THE KV-1C WAS ALMOST INVINCIBLE - Why does no one play this now?
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The KW 1 C 756 (r) in War Thunder used to be known simply as the KV-1C and it absolutely ruined battle rating 4.7! Eventually, once people stopped buying this tank, Gaijin moved it up to 5.0 and now I hardly ever see it.
Today, I played the KW-1C to figure out whether it's bad or people just assume it's not good anymore. Turns out... this thing is still just as awesome as it ever was! :)
Definitely one of the best tanks in the game still!
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@igorfontaine6669
Жыл бұрын
Love you Oddbawz! Keep up the content man!
@rensvanderklis6685
Жыл бұрын
Cheeseburger
@wkwkwkwk1466
Жыл бұрын
i love your vids but can you unbann me from your discord server?
@wkwkwkwk1466
Жыл бұрын
it was just a joke man....
@supremegreaser2399
Жыл бұрын
BECAUSE NOT EVERYONE CAN BUY IT.
What "ruined" that tank was that there were no other 5.0 tanks so you either had to tag along 4.7 lineup with it or 5.3. Now that there is VK 3002M ingame at 5.0 I see them way more than before.
@jacky9590
Жыл бұрын
Exactly. I started playing it regularly again as soon as the 5.0 panther got added.
@herlongwilliam6558
Жыл бұрын
Literally the best thing about the new pather is that i have backup to my evil kv1 now
@Callsign_viper
Жыл бұрын
And I always see the vk.3002 at 7.0 😂
@SEIGE381
Жыл бұрын
why be scared of up tiering vehicles? i have used m10 in the same lineup as the 76 jumbo… as long as the gun is still effective it’s viable… sometimes i even bring m16 instead of m42 as i’m feeling out of touch with boffers lead
@ttt2---763
Жыл бұрын
@@SEIGE381 The M10 is amazing at 5.7
When he said "Why can't I kill this guy?" I just pictured the entire enemy team screaming the same thing about him!
@CallofDutyBlackOps28
Жыл бұрын
i was thinking more in the sense of like Tom from Tom and Jerry; the sense of "oh lawd, he commin!"
At 4.7 it’s miserably OP. At 5.0 it isn’t as obscenely broke. But it’s still strong. Issue now is lack of lineup. At 5.3 it isn’t anything special.
@MPdude237
Жыл бұрын
I agree. Playing 3.7 USSR was awful against this thing. The turret and most of the front is impenetrable without going for weak spots and/or using APCR. The best shot was to side shot this thing at a relatively flat angle. Granted, I was not as skilled of a player when I used to play 3.7 but I was glad it got moved up so I would not longer have to fight it.
@hunlepto2239
Жыл бұрын
@God Does Not Exist Then explain why there are quite a few dogshit or situational premiums.
@cqpp
Жыл бұрын
@@hunlepto2239 stuff like the panzerwerfer premium or independent will always remain shit but are there existing as just fun premiums. Other stuff like the T-72 AV TURMS, XM-1 GM, XM-1 Chrysler and IS-6 are undertiered and the main money drawers to get people to grind with.
@fire_drake12.arc.24
Жыл бұрын
@@cqpp The XM-1's are sub-par compared to the 9.0-9.7 premiums around it, if you think that fucking thing is "undertiered" in its current state you need to look again. It has 0 armor, no smoke launchers (pretty fucking important), its speed really isnt special compared to everything around it, and it is stuck with a round from 8.7 that it is expected to use up to 10.3. M735 is shit. The XM-1 compared to things around it is not that great. On the other hand the fucking TURMS, is most definitely undertiered, Gen 2 or 3 thermals (and on commander sight), covered in ERA that results in making things that SHOULD go through not go through because the engine clearly cant handle it, speed that is nearly just as good as everything else beyond a non-existent reverse gear, ammunition that LOL-pens MBTs at 10.0 and very easily takes care of things even higher than that, tons of smoke, an autoloader which means your reload is consistent and you dont have to worry about fires resetting it. Out of what you provided the only things that are ACTUALLY undertiered are the TURMS and maybe the IS-6 if thats still even relevant. The turms is 10.0-10.3 material and gaijin knows it, it will never go where it belongs though, plus it has the 11.0-material BMP-2M to back it up easily. Once the XM-1 gets M774 and the smoke launchers it has artificially not been given, then you can maybe start to consider it "undertiered"
@bagofsunshine3916
Жыл бұрын
with the VK3002 it's really nice. combine it with the ostwind and you got at least the base of a lineup at 5.0
That shot early on on the t34 85 was so impressive. Youve had longer shots, but the time between you spotting it to firing just shows how good you are at the game
@derkaiser9881
Жыл бұрын
Odd is a good player, but he also missed the spot on that same guy at 4:44. Really the most important thing to focus on in this game is spotting. Odd's no slouch, but sometimes his ability to find targets is hampered--really he should be playing ULQ. It's considered "dirty" in the community but there's no reason to play with high or movie settings when it just puts you at a disadvantage.
