Not angry with RB just disappointed with Ferrari and Mercedes.

@weirdboy7

Жыл бұрын

Especially Ferrari but what else do we expect lol Next Year™️

@titancheat

Жыл бұрын

@@weirdboy7 el 🅱️lan

@groundedgaming

Жыл бұрын

​@@SiegfriedDerDrachentoterhmm why is ferrari so kind as to let others take their turn first?😂

@Hani_Santa

Жыл бұрын

​@@SiegfriedDerDrachentoter kind of yes. The difference was that RB is not an engine developer. So RB basically always had a good car with descent aerodynamics but they where dependent on the engine manufacturer. Now they have a good engine and also the budget cap creates a more even playing field. Mercedes for example with the amount of money they threw at it in the past, could experiment different options. Now that's alot harder. I hope other teams will catch up. Obviously Mercedes is a really great professional team, I expect them to catch up sooner then Ferrari. And Aston Martin is also in a happy place. But you are right like in any sport dominant teams comes and goes.

@escos0410

Жыл бұрын

@@Hani_Santa if redbull had a engine like merc had in 2014 they would have dominated The car was good just the donkey in the back of it

F1 Innovations: New, Newer, Newest, Newey...

@groundedgaming

Жыл бұрын

😂Newey all the way in Red Bull

@pierremarcoux9465

Жыл бұрын

When you wrote that, you new what you were talking about!

@theonlylolking

Жыл бұрын

Newey's newest design implemented in the new regulations of 2022 and the newer 2023 season has brought newfound success for their drivers. If only the other teams knew what Newey knew at the start of new season.

This is one of the best F1 technical videos I have seen. Simple language and straight to the point. More like this please!

@adrianhjordan1981

Жыл бұрын

Really??? I've seen many, many, many better technical videos. This was far too basic.

@StreetComp

Жыл бұрын

Adrian, IMO there aren’t many, many better F1 tech channels on YT, at least ones that regularly do high quality videos on latest F1 news and races. I think most of us would agree The Race is the best overall F1 channel on YT, esp for free.

@registrado54

Жыл бұрын

​@@adrianhjordan1981 that's the point, it's basic enough for most people to understand is what makes it great

@lovemademan

Жыл бұрын

It has the lightest engine in F1! That is why its suspensions do so great! HONDA is top!

@DailyShit.

Жыл бұрын

Exactly ‚ stuff I subribed for. Not the clickbait shit they steal from Ressir.

Great 3D illustrations of the car and great explanations. Really great work guys! Hopefully more of this in the future!! 🏁

Simply titled, how one F1 team out designed and out engineered the others. To me, the current Red Bul dominance is very reminiscent of the dominance Mercedes enjoyed for years after the 2014 regulations came into effect. Then, it was way ahead of everyone else because it out designed and out engineered the competition and had a generationally talented lead driver, skilled enough take advantage of that and not make any mistakes. Now Red Bull has such a driver in Max who is doing the same - consistent, virtually no serious driver errors and extracting the car’s maximum potential lap after lap and race after race.

@KillZoneHart1

Жыл бұрын

Kind of a repeat of what Schumacher did with Ferrari in the early 2000s

@andrewvicendese9008

Жыл бұрын

Current Red Bull isn't close to the level of dominance enjoyed by Mercedes from 2014 onwards. Mercedes were over 2 seconds a lap faster than the rest of the field (which was shown in the 2014 Bahrain race) and they simply turned the engine up and down to ensure easy wins without blowing everyone away by too much to bring in some restrictions. In 8 years Mercedes had 80 front row lockouts (which is more than any team has had in the 70 years of F1) so I think it's a bit premature with Red Bull to compare them to previous years of domination until at least a few more years of data.

@chrisjohnson3253

Жыл бұрын

Better than mercedes they have a better driver to

@TestarossaF110

Жыл бұрын

@@andrewvicendese9008 yeah, they (merc) were great with their designs and engineering but more so because they shaped the rules and were working on it WAAAAAY ahead of everyone else. Red Bull did not. Heck, Toto has been actively trying (and succeeding) to change rules... 1 that cost them atleast 1 world championship, maybe even more now.

