The Kotze Affair

In January of 1891, a public scandal erupted in imperial Germany over a party at Grunewald castle. What were the reasons for it, how did the participants react and what were the social circumstances that led to this whole thing?
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Sources:
- Dietze, Gabriele: Queering Willie. Wilhelminische Maskulinitäten
und die Kaiser-Figuration, in: L' homme : Zeitschrift für feministische Geschichtswissenschaft, 22 (2011), Nr. 2, pp. 95-112.
- Röhl, John C. G.: Wilhelm II. Der Aufbau der Persönlichen Monarchie, Munich 2001.
- Wippermann, Wolfgang: Skandal im Jagdschloss Grunewald. Männlichkeit und Ehre im deutschen Kaiserreich, Darmstadt 2010.
Music:
Prokoviev - Dance of the Knights
Dvořák - Serenade for strings in E-major

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  • @Majupe94
    @Majupe94 Жыл бұрын

    Champagne? Spacious accommodation? Damn, seems like that prisoner had better life in Glatz than current citizens of the city. As always great content, mate 💪

  • @boostaah
    @boostaah Жыл бұрын

    Imagine the Kaiser visits you in hospital and gifts you an Easter egg 😂

  • @tubewatcher77
    @tubewatcher77 Жыл бұрын

    Von Kotze means "from vomiting" in german. My friends name is Duke of Peeing and his brothers name is Shitstorm because if he goes to toilette we get a disaster warning.

  • @ellidominusser1138

    @ellidominusser1138

    Жыл бұрын

    Chad german names

  • @Reichsritter

    @Reichsritter

    Жыл бұрын

    Herzog von Pissen? I highly doubt that

  • @frogdoclp1377

    @frogdoclp1377

    Жыл бұрын

    Glauben sie diese Geschichte ist wahr?da muss ich sie leider enttäuschen sie ist frei erfunden

  • @santi2683

    @santi2683

    Жыл бұрын

    "Your excellency, Duke von scheisse requires an audience"

  • @jackripper9810

    @jackripper9810

    7 ай бұрын

    "from/of vomit" would be more precise

  • @hedgehog3180
    @hedgehog3180 Жыл бұрын

    This started out fairly wild but then somehow managed to escalate to a man being killed in broad daylight.

  • @Crimsrn

    @Crimsrn

    Жыл бұрын

    trust me, the gay sex was much rarer.

  • @jonathanwilliams1065
    @jonathanwilliams1065 Жыл бұрын

    The thing is it really wasn’t socially acceptable for men to sleep around either, though powerful men have often been given a pass because calling them out was historically bad for your health

  • @blugaledoh2669

    @blugaledoh2669

    11 ай бұрын

    You are correct. It was just more tolerated if it was done men.

  • @vorynrosethorn903

    @vorynrosethorn903

    8 ай бұрын

    Spot on.

  • @KR4FTW3RK
    @KR4FTW3RK Жыл бұрын

    This was fun! I never imagined the german high society back then was this wild... now the roaring 20s make a lot more sense.

  • @SirManateee

    @SirManateee

    Жыл бұрын

    Lol

  • @drzoidnilsson73

    @drzoidnilsson73

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes, it thought was close to hilarious. 😀I had never heard about this and it is definitely a high society story on a Hollywood scripted level.

  • @rafaelokamura

    @rafaelokamura

    Жыл бұрын

    Try to search about the Harden-Eulenberg affair, the goes wild.

  • @darkbrightnorth
    @darkbrightnorth Жыл бұрын

    This channel is so great, I truly hope a channel like yours is monetized because you deserve it.

  • @Cheesenommer
    @Cheesenommer Жыл бұрын

    Wow, this was great! Keep up the good work!

  • @SirManateee

    @SirManateee

    Жыл бұрын

    I try my best

  • @Irobert1115HD

    @Irobert1115HD

    Жыл бұрын

    @@SirManateee sir im afraid that i know your first name: hugh.