@texassherman7093
Жыл бұрын
@@derkaiser9881 completely dirty to play on ULQ. If you do that and your PC a can handle better graphics you should be ashamed of yourself.
@truereaper4572
4 ай бұрын
Most basic shot ever bro
My man ignored the gun mantlet ripped straight off of a Pz IV, It's 50mm thick, guarantees a cannon breech, and usually kills the entire turret crew I'd also add that part of the reason it isn't played nearly as much is that the KwK40 75mm is not what it used to be, Shermans and T-34's have become a lot more bouncy since the penetration rework
@booferz4391
4 ай бұрын
Exactly, the tank is easy as hell to kill when you actually know how.
It was even worse when it was so plastered in bushes you could never shoot at the weak spots, and always hit volumetric or heavily angled bits.
" Why does no one play this now?" Are you kidding me, I see it almost every game at 5.0 Whenever I see this tank on the kill feed I turn my entire attention to it, if I'm in a plane I primarily focus on this and give it big big "hug you"
@XSpamDragonX
Жыл бұрын
nobody played it before the VK was added, and the few people who did were a literal cancer than forced 4.3 and 4.7 players into a onesided uptier against other nations 5.0 meanwhile the stupid first spawn KW1Cs would die once and leave the match.
@yamatokurusaki5790
Жыл бұрын
plus it aint that op as ppl make it up to be
@efethecaptain6
Жыл бұрын
@@yamatokurusaki5790 Is it better than tiger 1(5.3-5.7), I will take kv1c any day compared to tiger 1, so yes. Is it lower BR than tiger 1, yes. So it is op.
@yamatokurusaki5790
Жыл бұрын
@@efethecaptain6 nah , it's not better , it may have abit better armor but that's about it other them it also begin abit smaller
@efethecaptain6
Жыл бұрын
@@yamatokurusaki5790 "a bit better" LOL "I want 4.0's to have absolute zero change and I enjoy slaughtering a flank all by myself" I have seen kv1c kill my entire teams and average player is not capable of killing it. At this point it is OP still. It faces 4.0. 4.0 ffs.
I remember a game way back before volumetric and team repair and a lot of other things. I took one of these out on Normandy and got 16 kills. Considering my average is something like one per game, that's saying a lot. There was a teammate who sat back in disbelief as I was swarmed and still killed them all one by one in a point blank brawl. I'm pretty sure it was a full down tier. I wish I had a video to share.
@michigancube4240
Жыл бұрын
I remember having a down tier in this thing at 4.3 and I got swarmed by 3 shermans and a churchill, one was even a 76 sherman and they could not for the life of me penetrate my armor, I killed all the shermans and the churchill got bombed lmfao this thing was such a beast I dont regret buying it
Honestly, I'm with you on his one Bawz, this tank is awesome, and now that you have the 5.0 panther proto, it makes it an even better line up. I often take this thing out with my 5.3 german tanks and it does very well.
@onewaynestreet
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I completely agree. Even when I fight them, it's hard to get through that armor which shows me others are also having some hardships fighting me when I use it.
@XSpamDragonX
Жыл бұрын
I've never enjoyed this thing at 5.3. I would much rather use a Panther or Tiger, and by the time I would be forced to spawn a KW1C my useless wehraboo teammates have already left. Why would I bother?