@raymondu99

Жыл бұрын

In all honesty that’s basically every dominant period in a nutshell tbh

Watching races, it's been noticeable that Red Bull cars spark against the road surface less frequently than other constructors. Also, I love that the king of aero helped keep his car in front by returning to a component as old-school and "solved" as the suspension. Newey isn't just a design genius, he's a competitive advantage genius.

@Quick_in_and_out

Жыл бұрын

@@nabilshafec7169 Did you just wake up from 2021? High rake was gone when the new regs came in last year

@armanromana1580

Жыл бұрын

red bull still has the most rake, even if it was reduced across the board

@ab8jeh

Жыл бұрын

Less frequently? Did you watch the video, it sparks _more_.

@EntropicExergy

Жыл бұрын

@@Quick_in_and_out Not with RB, where they use aero closure of the floor edge, contrary to physical closure that the other teams depend on. RB definitely still has plenty rake, even if it isn't as extreme as they had in the old regs.

The whole video summed up in two words: Adrian Newey

@CaptainSlow2469

Жыл бұрын

And honda

@sheabryantmusic

Жыл бұрын

@@CaptainSlow2469 not really Honda, because redbull would’ve definitely been dominant even with a Mercedes engine.

@t.k3579

Жыл бұрын

@@sheabryantmusic Absolutely since the current reg is more about aerodynamics than anything else

@JS-ll8nk

Жыл бұрын

and Max Verstappen. Perez in the same car got beat by Leclerc last year. Best car and best driver makes dominance.

@t.k3579

Жыл бұрын

@@JS-ll8nk Yeah because we all know who rb built the car around 🤷‍♂

About the anti-dive front suspension making the RB19 take longer to get the tires into the proper window, I think that's partly true. If you remember the Saudi Arabian restart after Stroll's SC, Checo pulled away on the first lap. That could be quite justified by the performance advantage alone, but it could also be related to tire heating. In Australia for example, the Ferraris took two laps to warm up their tires before the timed lap while the RBs only one. I think Mercedes has more problems than RB in this regard. In any case, it is true that things are closer in qualifying, but wouldn't they solve this by doing an additional preparation lap before each timed lap??? With the traffic in Monaco it will be difficult, but for longer circuits it could be useful.

@NeedforMine1

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I thought of that too. Maybe they could try a "warm lap" (not quite a hot lap but also not just a prep lap) where they run the car at 80% of pace but without the hybrid just to get the tyres as hot as possible (at the cost of sacrificing tyre life but idk, it could give them enough temp to work with)

@RoysIdea

Жыл бұрын

In Australia Max did do an aggressive warmup lap in Q3 where he was the first to leave the pits and could determine his own pace. Being behind others would make this more difficult

@sergioferrero46

Жыл бұрын

@@RoysIdea Yeah, but he still complainee about the difficulty of putting the tires on the right window

@johndansby3620

Жыл бұрын

Melbourne race was moved 4 weeks into fall…much cooler and low bite track surface caught RB off guard but this will not be an issue as summer nears and track surfaces will be hot…tire deg for Mercedes and Ferrari will once again be a major problem.

@sergioferrero46

Жыл бұрын

@@johndansby3620 absolutely. However there's still plenty of tracks located in tropical places and/or with unpredictable weather (Miami, Singapore, Japan) where massive, sudden rain could take place cooling the track surface

Aerodyneweymics

@foxy126pl6

Жыл бұрын

😂

If F1 cars are anything like the RC cars I race, then anti squat is a very good tuning option. A few degrees can make an undrivable car managable when you nail the sweet spot

@procatprocat9647

Жыл бұрын

F1 is totally different from rc cars because they're all about aero. The Redbull geometry makes the 'non aero' handling considerably worse Bu on balance the performance is superior.

Teams are going to have a hard time copying this during the season and have to wait till next year for a complete redesign/copy. And by then, Redbull could be onto the next best idea/hidden trick.

One of the best videos I've seen from The Race, really good explanation, thanks!

