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@Wakobear.

2 ай бұрын

Could you cover the training system and army of the Mamluk Sultanate. Since it was one of the most professional and effective militaries in the entire medieval world, besting both Mongols and crusaders (Until the chaos after anNasir Muhammad, afterwhich it became a failed state...)

@Mr_St_Lazarus-1099

2 ай бұрын

Thx so much

@Mr_St_Lazarus-1099

2 ай бұрын

Veneto

@DrKarmo

2 ай бұрын

The video was great, do you guys plan on covering the Italian Wars or portuguese history? They had some stuff going on in india and also their war of independence from spain

@user-wj1kg8qo3p

2 ай бұрын

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The janissaries were a double-edged weapon. This is what gave the Ottoman a superiority against European and Middle Eastern mamluk, Safavid, and aq qoyunlu but after it was the janissaries and their corruption who blocked any change to modernization and Ottomans found themselves bypassed by European

@aether3697

2 ай бұрын

Agreed, but I think they're more like a chef's knife: effective, wieldy and safe when sharp, but can cut you when otherwise From what I've read so far, by the time they became less effective is when they were more corrupted. They lowered the standards for recruitment to keep recruiting, became traders and married(which is forbidden, but they did later on anyway), they don't have much wars to loot and pillage from, so they started extorting money and bullying anyone beneath them. I've read that some higher status janissaries refuse to go to war(this was around 18th to early 19th century)

@RehanQawai-rj7vm

2 ай бұрын

what modernization ??? 😅 This is simply a systematic imitation of Western tyranny, classism, and extravagance Keep in mind that this time was not during the reign of Sultan Mahmoud II, but rather a century earlier during the reign of Ahmed I, when he began to exhaust the state treasury by building French-style palaces and amusement parks... This is what will lead to popular anger and the movement of the elites and the army, and about decades later, the outbreak of the french revolution. and out on the royal family

@ivanivanovic5586

2 ай бұрын

Sultans, at least some of them, saw the corruption and tried to reform/disband them, like sultan selim III, who was quickly deposed, and mahmoud II, who succeeded to disband them. Some fled to then-Bosnian eyalet, which was sort-of attempting to gain autonomy(under husein-bey captain of gradačac) and reinstate at least some of the privileges the former/retired jannisaries had. Ofc sultan was having none of either and put a swift end on that bit of bosnian history.

@shergy1000

2 ай бұрын

It was always an archaic system of governance. Just look at how a new Sultan came to power. Lots of brothers and family members were quickly disposed of before any opposition could compete for control. They were a very efficient war machine with vast numbers and used the most modern equipment. Give credit where credits due. Like every great empire before and after they began to rest on their laurels, IMO. The rot always comes from within.

@gustavosanches3454

2 ай бұрын

The problem was that the Ottomans decided to expand and bloat the Janissaries instead of being a niche elite force indocrinated since childhood to be completely subservient to the sultan.

*Elite guards become corrupted and start threatening emperor Roman : Hey, I seen this one before.

@taylannurlu7430

28 күн бұрын

Memluks were also the same

After the acclaimed Kingmakers: Praetorian Guard, comes another smash hit from Empires That Ruled Over Constantinople: Kingmakers 2: Janissaries. Watch as yet another elite group of soldiers morphs from royal guards into a royal pain in the ass.

@user-rt6jj8lj6g

2 ай бұрын

laughed hard on this one.

@majorkalashinikov1277

2 ай бұрын

Kingmakers 3, the Varangian guard crowned and uncrowned any Byzantine emperor who didnt go along with their whims

@user-rt6jj8lj6g

2 ай бұрын

@@majorkalashinikov1277 nice effort but doesnt pack the punch of the OC

In kazakh they are called jana seri, which means "new knight", because seri in our language means elite soldier or knight in medieval analogy.

@osmanerdogdu7868

2 ай бұрын

And in Turkish they are called Yeniçeri, Yeni is Jana, and Çeri is Seri. Anatolian Turkish to Kazakh

Ottomans to Christian boys:Want some candy kid?

@lolasdm6959

2 ай бұрын

Pisst.... Kid, want to fight for the sultan?

@CypherDVoid

2 ай бұрын

Hey little boy, would you like some Turkish delights?

@willfakaroni5808

2 ай бұрын

Ottoman:I will let you drink two cups of Uludağ

@antokarman2064

2 ай бұрын

"Hey kids, wanna be a part of the shadow government?"

@nicbahtin4774

2 ай бұрын

Hay kid do you love my hat ? Do you want wear one ?