@onewaynestreet
Жыл бұрын
@@XSpamDragonX I relish those matches where everyone fights until the end. Too few and far between, unfortunately.
@alexsis1778
Жыл бұрын
"An even better line up" implies there even WAS a lineup before the panther prototype. There wasn't. This thing hung out completely by its lonesome in a br by itself. That's why it wasn't used much. You either uptiered everything else for a premium vehicle or you uptiered this tank to 5.3 where you already have panthers and tigers. Sure it made a really strong backup for them but is buying a premium vehicle worth it for something you're going to be spawning as your 4th or 5th vehicle?
"We're doing fairly well, our teammates - not so great" as a German main this is so real
@zachrich7359
Жыл бұрын
Got 11 kills the other day in a Jagdpanzer IV/70, still lost because the other two points were completely overwhelmed. Playing Germany is awful.
@threemountainsgaming7560
Жыл бұрын
As of the other german mains you recal as "teammates", this is also very real. Now I have improved from being completely garbage - to atleast slightly garbage. What I mean by that is I managed to get a 1.5KD in the Tiger E which is still not good but it's better than what I used to have (more deaths than kills 💀)
@alexey_chekhovich
Жыл бұрын
That’s not a typical Nazi main comment. Rather opposite. But it’s true for everyone who has to play on the axis side.
@FreudRulz
Жыл бұрын
@@zachrich7359 It's like playing with the densest motherfuckers in the universe
@myth9240
Жыл бұрын
@@alexey_chekhovich German
I love playing with this tank, always bring him along when playing 5,3
@gr_egg
10 ай бұрын
Up armored pz4 at 6.3 must be great
Every time I play Germany 5.0 this tank will always go on my line up it’s a fun tank.
@ThelVadam7777
Жыл бұрын
Why would you ever play 5.0 germany? You have so many better tanks at just a tiny br higher
@illusiv8781
Жыл бұрын
@@ThelVadam7777 because I wanna play with this tank
@ThelVadam7777
Жыл бұрын
@@illusiv8781 just play 5.3 and bring it along
@illusiv8781
Жыл бұрын
@@ThelVadam7777 and I do but my 5.0 line up has more planes.
@madsb7673
Жыл бұрын
Don't you mean, every time you play germany 5.0 you HAVE to play this tank? There is no other 5.0 besides the new VK tank they added
I think the 5.0 change killed it for a lot of people not because it’s bad at 5.0 but more because literally the only other German tank at 5.0 is the VK30.02M which is brand new. Other than that for the longest time you’d have to either up BR it in a lineup with 5.3 vehicles, or bring an entire lineup of 4.7 tanks with it that may start to struggle.
@robertharris6092
Жыл бұрын
Its got the same armor as the tiger 1 which is under BRed.
@cqpp
Жыл бұрын
@@robertharris6092 how many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man.
@TheDgamesD
Жыл бұрын
@@robertharris6092 Okay but part of why the Tiger 1 is at that BR isnt her armor, its also the Gun. The 75mm Pak 40 is good, but its not that good to be on par wiith the tanks the Panther and Tiger face.
I believe nobody uses it anymore because it's simply outlived it's glory. At 4.7 it fought 3.7 to 5.7, not that big of a deal if you were uptiered because your armor can be trolly. At 5.0 it faces 4.0 to 6.0, aka it can now see M-51s, Bulldogs, Cent Mk.1s, and M36B2s all that can easily kill it.
Really love watching your videos brother . Thank you very much for all the fun.
OH GOD THE PTSD FLOWING IN BACK WHEN THIS WAS LIKE 3.7? Alongside R3 and finnish kv1 this machine made my mind broken back when i was starting 2 years ago. I also suffered through EBR times too ): those four vehicles gave my mind such a big scar. I was abused by them.
@MarKus-sq7wy
Жыл бұрын
Are you selling local drugs or are you locally selling drugs?
