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@kingshadow8782

Ай бұрын

Cool.

@kingshadow8782

Ай бұрын

Welcome back!

@variant

Ай бұрын

@@kingshadow8782 Thanks!

@marknat72

Ай бұрын

Can you guys do characters that could beat Superman in a 1v1 fight

@Vibranium_man

Ай бұрын

​@@variantcan you do a video about can a lightsaber cut Captain America's shield?

The three mental states of the Joker should have been "The Three Jokers." The idea that there are three different physical Jokers has always struck me as a ridiculous idea.

@CZPC

Ай бұрын

I would have accepted they were mental until a cosmic something or other made it three separate ones even, atleast in comparison to what we got.

@BrandonCrAzYyt

Ай бұрын

The 3 different Jokers idea is fine (imo) cause real life has a bunch of copycat killers, but the whole made by some dude who wanted to be the Joker is stupid as hell.

@agreen3127

21 күн бұрын

Agreed....it's shit writing

@matthewbennett1972

16 күн бұрын

I feel like the best origin for the Joker is that he is just one of Nyarlathoteps avatars

“If I’m going to have a past I’d prefer it’d be multiple choice.”

@user-zn4sr1ll1c

18 күн бұрын

"Then I guess it's time to implement process of elimination" ✍️ -Batman "No fair batsy, that one was a classic!"

There's a big thing about some of the art in this being AI and it looks pretty clear on that crucifix picture.

@rface0

Ай бұрын

Catwoman in this also looks just like marvel's Black Cat, which no human artist would mistake the two like that. Very obviously AI was used in this and it's every bit as lazy and stupid as you'd think it would be.

His mystique and sense of horrid wonder peaked with Scott Snyder's run; where it was suggested he may be immortal and/or some kinda of entity but ever since they've been determined to give him a backstory and it's just killing his character. He isn't supposed to have a concrete backstory and anything suggested is simply that... SUGGESTED.

The Red Mask stuff honestly fucking sucks. Now the Joker is a multiverse based character? They need to stop with these retcons.

@HermannTheGreat

Ай бұрын

They're out of creativity and the new people have minimal talent.

@Gadget-Walkmen

Ай бұрын

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@HermannTheGreatTheir NOT “oUt oF cReAvTiViYy” AT ALL just because people don’t like this one storyline at all that which they made and this new people they have DO have a lot of talent. It’s just that this wasn’t done in the way that people would like, that’s it!

@ElimGarakSpoonHead

Ай бұрын

@@Gadget-WalkmenHope she sees this bro 👍

@Gadget-Walkmen

Ай бұрын

@@ElimGarakSpoonHead Whose "she"?

@youngmerc7717

Ай бұрын

@@Gadget-Walkmennah it just fucking sucks, nobody cares about this.

Why do writers think that a character like Joker NEEDS an explanation or backstory? To me, it’s FAR more terrifying that you don’t know what makes something tick. Once theres a backstory, you understand a character’s logic and therefore know how best to defeat them. I always liked the fact that Joker was always the worst threat in the room by his mere presence in it. One day, he wants to make fish smile for a laugh, the next day, he’s putting together an insanely complex plan that comes very close to succeeding. Indicating a deep level of intelligence to him and puts him in the CRAZY but not STUPID section of villain. I say, keep him a wild card he was always meant to be.

@gohanson27

Ай бұрын

This is not canon to me. Trash writers stories gets erased from canon

@masterrserch3971

Ай бұрын

It's a great story, as much as I also didn't want it. I take it for what it is, and a surprisingly well written story that I thought would suck. But that's all I give it. Canon or not, it's not even registering as the proverbial "my head canon." It just is what it is,,and I'll always enjoy a cool tale as much as I don't wanna see it. Hey.... if anything, we all know deep down that they'll eventually write another story that will change, retcon, or fully dismiss this at some point, no?? 😂😂😂

@abp_gvo_2275

Ай бұрын

Can't agree when everything could be a lie made by the joker even pretending and lying to us

@mrpitman5496

Ай бұрын

I agree the whole point of the joker being scary is he could be anyone.

@abp_gvo_2275

Ай бұрын

@@mrpitman5496 I don't know why yall bothered even with this story we still don't know what's a lie fr and how would joker be better without a back story?