Its very interesting how both the Janissaries and the Knights Templar in Europe were both destroyed when their respective leaders saw them as threats. The Knights Templar were massacred by the orders of King Philip IV (France) & Pope Clement V.

@osmanerdogdu7868

2 ай бұрын

Except, Templars were never a part of palace coup :) An actual similar situation was Russian Streltsy

@ufem2159

2 ай бұрын

And janissaries were massacred by the orders of Mahmud the Second in 1826 and their order was abolished. Search "Auspicious Incident" for more details.

@vorynrosethorn903

2 ай бұрын

The Templars were wealthy bankers, what happened to them followed that model. The popes predecessor have been beaten resulting in injuries leading to death by the King's men for refusing to go along with the plan, so he decided to make good on it, and then secretly pardoned the Templars afterwards. The Templars were never corrupted even if the mystery has fuelled rumours and fiction of that sort, they went to death martyrs to the avarice of a king of France.

@juniorjames7076

2 ай бұрын

@vorynrosethorn903 There were levels of corruption among the Templars just like any institution. Drop your sunday school Catholic propaganda! Lol

@MyVanir

2 ай бұрын

@@juniorjames7076 Yes, but they were not a satanic cult of goatee-wearing, cackling villains with goat legs, like propaganda painted them as. There was not much difference between them and the Italian banking families by that time.

the times of the janissaries were very cruel, but man, the Ottoman empire, for all its glory and ingenuity, made cruelty a substantial part of its system.

@gurkeschurke6667

2 ай бұрын

For you it’s cruel for others it’s pragmatic.

@VigilantGuardian6750

2 ай бұрын

if they were that cruel they wouldn't last over 5 centuries, the cruleler and more unjust system the less it will last as shown by history, Ottomans obviously weren't that bad unless you are some softie westerner seeing turks as monsters cause they arent white

@gustavosanches3454

2 ай бұрын

@@gurkeschurke6667those are not mutually exclusive

@elguerojusticiero

2 ай бұрын

for sure cruelty and terror were pillars of the empire. the mongol influence was strong. also western culture is heavily influenced by jesus christ so our tolerance for straight up evil is much lower than other places. when you read how the comanche killed and tortured jesuit missionsries, sometimes over years, makes you wonder if Godless heathen was more warning than insult

@matthewbutts2062

2 ай бұрын

​@@VigilantGuardian6750 I suppose you're one of these people who excuse and brush off Imperiaism and war crimes when the perpeturater isn't white? The Ottomans were just cruel and evil as any European Empire.

Slavers rolling into town, forcing a tithe of children for future soldiers.... Damn. Warhammer 40k strikes again.

Another great video! The only part I wish you included was about the intense rivalry between the Ottoman Sipahis and the Janissary Corps.

@lolasdm6959

2 ай бұрын

by design, I imagine.

@tatarcavalry2342

2 ай бұрын

It started later and I also wonder why not anybody thinking Janissaries were infantry because it's harder to flee as infantry and it's less prestigious to be infantry in most of the cultures so that prestige went to mostly ethnic Turk Sipahis

@tatarcavalry2342

2 ай бұрын

There is a Turkish proverb goes as: Atlı er baş kaldırmaz. Meaning cavalry don't rebel that is also a diss to Janissaries

@stehfreejesseah7893

2 ай бұрын

@@tatarcavalry2342 Cause one had horses and one didn’t.

@gurkeschurke6667

2 ай бұрын

It would distract from the intention of the video, which is to appeal to the turkophobic audience.

As a bulgarian fan of your channel I can't express my gratitude for you stopping to mention our viewpoint on the jannisaries,I have seen no other historian do so.My deepest thanks

It looks like the Russian 16th-century tactic was a copy of the Ottoman's one. Especially the use of wagons and the absence of pikes (which sometimes led to catastrophes of musketeers vs cavalry massacre)

@christophernoneya4635

2 ай бұрын

I imagine both were designed to fight well in the Russian steppe lmao

@howdoyouturnthison7827

2 ай бұрын

They might converently evolve to deal with similar enemies. Turks and Russian had regularly fought against both European knights and Eastern Turkmen/Tatar hordes. Pikeman or pike and shot would not suit these variaty of enemies and both Russian and Turks lack plate armor tech to make infantry fisible.

@ZS-rw4qq

2 ай бұрын

Gulyay gorod?

This Channel has the best Military History content with extensive primary sources many history channels just use Wikipedia and never sight their sources

@coreyjblakey

2 ай бұрын

Yet they shill for ai tools to make more ai trash channels?

It is so interesting seeing kingdoms early attempts at professional armies, and how eventually these establishments become powerful political forces. Varangians, Praetorian Guards, Mamaluks, and Janissaries.

