The Intel Arc A310 is AMAZING - Perfect Plex GPU
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It looks like between the time I made the video and now that this model is sold out. I linked similar options below.
a310 Amazon - amzn.to/3wCtRb8
a310 Newegg - howl.me/cmgmVcyizks
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0:00 Intro
0:58 What is transcoding?
2:10 What do I use this GPU for?
2:22 Plex
5:00 Content creation with the a310
6:58 Final thoughts
Пікірлер: 306
Finally! A single slot Intel Arc with AV1! Great video! Also, nice shirt 😜
Single Slot. Single Slot. Single Slot!!!!!! When you're trying to keep from spreading out onto multiple servers, its a killer to buy a GPU that renders 2 or 3 slots on your 7 slot ATX server board unusable. The fact that it is cheap and efficient is huge as well. I hope they sell a million of these.
@robertwhite6384
Ай бұрын
Yep. Single slot low profile. It'll fit into my 1U server. It's 100% on my list to buy this year. I'll make the money back on my power bill when me Xeon's aren't cranking away.
"Transcoding" not allowed in Texas... that was BRILLIANT! 🤣
@0xKruzr
Ай бұрын
as a resident of Austin, I lol'd
@kraio-sfu
Ай бұрын
Inb4 the redblooded “patriots” come in and complain about raid owl getting political 😂
Forgot to mention that both Quicksink can work with ARC with something called Deep Link Hyper Encode.
You forgot to mention a crucial spec for this card. "PCI Express Configurations: PCI Express 4.0 x8" Nice to know we can slap this in a x8 slot if i needed to.
@xrafter
Ай бұрын
Keep in mind if you want to add this as a second gpu to your machine, then you must keep in mind that some motherboards cut the available lanes between the highest and second to highest x16 slots. Each would get x8 lanes.
Ай бұрын
To my knowledge, any GPU currently on the consumer market can run on an 4.0 8x slot. Even with a 4090, you only loose about 0.5 to 1% of performance, if used with an 4.0 8x pcie connection.
@samiraperi467
Ай бұрын
They can probably run in x1 slots if you are so inclined.
@Chad_at_Big_CAT_Networking
Ай бұрын
Thats's the point. Makes it perfect to split for HBA or ConnectX-5 that also only need x8.
@xrafter
Ай бұрын
@@Chad_at_Big_CAT_Networking Yeah!
I don't do video editing but just for plex i bought a mini computer with a n100 (intel quicksync) & I have been more than impressed. Very small, sips power, & is a powerhouse for transcoding for plex. They are anywhere between $150-$200.
@Vekstar
Ай бұрын
If you got the asrock n100 board. You should combo it with this card. Sure you add another 20-25W on load, but the idle performance is great. Like 1 or 2 watts more.
@Valthonis
Ай бұрын
@@Vekstar If the N100 gpu is great at transcoding why would you add this card? Honestly curious.
@Vekstar
Ай бұрын
@@Valthonis because I want to play some video games too. Seeing icebergs tech video on gamming performance on the N100, is lacking. Unless your OK playing pre 2004 games. . Also, i want a gamming/media production computer that uses less than 70w or less in power. (this includes monitor, Blu-ray drive/nas and power inefficiency from power supply) I want to have this computer hooked up to a 80-120w solar panel, and make it my primary computer. Although I may just use a rx6400 if I don't care about gpu transcoding/encoding. Slightly more power inefficient, from what I've seen. But not sure if extra performance is worth it. Tried rx6300 and it would have worked, but it's 32bit bus makes most 3d games I tested get 15-35 fps. Where as a 6400, I can get 45-60fps on 3d games I tried.
@Valthonis
Ай бұрын
@@Vekstar that makes perfect, sense, I incorrectly assumed it was still in context to transcoding.
@RockTheCage55
Ай бұрын
@@Vekstar i don't game so i really don't need the card
For older cpus like haswell, this is the perfect solution for my home media server.