  • @Artur_M.
    @Artur_M. Жыл бұрын

    Well, that was something. 😳 I wonder how many such fun parties went completely undocumented. 😁

  • @SirManateee

    @SirManateee

    Жыл бұрын

    Probably a lot more than we dare imagine

  • @Troppau

    @Troppau

    Жыл бұрын

    Good question

  • @supergowiak4369
    @supergowiak43697 ай бұрын

    Imagine getting military position just so you can by prosecuted for something you didn't do. Wonder if he was paid for his time as cavalary captain

  • @mountab1253
    @mountab1253 Жыл бұрын

    Just discovered your channel today and binged watched all of your videos great stuff keep it up

  • @Abdo-ip4te
    @Abdo-ip4te Жыл бұрын

    Great vid! The last kaiser seems like a very reckless person.

  • @SirManateee

    @SirManateee

    Жыл бұрын

    Which is why he was often called "Wilhelm der Plötzliche" or "Wilhelm the Sudden" back then

  • @Irobert1115HD

    @Irobert1115HD

    Жыл бұрын

    germany had three emperors/kaisers: willhelm, friedrich the third and willhelm the second. friedrich the third ruled for just 99 days and is considered the best of the three with the second place being taken by willhelm. you need to be realy bad to be seen inferior to your own father that ruled for just about 3 months and 10 days.

  • @boomblam5738
    @boomblam5738 Жыл бұрын

    I also remember reading about this one scandal where Wilhelm II's friend and courtier, Philipp, Prince of Eulenburg was connected to a homosexual liasons. That was questionable then and is questionable still, considering Philipp was married man who had eight children and multiple relationships with other women outside of marriage. In any case, Philipp was accused of being homosexual by a Berlin magazine and he took this to a court, suing his accuser for slander. The evidence produced got Philipp put on trial himself as a homosexual. Wilhelm II promised to arrive to pick up Philipp with his royal carriage the moment he would clear his reputation over that accusations. The stress and the court proceedings got to Philipp and he was not in good enough health to stand in the court after developing a heart condition. Kaiser brushed him under the rug, never speaking him to again.

  • @SirManateee

    @SirManateee

    Жыл бұрын

    Might be something I will have to look into ;)

  • @francisdec1615

    @francisdec1615

    Жыл бұрын

    @@SirManateee Similar to Oscar Wilde. He made his own fall by suing the Marquis of Queensbury.

  • @holakfun8243
    @holakfun8243 Жыл бұрын

    For a second from the thumbnail i assumed this was a analyst of a porno

  • @SirManateee

    @SirManateee

    Жыл бұрын

    Close enough

  • @JesusMorales-gc4yo
    @JesusMorales-gc4yo4 ай бұрын

    Its videos like this that make my time at my janitorial job more enjoyable, thank you 🥳

  • @aqwest9337
    @aqwest9337 Жыл бұрын

    Brilliant video!

  • @carlj.6983
    @carlj.6983 Жыл бұрын

    I was walking to the Halensee train station when you mentioned the duel there

  • @dingbum8618
    @dingbum86187 ай бұрын

    Could you please provide the source for the Royal Court consuming 20% of the imperial Budget? This seems insane for an industrialized Nation.

  • @adamkerman475
    @adamkerman475 Жыл бұрын

    Great job!👍

  • @SirManateee

    @SirManateee

    Жыл бұрын

    Cheers :D

  • @EliotDenStore
    @EliotDenStore Жыл бұрын

    I dont know how you are not a bigger channal but keep making great videos so when the algoritm gods decides to show your stuff you have a great backlog of fantastic videos.

  • @ingvarhallstrom2306
    @ingvarhallstrom2306 Жыл бұрын

    This couldn't have been a more German affair even if they tried....

  • @eljanrimsa5843

    @eljanrimsa5843

    Жыл бұрын

    In Germany very few affairs start with actual sex. Usually we fight wars about a silly remark made while drunk.