Thank you for mentioning that '''janisarry'' is the most humaliting way to call someone in Bulgarian

This was a long awaited one! Awesome work

Great content as usual. Thanks for the informative and entertaining videos that are consistently top quality.

Amazing research and very good summarization, thank you.

Always learn something new, thank you!

Love learning about the 17th and 16th century thanks for the vids. :)

Love this video BTW. Very insightful.❤️💯

Awesome as always

I think that polearms used by the Janissaries are heavily underappreciated. Maybe the iconography or some weird western concept of lightly armored ottomans played into this. In fact, Janissaries were heavy infantry, up armored and equipped with spears (mizrak) and axes (baltadji). Especially their "stormtroopers" such as serdengeçti or zirhli nefer. Janissaries also fought behind war wagons, often using guns, while heavily armored cavalry such as the sipahi would storm enemy units. There is no other way they would have won so many battles against heavily armored european knights.

Excellent video on a great topic

Excellent documentary... Thank you!

Hope you dont use your sponsor too much, your unique art is what makes your channel special

Video: tells about the change of status from slaves to the shadow government, those slaves having many privileges(though, honestly, maybe it would be better not to use the term slave due to negative connotations), praising their military skill and how their discipline made them the elite who made foreign soldiers tremble. Comments: "you're biased, showing the ottomans in negative light, undermining their achievements" 🤦‍♂️

@Vhite

Ай бұрын

They were still slaves though, at least the ones recruited trough devshirme which had to go trough years of indoctrination.

@fortunemaster668

Ай бұрын

@@Vhite well, probably should have said that people are needed to be more frequently reminded that slavery, although was a status of direct subjigation, didn't necessarily involve mistreatment or lack of content of the enslaved person and that it was a very deep topic back in the day

@yuzemir

Ай бұрын

@@Vhite What is the difference between them and the temple knights who were converted from paganism to Christianity and were drafted into the army? Were the people fighting for the king in the West fighting for themselves? Were they slaves of the king or the feudal lord? Also, they weren't slaves, that's your lie. Janissaries ruled the Ottoman Empire rather than the sultan, and the sultan was only the final approval authority. Janissaries rise in rank and become pasha. Pashas were related to the families of many Ottoman sultans. Which slave can marry the sultan's daughters or siblings?

@endrien22

12 күн бұрын

⁠​⁠@@yuzemir the difference is that janissaries were the direct property of the sultan, so they were slaves. Pretty simple logic and your paragraph of nuance doesnt change that fact.

well produced and exciting to watch.

Really interesting video. So thank you very much for this movie

They were basically spartans of early modern times. Recruited at young age, raped, tortured, brainwashed, overworked, and when they ready for their first battle they either become a high ranked statesman or a rotten corpse in battlefield.

@nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115

2 ай бұрын

At the least they were not serving white supremacy /s

Could you cover the training system and army of the Mamluk Sultanate. Since it was one of the most professional and effective militaries in the entire medieval world, besting both Mongols and crusaders (Until the chaos after anNasir Muhammad, afterwhich it became a failed state...)

@nickzaichuk7457

2 ай бұрын

Yes please

Very nice video. Love your animations

this is my favorite history channel

Contrary to common knowledge, Devshirme (Ottomans making high staff governors and well-paid soldiers out of farmer children) was very desired by minority parents for their children, for instance Bosnians were severely complaining to sultans about their children not being taken for Devshirme, because they were muslim.

@nvelsen1975

Ай бұрын

Imagine being ultra-nationalistic and brainwashed you justify stealing children from their parents and slave-driving....

@isuckatleague745

Ай бұрын

@@nvelsen1975 if you think its anything less than a lottery win for the kid you are brain damaged. For the family however its cruel but it is what it is.

Sweep it up, Janissaries! They do it for free.

Love this channel

First of all, thank you for your educating videos. Second, as I grew up amidst the books, one of my favourite way back when was "Stars of Eger" ("Eger csillagok" by Gardonyi Geza). The story itself falls into the same timeline as many of your videos do- middle period of 16th century. Would you be willing to make a video of siege of Eger aswell ?! :) I do appologise, if you have already covered it in your previous videos, however, it was (in my teens) the most epic tales of all time! :)

Once again you are one of the only KZreadrs to talk about early modern non English history with quality. 👏bravo

Serbian boy:Exists Ottomans:And I took that -Personally-

@lolasdm6959

2 ай бұрын

Ottoman sultan: gets skewed by Serbian knights His descendents: "That's a talent we could use."

@Tyrach.