One of your best videos, in that it explains something technical without making it too complex or splitting it from its interrelated factors. Aerodynamics and suspension are connected in any race car which generates much downforce. When the downforce is generated under the car those things will be even more important to one another. It illustrates that complex, highly engineered cars are systems.

tbh this advantage is expected considering tha fact that Adrian Newey LITERALLY made his Thesis based on the ground effect

@steveluth3139

Жыл бұрын

So what did the other teams chief aero engineers did their Thesis on?

@annekeruben3238

Жыл бұрын

Not on ground effect

@steveluth3139

Жыл бұрын

@@annekeruben3238 and you know this how?

@wiegraf9009

Жыл бұрын

More importantly, he worked on recent RB side projects that used lots of ground effect.

@annekeruben3238

Жыл бұрын

@@steveluth3139 results every Sunday.

Well done video, Ed! As always!!

Brrrake did this analysis 4 days ago if you guys want a more in depth look. They're a way smaller channel as well so it would be nice to show support.

This video is fire! great job, and thank you!

Nice video this. We thought that porpoising last year was because of floor design, this was still the case but we completely forgot about the suspension characteristic on keeping the car weight distribution balanced.

@EntropicExergy

Жыл бұрын

You did, to me it was obvious. Ride height is the result of downforce as well as suspension stiffness/characteristic. It's the result of both aero as well as mechanical design, they work in tandem to position the car relative to the track.

@reynaldiwidjaja277

Жыл бұрын

@@EntropicExergy Yeah, at first I thought it was nothing to do with suspension design because they couldn't use non progressive spring like 2021 and just newey out designing underfloor of merc and ferrari.

@EntropicExergy

Жыл бұрын

@@reynaldiwidjaja277 Nah, the cooperation between aero and suspension is vital, especially with ground effect.

This is a particularly great video. Thanks!

i love these types of videos as an engineering student

This is exactly why I would like to see a Porsche Works (Werks) Team on the F1 grid. They are famous in their suspension and engine designs.

@andrewfayi9448

Жыл бұрын

I want Porsche to join F1 but I don’t think it’s happening anytime soon

Newey the king of aerodynamics . A living legend.

loving these in depth tech analyses

I put my money on the undercut of the sidepod, the negative space resembles the profile of the underfloor, the large entrance, small gap under the sidepod and finally a upward exit accelerate the air making a second floor and also helps to seal the underfloor due the huge amount of air it takes meanwhile Mercedes looses that air in the entrance of the sidepod

An excellent video! Great job

Thanks RACE! That is your best technical expose' yet! Thanks to Edd for making it so palatable!

I don't agree with the point that RedBull cannot generate enough front tyre temps. I think that the disparity comes from RedBull compromising it's setup in favour of the race, whereas its main rivals are obliged to place more emphasis on qualifying. This partially explains why RedBull is kinder on its tyres, being able to pull longer stints on softer compounds if necessary.

Combined with the right spring rates front and rear, you can dictate the floor geometry for corners of different speed so the balance is always in the right place during all corner speeds and all phases of the corner. The RB just seems like a really nice race car to drive, does what the driver wants when and how they want it to.

Amazing analysis, congratulations

I would've assumed it's fast because it's fueled by the tears and complaints of it's rivals

Well done team. The best technical illustration I've seen in a while. Keep up the excellent work 👏🏽👏🏽

Quality video 👏🏽👏🏽

I'm only subscribed to 3 F1 channels, but I must have seen 20 of those "Red Bull's speed explained" videos in the last 8 weeks. Have mercy.

This really helps explain why Mercedes had such extreme porpoising last year and couldn't just tune it out. Their floor design was radical and paired with suspension that couldn't be kept in a good window no matter how firm they made it, so once the tunnels did their thing, the rear would bottom out and start bouncing like crazy.

Ferrari and Mercedes were massively disappointing. Let's not fool ourselves, Aston's leap has been amazing to watch, but it has been magnified in part thanks to Ferrari and Mercedes dropping the ball.

@KillZoneHart1

Жыл бұрын

True but it does put Aston ahead of schedule in their bid to become a front running team. They've got the concept Ferrari and Mercedes would want but they've got all the aero development time advantage into this year and next.