I like it when badass characters like The Joker are introduced with no origin story. People in charge be doing the most, certain things need to be left alone.

The more you add to the joker the less he is the joker from pure chaos who no-one understands to someone who's has just as much structure as batman but hides it under a illusion of insanity.

The Killing Joke will always be the definitive origin to me. It's simple, straightforward, and tragic, while also being inexplicable, eerie, and, above all, ambiguous. We question whether any of it really happened, because the Joker doesn't know either. They really should just leave it at that.

This is why Nolan's version of Joker is the best. There's just enough clues left for you to think you know what's going on, but enough left turns to completely throw that out and leave the mystery in tact.

I like the idea of the Joker having multiple possible origins and nobody knows which one is true, including him. This direction would also mean Joker has no clue of the meaning behind Jason going as Red Hood, and I find that funny.

Joker has more origins than the Duggar family has kids.

@madnessman1520

Ай бұрын

I think that's the interesting part of the character that they give him so many origin stories that it's impossible to know which one is true. I don't think he should have an origin story, I think his whole character is that he's so mysterious. So I don't mind writers trying to give him an origin story as long as its never actually cannon

@benparrish672

Ай бұрын

​@@madnessman1520 Joker's origin is a lil of all of his origins & so much more. Joker definitely wasn't as much of a "One Bad Day" case as The Killing Joke portrayed. The Joker was definitely a part of the criminal underworld before the Ace Chemicals break-in. I think Joker was pulling a (The Usual Suspects) Keiser Sosei storytelling move.

@swallowedinthesea11

Ай бұрын

The two oldest Duggar sisters are pretty hot!

@FliCityBoi_810Gaming

29 күн бұрын

In every DC multiverse there exists a Joker some good some bad

The art of Batman in the future kinda looks like Batfleck

@davidrobinson1737

Ай бұрын

It also looks like Christian bale, wasn’t this the one where people thought it was AI?

@matthewtorres6532

Ай бұрын

Because he 100% used screen caps of Batfleck

@Swerv0.

Ай бұрын

@@davidrobinson1737yeah this is the one that got a lot of backlash for allegedly being ai.

They need to stick to the origin they had of him in batman the animated series mask of the phantasm that was perfect

@ComicBookGuy420

Ай бұрын

That entire animated movie was great

@Kinetic_King

Ай бұрын

@ComicBookGuy420 it sure was second only to x-men the animated series but batman the animated series actually made several characters that was so great they actually put them in the comics the biggest being the joker's ex girlfriend Harley Quinn

@ComicBookGuy420

Ай бұрын

@@Kinetic_King Batman, Spidey, and X-Men TAS were all great, and yeah Batman was for sure the best of the lot, I also enjoyed Batman Beyond for a different take on the characters

There's so many different "smartest man in the world" when it comes to comics. It reminds me of all of the game of the year awards that come out.

The only thing that would be icing on this is if it was revealed that the Joker’s real name isn’t Jack Oswald White, but Carl Gerhard Busch. Auditory virus… that’s Chichester/black suit Daredevil-levels of bad.

Fascinating story. The Killing Joke is the best. The "Pale man" myth from Endgame was good too, creepy and eye opening.

I honestly don't mind this at all. The Joker narrative always reminds me of Rody Piper's classic quote. "Just when you think you have the answers, I change the questions." The story made sense out of some things while still making me wonder who he is

@ComicBookGuy420

Ай бұрын

Piper still rules

@benparrish672

Ай бұрын

​@@ComicBookGuy420 Roddy Piper has even fought aliens.

@ComicBookGuy420

Ай бұрын

@@benparrish672 They live, still one of my favourite movies Hell comes to frogtown was another b grade piper special

batman said 'even though i hate you' , it isn't the reason, so batman did not make it as an excuse he said that even though he hated the joker enough that he wanted to kill him he let him live because of his moral code

@adamlegros1180

21 күн бұрын

Exactly. Though technically because Joker WANTS to be killed by him, Bruce hating him so much that he refuses to give him that one wish, is a thing too.

Not, another origin story. Why can't comics just stick to one?

@MrStupidarmy

Ай бұрын

Because it wasn't manga haha.

