Lol!!............ I remember first time trying to hover OH-58 in Aeroscout Observer course. Crazy, thought I had it, then I didn't, then got worse............. Experience eventually wins out and you get better.

@HelicopterGround

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly! Thanks for commenting!

@ottoroth9377

4 жыл бұрын

More fun in a Huey UH1B

I ran across this video a year after you posted it. I'm a new helicopter student having had an intro flight lesson and 2 actual lessons. This is the first video I've seen of flying lessons which explains that you must move the cyclic stick back to neutral, (or center) again after an input in any direction. This is probably the greatest key to hovering that there is. I also fly RC helis like one of the people commented below. The same principle applies. Small inputs and then recenter the cyclic! And like you said, corrections are constant!

@HelicopterGround

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback!

@electricaviationchannelvid7863

Жыл бұрын

@@HelicopterGround I remember an interview with the Robinson designer and he admitted that his helicopters are not ideal and never were designed for training...(due to the strange control stick, rotor head...) It was designed for more like the utility use cases and the already experienced pilot ones... What is your take on that? Personally I do not like the idea of 2 blade tethering rotors on a helicopter vs. other designs...

@electricaviationchannelvid7863

Жыл бұрын

- On a conventional fixed wing it is sometimes more back than central because of the momentum...it is especially a factor with aerobatics... - I do not know helicopters. - On some modern fly-by wire systems it is almost only pressure and a very little movement or no moving stick...(Airbus,F-16,Gripen)...

Your poor hovering example is me all over. But your video gives me renewed hope. It's a very good video, thanks.

@HelicopterGround

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much M Haden!

Owned enstrom for 12 plus years , great helicopter learned to fly helicopters after I bought it . Ken

@HelicopterGround

4 жыл бұрын

Awesome thanks for sharing!

I had the fortune to sit next to a Naval test pilot in a Gazelle nearly 30 years ago. He said “would you like to try and hover”. “WOULD I” I replied. He said be gentle and pick an object outside to reference to. I tried so hard… I managed about 10 seconds before a very calm voice said “I have control” and the aircraft returned to an instantly stable motion. After about three sessions I was exhausted and he said “I think you’ve had enough”. I’m fortunate enough to have “tried” many differing modes of transport and without doubt that afternoon freebie trip in the Gazelle brought it home to me about the skill and finesse of all pilots. Great insightful video 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

@HelicopterGround

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback!

This is the best video I've seen on hovering technique. Fantastic!

@HelicopterGround

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it! Thank you!

You sir are an excellent instructor! I already feel confident for my first lesson on Monday!

@HelicopterGround

3 жыл бұрын

Wonderful!

Incredible video. You can see how subtle you have to be on the controls, even though at the moment, I’ve only tried the cyclic and pedals. The collective will be another feel, again. Thank you for your informative video, enjoying them very much!

@HelicopterGround

2 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Another great video Kenny, Thank you for helping us green pilots figure this out. We appreciate your work. Wish the Enstroms were more common here in the north west!

@HelicopterGround

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Daniel. We appreciate the positive comments.

Excellent job sir! Thank you for posting!

@HelicopterGround

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you David!

im around 10 hours into my course in an R44, my first time hovering was exactly like that swinging around haha, but now im starting to get used to thoose tiny inputs and learning to relax and not overthink it, watching this helped aswell to get another perspective and really see another person making those small adjustments thanks for the vid!

@HelicopterGround

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoy the videos. If you need help with ground training, visit www.helicopterground.com.

Your videos have been extremely helpful, I appreciate a great lot that you share your knowledge. Thank you

@HelicopterGround

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback!

Truth is... you're just wonderful with the way you instruct. Am apparently doing ground School on my own. Not enrolled anywhere, but when time is right, I'll go for it. Thanks for the video 👍

@HelicopterGround

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

I always love the Hovering videos. As I’ve stated when I first joined HOGS me and Hovering are Arch-Enemies in a Epic Battle. Thanks for another great video Kenny.

@HelicopterGround

4 жыл бұрын

Glad you like them! Thank you as always Clarence!

@Not-a-bot222

3 жыл бұрын

Did you find the hover button yet?

Absolutely fantastic vlog if I lived in your country I would come to you for lessons I love helicopters 🚁 and how they work and manoeuvre keep up your amazing hard work best regards and stay safe Mark from Billericay in the Uk 🇬🇧 👍👍

@HelicopterGround

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you Mark!

Outstanding video! Thank you!!

@HelicopterGround

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Amazing video. Thanks!

@HelicopterGround

5 ай бұрын

Thank you too!

I love this video! I've dreamt about flying helis for decades and this make me thing it's actually doable.

@HelicopterGround

7 ай бұрын

Go for it!

Great video. Years ago, while at Ft. Rucker, (before full flight simulators) this was how we learned, one control at a time. It would be worth to mention, that moving the collective too much while learning to hover, makes the over controlling even harder as moving the collective abruptly requires inputs to the cyclic and pedals simultaneously to stay in hover. It eventually becomes second nature that thinking about it doesnt even happen. Another initial mistake is to let the helicopter drift into the wind and getting the rotor disc into ETL. That will set up another over controlling situation. I miss beating the air into submission. My last flight was in an Eurocopter AS350B3 around 2013. Keep up the good work.

