I edited the video before they released the Metali live MV. That's a good amount of kamis screentime there!! Go watch it, what are you waiting for???

I like them more when the Kami band wore corpse paint and white robes

100% agree. Recently, I revisited the three Blu-rays back to back (Returns, Begins Black and Clear Night) and I noticed this. I even commented it a few times. I hope Koba rethinks the treatment they are giving the Kami Band in terms of screen time. 🤘🦊

@bebimetaru

5 ай бұрын

Watching the Metali live MV it seems so, but we'll see! Thank you for your time 💖💖

The western Kami Band are great musicians but have zero onstage chemistry with the girls, that's my biggest issue with them. They look exactly what they are, faceless hired player's.The eastern Kamis on the other hand had personality and it was fun watching them interacting with the girls and they really seemed to be a part of BABYMETAL.

@bebimetaru

4 ай бұрын

That's not entirely true, they're simply too far away from the girls 🥲 I've seen them in some live shows and they interact with the girls when they past each other or when they drink between songs. Rarely this is possible on a big stage in Japan. Even eastern kamis seem to have less personality since they've been wearing masks. I think the masks have always "blocked" western kamis real heart, because with those it's almost impossibile to interact even with the audience 😭

@WyattWade

Ай бұрын

Kinda funny how the masks can’t even hide the fact some of them are westerners. I seen that arm and I said “now that’s a corn fed American!”

We really need the Band shown more. They are a integral Part of what we call Babymetal and really deserve to shine. It even would make their Shows better with all the little Interactions between Band and the Girls and the Audience.

I lost my way in the Foxhole for 3 months now (still mad i didnt discover them YEARS!! sooner) But i recently watched all Pro-shot live shows also bought the Blu-Ray Delorians till Tokyo Dome. (Wish i coud have gotten FoxFestival shows on Blu-Ray Delorian 😢) And this video you made is exactly my problem i had after Legend S Baptism XX live shows. The girls still doing an amazing job but the lack of Kami-Band footage bothered me fairly quikly and those MASKS!!!!!!!!!! Why KOBA................ Seeing BoH rock out doing his dances and Takayoshi Ohmura Facial expressions, Mikio Fujioka with GOD TIER RIFFS!! RIP😢 Hideki Aoyama Doing his clean drumming, and the others Leda ISAO that we saw at the early years and after Mikio's tragic accident 🦊 I saw streams from Legend MM they did Kami solo's again (STILL THOSE MASKS THOUGH GRRRRR KOBA!!!) so im hoping we are getting back to how it shoud but those masks wont change im affraid. But great upload im glad im not alone with this issue. 🤘🦊

Back in the good ole days that you mentioned, the band was a huge part of the show, and each member had their own personality.. thats the Babymetal i fell in love with.. when i first saw the band having to wear mask, i honestly had trouble believing it.. it's humiliating for the members, it takes individuality completely out.. i hope they had to triple their pay to make them look that ridiculous..

I’m hopeful that Kami West will see a bit more screen time going forward, and maybe even the return of solos (more regularly). Pretty sure Kami East played st BM Returns, so maybe they were purposely cut to preserve consistency, as Koba knew Kami West will be doing rest of the shows? Doesn’t appear Kami East will return for the foreseeable future. Members with various projects already. Still miss them though. Also, now that Babymetal is “whole” again, Kami West became tighter as a band this year, and may be in the back end, demonstrated their dedication, Koba can get them more screen time. I believe the band focus was diminished post-Yui due to increased uncertainties, and perhaps it will return closer to the “original norm”. My guess is the masks will stay though. Regardless, I’m here for it! Lol. 🤘🦊

@richletram539

4 ай бұрын

If I am not mistaken, I think three of the members of the Kami band that tours with Babymetal in the U.S. are from the band The Galactic Empire and the drummer is from Shadow of Intent; they aren't Japanese. Which is part of the reason they have them wear masks, not that their nationality should make a difference, but it is just what I have read. Please correct me if I am wrong. 😁

@Ganimal83

4 ай бұрын

@@richletram539 Yup, you’re correct, Chris Kelly, CJ Masciantonio, and Clint Tustin are all guitarists from Galactic Empire. Clint switched to Bass for Babymetal. Ryan Neff, filled in on tour for Clint a number of times. Anthony is the beast on drums. I think the masks were Koba’s way to keep emphasis in the girls, and distance the band slightly. Even Kami East started to wear them as well in 2019. It makes sense due to all the uncertainties back then, but I still prefer no mask.