2 ай бұрын

@@lolasdm6959 Serbian tsars and despots are slain one by one by Turkish soldiers the same Serbs after losing all the battles: Oh man, we give up to our new Masters

@tatarcavalry2342

2 ай бұрын

@@lolasdm6959 Most of the time Serbians were loyal vassals of Ottomans.

@lolasdm6959

2 ай бұрын

@@tatarcavalry2342 most of the time Serbians were in no position to choose.

@tatarcavalry2342

2 ай бұрын

@@lolasdm6959 Yeah and this is human experience in short well said

nice video

The Sardaukar in Dune are based on the Janissaries.

Turks when the boys they forced to serve them become highly disloyal and often kill the sultan: 😱😱😱😱😰

@rodrigorafael.9645

2 ай бұрын

Say you didn't watch the video without, saying you didn't watch the video:

@tatarcavalry2342

2 ай бұрын

Boys were loyal late era Janissaries were mostly not devshirme

@johnnyjoestar6405

2 ай бұрын

@@rodrigorafael.9645 Sem tempo, irmão.

Can you do the mamluks next?

I showed my video to my Albanian friend he turned into a Janissary.

If bosnian historiographers are to be believed, after it was conquered and later established as a border province of the ottoman empire, bosnian muslims requested that their boys too be part of devshirme system(which was granted), and many of them found their way both into the court and the jannisary corps. Sokollu Mehmed Pasha(or Mehmed-paša Sokolović, as he's usually called) was one of those bosnian boys.

@esoterra8050

2 ай бұрын

Bosnian and Ottoman relations were always profitable.

@ivanivanovic5586

2 ай бұрын

@@esoterra8050 There are also the stories of their involvement as part of ottoman army, like how they got majority of hungarian nobility killed in one battle that favored the ottoman cavalry(1492), or in already mentioned mohacs, they would have been at vienna gates the second time(when suleiman the magnificent died at sziget, and sokollu mehmed pasha suppressed the news of it to save army morale), the fall of majority of bosnian muslim sepahi in 1593, whose relatives gained the right of inheritance of land and service(usually was for life only), list goes on. Profitable indeed.

2 ай бұрын

There is archival information about this. Similar case we find in Albania too. Ottoman Turnacibashi was informed not to take children who were overly enthusiastic or not to accept bribes from people who wanted to put their children into the Janissary Order. This video should have used accurate Ottoman Archival Data which are public. But then again its not always his agenda to inform people of the facts. Take a look at this: belleten.gov.tr/tam-metin/248/eng

@juniorjames7076

2 ай бұрын

My ex-girlfriend's family were Turk/Bosnian Bektaşi (Bektashi) sect. They are a really laid back Sufi sect and NOT strict at all. I drank beer and rakı all the time with the father.

@aleksakuljanin2442

2 ай бұрын

Bosnian wasn't a nationality until the late 20th century. Go and learn something for once in your life. Those were muslim Serbs and Croats

Dont talk to strangers or else youll end up a part of the islamic janissary guard of the ottoman empire

Please do the mamluks next

Awesome video. Learned a lot about the public school system, thank you 😊

Excellent video! Just one thing: jataGan The g is like in Aga ;)

I heard in somewhere that christian families would actually be okay with this? As there sons could achieve higher social status and mobility when serving rather than them just being a Christian family

@iondu655

2 ай бұрын

Depends on the families. The devout one would raise hell. Others would move mountains for one of their children to be levied as Janissaries. They, the Janissaries', become so powerful that they become political clout 'representing' their homeland in the Ottoman court.

@Adsper2000

2 ай бұрын

Well, there have always been parents willing to sell their own children into slavery.

@sebastienhardinger4149

2 ай бұрын

Yes, was varied. Some christian families rightly saw the Janissary corps as a mechanism for social advancement. And muslim families also recognized this and got upset that their sons were denied this power, to the point that in the 1600s as the Janissaries became more of a praetorian guard, muslim families demanded and got the right to have their children inducted

@iondu655

2 ай бұрын

@sebastienhardinger4149 Yep, 18-19th century Janissaries are wild. They can change sultans at will.

@VigilantGuardian6750

2 ай бұрын

ottomans were at some point more of a euro-balkan empire than anatolian/asian one exactly cause of this, too many white balkan peeps got into places of power in the government

The Slave part is partially true, they were slaves, kul, to the Sultans, but kul is rather something like the relationship of a peasant to an European king, like serf. They were more like the Praetorian Guard, killing and setting up kings and terrorizing peasants. The system was adopted by Turks from the Persians and Arabs, who bought up enslaved Turks from the markets because they were deemed warriors since birth and turned them into elite guards who had no kinship to the locals, supposingly preventing revolts, called Ghulams and Mamlukes.