@armadillolover99

Жыл бұрын

@@KillZoneHart1 They only get that extra wind tunnel time over Ferrari and Mercedes until the middle of the season, then it reshuffles again.

From an engineering perspective, with the introduction of extreme anti-dive suspension geometry, the natural kinematics of the suspension system are changed. With that change that is designed to reduce or neutralize dive on the front end and squat on the rear end also reduces small bump compliance and suspension responsiveness. A test will be when riding the curbs is needed for a fast qualifying lap.

This is also not the most costly thing to design and or test specifically...so kinda ironic that one of their biggest advantages they have isn't affected by the limited aero testing, it actually probably makes their aero testing more efficient as their platform is more stable so they can get away with less testing even.

It's the negative pressures the tires experience on the curves meaning lower temperatures and downforce for harder accelerations. Red bull has an organic rear curve wing meaning much exotic air effects

Great video

Your videos just get better and better, loving this content!

I think that for Monaco they are going to use less D30 in the shock absorbers at the front at least, to allow more rebound and less rigidly the front tyres 😊

This is definitely the era for Red Bull. Sure other teams may bridge the gap before the 2026 regulation changes, due to the development over the coming years, but the new era is all about aerodynamics where Newey excels. The Mercedes dominances was mainly due to the engine, owing to the head start Mercedes got to develop the power unit for 2014 onwards, although to their credit they did design some innovative engine architectural layouts that was later copied by other teams. Mercedes enjoyed their dominances because of their powerful engine, which meant they could run more downforce without compromising too much straight line speed. The inverse may be true for Red Bull now. Very efficient aero means they can run low downforce without compromising cornering speeds whilst maintaining great top end speed at the same time.

Bravo! “THE RACE continues to validate its leadership and popularity…now if only you could obtain a clear image of the RB19 aero bottom and specs on the suspension springs and Belleville’s plus packaging of key elements within the body and side pods…best season of the hybrid PU era with all the other teams hustling before Baku race!

Newey is the Silver Bullet for RB. He is a genius in F1 car design.

Let's not forget the interlinking of the rear pull rod suspensions. Which need to be running under the gearboxes. While Red Bull can place these over the gearbox. Resulting in more space under the gearbox. And thus more possibilities for aggressive floor design and downforce.

Thing is McLaren also had the same pushrod pullrod configuration as Red Bull and they were well off the pace. So it must be in the finite details were red bull are gaining performance.

Man this guy Andrew Newey is just 👌

Nice video

Looking at the GPS data there was around a 50kmh difference in speed between the Alfa Romeo and the RB-19 in Turn 9 at Albert Park in Australia.

@givemeabreak8784

Жыл бұрын

If you look at data on the speed traps Red Bull was the fourth fastest car. Williams was ahead of them.

@lolbots

Жыл бұрын

brutal

@EntropicExergy

Жыл бұрын

@@givemeabreak8784 Williams also isn't anywhere near RB in cornering speeds. RB simply used a higher downforce set-up, which they can easily afford with their powerful DRS.

My question will always be why merc haven't use this suspension on their 0 pod design.. it was clear they issue was inconsistency and keeping your car level would have help.

The Honda engine and e-unit, the brakes system and the suspension makes Red Bull Honda the dominator of the F1 now.

@bergkampdennis5673

5 ай бұрын

he said its aero not the engine and the best driver verstappen! for the engine ferrari is better than honda.

its fuelled by the drink itself and OFC as we all know, It Gives You Wings

I mean .. can anyone deny that Newy is the greatest designer of all time ?

@samwlloyd

Жыл бұрын

Unmatched in F1 for sure.

@wiegraf9009

Жыл бұрын

Leonardo da Vinci ain't bad either...

5:15 a wild deep-voiced Edd Straw appears.

It seems weird that nobody chose to copy this for this year

@titancheat

Жыл бұрын

Didn't McLaren copy their suspension?

@Totonator17

Жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure Aston has copied the rb 18 floor

@Totonator17

Жыл бұрын

@Harry but the flow of air matches that of the rb 18 if their floor is different it won't work as efficiently and would result in them not having even the 6th fastest car

@wiegraf9009

Жыл бұрын

They didn't really have this dialled in last season so the competition wouldn't have known about it.