@HelicopterGround

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback

Thanks, Kenny! Can't wait to share this with a sub-5 hour student. It's interesting that it actually appears difficult for you to "mess it up!"

@HelicopterGround

4 жыл бұрын

Interesting take on me messing it up! Thanks Duane!

Excellent video. Many thanks.

@HelicopterGround

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Great video, Kenny.

@HelicopterGround

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback.

Excellent job

@HelicopterGround

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you 😎

Very enjoyable to watch... thank you...:)

@HelicopterGround

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you Lea!

Another insightful video Kenny and nice camera angle showing all 3 controls. My instructor told me he had difficult time hovering then he showing me with ease...could do it a little in my 2nd 1 hour in Schweizer but was difficulter in R22...my goal in next segment of training to be able to do it with ease and this video helps.

@HelicopterGround

4 жыл бұрын

Awesome Bruce keep after it you will get it!

@electricaviationchannelvid7863

Жыл бұрын

I remember an interview with the Robinson designer and he admitted that his helicopters are not ideal and never were designed for training...(due to the strange control stick, rotor head...) It was designed for more like the utility use cases and the already experienced pilot ones... What is your take on that? Personally I do not like the idea of 2 blade tethering rotors on a helicopter vs. other designs...

Great video,great instructor

@HelicopterGround

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍

I've actually discovered this being an RC pilot. Really small stick movements on all three controls seems to work best to keep in a hover. When you start to move that cyclic and collective a lot and fast you are going to be all over the place. Good vid, tnx for uploading.

@HelicopterGround

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing

Lots and lots of good suffs there! Thank you so much tor this tutorial video! Very nicely explained. ~Rm😀

@HelicopterGround

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Excellent... Excellent video!!!

@HelicopterGround

10 ай бұрын

Thank you very much!

So helpful thank you 🙏

@HelicopterGround

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for the feedback.

A grayhair WO told me many times. Flying helicopters slowly and hovering is about pressure on cpntrols, not motion.

@HelicopterGround

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the feedback!

Im learning to fly an Apache in DCS World (military sim for the pc) and this helped a lot.

@HelicopterGround

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the feedback!

I really love the Enstrom!

@HelicopterGround

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback!

Need to see more of this demo

@HelicopterGround

2 жыл бұрын

Thank You!

Just bought a helicopter ( I have PP in FW but 0 time in Helicopter) I cannot wait to start my training in it, thank for the info

@HelicopterGround

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for commenting.

That helps a lot!!

@HelicopterGround

8 ай бұрын

Thank you!

one of the best 👌

@HelicopterGround

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Thanks man👍

@HelicopterGround

3 жыл бұрын

Very welcome👍

That's just too cool.

@HelicopterGround

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@asihkusmiasih9036

4 жыл бұрын

@@HelicopterGround s4

amazing

@HelicopterGround

6 ай бұрын

Thanks

Awesome Kenny hope you are well. It looks fairly easy till you try it it's all about practice at the end of the day.is heather a pilot as well as you. Philip would love to have a go it looks so relaxing.take care and fly safe philip. 🚁

@HelicopterGround

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the feedback!

I like your video on flying a helicopter.

@HelicopterGround

4 ай бұрын

Thanks!

I cant affort styding/ but I dream" and I am flying msfs 2020, and your lessons helps alot)) thanks)))

@HelicopterGround

11 ай бұрын

That's great!

Fascinating 🙂🙂

@HelicopterGround

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks

hi sir I have the same problem however I triad my best unfortunately still I have this problem I hope after watching this video I would able to do my best performance thanks for your best explaining

@HelicopterGround

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you stay after it you will get it!

Hahahaha it was SO funny how You describe how a typical new Pilot would handle the collective Greetings from Venezuela, thats My dream job i hope i Will accomplish it in Canadá this starting this year.

@HelicopterGround

5 ай бұрын

Awesome thank you!

Very useful info

@HelicopterGround

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you think so!

@johnswick4593

2 жыл бұрын

@@HelicopterGround No problem. I've only flown a rotary wing a few times, so anything I learn on the ground is better than mistakes in the air.

Great video. One thing that I’m trying to understand is why do you make small up and down movements on the collective instead of just leaving it in one spot when you’re hovering?

@HelicopterGround

2 жыл бұрын

All controls are getting slight changes through the entire flight. The helicopter is very unstable. Every control input you make affects another control.

@jbotnik

2 жыл бұрын

@@HelicopterGround thank you for the explanation!

Only helicopter I've ever flown was a simulated one in DCS world, but it's decently hard to do and I couldn't imagine doing it IRL under the pressure of actually being in danger if you do for some reason crash.. I want to eventually get my pilots license probably for a heli, but that'll come in the future when I have the funds to do so.

@HelicopterGround

Жыл бұрын

Thank You!