Thanks for the vid, great content as always, keep up the great work!👌👍
A great tank. A good switch your brain of vehicle. I also get a good kick out of destroying them but the game was flooded with them for so long. Nice manageable amount now it seems. Thanks for the vid Odd!
fun fact, however much armour this thing has, you can kill this thing front on with the R3. just aim right of the gun and you'll go right through the gunners sight
@XSpamDragonX
Жыл бұрын
Meanwhile KV-1B is still 4.3
@EthanJail
Жыл бұрын
@@XSpamDragonX Yeah the same br as KV1-E which is identical to it
@XSpamDragonX
Жыл бұрын
@@EthanJail They are both busted, meanwhile Churchill VII is 4.7
Love it Oddz. These are the games I love to see. I wish I still played.
Omg I was not expecting the woody edit was so perfect I’m dead aww thank you Odd.😂❤️
such a good vid. i always watch these in the morning before school. so funny and good playing. how do you get such good vehicles anyway. is it pay to win or do you just have to grind yourself? :):)
i still play this KV and i love it .. and i also see some people playing it . I'm glad we got the new VK panther because now i have a good 5.0 lineup with these 2 tanks and the ostwind 2 , and some spare TDs' like the hetzer and jpz4
@45calGunslinger
Жыл бұрын
The problem is that basically no other nation has a 5.0 lineup so you get dragged into 5.3-6.0. I've noticed any vehicle with an X.0 BR is basically Gaijin devs saying "fuck you, eat these uptiers" because anything meta is X.3 or X.7, which is why the Vatniks are so salty about the IS-2 going to 6.0.
Was thinking of playing this thing out soon, but looks like I'll have to wait another six months now that he's unleashed the horde with this video.
Hello Odd, maybe this will be worth it for a future video: I have never seen the Russian Matilda (MK-II Matilda) with the 76mm gun in a video or in battle. It would be interesting to see how he performs in battle
@Eonymia
Жыл бұрын
It's not great, the br murders it. It can still be fun though. Against US and other guns that aren't super powerful it works the best. You can even even use the engine for extra armor like you could with is-2s and such. It's just too slow and faces really good guns at 3.3 and up and the 2 degrees of depression don't help either.
@SomeOne-pd6vm
Жыл бұрын
The Russian Matilda is a weird tank to play. It can either be absolutely terrible or completely stomp. In full downtiers its disgustingly good but in a 0.7-1.0 uptier it's not even worth spawning in since it takes forever to get to the battlefield and you'll likely just be oneshot at that br.
You have the best war thunder vids on KZread for sure keep up the good work
you played my favorite ground strike plane. you do so well with it!
Glad to hear there is more spookston,oddbawz content.
I actually play it quite often now with the VK 30.02M, it's still got that memey armor and I love it
I remember playing it at 4.7 and just kind of turning of my brain and clicking and getting a lot of kills.
May I suggest a combo video? The Russian Matilda with the T-34 gun and the Hurricane MkIIB with Russian 20mm shVAK’s I love weird hybrid vehicles like that where they are armed with mixed weapons from two different nations. Always fun to play them
@ImAFatCheezIt
Жыл бұрын
He can't play Russian tanks right now it will get demonetized cause KZread hates everything Russian
@robonthecob5092
Жыл бұрын
@@ImAFatCheezIt uhhh stop the cap
@r.ndomperson
Жыл бұрын
does the Valentine Mk.11 (RU) not have a different gun?
played this tank a few weeks back when we had all that server trouble and i kept getting crew locked in the u/s tree, so took this out it was fun
It was mostly a line up issue, moving this to 5.0 made it that way. Hell I used to use a panther D with this just to see how it would do at that BR and I would still have solid games.
Hey odd. After some small update not so Long ago, my camera started to shake whenever i hold WEP or shot guns From plane. Its kinda annoying, idk how it turned on because i Never Had that before in 8 years of playing. I noticed that when you use WEP and shot camera doesnt shake. How Did you Turn it off?
I have been grinding out Germany with this thing and I have realized from 4.7 to 5.0 makes a difference but not by much (in my opinion)
I am going to buy this during the October sale. I just started playing the VK 30.02m and really like it. Much more than the Panther. This will be a great lineup.
One of the nicest parts of the KW-1C is the reload. Armor's nice, mobility is fine, but that reload is so nice.
hello OddBawZ, the subscriber skull gets in the way of the kill feed in the bottom right corner and was wondering if it could be moved to the upper right corner. love the content
@ 21:55, 'That's not how you play a Churchill'. Would you be able to show us HOW to play a Churchill? Cheers Odd! Love your videos, they're always entertaining.