Cool video, I always wanted to know more about the Jannissaries.

I took a class with Gabor Agoston! fantastic historian

7:40 The reason for this huge spike in numbers is because by the 17th century the devshirme system was abandoned and replaced with voluntary recruitment.

@stanbatakarata6081

29 күн бұрын

For Turks children 100 true 👍

How to design the perfect ww1 fortress

@willfakaroni5808

2 ай бұрын

Go underground

@polygonalfortress

2 ай бұрын

polygonal forts!

every succesful empire needs a professional army

It’s so cool and strange that they were obsessed with strict rules guidelines and regulations to their daily living and order… but in battle they were against formations such as strange ideal to the modern soldier… not wrong but strange

Fun fact the loyal artillery men that would be the end of the jannssaries would another elite unit of the empire who were at the same rank as the jannssaries and were their rivals

@absyahwa7698

2 ай бұрын

Nizam i cedit

The Janissaries are hands down some of the most unique warriors n soldiers or world history. Great video.

Commentary as a sacrifice to the algorithm.

An interesting fact that is not said is that the Janissaries were, in all likelihood, the first modern professional army to use uniforms in Europe, since other armies would not take this path until practically the middle of the 17th century. A question that I have always had with the Janissaries is: How much inspiration did they take from the Mamluks? And what are the most obvious differences in the way they were organized? I think it deserves a separate video to talk about a comparison between the two units, with many similarities, since one precedes the other and they were very successful at their respective times.

@charlesiragui2473

2 ай бұрын

Great suggestion. Both were slave elite troops of Islamic empires. It seems that the Ottomans did a better job of training their elite slaves to be loyal, as the Janissaries only revolted when they lost their cohesion as enslaved Christians. I believe the Mamluks were Turkish slaves and already Muslim.

@fakirsplace8464

2 ай бұрын

in Memlûk arabs took Turkish boys as slaves and maske them soldiers. İn ottomans Turks took slavic boys as slaves and make them soldiers.

The comment section is a mess

@dennisbergkamp1553

2 ай бұрын

When you get the Turks and the Balkans involved it’s always a mess

One thing I'd like to point out from the start that "Tabur Cengi" literally means Battalion War. Are you sure It's not Something like Tabur-i Cengi which translates to Battalion of War. Tho I might be mistaken because as a turkish speaker it caught my attention as weird

I heard they all kept a spoon in their hats.

@josipboban6976

2 ай бұрын

😅

DO NOT ASK A TURK WHAT DID THE JANISSARIES DO TO LITTLE ALBANIAN BOYS IN THE 17TH CENTURY

@_--Reaper--_

2 ай бұрын

why?

@Dragoncam13

Ай бұрын

😂😂😂

Not all Kids became soldiers, According to their capability, they May take important role in goverment, Even they became grand vezir ( prime minister), some of them, work as a officer or civil servant etc.

@stanbatakarata6081

29 күн бұрын

Yes but for 10000 kids 1 is grand Vessir

@batuhan3233

26 күн бұрын

​@@stanbatakarata6081exactly, like in this modern age

@dennistokmak1219

26 күн бұрын

​@@stanbatakarata6081better than 10000 kids 0 being prime minister in western world of slavery

@stanbatakarata6081

26 күн бұрын

@dennistokmak1219 and ? The must be happy that thier children being taken away right? Brother drink 💊!

@harbinger200

8 күн бұрын

That grand vezir was a Serb Mehmed Pasa Sokolovic and he was assasinated by Sultan when he got to powerful. No Janissary was allowed to keep the wealth and power. Powerful ones where assassinated by Sultan.

In the end its the Artillery who are the kings of battles

What is happening in the comment section, this must be a troll forum or group that is doing this shit in every video

@angkhoa1216

9 күн бұрын

Turk being what turk do best Calling whatever history fact that make them look bad’s zionist propaganda

did your voice get deeper?

@axhed

2 ай бұрын

almost sounds like critical drinker doing an accent.

Why were Jewish families spared from recruitment?

@qefucan7591

2 ай бұрын

We all know why the sons of judas were exempt, it would be anti sneitism for them to haft to server as anything less than a general.

@R.Specktre

2 ай бұрын

Jews were mostly merchants at the time and notorious pacifists in accordance with Jewish Law. They paid, also, to remain autonomous.

@delicavus7300

2 ай бұрын

The reason is that Jewish society is an urban society. One of the basic principles of the Devshirme institution is that city servants are not accepted into the hearth, because city servants have an open mind, they can belong to various movements and currents.