I added an A330 to run the audio raytracing in Sector's Edge not straining the main gpu. Can load a lot more sources with more bounces then just the gpu inside the cpu.
Brilliant vid, I shall keep an eye out for this GPU!
Thanks. I have been using the NVIDIA T400 for similar purposes for several years but this liiks like a good upgrade path to get AV1. 😊
Need the link! This is exactly what I was looking for my setup, thanks for this!
@RaidOwl
Ай бұрын
Check description. Apparently these all sold out last night somehow? I put links to find other models of the same card.
@busterhimself
Ай бұрын
There is no link in the description
Codec = COder + DECoder Transcoding = Transform Codec, so Decode Codec/Quality A and then Encode again in Codec/Quality B
I love using this for my twitch stream! The AMD encoder on my 6800XT was just super slow.
Sibling competition video yes! Always wanted to see how the Arc gpus compare on both transcode and 3d.
I've learned well from you, I bought one of these about 45 days ago for my Plex server.
Wet wipes: "Whoa Brett it's so tiny" Lazerpig: "Because tiny gun, how can work"
Great vid! Of course card is sold out on Amazon. :)
I have an A380 in my Dell PowerEdge T330 server that I use for Plex. It's a champ! I want to get the A310 cooler and swap it onto the low profile dual slot Sparkle A380 and life would be perfect.
@2104doug
Ай бұрын
Would you said that the A380 is a little better at transcoding then the A310?
@2hotflavored666
Ай бұрын
@@2104dougWhy wouldn't it be? It literally has more raw processing power.
been using an A310 for re encoding for all my downloads for almost a year and love it
@rudysal1429
Ай бұрын
Do you have an automated solution?
@SoulEater2142
27 күн бұрын
@@rudysal1429 yes I use Fileflows in Unraid with a custom kernel
Great Testing, all i wanted to know about the Arc A310 in 8Minutes- keen on trying out a 310 myself
Don't even dare to leave us out from that Arc race project. You'll show it to us in the future and I'll be the best clicker with extensive training since yesterday!
1. Nice Merch! 2. I love the squinchy faced troll guy in every video! Every time! 10 seconds in this time!
😆 i like the "thats all i have for you today" sign-off. Reminds me of the Lockpicking Lawyer. 😁👍
@RaidOwl
Ай бұрын
Binding on 2…
@CampRusso
Ай бұрын
@@RaidOwl 🤣🤣🤣 sometimes you just need a little counter-rotation. "That's what she said!" 😁
Thanks for this! I had been eying this for a low power trans-coding solution, but watching ETA prime's videos on it didn't really help for this specific use case. If I'm not mistaken, it uses a 8x PCIE, so hopefully no bi-furcation issues on older boards.
@5467nick
Ай бұрын
An x8, x4, or even x1 card will work in an x16 slot of the motherboard without bifurcation support. Where you run into trouble without bifurcation support is mostly things like cheap PCIe to quad m.2 adapters. Without bifurcation support, such adapters will only support a single m.2 SSD because the PCIe slot only supports one device regardless of how many lanes that one device is using.
I also have both these GPUs. Still waiting on unraid to support it!! Also Jellyfin!! I quit running plex when it won't work without Internet for local content.
i absolutely love the arc architecture for that, can't wait to see NUCs using meteor lake CPUs to get all these advantages in an iGPU
I'm already running one of these in my homeserver to support the aged xeon E5 ivy bridge cpu with some hardware transcoding in jellyfin. It's running in a linux vm on TrueNAS. Works like a charm and i'm verry happy with it. the only negative thing is the fan. it's not loud but a little bit annoying. I wish the card were a little big bigger so it would fit a bigger fan. But it's single slot, low power and supports av1 and therefore it is the best card for my media server.
I have this exact card in my Unraid server. Just waiting for Unraid to update to 6.13 since the current linux kernel doesn't support it. It's coming very soon though so I am excited to use this card for my Plex server!