Please make a video about 2009 australian "Lie-Gate" scandal ! That could be a awesome video I think !

Didn’t the “other” KZread channel make a similar video 5 days ago? “Autosport”

The interesting thing is that Red Bull extreme anti geometry goes against what you learn in vehicle dynamics. Extreme anti geometries are to be avoided bc they take grip away from the tire and in a pure mechanical (no aero) environment using heave springs are a much better form of pitch control than anti geometries because they are generally better for extracting grip from the tires. But when operating with such ride height sensitive cars the benefit of the increased pitch control results in more downforce and more grip. My guess is the Red Bull will struggle in low speed tight mechanical grip tracks like Monaco. Not saying they won’t win but I would expect their advantage to be reduced.

@stephen2282

Жыл бұрын

yea my thoughts exactly... this kinda does beg the question though (mostly because this is something that I have been wondering for a few days now), could it be possible to decouple things like bounce compliance and aggressive anti through the use of more sophisticated geometry, for instance by using a multi link setup as RB's used since 2020?

Newey’s point seems very logical. With ground effect derived downforce being the main downforce contributor & going over to the larger wheels (I believe with the smaller wheels something like half of the travel was in the tires themselves … at least at one point) putting a lot of focus on getting a really adept suspension setup seems like a very prudent move. Ofc these cars & their development process is so complex (plus the different types of corners *and* track surfaces they have to contend with) I’m sure there is a lot of over simplification going on. But the way Aston Martin has been effected recently by the change in tire construction seems to lend some credibility to my point

These are the videos that are great.... So over driver drama,my car isn't fast enough.

Suspension linked somehow let's not forget AN and when he was at Williams developed active suspension that is currently banned, so he's obviously found a loophole somewhere as the RB19 is almost level under nearly all conditions where it counts with the exception of low speed acceleration following a slow speed corner, but in all other conditions it's level, how they are doing this under the current regulations is anyone's guess but they are doing it

The best race car aerodynamacist in the biz.

AT not getting the suspension from RB is the worst decision they made

@brilliantbeaches5389

Жыл бұрын

No. AT must build their own car. Aston Martin can outsource many Mercedes parts, but AT cant, since the owner of the team is the same.

Looking at the upper arms seems it will add more front dive.

the rb 19 is harder to drive than other f1 cars, but if you get the right drivers its way faster than the others?

That all sounds cool and probably gives them an edge but imo, from what I observed watching all the onboards, I think it’s that the RB rides curbs much much better than any other car. I think the other drivers are very cautious about even just touching the curbs out of fear of losing ground effect. I think the point of rbs clever suspension isn’t to be clever and gain time through downforce, it’s so that the drivers can feel assured attacking curbs, or at the very least, if the go off line for whatever reason and need to touch the curbs, they won’t have fear of losing the car. This is what I believe makes the red bull faster over all. Qualifying deficit proves that the car isn’t actually the fastest iver one lap because over one lap a driver can afford to put all focus and attention on doing the perfect lap and avoiding curbs. Race situation is different and they aren’t going to be so confident. The Rb isn’t actually light years faster, it’s just more stable and gives the driver more confidence, as simple as that really. This is what I think anyway, I’m convinced of it but no one is talking about it. I think the Rb will get better and better at it and sometime later this season people will start noticing and this will become the talking point. I said it first 😊

@zerokool-2058

Жыл бұрын

Can’t lie this is a really good take, observation. I’ll be keeping an eye throughout the season.

moving aero and internal pully system that loosens as it goes faster

When Mercedes had the dominant car on the grid, the Media didn't look so interested into exposing why the car was so fast, or advocating for more competition.

@Mandykiss4500

Жыл бұрын

Well, 98% of F1 Media is British & they LOVE Mercedes because of Lewis…they have ALWAYS Hated Red Bull!