@rubz1390

2 ай бұрын

Why would the Ottomans care about anti-semitism at all...@@qefucan7591

@shergy1000

2 ай бұрын

@@delicavus7300 So the Ottoman Empire was afraid of being subverted from within is what I'm getting from that answer.

The AI tool sponsor feels a lil dystopian IMO

@coreyjblakey

2 ай бұрын

Its like hes giving people the tools they need to make more ai slop channels that he has to compete with. Seems silly

5:40 Fun fact, his brother became the Patriarch of the Serbian Church and I think somewhere in Bosnia They made a statue of the two of them hugging, holding hands or smth

@hattorihaso2579

23 күн бұрын

Serbian propaganda they wjere in no way shape or form connected

@ZS-rw4qq

23 күн бұрын

@@hattorihaso2579 Really? It seems this Serbian propaganda is accepted by not only Turks, but Bosnian Muslims as well: bs.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Makarije tr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Makarije_Sokolovi%C4%87

@hattorihaso2579

23 күн бұрын

@@ZS-rw4qq thats what decades of propaganda will do the men had the same last name but where not related in any way shape or form

@ZS-rw4qq

23 күн бұрын

@@hattorihaso2579 Ok, from where did these two come? If they're not related but still have the same name, they would have to hundreds of miles apart, right?

@ZS-rw4qq

23 күн бұрын

@@hattorihaso2579 Don't you think Turks would know this? After all, they very meticulous in writing, they wouldn't miss an opportunity to record it

a like for the correct map, yes Muscovy !

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There are numerous non-ottoman accounts that families were happy to give their son because the chance of getting a much better life. The Ottomans wanted farmers or peasant boys not middle (merchant o priest sons) or upper class (nobles). And being a peasant was not a nice life. Still for some it was very painful. There were rules as well. No more than one son from each family. And none were taken if the family only had one son. Interesting enough devicherme was forbidden according to Sharia (u cant enslave ur own Christian subjects) but Sultan pulled theological loophole that he was not enslaving rather it was preaching the good word.

There were so many Bosnian janissaries that Bosnian was a second language in Istanbul by the mid-17th century. Bosnia was the backbone of the conquest of Hungary, possibly also what would later become Romania.

@tylerclayton6081

2 ай бұрын

Bosnia is such a tiny nation though

@tzimisce1753

2 ай бұрын

​@@tylerclayton6081 Bosnia singlehandedly defeated Prince Hildburghausen's 150 000-man HRE army (Germans/Saxons & Austrians, Hungarians, Croats, Slavonan Serbs) with 5 000 regulars and 25 000 civilian volunteers in 1737-1739, while the whole Ottoman army was busy in Ukraine.

@juniorjames7076

2 ай бұрын

I lived for one year in a suburb in Istanbul called Yeni Bosna (New Bosnia). I loved the neighborhood!

@aleksakuljanin2442

2 ай бұрын

Bosnian wasn't a nationality until the late 20th century, what are you on?

@tzimisce1753

2 ай бұрын

@@aleksakuljanin2442 You're lying because you're a Serb. Serbs are seething that they can't conquer other countries, and try to pathetically disprove genetics and history for the sake of expansion. Manuel Komnenos commissioned to have "Emperor of the Bosnians" etched into the Hagia Sophia in 1166. Bosnia was under Hungarian suzerainty at that time, so curb your stupid "it's just about a passport" - passports didn't even exist in the middle ages. Meanwhile, Ioannes Skylitzes wrote in the 11th century that Serbs are a little tribe of Croats who tried to steal Bulgarian land. Now go cry in a corner while Kosovo finishes its secession and your country falls apart.

Ah yes the slaves that more well fed and rested than any king in the era

@DirtyHippy420

7 күн бұрын

You can be treated well as a slave that doesn't make you free.

@anti-nonsensecomments7512

Күн бұрын

​@@DirtyHippy420 You can't be treated well when you are a slave, stop this stupidity

People wrongfully assume Ottomans did this devshirme practice to access to a new pool of manpower. The real aim was to create an elite soldier that had no tribal ties. You cant enslave Turks because they are Muslim and therefore you cant break their tribal ties. While other Turkish beys had to please all the chiefs in their lands to gather an army, Ottomans had a centralised elite core. For a very long time janissaries had very anectodal numbers. 500, 1000, 6000 and so on. The backbone of the army was the provincial cavalry. It grew in time because of the military revolution in Europe that required Ottomans to deploy more riflemen. As the video stated they couldnt sustain the numbers merely with devshirme anymore so sons of janissaries and Turks were taken into the corps. After that point the number of the corps dramatically increased 30.000 40.000 etc. Of course the old discipline was gone when the number was this high. They also created a new army called sekban from Turks who were also riflemen later on.