@blackhand441

Ай бұрын

It's the same new origin. Now they are explaining it.

@chrismorgan4298

Ай бұрын

M.o.n.e.y

I know a lot of people in the comment section are mad because they're defining the joker's origin more and more, and I can understand - a large part of his appeal and effect was the fact he seemed to come from nowhere, that he is someone with no past and no explanation for his actions; but personally? Personally I love it when we get to see into character's pasts. And even this series doesn't commit to important details 100%, like, who is Sally? What parts of the Joker are still "real?" Is that fear and humanity still in him somewhere? Or did Dr. Daniel truly help crush them entirely? Did the joker trick Daniel? Or did he just let his madness take over? What I'm getting at is that it gives us the events, and even gives us internal thoughts, but everything is just out-of-line and vague enough to make you wonder: "What was the real story here?"

I love the 1989 green joker bag has relevance even to this day in age

Remember what the Joker said in "The Killing Joke": If I'm going to have a past, I prefer for it to be multiple choice! And...which one of the three was this? Still plenty of mysteries.

Yeah, after reading/catching up with the latest Batman story arcs, the one thing that still bugs me about Red Mask (alongside every other similar villain like him) is that why would anyone in any universe would WILLINGLY WANT to become The Joker?!🃏

@ed765super

Ай бұрын

Its that freedom and commanding presence he has. Same reason harley was in love for some time and why punchline follows him now.

@ComicBookGuy420

Ай бұрын

​@@ed765super did you ever read what he did to the entire room full of Harley's that didn't work out? She wasn't the first

@ed765super

Ай бұрын

@@ComicBookGuy420 I've only recently started getting into comics. What story is that?

@ComicBookGuy420

Ай бұрын

@@ed765super Death of the family Joker kidnaps all the members of the bat family If you're looking for joker reading material, it's brutal but one of the best modern graphic novels I've read (I usually read older books)

@ComicBookGuy420

Ай бұрын

@@ed765super I don't know why my comment featuring the title keeps getting removed It was written by Scott Snyder and features Joker kidnapping most of the bat family Should make it easy for you to find

After the 3 jokers debacle, I clicked only because I’m curious about the new trainwreck. You don’t define the Joker. Stop it yall. A part of who he is comes from the ambiguity of his chaos

@mechmaster315

Ай бұрын

Don’t insult Chip Zdarsky

@canis2020

Ай бұрын

Preach. He is nothing without the unknowns.

@purplespark8

Ай бұрын

The concept of 3 jokers is pretty... dumb

@quentinfogger5755

Ай бұрын

Don't understand why the comic book produces created three Jokers cause they would be powerful if they worked with each other

@stitchintime626

Ай бұрын

I love the idea of several Jokers because it encourages the idea and dichotomy of Batman and Joker. The whole "it only takes one bad day" thing

This is like a background story of the great Heath Ledger's Joker in the Nolanverse

@ComicBookGuy420

Ай бұрын

he kept changing them though, the joker wasn't meant to have a clear origin

So basically he's batman with prep time times two but in the The most sadistic mind set that has ever existed in comics. 😰

Top 5 unnecessary joker origins

If i had a penny for everytime DC editorial decide to retcon joker's origin yet again

They'll retcon it again in a year or two.

@KadeStringer2.0

Ай бұрын

Not true

@Nitemerican

Ай бұрын

@@KadeStringer2.0History says otherwise.

@ComicBookGuy420

Ай бұрын

DC used to retcon once roughly every 11 years, now they do it frequently as a marketing tool

Tbh I'm not enjoying when DC explains Joker's origin as I liked it when he was just chaotic and we never truly knew what he was

You do the most thorough explanations of anybody on comic books

@TheFearcards

Ай бұрын

Idk man he is pretty good but you ever heard of the Rob corps??

Dr. Daniel seems like a real shit character

The Joker is 6'5" & 191lbs in canon. Artists seem to forget to depict The Joker taller than Batsy in the art. J's speed & length have been noted many times, by Batman's inner dialogue as 2 of the main reasons why The Joker is a formidable H2H CQC opponent for Batman.