@tackle47

4 ай бұрын

@@richletram539none of the Kami West guys are still in their old bands. Galactic Empire for example was touring the 3x act same time in the USA last year as Babymetal and Barone has been gone for Shadows of Intent for a few years now.

It has always been this way, the world over. The biggest stars get the most attention. And Su-Metal has more star power than pretty much anyone. Put it this way... everybody knows who David Bowie was, but very few people can tell you who his drummer and bass player were. That's life and that's the music industry. 🦊🦊🦊 The Kami Band are superb musicians and they play their roles perfectly. Nothing is broken and nothing needs fixin'.

@bebimetaru

5 ай бұрын

Yes that's true. I didn't try to diminish the girls, just pointed out that the kamis were almost disappeared from the official footage. I appreciate your comment!! 😊

@TieNylon

5 ай бұрын

@@bebimetaru You're welcome! The video doesn't look like you are diminishing the girls, no worries there. I think we all agree the Kami Band are tremendous musicians and we all want to let them know that we identify how great they are. Interesting video, as always! Love your channel, keep up the great work, eh. 🦊🦊🦊

@bebimetaru

5 ай бұрын

@@TieNylon thank you sm!! 💖

@FlipperWolf

5 ай бұрын

I'd disagree with you as David Bowie was a pop star, BABYMETAL Is closer to a Metal band, and in Metal all the members are important and well known, not just the singer. Also David Bowie's tour musicians weren't the famous ones, but they weren't masked and hidden in the darkness either.

@TieNylon

5 ай бұрын

@@FlipperWolf One thing that would make a very big difference is if Su-metal simply introduced the band members during the show. Even the biggest acts in the world still introduce the band, one by one. Even bands that don't need to, like the Rolling Stones, still give everyone their individual moment. Babymetal does not do that. I'd like to see them start introducing the Kami band, the musicians certainly deserve it, they're tremendous. But... Amuse seems to like the structure where the band is sort of behind the scene. Too bad. One unforgettably brilliant Babymetal moment is the duelling guitars piece, center stage, during "Akatsuki" at Budokan.

Do you think the eastern Kami Band will ever return? 🥲

@Paxtonn86

3 ай бұрын

Lets hope so!! but i think they are just to expensive now (specially for doing world tours with) they are hired guns in Japan.

@KurtIsNowTaken

2 ай бұрын

Chris formed a new band called HillHaven and he's the lead vocals Anthony is now part of All That Remains we can probably guess that West Kami will rest for a little while, and hoping to see Eastern Kami's back in action on the next festival shows. but of course they're all hired session musicians so Koba can probably hire another musician to fill in the missing void. OTFGK

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I’m glad that Kami solos is back in Legend MM

@Jin-metal

2 ай бұрын

Oh god I hope so. I haven’t watched any of it yet but I sincerely hope when the blue ray releases that the kami band gets more than a few seconds of screen time. Watched babymetal returns the other one recently and the Kami band is barely shown.

I miss more kami band to!

❤❤❤

@bebimetaru

5 ай бұрын

Hello friend!! Happy to see you passing by 😊

@evofaizal777

5 ай бұрын

@@bebimetaru good content. Take care...

It's not just their presence, it's also noticable in the music. I feel like the instrumental music is kinda getting pushed more and more into the background and has been simplified significantly. On their first 2 albums if you removed the girls from the band the music itself could still be strong enough to hold its own. Nowadays it's mostly just accompanying and under the radar. To me Babymetal peaked with Resistance and kinda fell off the cliff after it. Sure they still bring out some bangers here and there but it feels like they're losing their uniqueness and trying too hard to reach bigger audiences (a tale as old as time).

Perhaps $$$ the almighty yen/ dollar Is the reason for just about everything. I don’t wish to criticize this project that has brought so much joy to so many. My guess is If you reduce the importance of the musicians, and cover them, and reduce their screen time to near 0. . . You can swap them out more easily and yes, pay them less. . . Personally I find it disrespectful to the musicians, who are still all top notch, but it certainly doesn’t bother me enough to reduce my enjoyment of their playing or the project as a whole. I hope they don’t downplay it any further, because without the Kamis playing that heavy heavy music, the girls would be a pop group lost in the noise of all the others . The METAL aspect is the main thing that lets them stand out. I saw them recently and it was AMAZING! Thank you to all involved.🤘🏼🦊🤘🏼

@jeffschreifels8651

4 ай бұрын

Masks cannot disguise any swapping out of members. Fans know almost instantly who is who even with the masks. The Kami band members are talented musicians who can find work in any other band they want. Nothing is keeping them there against their will. I don't like the masks either and wish the Kami band would be more prominent but there is nothing disrespectful to the band going on. If they don't like the conditions or pay they will all move on. Same with the girls.

