The Kotze Affair
In January of 1891, a public scandal erupted in imperial Germany over a party at Grunewald castle. What were the reasons for it, how did the participants react and what were the social circumstances that led to this whole thing?
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Sources:
- Dietze, Gabriele: Queering Willie. Wilhelminische Maskulinitäten
und die Kaiser-Figuration, in: L' homme : Zeitschrift für feministische Geschichtswissenschaft, 22 (2011), Nr. 2, pp. 95-112.
- Röhl, John C. G.: Wilhelm II. Der Aufbau der Persönlichen Monarchie, Munich 2001.
- Wippermann, Wolfgang: Skandal im Jagdschloss Grunewald. Männlichkeit und Ehre im deutschen Kaiserreich, Darmstadt 2010.
Music:
Prokoviev - Dance of the Knights
Dvořák - Serenade for strings in E-major
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Champagne? Spacious accommodation? Damn, seems like that prisoner had better life in Glatz than current citizens of the city. As always great content, mate 💪
Imagine the Kaiser visits you in hospital and gifts you an Easter egg 😂
Von Kotze means "from vomiting" in german. My friends name is Duke of Peeing and his brothers name is Shitstorm because if he goes to toilette we get a disaster warning.
@ellidominusser1138
Жыл бұрын
Chad german names
@Reichsritter
Жыл бұрын
Herzog von Pissen? I highly doubt that
@frogdoclp1377
Жыл бұрын
Glauben sie diese Geschichte ist wahr?da muss ich sie leider enttäuschen sie ist frei erfunden
@santi2683
Жыл бұрын
"Your excellency, Duke von scheisse requires an audience"
@jackripper9810
7 ай бұрын
"from/of vomit" would be more precise
This started out fairly wild but then somehow managed to escalate to a man being killed in broad daylight.
@Crimsrn
Жыл бұрын
trust me, the gay sex was much rarer.
The thing is it really wasn’t socially acceptable for men to sleep around either, though powerful men have often been given a pass because calling them out was historically bad for your health
@blugaledoh2669
11 ай бұрын
You are correct. It was just more tolerated if it was done men.
@vorynrosethorn903
8 ай бұрын
Spot on.
This was fun! I never imagined the german high society back then was this wild... now the roaring 20s make a lot more sense.
@SirManateee
Жыл бұрын
Lol
@drzoidnilsson73
Жыл бұрын
Yes, it thought was close to hilarious. 😀I had never heard about this and it is definitely a high society story on a Hollywood scripted level.
@rafaelokamura
Жыл бұрын
Try to search about the Harden-Eulenberg affair, the goes wild.
This channel is so great, I truly hope a channel like yours is monetized because you deserve it.
Wow, this was great! Keep up the good work!
@SirManateee
Жыл бұрын
I try my best
@Irobert1115HD
Жыл бұрын
@@SirManateee sir im afraid that i know your first name: hugh.
Well, that was something. 😳 I wonder how many such fun parties went completely undocumented. 😁
@SirManateee
Жыл бұрын
Probably a lot more than we dare imagine
@Troppau
Жыл бұрын
Good question
Imagine getting military position just so you can by prosecuted for something you didn't do. Wonder if he was paid for his time as cavalary captain
Just discovered your channel today and binged watched all of your videos great stuff keep it up
Great vid! The last kaiser seems like a very reckless person.
@SirManateee
Жыл бұрын
Which is why he was often called "Wilhelm der Plötzliche" or "Wilhelm the Sudden" back then
@Irobert1115HD
Жыл бұрын
germany had three emperors/kaisers: willhelm, friedrich the third and willhelm the second. friedrich the third ruled for just 99 days and is considered the best of the three with the second place being taken by willhelm. you need to be realy bad to be seen inferior to your own father that ruled for just about 3 months and 10 days.
I also remember reading about this one scandal where Wilhelm II's friend and courtier, Philipp, Prince of Eulenburg was connected to a homosexual liasons. That was questionable then and is questionable still, considering Philipp was married man who had eight children and multiple relationships with other women outside of marriage. In any case, Philipp was accused of being homosexual by a Berlin magazine and he took this to a court, suing his accuser for slander. The evidence produced got Philipp put on trial himself as a homosexual. Wilhelm II promised to arrive to pick up Philipp with his royal carriage the moment he would clear his reputation over that accusations. The stress and the court proceedings got to Philipp and he was not in good enough health to stand in the court after developing a heart condition. Kaiser brushed him under the rug, never speaking him to again.
