllllllu by

@quintessentialbachelor395

3 жыл бұрын

That's what I was thinking

@olofdaisler9121

3 жыл бұрын

You're incompetent

I have share my LaForza story. I used to live near the plant they converted these to US spec. This was done by Cars & Concepts in the Detroit area. When they stopped importing them in the late 90’s the plant just stopped. Parked out back were 20 to 30 of them waiting for conversion or to be sold. They sat there at least 10 years. Then one day they were gone and the building became a statuary store. Ironically it had a lot of Italian looking statues.

@MacGregor.

11 ай бұрын

Some went to Sid at smart auto whitmore Lk.

If this vehicle were in a movie, it would be called “Something Borrowed.”

“If you’ve ever wanted a La Forza…” Like, who knew there even was a La Forza, let alone ‘always wanted’ one? That being said, I want one now.

@Karmy.

3 жыл бұрын

I knew about it but forgot it existed

@ThatCarGuy2

3 жыл бұрын

They should add it into Forza

@jeremyfiester6243

3 жыл бұрын

I remember seeing these in DuPont registry when I was a tot. Surprised its actually pretty "nice." The few that have sold on BAT brought some interesting discussions and unlikely praise.

@yankymate2314

3 жыл бұрын

me

@ThePiquedPigeon

3 жыл бұрын

Agree. The buff design and splendid leather-and-wood-veneer interiors totally sold me.

Doug: this car is a failure Doug: Hey this car is for sale.

@MrHootie249

3 жыл бұрын

Guy has had many negative reviews of cars his website auctioned. Kudos Doug.

@hakim91

3 жыл бұрын

The is certainly a failure but it is probably rare.

@theanticrust42

3 жыл бұрын

When it comes to collecting, failures can add value. Think of things like misprint coins or merchandise with spelling errors. The failures usually get thrown away or not many are made to begin with, so they have a perk for someone who wants something unique. Just think with this car. You show up to pick up your enthusiast friend. He's like "What kind of Cherokee is this?" but bam, its some crazy Italian thing with a Ford engine. Kinda neat.

@sushi777300

3 жыл бұрын

Bad sellers are the rare exotic cars people want many years later

Fun fact...in early 1990's in Brighton Michigan my buddy's dad worked in a shop with these. It was the first time I'd ever hear of these or seen them until now. I'm unclear of what this small factory/shop was doing with these vehicles but there were new engines everywhere.

@MacGregor.

11 ай бұрын

Yep car's and concept's

Wow, I used to work with a guy in San Diego that drove one of these to work fairly regularly. Looked just like this one, same color.

Like a Fiat Uno on steroids.

@Szarus123

3 жыл бұрын

Uszanowanko xD

@Spherz

3 жыл бұрын

Fiat Dos

@heitorantonini1641

3 жыл бұрын

Not uno... Fiat Elba. Lol

@victorfortunato

3 жыл бұрын

@@heitorantonini1641 yes It looks like a Elba, or Duna weekend, headlight and taillights are the sale, handbrake, interior lights, etc etc

@fortheloveofnoise9298

3 жыл бұрын

More like a Jeep Cherokee and YUGO had a baby.

This is basically a Vice City Landstalker.

@AristoCat221

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I was like: I've seen that car!

Just came across your review Doug. We were the San Diego Dealer for Laforza at Brian’s Classic Auto on Miramar rd. They were unique for their time. Brought Escondido California without a drivetrain where the were fitted with the Ford 5 liter V-8 Our service department went through the Units as there were many electrical glitches, and other issues so we stopped selling them. We were the classic car dealership with a full Diner in the showroom

The row of colorful indicator lights on the gauge cluster reminds me of what a typical IVECO truck would have had by that time. So maybe it's not just the chassis. ;-)

@enterBJ40

2 жыл бұрын

As a former of two IVECO trucks owner I agree.

*Laforza Owner:* "But officer, the radar detector comes with the Laforza from the factory. It's not aftermarket." *Police officer:* "Sir, this isn't Forza. This isn't a game. Please step out of the vehicle."

@samdajellybeenie14

3 жыл бұрын

“But officer” “GET ON THE GROUND NOW”

@OhPhuckYou

3 жыл бұрын

Radar detectors are only illegal in two states, otherwise they wouldn't give a shit.

@IvanKhryapov

3 жыл бұрын

@@samdajellybeenie14 So anyway, the police officer started blasting

@Kerogas_

3 жыл бұрын

@@IvanKhryapov менты жизни не дают

@DreadGaze

3 жыл бұрын

You can se in google images that it is aftermarket, including the autometer gauges

Somebody shrunk Doug, and he's just standing next to normal Fiat Uno

@Sergiovsousa

2 жыл бұрын

And like a normal Fiat Uno it will be always breaking, except if will cost 100 times more to fix...