@samwlloyd

Жыл бұрын

Well there was a Engine freeze so no one could ever catch up to Merc for 8 years . Any team has the right to change there desighn each and every year now, just like AM did .Its a totally different scenario than the Merc 8 year "Snooze fest"

@aimanazrie8944

Жыл бұрын

Thank media coverage and the internet back then. There's no DTS so not many people are doing technical F1 contents, plus the access to internet is not good as it is now.

@aimanazrie8944

Жыл бұрын

​@@Mandykiss4500RBR is technically a British team though and the drivers back then were a German and an Australian 😂😂😂

@YoYo-tn5yj

Жыл бұрын

Because thet only had a good engine. Now everyone has good engine and Mercedes are losing

The wings, of course .

Another great video!

believe it or not the suspension is about aerodynamics, esp with ground effect

While i do agree the front tyres are harder to get on the right tyre temps. Only the redbull needed 1 lap to get te tyres on temp in the australian qualifying.

Very interesting...

It seems like the cost cap is just having more detrimental effects to the closeness of the racing rather than the other way around. Sure it's meant to bring the midfield closer to the front but it feels like this season is a complete wash already, if things turn out differently it will be a big big surprise. We shouldn't count our chickens too soon but if Max doesn't win nearly every race this season something big will have to have happened.

I've seen a couple videos addressing the Red Bull suspension but there is never discussion about the solid one piece forward connected wish bone (can't remember if it's top or bottom but I know they changed it for the new regs). I've searched and can't find a good explainer for this concept, it would be cool to hear a bit about that, how it works and why it's a benefit...

@stephen2282

Жыл бұрын

yea I remember autosport doing a thing on it back in 2020 when they RB switched to a multi link setup... cant find the article on it but I dont remember them saying much on it either as it was part of some report. I figure it might offer some quasi dampening characteristics. Ironically enough, it was done around the time that we heard RB was experimenting with some high caster setup that induced front end dive mid corner as the driver added steering lock. but yea you and I are in the same boat my friend

The Aston Martin obviously doesn't have the same suspension setup as the Red Bull, but it basically brought the same anti-dive angle in the 2023 car.

I hope Aston and Alonso have just been aiming to try and win Monaco, it’s the best chance it seems

Bro that haas tho...

I suspect the RB19 suspension has been tuned for better aero down force yet less aero resistance and that this tuning has made the car less pointy…so car is more Checo friendly, so he will definitely be closer to Max this year…unless Max’s car evolves like last year and Red Bull gives him some aggressive braking and pointy front back with little or no loss of gained aero stability and he goes even faster…like last year.

Evry element has to agree to each othere to produce a great package

If every team has one Adrian Newey , everyone would be competitive regardless of power unit

@NovaDaGoat

Жыл бұрын

Mercedes had it with Aldo Costa but he left because he wanted to spend more time with his family understandable

@gorastd4815

Жыл бұрын

To be competitive and to dominate its such different things

@quierover4locas

Жыл бұрын

Newey is just one person don't disregard the rest of the design engineers at Redbull. I know that liking Newey is like the latest trend, but him alone couldn't have done the whole job.

@NovaDaGoat

Жыл бұрын

@@quierover4locas true and that goes for any sports team in the past

@someonesch4361

Жыл бұрын

You can not cover up 50 hp deficiency with aero

cant wait to see the updates in BAKU !!!

this isn't that new information tho? during last season it was already mentioned that mercedes' suspension was too stiff which was one of the factors with the porpoissing and other performance gains where to be found there

I wonder whether the engineers of all the teams watch your videos to gain some knowledge haha

@samwlloyd

Жыл бұрын

EXACTLY LOL!!!!!!!! this is pure speculation but hey as long as we click on it "The Race" can feed you any bullsh@t

@zippo5294

Жыл бұрын

@@samwlloyd haha I’m genuinely curious, my guess is that they have access to privileged info to some degree. Maybe some engineers work for the channel as well?

Remember the prevailing thought going into last season was that Ferrari was going to run this suspension geometry... What if they had?

I believe the secret is on the floor !!

i really need to see these pull/push rods in action through a turn... there is verbiage describing "loads" and "forces" but i just can't picture it without a proper full animation. animagraffs pls help!