The SU-85 that tagged you is a king! I’m honestly impressed with him
All the times I see my brain dead teammates use this awesome tank and die because they refuse to angle makes me die inside.
This, a Vk3002 and a Hetzer are a fun lineup
I bought this years ago, like 5 years, and hadn't touched it since passing German tier III. Then last BP there was that challenge about getting multikills in a heavy tank, so I figured i'd give it a shot. One life and 15 kills later I no longer had a reason to play it, but sometimes I still like to, it's so fucking good.
@walliwabbel
Жыл бұрын
You bought war thunder? You got scammed sir
@edwardking9359
10 ай бұрын
@@walliwabbelthey meant the premium tank in the video, mate
That t-33-85 fight in the first round felt like I do when fighting one of them them every time in anything Japanese lol
Your videos are amazing keep it up
I had hoped that Churchill was a Black Prince, that’d be a good video :)
You need to try out the Crusader III and Cromwell I, they're 3.0~ vehicles that perform at 5.0+; they're basically Pumas/Locusts on steroids. They can penetrate a Tiger 1 frontally, or a Tiger 2s turret, can redden most barrels with a single shot up to 8.0~, and are shoulder stabilised. Leopards 1s at 7.3 are incredibly easy to kill with it too, as their turrets are penetrable with the 6pdr whilst if they angle even slightly they can be penned from the hull. To deal with M48s, destroy their barrel and tracks -- then aim for the neck as you can penetrate her frontally there. A ton of other vehicles you can easily flank and hit from the sides. They're also immune to .50 cal, whilst the Cromwell is protected against some SPAAs and IFV guns. With some aim, you can frequently one shot IFVs and SPAAs; they're also incredibly fast and incredibly small, which you can use with excellent effect for flanking or ambushes. Because of your speed and size, you tend to encounter a lot of Leopards, IFVs, and other lightly armoured vehicles -- in other words, easy pickings and big targets.
I dont play War Thunder, but i like tanks, i like your laugh. it's good content, even though i am a wot blitzer i will subscribe now, you've earned it
Definitelly recommend playing the A36 Apache with the Chaffe
i've been seeing them plenty, even before the vk3002 was there to stack with it
Man! This thing is awesome especially now at 5.0 with the vk it absolutely can shrek!
I was once up against that tank in a KV-85, couldn’t kill each other for 5 minutes. We either tracked each other or kept on peeking around a corner.
Hey OddBaws love your videos. By the way you should play the su100p
First premium I bought out of being tired of facing it. Still use it, still slaps.
I always play that thing at 6.0, its shocking how many hits it can take from some tanks
My main reason for dropping the kv1c and t14 are because the amount of uptiers i get with them, like bruh I can't get one game where they're atleadt at thier own br
One of my best SL grinder. I love this Tank.
Rolled mine out yesterday. Had an absolute ball.
This tank is why my american lineup always has smoke shells. Track it and swamp it in smoke was the only reliable way to combat it because at least you get time to manuver. Also a very underrated feature of this tank is its pretty amazing reload speed.
@kirotheavenger60
Жыл бұрын
Weirdly I've never experienced someone immobilising and smoking me.
This thing is a menace in ground sim, and sees regular play there as it has since the tank was introduced.
I definitely want this tank, because it's extremely good. I just don't want to buy a premium if it has no lineup. It still barely does, unless you drag 4.7 up with it. I was waiting for a good sale, or for it to show up in the warbond shop. I'll still go for it when either of those things happen.
When i used to play the Churchill III, i dreaded facing this thing and would run away unless i had a side shot or engine shot. I did not want to brawl with that thing.
That KV-2 was rendered, it was to the right of the house behind the tree. you can clearly see his turret @13:29 in the video.
there are also weak spots around the breach, inside the little "square" :)
Was about to say, that I quite often meet this tank killing absolute everything.
lmao ive been contemplating buying this at the 10th anniversary sale and im fully convinced to now
i think the main reason so few people play or own it now is that there are just so many premiums that only a few players choose to buy it
you can make almost any vehicle in game look OP (land and air)
This thing was such a menace and still is when it gets it's BR. Pro tip for people facing it: shoot the gun mantlet, it's only 50mm thick.