  • @icaroviera8257
    @icaroviera8257 Жыл бұрын

    Great work mate

  • @SirManateee

    @SirManateee

    Жыл бұрын

    Cheers!

  • @quotenpunk279
    @quotenpunk2797 ай бұрын

    "furthermore the one who points out the dirt (here), is seen as much more dangerous then the one who makes it - Kurt Tucholsky, German writer who left germany in 1929, calling it a sh*t-country.

  • @drzoidnilsson73
    @drzoidnilsson73 Жыл бұрын

    😀Interesting (funny) story story and a very nice video. Prussian nobility knew how to party in a way that would have made Hedonismbot envious.

  • @oooshafiqooo4722
    @oooshafiqooo47227 ай бұрын

    German Royals drama is really funny. lets put them back as ceremonial leaders of Germany that would be very fun to watch

  • @kobban63
    @kobban63 Жыл бұрын

    Good stuff

  • @TheStickCollector
    @TheStickCollector7 ай бұрын

    Not something discussed often enough Nice

  • @dgu8240
    @dgu8240 Жыл бұрын

    The most amusing thing I watched Today

  • @JaelaOrdo
    @JaelaOrdo Жыл бұрын

    Subscribed for the interesting history and because manatees are my favorite animals

  • @jkr9594
    @jkr9594 Жыл бұрын

    BTW. Kotzte, as a noun, means vomit in German.

  • @BigScreamingBaby
    @BigScreamingBaby Жыл бұрын

    The puke affair? What a name

  • @pickle4422
    @pickle4422 Жыл бұрын

    Bro got an easter egg from the Kaiser?! I want an easter egg from the Kaiser!!

  • @watermelonejones4476
    @watermelonejones44767 ай бұрын

    Honestly I’m pissed he got a medal after being assumed as effeminate

  • @Pomen
    @Pomen Жыл бұрын

    OMG, I did not know this. Insane... Where do i join?

  • @SirManateee

    @SirManateee

    Жыл бұрын

    Just remember to bring protection

  • @user-tk2lf1dv3s
    @user-tk2lf1dv3s Жыл бұрын

    It's crazy I never knew about this

  • @jakegarvin7634
    @jakegarvin7634 Жыл бұрын

    Fuck, you mean to tell me that all I've missing this whole time was a SLEIGH RIDE?!?!?

  • @mv.d.k.prepperoma6310
    @mv.d.k.prepperoma63107 ай бұрын

    Das mit dem.Osterei war doch wirklich nett😊

  • @LapinPete
    @LapinPete Жыл бұрын

    You mean to tell me, that Finland almost had a SEXUAL DEVIANT as a king? 🤣

  • @SirManateee

    @SirManateee

    Жыл бұрын

    Exactly lol

  • @LapinPete

    @LapinPete

    Жыл бұрын

    @@SirManateee btw, if I may recommend a subject. Russo-Swedish war of 1741 "war of the hats". Just read a book about it and it was asshattery (pun intented) from beginning to the end.

  • @J-Bahn
    @J-BahnАй бұрын

    Well at least von kotze was released when letters kept coming in.

  • @hhvhhvcz
    @hhvhhvcz Жыл бұрын

    i hope for more ghei shit but the affair was entertaining as well

  • @SirManateee

    @SirManateee

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it anyway 🏳‍🌈

  • @reichsmusikkammerarchiv1133
    @reichsmusikkammerarchiv11337 ай бұрын

    And where exactly is the evidence here?

  • @herbertschulz4313

    @herbertschulz4313

    Ай бұрын

    You mean the lettres? They are in the prussian archive in berlin, you can go and read them

  • @patrickoehrle4686

    @patrickoehrle4686

    26 күн бұрын

    @@herbertschulz4313 There exist a lot of letters, nobody knows today whether these are authentic.😄

  • @herbertschulz4313

    @herbertschulz4313

    26 күн бұрын

    @@patrickoehrle4686 yes we do. The people involved in the affair certainly believed they were authentic, or they would not have acted the way they did

  • @handle_unknown
    @handle_unknown Жыл бұрын

    Gotta love some Prokofiev Romeo and Juliet!