@stevenr2463

2 жыл бұрын

LOL!!!!

@darklight6013

2 жыл бұрын

@@Sergiovsousa never seen a Fiat Uno breaking in my Life... They are low Key Immortal and pretty famous for this.

@justsam100

2 жыл бұрын

@@darklight6013 yeah Fiat Uno and Fiat Panda are literally the italian equivalent of the Toyota Hilux.

@prabie

Жыл бұрын

@@darklight6013 Meu Amigo, Fiat UNO was horrible and suffer lots of different problem, specially electric. Parabems do Chile

The taillights are custom but based on the original design from the Citroen BX. My theory is that Citroen most certainly had DOT-compliant designs on hand as they were certifying the BX for sale in the US at the time, perhaps LaForza was able to reuse their assembly with minor changes. Headlights are straight from the Audi 4000 but the turn signals are also custom.

@jennydonne8946

2 жыл бұрын

Tail lights are fiat uno mk1

@aleksblackburn9406

2 жыл бұрын

Kinda look like they're from an early 90's Rover 400

@GavinByrneLand

Жыл бұрын

Fiat Uno mk1 taillights, no modifications

@kleemann2068

Жыл бұрын

You are absolutely right the first LaForza Magnum variant had headlights from an Audi 80 B2 (Audi 4000 US market) and rear lights from a Citroen BX. The second variant had the headlights from the Iveco TurboDaily 1990. It should be noted that there were two variants of the rear lights. The first variant had the upper row divided into yellow and white. And I already mentioned the second variant from BX.

Dear Dug, I was born in Torino and raised there in the 80s and I remember very well this vehiche on the road every day for the few peple who could afford it. This was a suv made in Italy (high costs) called Magnum with manual transmission and big petrol engine. It was called the Italian Hummer, again assembled integrally in Italy using 80-90% of pieces from Fiat standard cars. It was the suv used by Italian police nationwide during years. The project was intentionally taken a Fiat Uno 1983 model (car of the year 1984) with fire 1.0 ltr petrol engine, made a lot bigger. Design by Pininfarina of course, again from Grugliasco (Torino). Probably an early experiment on sharing costs across production platforms. The most interesting aspect of all is that the Magnum was assembled in country (not workable today) and using a petrol engine (never done before on such big vehicles in Italy for mass market - LM001/LM002 for niche market). A vehicle who certainly had its heydays (over 10 years production) and appreciated by private owners and police forces. Magum was impressive. La Forza (The Power) together with automatic transmission was the passport for entering the american market. Unfortunately the product was inappropriate for the north american market because out of standards and for the competitors at the time.

@kasparsgrinbergs6001

8 ай бұрын

laforza was the exclusive car manufacturer... the direct competitor was the Lamborghini LM002. mercedes, landrover, etc., they were ordinary cars for ordinary people. in the suv world, the only suvs that made sense in Europe were Laforza and Lamborghini. The USA pioneered SUVs, beautiful, powerful cars, but no exotic brands.

@markyamaguchi9571

6 ай бұрын

Why doesn't he said pininfarina design it has the pininfarina badge 🧐

@kasparsgrinbergs6001

6 ай бұрын

@@markyamaguchi9571 because it's a pininfarina design...a sports suv

@markyamaguchi9571

6 ай бұрын

@@kasparsgrinbergs6001 I don't understand what you mean? I wish Doug would have mentioned that this laforza SUV was design by the same company who design Ferraris. ( Pininfarina )

@kasparsgrinbergs6001

6 ай бұрын

@@markyamaguchi9571 e Exactly! Pinifarina have designed Ferrari, la forza and other cars...

It looks like if the Fiat Panda could grow like the Hulk when it got angry

@user-jk7yz3xs8z

3 жыл бұрын

Not at all. Total bs

@Lanciarules

3 жыл бұрын

Fiat Uno

@rowdy6274

3 жыл бұрын

It's more like a Range Rover with down syndrome

@johnjobber2219

3 жыл бұрын

@@rowdy6274 A Range Rover that has a family tree with no branches

@Fiorano_AR

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, Fiat Uno

Looks like a Range Rover that has raided the FIAT parts bin

@ericrojasvelez8891

3 жыл бұрын

No its not....is a oversize yugo

@kobra6660

3 жыл бұрын

Basically modern maseratis today that you can tell where certain parts came from a fiat bin

@force-yq8pp

3 жыл бұрын

Ashtray from Maserati Khamsin! Not Fiat. Dash VDO ( Porsche Bmw etc) combo switch Lancia....not Fiat.