What if Rain was forced into the cyber program, and afterwards he called himself Hydro? Then alter his moves slightly

Why, joker having no clear origin always added something to the character, just more proof both companies are out of ideas

@aceloco817

Ай бұрын

Seriously. Why tf did they have to incorperate that mutiverse bullshit? Lazy writing.

@ComicBookGuy420

Ай бұрын

@@aceloco817 Proof they're out of ideas, they figured multiverse is popular now, let's do that A monkey throwing darts at ideas could come up with something better

@ComicBookGuy420

Ай бұрын

@@aceloco817 my thoughts exactly

I think my opinion differs from the vast majority of the people in the comment section. I love when writers, try new things. Win or lose, they give the next generation writers and artists something new to get their own creative spin too. For example look at Zur en arrh, in the original comic it was a goofy alien, look what modern writers were able to do with that character in Batman failsafe (no spoilers).

I must say i liked the batfleck and batbale design aspects that kept going back and forth with each turn of the page

Batman did have the better argument. He let him live because he hates him and Batman doesn’t give in to hate.

Love the art

Joker has as many origins as there are kids in children of the corn lol

Dope hat fam 🤙🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽🤘🏽

"i'm the smartest man in the world and i trained the joker to be the joker." uhhhhh.....ok? i don't know how i feel about that one, DC

The best part is, this then leads into Batman: Brave and the Bold story by Tom King, telling the story of Batman’s first encounter with the joker and you can tell that persona was death, because of the art style on the eyes

14:59, that Batman looks like Batfleck

The "3 Jokers State" still reminds me of what the doctor said about him in the Comic Arkham Asylum, the deemed him to have a sort of Super Sanity.

Ty

In how many years will his origin story be tied to the Lords of Chaos? I give it 10 years.

I don't mind people going back to his origin if it means they can make it more confusing. Then we literally will have multiple choices for how he could have come to be But we shouldn't make it a habit. It's starting to feel like they're about to try and redeem him like in the white knight universe

@pickedceasar1216

Ай бұрын

Also the ai art in some of those comics is really annoying

Maaaaan these origin stories are so complicated. Why cant they just leave the Joker's origin unknown? that makes him better imo

As much as i dont like DC continuously trying to expand more and more on Joker's backstory I do think him being "trained" to perfect his craziness, specifically the "Three Jokers" actually being different manufactured personalities was honestly a good idea. Kinda wish this was the case instead of there being three actual jokers.

The irony from every DC writer is nobody realizes the Joker is trying to save Batman by being blunt as possible.

How long till you do history of the Thunderbolts and the Young Avengers since they're slowly forming in the MCU?

How's this origin story of the Joker as good as or better than the previous one?

Bearded Mr. J looks sick!

stopped to read some dc product ages ago when common sense in characters were long gone. gladly and sadly i see i miss nothing good.

Hey Variant! 9 months ago you gave us their first encounter in the brave and the bold series but didn't continue after issue 2. Can we get the full story on that? Please and thanks!👍

@pyrojack8230

Ай бұрын

Why not pick up the issue from your local comic shop? It's a lot quicker than waiting a few more months, even if the comic shop has to custom order the issue.

@matduesdieker3001

Ай бұрын

Unfortunately where I'm from I don't have a local comic shop. Nearest one is 2 hours away

This was sweet.

Please just stop trying to rational the joker origin, the whole point of the joker origin is the ambigious nature of who he was and what drove him mad, trying to explain his origin only ruin the mystique of joker

Can you do history of the Elementals, Cyclone and Sandman along with Kurt Conners the Lizard, Rhino, Chameleon, Scorpion and the Human Fly along with the Tinkerer, Alistair Smythe the Ultimate Spider Slayer, Living_Brain, and Prowler?

Since you did the history of Midnight Man, Are you going to do history of other Moon Knight villains like Arthur Harrow, Shadow Knight, Bushman, the Zodiac Cartel, Stained Glass Scarlet, Moon_Shade and the Sun-King?

Dc should never have given joker a origin or name. It was so much better before that you never knew who he was or what he did before becoming the joker.

@kwayneboy1524

Ай бұрын

Eh the red hood origin has been the canon one but they keep the origin largely the same.

So how long till you do history of Arno_Stark Iron Man, Ezekiel Stane, Titanium Man, Crimson Dynamo, Whiplash, War Machine and Pepper Potts AKA Rescue?