@DrDipsh1t
Ай бұрын
At worst, make a VM and pass the card to it and run plex on it.
Great material ! Thank you. Can you please do tests with mainstream motherboard like intel chipset one with main pcie gpu for example nvidia and this intel as secondary in programs and few monitors? Would be awesome vid also in terms of performance - pcie lanes, frames in games on main gpu meanwhile work in blender on secondary gpu. Thanks!
I use an Nvidia Quadro P600 for this (bought second hand for about 60 bucks). This looks like a nice way to upgrade to support AV1 when more clients start supporting it.
Thanks for showing this! Been thinking of getting an A350 for my server, however, I guess the A310 is absolutely sufficient. As for my main machine, I might pick up one, too. Currently rocking the RTX 3090 (got it right after the crash for a good price) which is definitely not a bad card. The only problem: It can't transcode AV1 which is a shame. I'd probably plug in another 310 for AV1 contents. I just love the efficiency of AV1 and I guess, for most of my recordings and stuff, AV1 will suffice. Definitely an add for me. At least one of them :D Will be used for Jellyfin, immich & automagic timelapses from my terraria. One question, though, have you tried it with some kind of machine learning workloads? Specifically something along the lines of FrigateNVR or plain image recognition? I know, cards like the A770 would be better suited however, I'd also be interested in how this card holds up.
Please adjust your completely arbitrary numbers for the HEVC, its 2 or 3 times higher in efficiency even at real time processing if your cpu does it, AV1 is the problem, barely any CPUs or GPUs do encode on a HW level, unless you wanna go Intel ARC
Great video In the beginning you talk about how different codecs effect the transcoding of a video, but I think you should have mentioned something about containers as well (mp4, mkv etc) At 4:56, when you asked us to pause the video, notice that the blue label on the graphs for h264 incorrectly says h254.
@RaidOwl
Ай бұрын
What about the blue label saying h264 seems incorrect?
@moonimmondal
Ай бұрын
@@RaidOwl The blue label says "h254" but it should say "h264"
@tama47_
Ай бұрын
Containers doesn’t affect transcoding, that’s what direct stream is for
@RaidOwl
Ай бұрын
@@moonimmondal ohhhhhhhhh lol yeah
When it becomes available in Europe i will be getting one. I have no need for anything to do heavy gaming on, but want something low power, and that only occupies a single slot.
I only tuned in to up vote comments mentioning Jellyfin
@RaidOwl
Ай бұрын
Jellyfin is cool too
@sanyr80
Ай бұрын
jellyfin gang
@tama47_
Ай бұрын
Jellyfin doesn’t even support MAL Agent and no client app on PS5
@BPL-Whipster
Ай бұрын
Jellyfin for the win
@SpoonHurler
Ай бұрын
I just switched from Funkwhale and Plex to just Jellyfin last week to test it out and it's been very pleasant so far.
Can't wait these be sub 50 on aliexpress. Great video
Heard the sparkle arc cards have issue with fan speed curve. Got me an asrock A380 for that extra quality boost (but still low power). Wish we had more single slot options.
@louis_irl
Ай бұрын
Can confirm. I have this card and the fan cycles on and off every 10-20 seconds when idle. You can clearly hear it if you're in the same room, so it's really annoying. If you're running Windows you should be able to control it in software, but Arc cards don't have temperature or fan monitoring on Linux yet. I ended up soldering a cable from a case fan to it so it could be run off the motherboard instead. Don't have any way of knowing whether it's overheating, but it's been running great for transcoding since.
card is back in stock on amazon
legend!! i been looking for something smaller than my RTX3060 i have in there now, i may have found it. I was also considering a nvidia tesla P4 with the fan mod on the end, as it has dual encoders, for simultaneous encoding, is single slot with no power also. decisions decisions.
Hoping for Unraid to quickly support ARC in the next major release. I know there are kernel workarounds but I would rather wait for the official one.
When did they add ARC support? I’ve been waiting for this! (Or what did you do to make it work?)