@force-yq8pp

3 жыл бұрын

@@kobra6660 Aston Martin from Ford, Land Rover from Buick, Layland, BMw, Ford, Porsche =Volkswagen Beatles, polo, golf, Jaguar from Ford, Audi, Seat, Skoda from VW, Lamborghini from Alfa and now WV/Audi, and I can continue with Japanese and or American cars....

One of the best Doug reviews for Doug fans I have seen in awhile. So quirky yet so so great. 100% had me glued and laughing with sheer enjoyment through the whole video. Thanks Doug and thanks Laforza for bringing the material.

When I look at this it makes me think that it's something Silvester Stalone would be driving around in 1989

This Truck was WAAAY ahead of its time in 89. Cell phone controls on dash , built in radar detector, flush headlights , supercharged 5.0 motor and great , roomy interior. Nice !

@johnjohnmcclane1818

3 жыл бұрын

The phone, radar detector, and supercharger are all almost certainly aftermaket customizations.

@theoneandonlyrustyshaklefo6256

3 жыл бұрын

@@johnjohnmcclane1818 He literally said in the video the radar detector came from the factory.

@johnjohnmcclane1818

3 жыл бұрын

@@theoneandonlyrustyshaklefo6256 He also referred to the phone as a radio. He doesn't really know much about the nuts and bolts of the cars he reviews.

I´d guess the turning signals and rear lights are really like the Brazillian Fiat UNO from early 90s

@JulianSauco

3 жыл бұрын

This. Looks like a Fiat Uno SUV lol

@eitaporrameudeus

3 жыл бұрын

The front grill look like the brilliant Gurgel BR800 😅

@ivannorberto7669

3 жыл бұрын

É um uno grandão

@bjthedjdutchdude1992

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah and the rear wiper too. It looks like it came from a Lancia.

@festol1

3 жыл бұрын

Also the trunk lid and rear quarter windows is a almost the same saved proportions.

It's like a range rover poorly translated over the phone in Italian.

I owned 2 Laforzas back in 1992, and frankly speaking it's very Durable and I BET if any other SUV has same powerful 4WD,,, I have tried the LAFORZA 4WD in the toughest Deserts in Jordan Wadi Rum and in Saudi Arabia and the performance was stunning.

It really was ahead of its time: 30 years ago, it already displayed panel gaps an average Tesla owner could only dream of in 2021.

@billcoley4426

3 жыл бұрын

Haha

@carltonleboss

3 жыл бұрын

Very good

@pex_the_unalivedrunk6785

3 жыл бұрын

Or Maserati panel gaps...

@OhPhuckYou

3 жыл бұрын

As a Ford owner, I'm kinda jealous of the panel gaps.

@Christian-fd2ct

8 ай бұрын

Nevertheless less laforza have been built in 18 years than Tesla is building in a week. Nobody cares for panel gaps or stuff like that in a daily miler.

Jeep, an American company: Litre. Laforza, an Italian company: Liter.

@ProjectEurobeat

3 жыл бұрын

Lol I remember too from the Cherokee video

@fpalas

3 жыл бұрын

Litre is British (European) spelling and Liter is American so that is why

@Vin80_

3 жыл бұрын

The Laforza is Italian and says Liter, the Jeep Cherokee's are American, yet they say Litre. It's a case of irony.

@robertschnobert9090

3 жыл бұрын

@@fpalas liter is also German haha 🌈

@stanleymasterson1135

3 жыл бұрын

Jeep is no longer American. The parent "Stellantis" is headquartered in the Netherlands now, therefore "litre". The LaForza, which I own a 1989 in mint condition, used an American engine, therefore "liter"

In Italy was called Magnum and produced from Rayton-Fissore company. It was one of the first luxury SUV (at that time this category was limited to Range Rover :-). Due to lack on electronic assists and poor manufacturing was a total failure. Basically it was a mix of other car/vans pieces: it was higly unreliable and very dangerous to drive due to high center of gravity.

Looks just like a scaled up 1989 Fiat Uno 5 door !... only with taller suspension and bigger wheels !

@lupodelupis3672

2 жыл бұрын

Do you imagine if it was a scaled up 1987 Fiat Duna 😱😱😱 Here in Italy is considered the ugliest car ever made and it was really an abomination 😂😂😂

@BITTYBOY121

2 жыл бұрын

@@lupodelupis3672 Very interesting 👍I've never seen a Fiat Duna before... 😲😲 It looks like an Uno with a boot added onto it !.... The Uno was a 3 or 5 door hatchback... this Duna thing was a 2 or 4 door saloon 😂

@hrgiyzueghe

2 жыл бұрын

@@lupodelupis3672 There's a white Duna near my house with racing blue-red stripes on it, looks really cool, it's kind of a joke by a nearby mechanic who owns it. It became quite rare nowadays.