  • @patria3023
    @patria30233 ай бұрын

    Yee haw its artical 175. If only there was someone who would stop that. (Enter Magnus Hirschfield, stage left.)

  • @blepblops
    @blepblops Жыл бұрын

    Well he was... Kinda not really "King of Finland", like he was chosen but never actually went through with it

  • @normalperson410
    @normalperson410 Жыл бұрын

    yo rq are you finnish? your accent is kinda finnish

  • @-mortem-

    @-mortem-

    10 ай бұрын

    He's german

  • @Troppau
    @Troppau Жыл бұрын

    Oh hey

  • @SirManateee

    @SirManateee

    Жыл бұрын

    Hello fellow Polandball enjoyer ;D

  • @kampfkartoffel8994
    @kampfkartoffel8994 Жыл бұрын

    Herzog Rammler😆

  • @jcoker423
    @jcoker4233 ай бұрын

    There was another interesting party in Donaueschingen with von Hülsen-Haeseler. From wiki 'During a formal evening function, von Hülsen-Haeseler appeared dressed in the pink tutu and rose wreath of a ballerina, dancing for the Kaiser and his assembled guests. The performance included pirouettes, jumps, capers and flirtatious kisses to the audience.Apparently exhausted by his exertions, the general bowed, collapsed and was pronounced dead after hasty medical attention. The circumstances were covered up by the officer corps so as not to further inflame public pressure over the homosexually themed Harden-Eulenburg affair. Ironically, it was von Hülsen-Haeseler who had organized the cover-up of that scandal. It features in a very funny episode of the podcast 'The Rest is History', 10 worst parties.

  • @Mrmidknight-yx9pg
    @Mrmidknight-yx9pg Жыл бұрын

    You know the more I learn about kizer Wilhelm 2 the more I realized that ya this is defiantly the type of guy that'll start a world war.

  • @Crimsrn

    @Crimsrn

    Жыл бұрын

    he didn't even start the world war so you're already wrong.

  • @Mrmidknight-yx9pg

    @Mrmidknight-yx9pg

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Crimsrn I mean he could of not assisted austria against russia vausi g the domino effect that lead to the war

  • @eljanrimsa5843

    @eljanrimsa5843

    Жыл бұрын

    he was in over his head with Bismarck's diplomatic finely balanced web, and navigated a changing world with the stubborn ignorance of being always right by birth

  • @thanhhoangnguyen4754

    @thanhhoangnguyen4754

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@Mrmidknight-yx9pg He didn't have said in the matter that up to the other. Beside if you said that it Kaiser Wilhelm II fault i can also blame Tsar Nicholas II for starting to mobilize to help Serbia. If Nicholas II stop Russia mobilization there wouldn't be no war. This is between Austria Hungary and Serbia only.

  • @thanhhoangnguyen4754

    @thanhhoangnguyen4754

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@eljanrimsa5843 Bismarck policy already failing the alliance with Russia is dead. What the point of balance again? Especially in the Balkan. Bismarck balance have been shattered. Read the affairs around Europe before blame one man.

  • @mappingshaman5280
    @mappingshaman5280 Жыл бұрын

    "The german empire was an empire of based traditionalists and very redpil..." the 14 year old American was saying before he watched this video.

  • @SirManateee

    @SirManateee

    Жыл бұрын

    It's always the same type of people lol

  • @hispalismapping155

    @hispalismapping155

    Жыл бұрын

    Liberalism among ruling class 😴

  • @vorynrosethorn903

    @vorynrosethorn903

    8 ай бұрын

    Boundaries exist to police behaviour, they can't stop them from happening, only limit them though incurring a cost for them. The fact this was a scandal and ended in dual suggests it was a right wing traditionalist society. Likewise Victorian Britain was one but it didn't stop the Prince of Wales from being a total moral degenerate.