Ok I laugh A LOT watching your channel but "I'm pretty sure they don't allow that in Texas" had my crying! Love your content my guy.
Oh that’s a good price wonder if this would fit in the minisforum ms01
I would love to see the comparison video. I’m rocking my old gtx 970 in my Homelab, and I would love to see how some modern gpus compare for Plex transcoding
@owomoshi-gaming
27 күн бұрын
I had a 1060 and then upgraded to a 1650 and it seemed so much better. So I could imagine you wouldn't be disappointed with a Intel GPU
Shame that these Sparkle GPUs seem to be unobtanium in Europe, you can get the Asrock model but that’s dual slot
@aarrondias9950
Ай бұрын
Same here in Canada, it's annoying.
@Alpine_flo92002
Ай бұрын
It is available but it costs as much as a A380 (138€)
@darthkielbasa
Ай бұрын
I like Unobtainium and shall use it post haste
@goddessofwar4955
Ай бұрын
Asrock has their A310 also at $99. The big issue is that unless you have a quadro, all of the consumer Nvidia cards are limited to the number of streams. The 380 is the sweet spot (IMHO) but more most users the 310 is perfect.
Did you do any idle power consumption testing? First gen arc is notorious for high idle consumption, and that really takes away from the $99 price tag in expensive energy regions :(
ASRock has been my go to for boards for years. Waiting for the LP A380 to go on sale again.
Great video! I am using this card right now and it is working great for Jellyfin/Plex. Have you tried it with Handbrake/Tdarr? I cant seem to get it working for those containers in my Proxmox LXC.
For jellyfin I got a 12600 i5 for quicksync transcoding using the HD770 iGPU and it's great. 3 watts when transcoding and no need to use up a PCIe slot.
What's the idle power consumption of this in a headless server if used just for transcoding? I had old gaming GPUs in my server but they'd be using 20W not connected to anything or doing anything so I eventually ditched them...
Can you use Intel gpus in tandem with quicksync on the CPU for transcoding on Plex?
Great video. i believe their new laptop cpus also contain these hardware encoders. Intel gpus are the best bang for the buck right now for these use cases.
It's a nice little market for them, for sure. They could carve another niche if they managed to get good Tensorflow/PyTorch support and put out 16/24GB mid tier cards at a reasonable price, as high ram mid gpu is a battleground nobody entered yet, and many ML enthusiasts would love to have larger models without the "premium cost" of the high end gpu, and at least Nvidia, doesn't seem to care about "budget users" anymore. How the wheels have turned...
Hey Brett. I've been looking at this exact A310 (Sparkle Eco) for a while now, but supposedly it has a fan issue, where it ramps up and down constantly. Whats your experience with this problem?
Funny at you mentioned the 770 because I was about to ask how does it compare lol
Hey @raidowl Do we have a number of 1080p and 4k streams that it can transcode in plex/jellyfin, would be interested in knowing if this would more efficient than a p2000
This seems to be just what I need for my media server. Wonder how well it works with Truenas Scale and Jellyfin though. I'm currently using a RX 480 since I had that laying around but Jellyfin keeps falling back to CPU encoding.
@7MBoosted
Ай бұрын
That is because the encoder/decoder on Polaris cards is objectively not very good. I am not sure about jellyfin, but plex doesn't even support the AMD encoder because of its historical lack of quality/performance. Also, as far as I know, there are some extra steps you have to jump through to get hardware transcoding working on jellyfin. AFAIK what hoops you have to jump through depends on what platform you are installed on.