@MrBrno

2 жыл бұрын

@@hrgiyzueghe They're still SO common here in Argentina and Brazil, they're literally everywhere in all kinds of shapes.

Doug: The Laforza was an utter failure Also Doug: Good news this Laforza is now up for sale

@send9

3 жыл бұрын

Failure == more desirable

@LeMeBucallion

3 жыл бұрын

@@send9 I wish that was true for people as well, I would be really popular with women

@TheNightrider88

3 жыл бұрын

He didn't said that it's a bad car.

"the front is too generic" The WHOLE car looks like a generic 3d Asset Doug

@Szujhinzu

3 жыл бұрын

This

@db4z09

3 жыл бұрын

Looks like a generic video game suv

@Hype679

3 жыл бұрын

@@db4z09 Cars in GTA San Andreas looked better than this.

@corystephens7787

3 жыл бұрын

Doug is a potato....

@ClaudioMichel

3 жыл бұрын

@@Hype679 Oh no they didn't: gta.fandom.com/wiki/Huntley

Wow Man! This is incredible! I was talking to my friend about a Ferrari Engine SUV that was on sale here in Tampa FL, like 10 years ago, they wanted $7000 for it back then! But once again you cleared my doubts about this vehicle. Thanks again for another great video fro you I missed … you have so much gold content!!! My friend has a Chrysler Aspen, he asked me to ask you if you could give a review to that quirky SUV? Happy New 2022! God Bless!

@jackbower8671

8 ай бұрын

The Aspen is just a Durango tho

"Bravo" Doug, for having found this "pearl" from the past. In Italy we remember this model (the "RF Magnum"), sold here during the eighties. Very very rare today on the streets. Never known it was renamed in the USA. Thanks Doug.

I don't wanna see McLarens, I don't wanna see Bugattis. I wanna see cars like this. Fabulous! Amazing!

@jesusserrano8769

3 жыл бұрын

Well i would really want Him to review the bugatti atlantic someday

@VidweII

3 жыл бұрын

@@jesusserrano8769 Who, Jesus?

@jesusserrano8769

3 жыл бұрын

@@VidweII yeah i mean its almost impossible but dough channel its growing

@VidweII

3 жыл бұрын

@@jesusserrano8769 was a joke bro, cuz you capitalized "him."

@IHeartMyLada

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I wanna see him doing reviews on more Socialist cars after the Trabant and the Volga. There are a handful of Ladas and in the States. But I'd also love to see him driving an old 2 stroke Wartburg or one of those rear engined Skodas.

I'm European. I was an adult in the 1980's. Ive literally never heard of this car. Not even once. Awesome.

@wondermaid6452

3 жыл бұрын

I'm French, know a lot about cars but same i never heard of this thing before. Crazy !

@karlbark

3 жыл бұрын

(European too). - That's because they were almost only! sold in Italy 🇮🇹 and USA🇺🇸 -That's pretty amazing, huh?!? (But they never had a good production ability, apparently). (As far as volume goes).

@giovannigarbarini

3 жыл бұрын

Police forces in Italy used these a lot through the 2000s.

@WARXion

3 жыл бұрын

In Europe it was called Magnum, so it was marketed as an American style SUV while in America it was marketed as an Italian style car... What a stupid stunt.

@nessuno5403

3 жыл бұрын

@@WARXion it was clever, but the product and clients weren't fully ready

This SUV looks just like silhouette in the animation apperaring in Doug Demuro at the start of the video

@PrinceaIIy

2 жыл бұрын

yeah, although the one in the intro is a land rover

supercharged 302, well at least they did something correct

Two things I haven't heard Doug mention in this video: It was said that during crash testing, the Laforza was so strong, it plowed THROUGH the crash barrier. So you know it was safe. (Honestly, the only reason my parents considered allowing me to get a car without airbags). And the other thing is that the Laforza was originally manufactured for the Italian Army, and thus the offroadability and other certain quirks that drew me in (the 32 foot turning circle is INCREDIBLE for a vehicle of this size) and the 18 gauge steel frame were made for actual military duty and thus meant to be durable. The Ford V8? Ugh. Better than the Italian alternatives, but still. And the electrics left something to be desired.. especially the window motors, which were a common failure point, and the windows in general went up and down verrrry slowly, until the motors eventually gave up the ghost.

@force-yq8pp

3 жыл бұрын

Well the Alfa Busso V 6 with theZF gearbox is very good indeed. The Ford V8 is much better then engines used by completion in the 80s and 90s. Range used a old Buick V8, Merc had only the old inline 6 cyl 3.0 at that time Toyota was not much better...etc..

@mfslyphantom8811

3 жыл бұрын

I don’t get it what is wrong with the Ford V8? What would have been a better choice from that time?