@joehutchisson3130

Жыл бұрын

F1TV just did a vid on that recently fwiw

@alveolate

Жыл бұрын

@@joehutchisson3130 yea i saw that one... not a big fan of the noisy setting at the f1 garage tho... but chain bear's explanation video was really good.

This is one of the best f1 tech videos i've ever seen. If this is more to come, I would definitely pay money for it.

It's crazy how Red Bull brought this in from Day 1 of the regulations and whilst everyone has been busy copying their sidepods and almost everything else about the car, no-one has decided to copy their suspension....

Newey is just a genius...

Yes it's true that Aston Martin takes parts from Mercedes. But they shouldn't be restricted to same rear pull rod suspension. As McLaren also uses Mercedes engine and push rod rear suspension.

In F1 there is always trade off for anything, I can’t imagine that other teams don’t know about this. Seems like stuff that they would find in basic testing, I’m thinking red bulls platform handles this suspension set up better, I would assume the other teams it’s more of a disadvantage than an advantage, especially when talking about tenths of a second it dosent take much to loose. So I will agree that Red Bull has made it work but I think that’s the issue is other teams know what they are doing red bull nusr executed It better and their chassis can handle it, if the other teams were to do it I assume they will loose more time than they would gain. And we already know every team has someone at least trying to figure out what Red Bull is doing if they are not already testing ideas from it.. it won’t last forever it never does.

I've always had the doubt on why always or almost always as fas a I know, if the front suspension is pull-rod, then the rear suspension is push-rod and viceversa. I think I have no seen cars that follows the same approach to both axes

@ua697

Жыл бұрын

MCL

@raencarve4

Жыл бұрын

@@ua697 McLaren uses similar config as RB, pull-rod in front and push-rod in the rear

@ua697

Жыл бұрын

@@raencarve4 I misunderstood your initial question 😎. AT and AR don't use pull-rod suspension.

The way he emphasized that its the "race's" and not... lol 0:22

What I don't understand is there were dozens of videos from multiple youtube channels that called out Red Bull's unique geometry st the beginning of last year. Why did no one pick up on it last year, especially, given they had one of the most stable cars even early on last year?

@EntropicExergy

Жыл бұрын

Probably because all teams focused on the skates that were visible on the underfloor when it was exposed after Perez' Monaco crash, fooled them all quite a bit.

@stephen2282

Жыл бұрын

Yea I mean it was massively talked about in 2020 when they switched to the fancy multilink suspension, but it was kinda overshadowed by mercs DAS. This year I guess its because they've gone even more aggressive than last year even as aggressive as they were (think they were and still run the most aggressive anti geometry). either that or these journalists are just ripping off each other

I'm routing for Checo. He's magic in the races, just needs to get his head around the qualies. Don't write him off yet.

Time to go make my own f1 car now

Wait wasn’t there a rule change this year with Tyre blankets to be removed. If there is someway to nerf Red Bull wouldn’t it be the removal of Tyre Blankets as their car would have to have some laps to build up front tyre grip.

@TheFulcrum2000

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No, not yet, but the max temperature of the blankets is reduced this year.

For both Ferrari and Mercedes to “admit defeat” and switch concepts due to having reached a local peak is significant news. For midfield, and especially backfield, teams, aping the best team and attempting to finish 4th or 5th is a W. The goal might not be to win the WC, but merely to improve as much as possible. Ferrari and Mercedes’s goal isn’t to be as high as possible, but rather to beat Red Bull. Ferrari and Mercedes, on the other hand, have a double incentive not to copy RB and hope that their local solution proves better. First, any team that copies another is bound to have growing pains, and they are chasing a moving target; while they attempt to do what RB currently does, RB can spend time improving it. Second, if they do stumble upon a better solution, other teams will try to copy it, meaning that the burden of catching up becomes your adversaries’. Abandoning core rival concepts is a big admission of failure, and takes courage. TLDR: copying RB is a great strategy for Aston Martin or Alfa Romeo, but is fundamentally problematic for RB’s rivals. That they are willing to do it is telling.

Basically, your trying to say this season is over, unless to drive a RB, and potential odd win by F, M or AM - sweet.