  • @RuthvenMurgatroyd

    @RuthvenMurgatroyd

    2 ай бұрын

    The ruling classes have always been degenerate no matter the era. It's almost one of their defining traits. I mean, even nowadays when almost everything is permitted it is still not enough for them and they must fly to certain islands to have their """fun""" whether they are aristocrats, democratically elected politicians, actors, clergymen, or even scientists. Overall though, social attitudes were less permissive and that was for the good of most of society.

  • @Irobert1115HD
    @Irobert1115HD Жыл бұрын

    did you know that kotze means puke in german?

  • @jojonas5463
    @jojonas5463 Жыл бұрын

    You know Kotze Jeans puke?

  • @clem714
    @clem714 Жыл бұрын

    Ich verstehe nichts

  • @SirManateee

    @SirManateee

    Жыл бұрын

    Oh nein

  • @Irobert1115HD

    @Irobert1115HD

    Жыл бұрын

    einer von den ganzen skandalen des kaiser reiches.

  • @Irobert1115HD

    @Irobert1115HD

    Жыл бұрын

    @@SirManateee könntest du vieleicht ein video über entweder friedrich III oder die revolution von 1918 machen? ich glaube nicht das so viele leute vom besten deutschen kaiser oder der militärisch gestützten friedlichen revolution die den ersten weltkrieg beendet haben gehört. zumindest nicht auserhalb von deutschland.

  • @SirManateee

    @SirManateee

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Irobert1115HD Ja, mit dem Gedanken habe ich definitiv schon gespielt. Wahrscheinlich mache ich beides ;D

  • @kobban63

    @kobban63

    Жыл бұрын

    Väldigt

  • @wetwillyis_1881
    @wetwillyis_1881 Жыл бұрын

    I’m glad being an effeminate man, who has style, and is a little too extraverted, is no longer a crime. Would you ever think about making a video about the Dryfes affair, if you haven’t already?

  • @SirManateee

    @SirManateee

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, I'm quite relieved about that as well. And I might make a video on that, thanks for the tip ;D

  • @pootis4986

    @pootis4986

    Жыл бұрын

    Effeminacy is a crime

  • @hedgehog3180

    @hedgehog3180

    Жыл бұрын

    @@pootis4986 Heavy would be disappointed in you.

  • @kobban63

    @kobban63

    Жыл бұрын

    @@hedgehog3180 yes i could go on a lore tyrade but yes

  • @SmashingCapital
    @SmashingCapital Жыл бұрын

    The patriarchy hurts everyone

  • @markgarrett3647

    @markgarrett3647

    8 ай бұрын

    And we need it more than ever.

  • @SmashingCapital

    @SmashingCapital

    8 ай бұрын

    @@markgarrett3647 no

  • @markgarrett3647

    @markgarrett3647

    8 ай бұрын

    @@SmashingCapital Millions of American families and literal Americans especially in the womb were destroyed since the 70's without the protective and principled hand of the patriachy.

  • @vorynrosethorn903

    @vorynrosethorn903

    8 ай бұрын

    It's a construct like capitalism which largely means whatever it's detractors want at the time of speaking. Social hedonism is really really not a winning formula and is unbelievable predatory.

  • @SmashingCapital

    @SmashingCapital

    8 ай бұрын

    @@vorynrosethorn903 what?

  • @Eli-tj3ve
    @Eli-tj3ve Жыл бұрын

    May God* help him, this wasn't a pagan country

  • @Reichsritter
    @Reichsritter Жыл бұрын

    Kotze means puke

  • @FlosBlog
    @FlosBlog11 ай бұрын

    Hehe ... von Kotze

  • @candide1065
    @candide10657 ай бұрын

    absolute cringe video

  • @SmashingCapital
    @SmashingCapital Жыл бұрын

    The kaiser was stupid as hell

  • @christopherstein2024

    @christopherstein2024

    7 ай бұрын

    But he visited people in hospital and gave them eggs!