@phrodendekia

3 жыл бұрын

I would prefer a Deutz diesel

@Madougatee

3 жыл бұрын

Are you saying the turning circle is good? Seems pretty bad to me lol

@joost5345

2 жыл бұрын

Going through the crash barrier is actually not a sign of saftey - in fact it’s a sign of not being safe at all. You may have missed out on Newton’s laws in school but that means you will ne absorbing the shock yourself, rather than the crumple zone of the car…

Once I realized that the rear tires weren't centered in the wheel wells, I couldn't stop staring. That is some serious amateur-hour engineering.

@ShaiyanHossain

3 жыл бұрын

Its a niche italian car, engineering wasn't a priority

@tomgarcin

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, now that's all I can see.

@laurentt7579

3 жыл бұрын

I noticed it from the beginning of the video and it annoyed me sooo much I fast forwarded the parts where it was visible... :D

@goodmorning8172

3 жыл бұрын

That's the first thing I noticed and came directly to the comments to see if anyone did too.

@nobiggeridiot

3 жыл бұрын

This happens on a few vehicles that use radius arm style rear suspension with more than average travel.

I saw a nice one of these Laforza's in red in person back in the 80's when I was a teen. It was in our next door neighbors driveway. At first glance I thought it might be a Ford. I don't care if people don't like it, or if it failed, I like it. It's so great to see Doug finally reviewing one. If I had the money I would buy one. Thank you.

@mathc1769

2 жыл бұрын

i actually legit really like these but i drive an Abarth so i’m bad at making reasonable car choices

All new at time maker 4:24. Doug Demuro introduces the death board. From the 1980s... Never mind all that. Keep up the good work Doug.

The emblem being an "L" says so much lol

@walker5304

3 жыл бұрын

Like Lexus?

@matejmatej3554

3 жыл бұрын

Hehehehe that crossed my mind to 😜😋👍🤪🇸🇮

@texasBMXer

3 жыл бұрын

"It was looking kinda dumb with a finger and a thumb in the shape of an "L" on it's headrest."

@lincolnlu9869

3 жыл бұрын

@@texasBMXer your comment is too good to be hidden deep in the recesses here.

It looks like a kids drawing of an old grand Cherokee.

@leangaming6967

3 жыл бұрын

With the front of a 2000's range rover

@phillyspitta8147

3 жыл бұрын

With the old Cherokee shifter too

@JosephDawson1986

3 жыл бұрын

kind of reminds me of a mid 90's model Acura SLX

@IchWillNicht0119

3 жыл бұрын

@@JosephDawson1986 Right on! To me, it gives vibes of 2nd gen Isuzu Trooper (aka the SLX) and the 2nd gen Nissan Pathfinder. Which is kind of a compliment to the LaForza given it was designed well before those two ever left the factory.

@matejmatej3554

3 жыл бұрын

Was thinking like you 👍👍🇸🇮😜

I love the "Deposito a Domicilio" wood screws used to hold in the various wood panels around instrumentation, such as @9:01 and @9:31.....

Wow I’ve been living in Italy since 1993 and I totally forgot about this car. I used to see it only as Police and Carabinieri cars, yet back in a day such cars including Range Rovers were a very rare sight, but this one was literally nonexistant apart from the cops and it wasn’t a bad car at all, probably just too big and too niche for the time and for the Italian towns and cities.

Before he went inside I honestly laughed about the fact that he called this a luxury suv.

@reformedgarbage5415

3 жыл бұрын

Same! I was thinking that was the most hideous monstrosity I've ever seen... but man that interior (for the most part) is gorgeous.

@Numbahz

3 жыл бұрын

Before this reply I figured no one would say something so arrogant.. This is a fairly well known suv if you worked in the car audio industry in the 80s or 90s for sure haha

@ChooChooMcBoogie64

3 жыл бұрын

@@Numbahz I was born in the early 90s. My knowledge of cars from back then is mostly what my family had.

@Johnny2Feathers

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely nicer than others from the same era

@anasevi9456

3 жыл бұрын

@@reformedgarbage5415 " hideous monstrosity I've ever seen." i would have called it monstrously boring, but no way does it have enough character to actually offend imho. A couple who were friends of my parents actually had one of these, a La Forza. I as a 11 asked them if it was a Ferrari, They laughed and basically said what Doug did. Have to respect people who didn't BS before the internet era.

"A lot of LaForza you see driving around have Ferrari badges..." Uh, Doug, how many LaForzas are you seeing driving around regularly?

@johsch36

3 жыл бұрын

It is very true. Almost every LaForza I have seen does in fact, have Ferrari badges on them. There are a couple here in Phoenix.