Thanks for the info, didn't know this was available.. living under a rock here. So what are the uses for the other Sparkle cards? A310 Elf, A370 Elf, A380 GENIE, A580 Orc, A750 ORC OC, A750 Titan OC & A770 Titan
Question: The a380 by Sparkle is dual slot and also doesnt need external power. Outside of single slot, what would be the advantages of the a310 > a380?
my UnRaid box has a Ryzen 9 5950x with Nvidia Quadro P400 for transcoding video in plex found that GPU on ebay new open box it smokes at its duty. nice gpu
I was getting into despair with the thought that the ARC380 would not fit into my Dell Optiplex 5090 SFF PC, and then AHHHHHHH!!! here you are with the baby brother. You are a God send! Let me know though, if you think ARC380 would fit into my Dell Optiplex 5090 SFF PC. If it can, make an affiliate link for me to use. Thank you.
@RaidOwl
12 күн бұрын
If it’s a dual slot then the a380 will fit. Otherwise snag the a310. You can use any affiliate link and then just browse to the item in that same session and I get the kick back. Just fyi haha.
Nice Lil one. Unfortunetly those ones costs around 200 dol at my country.
The only problem now, is that these are sold out online most everywhere.
Might be good for Frigate also.
6:30, funny you mentioned that, I didn't buy a 4090 until after I divorced XD
Neat - maybe this is a candidate for my aging Dell power edge r330 server. Cheap!!
planning to get one for my homeserver...
Almost picked up this card for My HTPC, but the A380 was the same price so went with it. replacing RX-570.
Looks like you pulled a JayzTwoCents and managed to get the word about it to so many people that it is sold out. Or at least Jay often has that happen when he gets too excited about a hardware product.
Hey man thank for the video. Can i use it as dual gpu? I have an intel i7 5830k would this work for 10bit 4:2:2 with that older processor? I saw you needed 10th gennir newer for it to work well
Interesting, I seem to recall some encoding hardo’s going on about better quality with QSV.
My understanding is that you need resizeable bar in order to take advantage of AV1. Did you test that? Since my supermicro board doesn't have it, I can't take full advantage of an Arc card for plex.
@RaidOwl
Ай бұрын
I don't know that you NEED rebar but you will lose about 10% max performance without it. Overall I don't think its a big deal.
I have a small OptiPlex computer, it's got i7-7700 CPU, do you recommend putting this GPU on it as the primary driver? I want to prepare the PC for my father who only does Office and watches some KZread and his current PC is really struggling. I put 24GB of DDR4 RAM on the device, and 1TB NVMe SSD and 8TB HDD, the only thing it is missing is a GPU. Is it worth getting this for it?
I’ve been wanting to add a GPU to my media server. But I have it running in a VM. I’d lose the ability to live migrate between hosts. I thought about vGPUs but still not sure
During this past Cyber Monday the low-profile A380 was the same price ($99.99) on NewEgg as the A310 was, so i grabbed the former
i have been wondering about this exact thing.. rn i have a gt1030 and thinking i should get something better.
I would be curious how this performs on an older CPU and a motherboard that doesn't support ReBar.
That GPU would be good for gaming. Quake 1, 2, 3, Doom 1, Doom 2, and other games that aren't modern AAA titles that have ads and micro transactions so it's almost the perfect GPU.
I had a long RMA wait, and saw the A770 for $300... I was using it for gaming... It was actually really impressive! Especially for the price. The fact that Intel is more used to making integrated graphics is obvious though, CPU utilization is higher than an AMD or Nvidia card. Paired with a strong CPU, I'm impressed.
Waiting for next gen Intel GPUs for video transcoding
Do the Arc cards use quicksync like the integrated intel graphics? Been considering picking up an a770 to do the transcoding on my threadripper build. Would love to see a transcoding chart with the a770 since you have one.
@BrunodeSouzaLino
Ай бұрын
QuickSync requires an Intel CPU with iGPU.
The Arc A310 is back in stock at Amazon as I write this (6/12/2024), if anyone wants one. I'll be using it in an MS-01 running ESXi and passing it through to a Windows Plex VM.
would be good to know how this compares to a TESLA P4, that is also a single slot low profile card (but you need to add a 3d printed shroud and a fan) and also costs around 80-100$
@Psikeomega
Ай бұрын
I am also interested in this since if I got one of these Arcs I would have to convert it to static pressure cooling in my server
@BrunodeSouzaLino
Ай бұрын
The Tesla P4 doesn't seem to have AV1 encoding, but it does have 1 decoder and 2 encoders, which is the opposite of the 4090.