1:51 First Black Mask, then Red Mask!!! What's next: Blue Mask????

The idea that the Joker could have won at any time is bollocks. All luck and no hope is what I'm getting from this...

When are you going to do history of Clea, America-Chavez, Speed and Wiccan in honor of the release of Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness?

The storyline was great

Ha e and love that shirt!

Damn I never clicked this fast

I need these issues as soon as possible

@variant

Ай бұрын

Definitely worth the read.

@Beymaster20247

Ай бұрын

It does everything right answers questions but still leaves a lot of mystery as well as have good reason and to top it all off tells a great story as well

It kinds makes sense ngl for an else worlds story

I'm not sure how I feel about this arc, but the art is beautiful, especially the joker in the future, he looks so creepy, straight out of a horror movie

Sure this is a pretty well written story and I like 1-2 parts of it. But with Darkside War saying that there’s 3 Jokers, to The 3 Jokers, to this story, I don’t need an official backstory/history of the Joker. Just keep his past a mystery. Keep people guessing/questioning it. Also I wasn’t wild about the art of the story or jumping back and forth from the past and the future.

Batman was actually saying that he gave Joker a pass because of his morals even though he could have already impaled him with an explosive batarang to the dome

Batman said he's "So damn old?" The guy has been 30 years old for the last 60 years. 🤣🤣

5:30 wait. I thought new 52 doesnt exist anymore and that it was a universe made by reed's son or something

How long will this Origin stand before they change it?

Can you guys do characters that could beat Superman in a 1v1 fight

oh Chip, you were doing so well too

I still prefer the first Three Jokers story. What I mean is now that the first story is now an alternate time. Though the new stories in Batman gives us an origin story and an explanation on how there are three joker’s. Still wish they continued the first one though because of the fact that Joker has a son and plus the story of between Jason and Barbara.

I know its comics but wow this origin is convoluted AF

joker saying to batman you are washed batman saying nuh uh

Clicked faster than my grades declining in highschool

@SkinwalkerClub

Ай бұрын

Same bruh

@kennyobi9871

Ай бұрын

Lmao mood

I love how this is very clearly Ben Affleck 😂

What was wrong with him just being a killer clown?

One thing that I will never understand is why people get so upset when you try to give the joker an origin story he is not an alien he is a human being so obviously something made him the way that he is the thing that I don't understand is by saying his past is ambiguous and you just boil it down to the joker is crazy and that's it it makes him less interesting because then it just begs the question why doesn't Batman just put him down there's nothing to reason with but when you add the element but there is reason behind the madness now there is a sliver of hope as to the Batman being able to change the joker or save him which gives reason to why Batman never just puts him down

How long before, like any good Joker story, this one is retconned or changed to "... from a certain point of view"?

Whenever i see batman and joker working together, there like DCs version of deadpool and wolverine

@ComicBookGuy420

Ай бұрын

Not at all, Wade and Logan may not necessarily like eachother, but mutual respect and common goals can allow them to work together Joker is obsessed with Batman, and Bruce just wishes joker would disappear, but can't bring himself to kill him

comedy comes in 3s

First! Love your chanal

I’m now confuse, three jokers are they split personalities of joker or are the three jokers actually three separate people? I seen the three jokers three mini issues spoilers two of the jokers die and only one live to prove that joker were the original one. I think the joker who won the original fight after getting the chemical is the same joker who didn’t die in the three joker mini story.

I want to see Joker vs Freddy Krueger. A recipe for bloody comedy.

Smartest man in the world? Mr. Holt and Mr Luthor would like to have a few words with you...

@telall

Ай бұрын

I agree with you he is also self-proclaimed

Isn’t this the comic that used AI????

It's interesting when you think about it. Joker has always been trying to create new Jokers. Even Batman beyond he tried to turn Robin into a joker. Batman The killing joke. He tries to turn commissioner Gordon into a joker one bad day

Variant nation for life ❤

@variant

Ай бұрын

🤘

Nice

ohhhh brother

How long till you do history of Alfred Pennyworth since you did history of all the other Batman related characters?

@racheljackson4428

Ай бұрын

WE NEEDED A POISON IVY VIDEO!