@624radicalham

3 жыл бұрын

More than a couple of them in Florida and he's right, some do have the Ferrari badges added as a (far fetched) nod to the Italian heritage

@carsmartsmedia2324

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, some do. Not badges per se, but decals. It's because of the Pininfarina connection.

Nice review, as usual. This Laforza styling borrows very much from the mid 1980s Fiat Uno, especially the Brazilian version, which had a very similar hood. The windows, doors, windshield, tailgate.

18-20 years ago the local salvage yard had one of these sitting behind their office. It was one of the owners personal projects. He said "engine runs perfectly. Everything else...well...needs attention." I forgot how huge these things are.

It looks like when a ZJ Jeep Grand Cherokee and Isuzu Rodeo have a child.

Just park this big boy next to a fiat uno, and you have recreated the "don't speak with me or my son ever again" meme.

@leogen8879

3 жыл бұрын

Doug needs to review a Fiat Uno. The world needs it!

@InfiniteForces

3 жыл бұрын

If doug is curious to see where did they borrow the lights at 16:55,tell him it's from a Fiat Uno.

@alessioave5623

3 жыл бұрын

@@InfiniteForces it is not. Those are specifically made for the US version. The magnum tail lights in Europe were from a Citroen BX with a bottom part added. Fiat uno tail lights are much smaller and completely different. It's like to state that the Range Rover classic was a mini clubman on steroids.

Great work as always !!

Great review and glad you had the opportunity to drive it. I am a Saab fan and didn't know that it was from the same designer and thank you for sharing the adventure. Never have had the opportunity to sit in or drive anything from the Italian leather so bucket list. Why only 25k likes?

If I bought this Laforza, I would first drive it through the snow while pulling a horse trailer and then I would park my Laforza so I could go "watch a fountain"; all the while repeating, "Laforza offers the power of a heavyweight champion with the agility of a dancer. No other automobile has faced a diverse a group of conflicting needs, and answered them all."

Interesting Laforza quirk you might like: the door handles are shared with the Delta Integrale.

@gianfavero

3 жыл бұрын

The hour clock as well

@TheJohnboyhunter

3 жыл бұрын

It makes sense since Lancia was owned by Fiat for decades.

Always wanted to see the ins and outs of the Laforza! Awesome!

I love how the front end has the classic default cold war era grille and headlight pattern

Really looks like a FIAT Uno that someone has attached to a high pressure line and inflated

@provostkhot

3 жыл бұрын

Nah man, look up "Wartburg". ;)

@bulletproofrider8352

3 жыл бұрын

Or installed a rough country lift lol

@mattcook3801

3 жыл бұрын

It really does scream Fiat.

@GunsNGames1

3 жыл бұрын

If the Uno was a crossover of the early 1990s.

@xZeiZeix

3 жыл бұрын

Rear hatch is almost 1:1 from Fiat Uno, except slight horizontal grease under window. Same for the front door from A-pilar, window frame. Bigger of course. Rear lights resembles Uno lights, but their are not.

In a true James May fashion, this should called The Theforza

@irregulargorilla8217

3 жыл бұрын

At that point, call it the *TheForce*

I remember seeing these for sale in the Dupont Registry back in the day

@maconp1119

2 жыл бұрын

Sure it wasn’t the “Greensheet”?

As a kid, I used to see a few of these driving around Cincinnati. Never got a chance to see it up close like this. Cool.

Except for the bland exterior styling and mediocre build quality, this thing really wasn't that bad. It was just ahead of its time before luxury SUVs became the highly desirable status symbols they are today.

@samlepro3

3 жыл бұрын

@@BadBlonde-CarHistory So they're actually reliable? Not that surprising considering it has a Ford V8, but still that's pretty cool. Edit: Deleted comment said they knew someone who drove a Laforza regularly to this day.

This... looks like the GTA equivalent of the Range Rover of the time.

Clearly one of his most souvereign videos in 2021. Very relaxed.Great!

Doug, the hand brake and the seat belt buckles gave me a flashback because my grandpa's LADA 'Samara' (Soviet Fiat) had the exact same ones, same goes for many switches and windshield wiper stocks I distinctly remember playing with as a little kid )

This reminds me an awful lot of a fiat uno

@huracan360

3 жыл бұрын

but on steroids

@glock4455

3 жыл бұрын

The taillights are literally from the uno

@josejacobo

3 жыл бұрын

@@glock4455 Yes they are. Uno was my first car ever and that was my very first thought

@A320Pilots

3 жыл бұрын

@@glock4455 Nope, theyre from the citroen BX

@NoName-tz5ji

3 жыл бұрын

I owned an 85 uno and trust me that is no uno

Italian Wikipedia also said that this was available with a 455 hp GM engine. Many years before the 2002 cayenne turbo with 450 hp. Even thoug we Germans think that we invented the performance suvs segment ( x5 4.6i, ml55 Amg and cayenne turbo), the italians invented indeed, with this vehicle and the mightly Lamborghini LM002.