@Psikeomega
Ай бұрын
@@BrunodeSouzaLino cheers. I really should have looked it up myself, but I typed it before I thought about what I was doing.
Intel is naming their graphics cards like they airbus planes
Intel QuickSnyc is amazing at transcoding.
I had problems with Resolve on my new rx 7800xt, I got an Arc A310 for 70€ and it's really good. For gaming however, it's on par with my old RX 570 4GB (tested on God Of War: 30-40FPS on lowest settings)
I use an A380 in my Plex server and I'm happy with it too. Does the A770 make much of a difference when transcoding video? It would be interesting to see if it's worth getting a higher tier card when Battlemage comes out.
@RaidOwl
Ай бұрын
From what I've seen its the same encoder/decoder hardware on the entire ARC line
@RetroBerner
Ай бұрын
@@RaidOwl That's good to know, thanks!
AMD will give you Rebar on PCIe 3 with B450 / x470 and I believe Ryzen 3 3100 was the least to support SAM and Rebar for Ryzen, Intel may not be able to do it on PCIe 3 with Rebar without hacking it. x470 will even support my RTX 3070 with Rebar on in PCIe 3.
Dark Mode Sighted!!!!
Anyone who wants to use this card on Unraid: Until 6.13 comes out, you need to use Thor's custom kernel with the drivers added. Easy file swap, plenty of tutorials out there. Once you have that in place you can pass the card through to your media serving container of choice.
as a sucker for small and cheap , I'd buy it for gaming.
it's nice and all, PCIe-powered low-profile gpu indeed seems efficient, but what exactly would be a useful rig setup then? does A310 need resizeable bar support in bios? Linux and Windows drivers good? is it possible to offload/accelerate DaVinci Resolve onto a local server? no bottlenecks running at PCIe x4 or less? silent (0 rpm) mode possible?
@FinlayDaG33k
Ай бұрын
- No rebar needed. - Don't know about drivers. - Not possible to offload DaVinci Resolve onto the server *but* you can use the server to generate ProRes 422 "proxies" which can be used to speed up the editting flow (effectiveness may vary). - No real bottlenecks when using PCIe x4. - No clue about 0 rpm modes.
@ryanspencer6778
Ай бұрын
ReBAR is mostly a thing you need for gaming with Arc. If you aren't hitting the memory that much with the GPU, like with transcoding, you won't need reBAR. Editing will likely require it though.
I got an GTX 1650 Super and it's got the same video encoding/decoding as the 30-series. Works great for transcoding multiple HEVC 4K and tonemapping. But Plex chokes the moment someone needs subtitles burned into the video. I wish they could figure out a pipeline that works 100% on the GPU for that instead of shuffling frames back and forth to RAM and applying the subtitles with the CPU. It has to be possible. Case in point, I could theoretically play the video file in MPC-HC with subtitles and then capture the screen with OBS without that creating a bottleneck 🤷
Quick question, is this a better investment than a elgoto 4k60 pro? Just want to know beforehand. 😅
@RaidOwl
Ай бұрын
They’d prob be used for different things so I’m not sure haha.
But is there Linux support for this GPU, ie., would this be a good choice to put into a Linux DaVinci editing system?
@RaidOwl
Ай бұрын
From what I've read it runs pretty well as long as you're on kernel 6.2 or newer
You should have probably mentioned that hardware transcoding in plex requires Plex Pass which is either a subscription fee or one-time fee
Intel the company that brought you Spectre and Meltdown
Did you fix the issue with the fan bug that revs 0-100 every sec on Ubuntu and Windows?
Hows the support on Jellyfin?
Maybe some actual gaming with the A770 later, Brett 😉😉😉