@CHRISCONTEPSS

4 ай бұрын

@@jeffschreifels8651 I Believe covering their faces IS disrespectful. . . That is my opinion.

The footage you are showing seems to be the US guys who plays for Baby Metal. And they are not Kami band

Ok, I’m about to drop some theories in here, straight from my heart. Here’s my take on it: Babymetal has changed a lot since the hiatus, they now are a metal band more of their own, rather than three cute kawaii girls dancing in contrast with a powerful grownup musicians playing metal (the Kami band). This seems intentional. This wasn’t designed by them, they were a subunit club, we all know that, they had no say in anything, we don’t even know if they liked it at the time. Well, now they do have a voice, Su and Moa now seem to like way more what they’re doing and playing since their return, and it’s clear to me that they fought for this. (Might I add, Yui’s departure for me had a lot to do with this lack of control, they mostly did what they were told and that was it). The whole group performance now seems less scripted, the girls seem to have more control on what they’re doing. This is may be my western look at it, but in other words, this new Babymetal seems way less idol and way more like an actual band than before. I do love that old babymetal, but that concept is gone. There are changes in lots of aspects that points to that direction, and the kami band being just the band is one of them, in my opinion. They’re the band, but they’re not a thing. The girls are the whole thing. It’s all on the girls now and I love that. I love the Babymetal we had before, but I must say this new one is the Babymetal that I always wanted: Su, Moa and now Momo more in control and enjoying themselves like we have never seen before. The difference between their authenticity on the stage now and then is immense. So, bottom line is, the kami band no longer being a thing is a consequence of Babymetal changing as a whole. For me, for the better. After all, the seasons change.

@bebimetaru

5 ай бұрын

I love "The girls are the whole thing"! This has always been Babymetal mantra and now more then ever. I obviously didn't want to diminish the girls, just mention that the kamis have always been there to support them. Thank you for your thoughtful comment 💖

@CHRISCONTEPSS

4 ай бұрын

Interesting take and it’s true that it’s good there has been an evolution in style and presentation. This keeps the project going and continually engaging. Not withstanding, how are they a “metal band “ without the musicians? I feel they are a pop group backed by a metal band. Still two separate entities. I get what you are saying. . . But I’m willing to bet that money is the main driver behind the downplay in prominence of the Kami’s. . . However, this also just a theory. OTFGK 🤘🏼🦊🤘🏼

@jaegermeister798

2 ай бұрын

The girls busted their asses off for 3 or 4 or so years building up a fan base in Japan culminating in the crowds we got in both Legend 1999 and 1997 shows before the Kami band was even a thing. I think that fact alone speaks for itself.

I agree with many who also feel the painted faces were superior to the masks at least from a visual perspective.

Agreed. It bothers me that the musicians wear masks, almost dehumanizing them. It bothers me that they stay in the background, having next to no interaction with the girls or the audience. For me, it came to a head during the perfomance of Akatzuki at the Budokan in 2021. The guitarists nail that double guitar solo perfectly. They should be in the spotlight, right beside Su. Instead, they are kept in the shadows like wild animals, while some dancers do a mok fight that doesn't even make sense for this song. And we are talking about the musicians that were literally instrumental in providing some continuity during the difficult years, thus helping to keep the act together when everything might just have fallen apart. A great injustice is done to them. The Fox God taught us to let our voices ring and to never cease to demand justice, did he not? So here is my demand: #FreeTheKamis Spread the word. Set them free.

Kan ini sdh sesuai judul babymetal jd yg dijual babynya, sumetal, Yui metal, moa metal, momo metal, kami band emang konsepnya dibelakang babymetal, inikan gebrakan baru dr kobametal, ingin buat yg beda, lain dr pada yg lain, jd janganlah cari cari kesalahan orang, buanglah sifat iri dengki itu, klw mau anda buat sendiri grup band yg sesuai dgn konsep anda, anda ini yg suka merusak selera pasar musik, babymetal ini termasuk experimen yg sukses diterima pasar musik dunia, kita harus Terima kasih sama koba metal, dan semua yg terlibat kelompok mereka ini, paham anda kan

I know this is a few months old but wanted to add my 2 cents. Has anyone actually asked the band members if they prefer the masks? I mean 3 of them are from Galactic Empire and they wore masks there too. I mean, there's plenty of artists and bands who wear masks. Some of them do it as a way to not have to deal with stage fright. Everyone just assumes this is Koba's doing but what if it was actually the bands idea?