@mortensenvick5711

3 жыл бұрын

Yes but Germans are the best in der world, regardless what who or when

@karlk.6819

3 жыл бұрын

They are not reliable and built in few numbers that's why people will always remember Germans like the founder of fast sport utility vehicles

@denalisiomontpellier4064

3 жыл бұрын

Right

@duncansmeraldi6192

3 жыл бұрын

Monteverdi was Swiss not Italian

@eraxmr109boss4

3 жыл бұрын

I put a lancia badge on my velar Things no one eva would make, especially here in darwin, NT, best place in the world

The Monteverdi Safari was the predecesor for the Rayton-Fissore Magnum. The Magnum was built off the Ivaco VM 90 platform and was produced in Cherasco, Italy from 1985 to 1998 and was sold as the Laforza for the US market from 1989 till 2003 with production in Brighton, Michigan

The switch gear is SPAL (Italian OEM parts manufacturer) and the gauges are VDO (German OEM parts manufacturer). My dad's 1984 Merc 300SD had VDO gauges.

From speed tail to this. And no let off in enthusiasm. That's why we love Doug

This Blaupunkt Radio is such a sweet gem for every 80's car. Old school look with modern tech inside. I have it too in my BMW E30 and love it!

@Frank7681

3 жыл бұрын

Yes very good idea. I heard Blaupunkt also intend to make a new version of the Frankfurt RCM 82 just like the SQR 46.

@marekjirousek9186

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I had it in my old Škoda Felicia, really strange to see it in this weird "Iveco" SUV sold in the US

@karlbark

3 жыл бұрын

Yes! I loooved the Blaupunkt in my dad's company car 😎 😃

@karlbark

3 жыл бұрын

(BMW)

I literally couldn’t think of the name of this thing and I was thinking of it, then this video pops up. Wow Doug you read my mind sometimes 🤣

I owned one around 1990 - I do remember driving in snow storm - and when we turned on the defroster, snow blew right into the interior - it was fun while it lasted!

Doug's success has always been this wild animal documentary atmosphere. Analyzing cars as unique species. The beige shots and the sounds of birds confirm this.

@list3058

3 жыл бұрын

Okay, Karen.

@ut2k4wikichici

3 жыл бұрын

@@list3058 cringe

@TheSingularNextuz

2 жыл бұрын

Doug Attenborough

Doug: wants to promote Laforza sale on his auction site Also Doug: puts title "Laforza is an SUV Failure"

@ZGryphon

3 жыл бұрын

Lots of cars that failed initially become collectible later on, often at least in part _because_ they failed when new.

@NickSiekierski

3 жыл бұрын

@@ZGryphon 1980s: "spectacular failure" 2020s: "quirky, ahead of its time, rare"

@kaisersoymilk6912

3 жыл бұрын

Funny how in America this car has an "Italian-sounding" name while while in Italy it's called the Rayton-Fissore Magnum, called just Magnum by most people.

@user-jv7yx6nf6g

3 жыл бұрын

Yes he is gets a money on reclaiming this.

@MMM18092

3 жыл бұрын

He also said the design was luxurious. His sole reservation, when looking at possibly the ugliest SUV known to mankind, is that the front is a bit generic.

18:55 "also managed to stand out from anything else on the road" Car: *Looks like a large Lada Niva*

I remember seeing one of these at a new auto show in the early 90s. It was the only locked vehicle in the whole show. I was excited to see it since they were advertised a lot in DuPont Registry. Mysterious and glorious.

It's not often Doug reviews a car that I have legitimately never heard of.

@erikroest

3 жыл бұрын

Same here :-)

That Yugo body styling was a brave move.

@rolux4853

2 жыл бұрын

Nah not a Yugo, but it’s real father: the Fiat Uno!

@kli-kli

2 жыл бұрын

@@rolux4853 Yugo and Fiat Uno are brothers of different mothers. Zastava (Yugoslavia) was producing cars under Fiat license since 1950ties

@geoffmoore1828

2 жыл бұрын

LOL

Finally a car from the late 80ies, early 90ies I never heard of. I have known Fissore mainly because its relationship to swiss car manufacture Monteverdi. They had their own high end SUV the Safari - a 3-door hatchback which was Monteverdi's best selling car ever. Looking back there was a prototyp for a 5-door Safari hatchback and obviously Fissore made its body. Maybe there started the idea for this Laforza or Magnum...

a friend worked at a nice little used car lot in the burbs in the late 90s. they had two of them at one time. both had the Ford 5.0. we took one out for run. it was really nice to drive. really pretty inside, like a Maserati. it was softer in the corners that a rover but it made way more power.