@SirManateee
Жыл бұрын
Might be something I will have to look into ;)
@francisdec1615
Жыл бұрын
@@SirManateee Similar to Oscar Wilde. He made his own fall by suing the Marquis of Queensbury.
For a second from the thumbnail i assumed this was a analyst of a porno
@SirManateee
Жыл бұрын
Close enough
Its videos like this that make my time at my janitorial job more enjoyable, thank you 🥳
Brilliant video!
I was walking to the Halensee train station when you mentioned the duel there
Could you please provide the source for the Royal Court consuming 20% of the imperial Budget? This seems insane for an industrialized Nation.
Great job!👍
@SirManateee
Жыл бұрын
Cheers :D
I dont know how you are not a bigger channal but keep making great videos so when the algoritm gods decides to show your stuff you have a great backlog of fantastic videos.
This couldn't have been a more German affair even if they tried....
@eljanrimsa5843
Жыл бұрын
In Germany very few affairs start with actual sex. Usually we fight wars about a silly remark made while drunk.
Great work mate
@SirManateee
Жыл бұрын
Cheers!
"furthermore the one who points out the dirt (here), is seen as much more dangerous then the one who makes it - Kurt Tucholsky, German writer who left germany in 1929, calling it a sh*t-country.
😀Interesting (funny) story story and a very nice video. Prussian nobility knew how to party in a way that would have made Hedonismbot envious.
German Royals drama is really funny. lets put them back as ceremonial leaders of Germany that would be very fun to watch
Good stuff
Not something discussed often enough Nice
The most amusing thing I watched Today
Subscribed for the interesting history and because manatees are my favorite animals
BTW. Kotzte, as a noun, means vomit in German.
The puke affair? What a name
Bro got an easter egg from the Kaiser?! I want an easter egg from the Kaiser!!
Honestly I’m pissed he got a medal after being assumed as effeminate
OMG, I did not know this. Insane... Where do i join?
@SirManateee
Жыл бұрын
Just remember to bring protection
It's crazy I never knew about this
Fuck, you mean to tell me that all I've missing this whole time was a SLEIGH RIDE?!?!?
Das mit dem.Osterei war doch wirklich nett😊
You mean to tell me, that Finland almost had a SEXUAL DEVIANT as a king? 🤣
@SirManateee
Жыл бұрын
Exactly lol
@LapinPete
Жыл бұрын
@@SirManateee btw, if I may recommend a subject. Russo-Swedish war of 1741 "war of the hats". Just read a book about it and it was asshattery (pun intented) from beginning to the end.
Well at least von kotze was released when letters kept coming in.
i hope for more ghei shit but the affair was entertaining as well
@SirManateee
Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it anyway 🏳🌈
And where exactly is the evidence here?
@herbertschulz4313
Ай бұрын
You mean the lettres? They are in the prussian archive in berlin, you can go and read them
@patrickoehrle4686
26 күн бұрын
@@herbertschulz4313 There exist a lot of letters, nobody knows today whether these are authentic.😄
@herbertschulz4313
26 күн бұрын
@@patrickoehrle4686 yes we do. The people involved in the affair certainly believed they were authentic, or they would not have acted the way they did
Gotta love some Prokofiev Romeo and Juliet!
Yee haw its artical 175. If only there was someone who would stop that. (Enter Magnus Hirschfield, stage left.)
Well he was... Kinda not really "King of Finland", like he was chosen but never actually went through with it
yo rq are you finnish? your accent is kinda finnish
@-mortem-
10 ай бұрын
He's german
Oh hey
@SirManateee
Жыл бұрын
Hello fellow Polandball enjoyer ;D
Herzog Rammler😆
There was another interesting party in Donaueschingen with von Hülsen-Haeseler. From wiki 'During a formal evening function, von Hülsen-Haeseler appeared dressed in the pink tutu and rose wreath of a ballerina, dancing for the Kaiser and his assembled guests. The performance included pirouettes, jumps, capers and flirtatious kisses to the audience.Apparently exhausted by his exertions, the general bowed, collapsed and was pronounced dead after hasty medical attention. The circumstances were covered up by the officer corps so as not to further inflame public pressure over the homosexually themed Harden-Eulenburg affair. Ironically, it was von Hülsen-Haeseler who had organized the cover-up of that scandal. It features in a very funny episode of the podcast 'The Rest is History', 10 worst parties.