@tatarcavalry2342

2 ай бұрын

Discipline ruined mainly because they got right for normal people stuff like marrying, having other jobs etc.

@shergy1000

2 ай бұрын

Just someone trying to justify the horrific practice of Devshirme. ONE or TWO guys were risen to high rang. Therefor the 100s of thousand others enslave them and fight wars constantly.

@tatarcavalry2342

2 ай бұрын

@@shergy1000 he literally used the word enslave buddy what you on about

@shergy1000

2 ай бұрын

@@tatarcavalry2342 Explain what you mean my friend?

@tatarcavalry2342

2 ай бұрын

@@shergy1000 This is not a justification of devshirme system this is just an explanation of it and of course they were seen inferior that's why they got chosen for process just like the simple fact that they were founded as infantry because it's harder to flee as infantry and in many cultures it's more prestigious to be cavalry that applies for Turks too

Uniforms were worn by the Janissaries before any other European army until the mid-seventeenth century, making them the first modern professional army in Europe. How much the Janissaries owed to the Mamluks is something I've frequently pondered. How did their respective organizations differ most notably? A separate video should compare the two units, which are similar, since one was successful in its time and came before the other.

@Hasanbas-rv3vm

2 ай бұрын

They were the first standing army who didint disband

@Kara-K38

2 ай бұрын

I think the main difference is that the Janisarries and the Devshirme in general are more centralised than the Mamluks, Ghulams that existed before. Mamluks/Ghulams were bought and sold by individual masters and also instructed by them or someone the master chose. This type of Mamluk still existed in the Ottoman empire through their vassals in the Mamluks of Egypt until the very end.

There is a guy called vildarodinson Bro is in every reply section Dude do somwthing else it is honestly so hilarious to see one person reply to nearly every comment that there is 😂😂😂

The Turks are offering the Christian boys "Turkish Delight."

cool.

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Wait so your sponsor is litteraly something that makes bad videos ? Are your videos done the same way, with just an AI prompt ?

@placeholder1237

2 ай бұрын

The video are well reached don’t seem like ai garbage

Question: Did any Janissaries maintain ties with their former Christian families?

@deathdefyingowl

2 ай бұрын

Yes. Most of them. The guy mentioned in video Sokollu Mehmet Pasha visited his family repeatedly. His brother was priest. He built a bridge his hometown. Also there is plenty of records about how janissaries sent money to their families.

@RayshiaRoman

2 ай бұрын

Yes. Why wouldn't they?

There are all sorts of interesting stories that you can make with slave soldiers besides the obvious "slave revolt" arc, so while these guys might not have had the best lives, at least they can inspired many writers to make entertaining fiction.

What could possibly go wrong with people you enslaved?

wow like real life Unsullied

@nothing00164

Ай бұрын

Except with balls still on

@eindalton2638

Ай бұрын

​@@nothing00164Yeah, they just snip their foreskin.

@shiroamakusa8075

Ай бұрын

More like real-life Sardaukar.

Always this Turkish keyboard warriors from Berlin trying to wash history

what is the music used?

Im glad someone is talking about ottoman opression of Balkans. Many dont know that ottoman occupation was more colonization, exploitation and destruction of local culture and enslavement then just conquest.

@Imperator-vo4to

2 ай бұрын

Then how come you guys maintain your language and religion? In africa most people speak English or French and are Christians. A legacy of colonization. But you guys could maintain yours. And the colonization of africa didnt even last as long as the ottomans rule in the balkans. Something tells me they were more tolerant with their "colonization".

@damirk3

2 ай бұрын

@@Imperator-vo4to because we didnt let ourself be genocided? Ever thought about that? So you are saying Armenian genocide never happend because 100% of Armenians arent killed? You are part of problem we face every day, oh living under ottomans wasnt that bad. Yea them destroying cultural heritage of your people to build mosques is totally not genocide. Balkans being slaves to muslims for 500 years totally didnt made us poor. Losing millions due to muslim enslavement totally didnt f up our demographics. Muslims never existed in Balkans, until muslims genocided, colonized and enslaved Balkans. Albania exists because of islamic colonization of Balkans, genocide of Greeks and because of Austria creating Albania. Bosnia exists because of islamic colonization of Bosnia and genocide to native Croat and Serb population. But do you know what doesnt exist? Greeks in Anatolia who were in Anatolia from ancient times. But yea keep defending ottomans, one day because of your hate towards Slavs you might end up like Greeks in Anatolia, or like Armenians in Armenia, or like Bulgarians in Bulgaria when they wanted to end ottoman rule. I guess western Europeans will never learn what is life until they find themself on frontlines with enemy that hates your existance for 500 years. And im 100% sure you arent Spanish because they know what is like to defend yourself from someone like ottomans.