The styling on this is decent, even by today's standards. Honestly my biggest concern would be parts and service cost.

@bolt5564

3 жыл бұрын

At least it shares its engine and transmission with Ford models, that should help with parts availability for the powertrain.

@aaron-fauth

3 жыл бұрын

@@bolt5564 cost tho is a factor

@mntsam1930

3 жыл бұрын

Nah, it looks like a generic suv you’d see in gta or something

@maconp1119

2 жыл бұрын

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. JUNK.

@GunsNGames1

2 жыл бұрын

I hope this is sarcasm.

The rare automotive misfits like this one, are always interesting when they are presented in a Doug review. Yes they are useless and cheap, but when they are unknown brands to many, they do have a mystery about them. You want to know more about the level of failure and quirkiness, what still works on them and what not and perhaps what parts on them are donor parts from other cars. Ugliness, rarity and quirkiness in a car, are always intriguing elements when presented and analyzed by the one and only Doug DeMuro..

I'm always shocked at what amazes Doug. Directional map light? Majority of map lights I saw in the 80's were like that, and I'd say about half of them I've seen in total. But yet, totally ignores it's a single light instead of having a pair of them.

First Time I see the US version of this vehicle. As you said most of the internal trim comes from Fiat production of the 80s. Console switches and gauges are from the Iveco Daily, a very successful small commercial truck. This was fairly common on small production italian cars, see Lamborghini countach for instance. Power windows switches and climate control are from late 70s till mid 80s Fiat/Lancia sedans. Bi level climate setting was introduced by Fiat in mid 80s on the Lancia Thema and was meant ti provide fresh air from the vents on the cockpit and warm air from below. Internal lights including the map light were common in all fiat production at that time, I have that in my 1983 Autobianchi A112. The european version was a bit more basic in interiors and installed completely different engines: 2 liters 4 cilinders naturally aspirated or supercharged by Fiat or 2,5 liters V6 by Alfa Romeo as petrol engines and 2,5 liters 4 cilinders turbocharged by Sofim (fiat trademark for Diesel engines). The tail lights are borrowed from Citroen BX. In Europe its failure was mainly due to reliability issues. In Italy It was widely used by the Police.

From the outside looks like a jacked/grown up Yugo. Inside a Maserati.

@bluruckuscrx8124

3 жыл бұрын

No it doesn't

@Real_MisterSir

3 жыл бұрын

which is perfectly balanced, as all things should be

@anasnasir9424

3 жыл бұрын

Fiat uno/ Yugo-ish... interior is exactly how you expect an 80s Italian luxury car to be.

@bluruckuscrx8124

3 жыл бұрын

@@anasnasir9424 I don't see any Yugo resemblance whatsoever, my neighbor owns a Yugo and I've been on it many times and I don't see any resemblance whatsoever

@anasnasir9424

3 жыл бұрын

@@bluruckuscrx8124 well that's your opinion, mine is the other way...😂😛 Although it resembles more with fiat uno.

Maserati does awful panel gaps...Laforza: hold my cappuccino.

@kobra6660

3 жыл бұрын

Nice to know maserati can hide the fiat interior better than this and why indont want to buy a maserati

@karlbark

3 жыл бұрын

😄😁😂 Good one ! 👍

@kobra6660

3 жыл бұрын

@@yungboicontigo9278 that's why indont want one

Crazy! There’s an abandoned one of these right where I live, the name on the back isn’t there, so for the longest time I wondered what the hell it was. I liked how it looked. It’s crazy to know it’s the OH LUXURIOUS L.. an American rarity like the Daihatsu Rocky. 🧐

Nice video, beautiful unit, the taillights are similar to the Fiat 1 and the climate controls are similar to the Renault of the 80s!!

Doug is the type of guy to skip an ad when it ends.

@rolutarboi1306

3 жыл бұрын

"Doug is the type of guy" the best comment 😂😂

Doug: "The LaForza also used a Ford V8 engine which wasn't really in keeping with its Italian heritage." De Tomaso: "Am I a joke to you?"

@alessioave5623

3 жыл бұрын

Well, Detomaso, Isorivolta, italmeccanica , Qvale, Bizzarrini, Fornasari, Monteverdi ( swiss Italian, build by Fissore in Italy ) etc...

@chucku00

3 жыл бұрын

Meh, Alessandro De Tomaso was an Argentinian who built vehicles in Italy with engines from all over the world (US, UK, Japan, and Italy only for Maserati and Moto Guzzi).

Pininfarina styling badge is probably half the value of this car ;)

21,000 was a strong auction result, and seeing they dropped 20,000 on maintenance in the last 9 months is scary.