@bebimetaru

Ай бұрын

It could be, you're right. But remember that the masks appeared already in 2018/19 with the eastern kamis. So i'm sure Anthony, Chris and the others are comfortable with them, but it's definitively Koba's idea. Thank you for your comment and your reflection 😊

The new members are not part of the Kami Band

Ini mungkin satu kesalahan kobametal, tp maaf ne cuma pendapat, koba kan orang Jepang, kenapa koba harus ganti kami band Jepang sama kami band barat, apa koba takut grupnya ini gak bakalan dilirik sama dunia lagi,tp apapun yg terjadi saya tetap suka su, Yui, moa, momo. Good job buat kalian semua, apakah ini artinya orang asia selalu takut sama orang barat, apa apa yg ada di Asia selalu harus melibatkan orang barat, sama halnya kaya team pabrikan dimoto HP, motornya real aslin Jepang, tp pembalap utamanya selalu orang barat,emang selalu miris melihatnya, sedangkan pabrikan barat gak pernah mau memakai pembalap dr asia, apa emang asia orang orangnya selalu dibawah barat, serendah itukah level kita orang asia dibandingkan dgn orang barat, orang asia selalu diatur sama orang barat

@Ceritabangtyo98

6 күн бұрын

Ngasal bnget pendapatmu njir 😂 pdhal mereka pkai kami band luar buat di pakai tour eropa.. dan kapan pun bisa di ganti kalau salah satu ada kesibukan.. Ada yg bilang kami band jepang juga ada kesibukan lain, jadi mungkin ga bisa terus"an ikut tour

I don't see any issues. Why are you even looking problems when there is none?

I appreciate what you're trying to do. But that mashup of Kami Band bits and pieces is more of an audio train wreck than an homage. The band is great, I wish they didn't have to wear the masks. But they're all still part of the Babymetal experience and I'm not gonna set about to trash that.

Babymetal´s peak was 2015/2016. Since then the positive craziness and the fun more and more disappeared. Imho BM never recovered from the departure of Yui Mizuno. Even Momo can´t fill the gap properly. But it is still more pleasant than various girls on a rotation, of course. With the original Kamis, BM appeared as a real metal band. Then came the weird masks, and the eastern Kamis were no longer used. Western Kamis are nothing but paid mercenaries, staying behind, to play the music. BM need to go back to their roots.

@bebimetaru

5 ай бұрын

I respectfully disagree with you but thank you for your point of view 😊 western kamis may seem just mercenaries, but they care about the group. I think they're just asked to be more composed to move the focus on the girls. I hope that eastern kamis come back too, but I'm liking this era, especially thanks to Momoko 😊 Thank you for the opinion though!

@road-runner

5 ай бұрын

Totally disagree. Yui is not coming back. The western kamis are amazing musicians. Move on and get over it.

@mindphlux1899

5 ай бұрын

I didn't say Yui would come back, and I didn't say western Kamis were bad musicians. Apart from that, different people have different opinions. Get over it.@@road-runner

@road-runner

5 ай бұрын

@@mindphlux1899 Really? "Even Momo can´t fill the gap properly", "Western Kamis are nothing but paid mercenaries", "BM need to go back to their roots". You said all this. You can think what you want, but I will not ignore that you despise them. They have gone through many difficult times and they are not going back. It's time to look forward and not to be delusional.

@mindphlux1899

5 ай бұрын

It´s my opinion. You can have yours. I don't care if someone agrees with me. You are speculating about the Kamis. Don´t expect everyone to see it the way you do. ;-) I know, Babymetal fans are pretty harsh when it comes to the point that someone dares to criticize the project. I´m a fan, too. But I´m, different. I criticize most, what I like most. I favor the original Kamis. I hate the masks and the anonymity, that comes with it. There was a special chemistry between the girl and the eastern Kami Band. I don´t see that at all today. When Yui left, they had to find out how to go on with Babymetal. Moa and Su alone, it was clear from the beginning, that wouldn´t work. Then they started the Avengers era and this (again, it´s my opinion) was the worst thing they could come up with. They decided to go on with BM, so it´s good they have an official third member again. You might start a poll. Momo or Yui? What do you think, which of the both girls would be the fan favorite? Things have changed, not always for the better.