0:23 Ouch! Sound level change
honestly glad to not see this around. shit would bounce a t34-57 50m away on the side of the turret where it is almost flat. pretty much the B1 ter of 5.0
Saw a couple yesterday in battle. I still got a kill through the turret. Yes it is very balanced now. Equivalent to the 75 Jumbo.
You should play the T14 next. It's in the exact same curiosity boat.
@XSpamDragonX
Жыл бұрын
T14 armour is at least somewhat effective in a full downtier, and US doesn't exactly have any other competition for heavy tanks at that BR. KW1C is just worse than the Tiger at 5.3, and is literally the reason Gaijin added the VK at 5.0, because nobody wanted this premium anymore.
Very good tank. I am new to war thunder. I use this tank with VK30.02M and BR4.0 Panzer 4 in Deck. Even though the Pz4 only has a BR of 4.0 it looks like a good fit. Have to play carefully but it works out fine.
Would it be possible to play more lineups, maybe spotlighting a vehicle with a few others to back it up? It’s getting real old seeing people leave after a single death, and I’m hoping you could be a good influence.
With the new VK 5.0 is finally a decent lineup
It's not fun because it lost all its benefits from being bumped up to seeing 6.0 90% of the time.
This 5.0 lineup is money, especially with the ProtoPanther.
I have this tank but hardly play it for some reason...also what key binds do you use for sniper and zoom.
Can you do (another) video on the A.C.IV? I've taken it to 8.3 before, multiple times, and gotten top of the team using only it. It's such a good tank and definitely worth the ge
@crazyadam9281
Жыл бұрын
you really are lucky that the enemy teams you face are incompetent, if I did this I'd be dead in the first few minutes of the match.
The best thing thing to come out of the overpowered crafting event was the "make op" crafting memes. Server Hamster, Russian Bias and Germany Suffers were the favorites
Personally most of my favorite tanks that I ran with it were 4.3, 4.0 so it made my favorite lineup potentially 2 brs lower than what I fought
When the IS-2 was 5.7, it was rough playing it. Now? the gravy train is back!
Only been playing for about 3 weeks now. Noob question but how do you tell if you are in an up tier match or down tier? How do you tell where your tank stands against the enemy team?
i play this tank ALL THE TIME whenever i wanna do something diffrent. its in my 5.3 line up and its a good money grinder for me lol. LOVE this tank
Yesterday or two days ago was like: "Yee we fix the stutter and Fps drops bug and everything is ok" and first match started with massive Fps drop and throughout match there was too much stutters. E-Sport Ready as hell
usually grind events in this thing. it got me pretty far up germany while having a great time.
Oddbawz I've got a video idea U can play the Swedish trumpet and take it up to top teir and try to get in the Saab viggen with it Also I just really want an updated video on the trumpet plus a video on the viggen
"RIP BOZO" I saw dat odd 😆
Nice video 😀👍 10 kills with this in almost every game, coincidence? I don't think so 😂
I'd say what killed this tank was the line ups and what they added around the tank. This thing is heavy with a gun from a 3.3 tank (ik it's not the exact same one but still Pz IV F2) the tank has great armor but I rather be fast and with a better gun then slow with alot of armor. Like look at the VK3002 same BR but being played more. But I grinded out the VK with this tank so maybe I'm bias 😂
That guy was the one I got through my 90% off voucher.. didn't even have to pay a cent! It's pretty good too..
Another one I don't see often is the hi ro prototype
man i havent seen that first map in so long
I used this tank to grind for the maus when it became available during the birthday
That thing looks like a joy to play :D
I can confirm I haven’t showered in 23.4 years
Why does the KV1C have a 40mm top plate on the lower hull but all other versions including the captured KV2 have 70?? Nothing down there got moved around for space... it's the same set up? Any answers cause I don't see anyone talking about it?
what is the song thats playing in the Start? 0:01 Edit: It's name is "Militärmarsch Nr.1 - Franz Schubert"