Thanks for the hover lesson, may I ask if it’s allowed to rest your heels on the floor and use just the toes to control the pedals? Kind of hard to tell from the video

@HelicopterGround

Жыл бұрын

Controlled with foot.

This makes great sense, thank you. Can anyone estimate how many hours to get from "ugly" to "pretty good"? Thanks again

@HelicopterGround

2 жыл бұрын

Depends on many factors.

I was never able to afford flying lessons. I did get where I could hover my RC helicopter steady as rock though, which insanely difficult.

@HelicopterGround

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for commenting.

I am curious, if you input say cyclic to the left and hold it will the rate of left drift remain constant or will the rate continue to increase until the cyclic is neutralized? I hope I explained my question properly, not that familiar with helicopter lingo yet.

@HelicopterGround

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah hard to explain. You have to counteract the movement, then push back the opposite direction a small amount to avoid the pendular action. As stated in the video. Thanks for commenting!

@jimbeck3230

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Kenny!

it almost looked like ground resonance starting just as you came light on skids but it stopped as soon as you lifted off as that is how to avoid it is by lifting off again

@HelicopterGround

4 жыл бұрын

Enstroms have that bounce characteristic. It is not ground resonance.. The uh-1H huey has a slight bounce as well.

@jamesringler987

3 жыл бұрын

@@HelicopterGround how is the b206 for ground resonance

I had my 3rd hovering mission today and i am unable to control it! Is there a need to use the trim in hover or should i first learn with the cyclic? Your response will be highly appreciated sir

@HelicopterGround

4 ай бұрын

The sooner you learn to use the trim the better.

Hey Kenny ! I'm using a simulator (Xplane 12), and if i try small inputs, it doesn't even do anything ! like, i juste want to take off, hovering a little. then i put some left-rudder to compensate the torque when adding collective. and i need to compensate on cyclic part to prevent but if i do small control inputs, nothing's happening (i feel a little ignored there 🥲), i can't compensate any force. then naturally i do bigger and bigger inputs (like you demonstrate in the video lol), dans then it is impossible for me to hover. what can i do ? 'cos for now, xplane is just what i have to practice. maybe one day i'll find a way to apply in a school but it is not the day for now.

@HelicopterGround

5 ай бұрын

Hopefully someone with more recent home simulator can help you out. I haven't used them since I was training as a private pilot well over 20 years ago!

Almost looked like ground resonance starting on that first liftoff!

@DerickMasai

3 жыл бұрын

Thought so as well.

@cricri7066

3 жыл бұрын

@@DerickMasai I watched a few more videos and he does say that the Enstrom does have a small shake on pickup that isn't actual ground resonance. It would be good if he chimes in here and clarifies the shake.

@HelicopterGround

2 жыл бұрын

It's normal Enstrom Shake. Almost every Enstrom shakes like that! It's just part of it!

Are you still doing on line courses

@HelicopterGround

7 ай бұрын

Yes all located at www.helicopterground.com

😊😊😊😊😊💃💯🔥👍🏾so interesting 🔥

@HelicopterGround

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching

Bello F28

@HelicopterGround

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for commenting.

Ahhhhhhhh!!!

@HelicopterGround

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for commenting.

Im a fixwing pilot IRL i havnt tried helicopter 😢 i should have took rotary in my flying career

@HelicopterGround

7 ай бұрын

Thanks for the feedback

How much does it cost to learn to fly a helicopter?

@HelicopterGround

3 жыл бұрын

Approximately 20,000

MI

@HelicopterGround

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback!

@stancotton4778

Жыл бұрын

Spent many sweaty, frustrating hours trying to whoop that old Army Hiller OH-23D in to shape. It kicked my butt for 15 hours and the light finally came on. Challenging, but worth it !!!! Put in over 3,000 hours in four years. At first I couldn't keep it inside 2 football fields, if it wasn't so frustrating it would have been comical. Enjoy your learning experience. It's a new career!!

what if we sneeze in there !! Great Video Though

@HelicopterGround

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

The smaller the movement, the less pendulum action. It would be nice to try.

@HelicopterGround

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback!

@messianichebrewshawnkawcak1550

2 жыл бұрын

@@HelicopterGround are there discovery flights for helicopters?

😊👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

@HelicopterGround

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for commenting.

if you can balance a beach ball on your nose while riding a unicycle, you can fly a helicopter.

@HelicopterGround

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for commenting!

Kenny, do you shave your legs?

@HelicopterGround

9 ай бұрын

No what the hell kind of question is that

y'all really be out there saying stuff like "oh yeah I bought an helicopter last week, this is great supporting material" I always knew flying is a rich people hobby but damn, didn't know there's so many millionaires out there... I'm betting my future on a CPL as in I either go pro or go homeless, what does it feel like to be able to just buy one of mankind's greatest technological wonders just because you like them?

@HelicopterGround

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for commenting.

@Scott2817

2 жыл бұрын

Boy, do I agree with your comment about being rich enough to buy a helicopter!!!!!!

Why don’t you practice on the grass? No vehicles to worry about.

@HelicopterGround

3 жыл бұрын

Solid smooth surface is best when available.