You know the more I learn about kizer Wilhelm 2 the more I realized that ya this is defiantly the type of guy that'll start a world war.
@Crimsrn
Жыл бұрын
he didn't even start the world war so you're already wrong.
@Mrmidknight-yx9pg
Жыл бұрын
@@Crimsrn I mean he could of not assisted austria against russia vausi g the domino effect that lead to the war
@eljanrimsa5843
Жыл бұрын
he was in over his head with Bismarck's diplomatic finely balanced web, and navigated a changing world with the stubborn ignorance of being always right by birth
@thanhhoangnguyen4754
Жыл бұрын
@@Mrmidknight-yx9pg He didn't have said in the matter that up to the other. Beside if you said that it Kaiser Wilhelm II fault i can also blame Tsar Nicholas II for starting to mobilize to help Serbia. If Nicholas II stop Russia mobilization there wouldn't be no war. This is between Austria Hungary and Serbia only.
@thanhhoangnguyen4754
Жыл бұрын
@@eljanrimsa5843 Bismarck policy already failing the alliance with Russia is dead. What the point of balance again? Especially in the Balkan. Bismarck balance have been shattered. Read the affairs around Europe before blame one man.
"The german empire was an empire of based traditionalists and very redpil..." the 14 year old American was saying before he watched this video.
@SirManateee
Жыл бұрын
It's always the same type of people lol
@hispalismapping155
Жыл бұрын
Liberalism among ruling class 😴
@vorynrosethorn903
8 ай бұрын
Boundaries exist to police behaviour, they can't stop them from happening, only limit them though incurring a cost for them. The fact this was a scandal and ended in dual suggests it was a right wing traditionalist society. Likewise Victorian Britain was one but it didn't stop the Prince of Wales from being a total moral degenerate.
@RuthvenMurgatroyd
2 ай бұрын
The ruling classes have always been degenerate no matter the era. It's almost one of their defining traits. I mean, even nowadays when almost everything is permitted it is still not enough for them and they must fly to certain islands to have their """fun""" whether they are aristocrats, democratically elected politicians, actors, clergymen, or even scientists. Overall though, social attitudes were less permissive and that was for the good of most of society.
did you know that kotze means puke in german?
You know Kotze Jeans puke?
Ich verstehe nichts
@SirManateee
Жыл бұрын
Oh nein
@Irobert1115HD
Жыл бұрын
einer von den ganzen skandalen des kaiser reiches.
@Irobert1115HD
Жыл бұрын
@@SirManateee könntest du vieleicht ein video über entweder friedrich III oder die revolution von 1918 machen? ich glaube nicht das so viele leute vom besten deutschen kaiser oder der militärisch gestützten friedlichen revolution die den ersten weltkrieg beendet haben gehört. zumindest nicht auserhalb von deutschland.
@SirManateee
Жыл бұрын
@@Irobert1115HD Ja, mit dem Gedanken habe ich definitiv schon gespielt. Wahrscheinlich mache ich beides ;D
@kobban63
Жыл бұрын
Väldigt
I’m glad being an effeminate man, who has style, and is a little too extraverted, is no longer a crime. Would you ever think about making a video about the Dryfes affair, if you haven’t already?
@SirManateee
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'm quite relieved about that as well. And I might make a video on that, thanks for the tip ;D
@pootis4986
Жыл бұрын
Effeminacy is a crime
@hedgehog3180
Жыл бұрын
@@pootis4986 Heavy would be disappointed in you.
@kobban63
Жыл бұрын
@@hedgehog3180 yes i could go on a lore tyrade but yes
The patriarchy hurts everyone
@markgarrett3647
8 ай бұрын
And we need it more than ever.
@SmashingCapital
8 ай бұрын
@@markgarrett3647 no
@markgarrett3647
8 ай бұрын
@@SmashingCapital Millions of American families and literal Americans especially in the womb were destroyed since the 70's without the protective and principled hand of the patriachy.
@vorynrosethorn903
8 ай бұрын
It's a construct like capitalism which largely means whatever it's detractors want at the time of speaking. Social hedonism is really really not a winning formula and is unbelievable predatory.
@SmashingCapital
8 ай бұрын
@@vorynrosethorn903 what?
May God* help him, this wasn't a pagan country
Kotze means puke
Hehe ... von Kotze
absolute cringe video
The kaiser was stupid as hell
@christopherstein2024
7 ай бұрын
But he visited people in hospital and gave them eggs!