@aleksaradojicic8114

2 ай бұрын

@@Imperator-vo4to Simple put, you are wrong. First, most people in Africa speak both there tribal language and "colonial" language. Success of conversion is also mix, with result being weird combination of local beliefs and christianity. And while it is fact that Ottomans offered cultural autonomy to Balkan people, they also massacred, clensed and converted part of those same Balkan people, which really puts question on that autonomy and tolerance which you claim was somehow higher in Balkans compared to Africa and Asia.

@nickzaichuk7457

2 ай бұрын

@@aleksaradojicic8114sorry man, the ottomans were the PIONEERS of the African slave trade.. Look up the eastern African slave trade by the ottomans in the Indian sea. Centuries before these African countries were white colonized, they were slave exported by Turks😮. All slave masters are bad, this video just highlights how bad the ottomans were to the Balkan people. STOP comparing levels of slavery, it’s all bad and should all be discussed!!!

@lukaswilhelm9290

2 ай бұрын

​@nickzaichuk7457 no, the African themselves and Arabs were pioneers of African slave trade.

Perhaps one of the most long-lasting, large-scale, mass examples of Stockholm syndrome in the history of the world! Truly heartbreakingly sad, especially for the families that they were ripped away from as kids, as well as their mortal souls in eternity.

@Hasanbas-rv3vm

2 ай бұрын

That was white people did to native american children!

@carlustin4034

2 ай бұрын

No that is when Asian people did it to White people. We Bulgarians who were genocided systematicaly,whose children were kidnaped always wondered what kind of impudent idiots can make such accusation from very dirthy souls@@Hasanbas-rv3vm

@oguzkaganonder1331

2 ай бұрын

@@carlustin4034 are you stupid?

@MyVanir

2 ай бұрын

@@oguzkaganonder1331 No, but you are a turk.

Janissaries were the ex Byzantine elite archers but ended up become Praetorian guards with muskets.

@hussainsultanzada6123

2 ай бұрын

the first of the Janissaries were these ex-Byzantine archers, correct. But the Devşirme system was used from then on until ofc it wasn't.

Why “Edirne” and not “Adrianople” if “Constantinople” is used?

@lolasdm6959

2 ай бұрын

Are you Greek? If not you certainly should not care, because the Greeks and Romans both saw your people as literal monkies with swords and enslaved your people.

@tatarcavalry2342

2 ай бұрын

Because Edirne is a name older than İstanbul and used at that times buddy ameri.m.utts are again not suprising with their little to no education

@rod9829

2 ай бұрын

@@tatarcavalry2342 Turk 🤮🤮

@rod9829

2 ай бұрын

@@tatarcavalry2342 Edirne became the internationally recognised name in 1928, typical horse archer, no understanding of their own history…

@tatarcavalry2342

2 ай бұрын

@@rod9829 you don't even know simple terms let alone history there is no term as internationally recognised name in medieval times lol

What's wrong comments section..?

@Brslld

2 ай бұрын

What do you mean?

@dennisbergkamp1553

2 ай бұрын

Turks..

@artair70

2 ай бұрын

It's full of this group called "Turks" their not know for their brains.

@queentoy-qs9gb

Ай бұрын

@@artair70 QQ more in comments POStz , dont forget to use your daily bh cream 😂 thx god mongols gave a peaceful visit to your country may god bless them.

@corsairsail

16 күн бұрын

@@artair70 ​ @artair70 subhh arb u were colony of Ottomans dont talk much and serve as your ancestors did 🤣🤣

AND THEN THE WINGED HUSSARS ARRIVED

@dubbyx8490

2 ай бұрын

HEYOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

@RayshiaRoman

2 ай бұрын

AND THE COMMONWEALTH WAS CARVED TO PIECES!!!

They were slaves before became Janissary,after being Janissary ; They became an elite legion.

The dissolution of the Janissary Corps is another evidence of quality over quantity. Am I correct about this? Also, I would like to add that the Mansure Army is not that much of the better replacement when it comes to quality because many of them started out as conscripted adult men regardless of their origins. So they are not motivated to fight much unless the salaries are good. If I am wrong about this, please correct what I was wrong about.

@RehanQawai-rj7vm

2 ай бұрын

Well pointed out, This was simply a systematic imitation of Western tyranny, classism, extravagance . It brought calamity on the state and on the Muslims to this day

Hide your kids Turks are reading the comments!

When you learn the history from the toilet

@Fortress_mentality

10 күн бұрын

The only safe space left