The INEOS America's Cup debrief - Exclusive interview with Sir Ben Ainslie & Grant Simmer

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We kick off this feature with a quick summary of how the Prada Cup was won.....and lost. Then, Sir Ben Ainslie and INEOS CEO Grant Simmer talk exclusively and openly to Matt Sheahan about the British campaign discussing its strengths and shortcomings along with their thoughts on the prospects of another British campaign. They also provide their thoughts on the the 36th America's Cup Match and how Emirates Team New Zealand and Luna Rossa Prada Pirelli will compare.
01:05 Prada Cup Final - Quick Review
04:55 Ainslie / Simmer Interview

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  • @gasparweb
    @gasparweb3 жыл бұрын

    Just half way the interview, and boy, this folk know what to ask, and how to ask. It's really a joy to watch.

  • @nSnowCrow
    @nSnowCrow3 жыл бұрын

    Is it only my impression or do all channels "Why INEOS lost" but nobody does "Why LUNA ROSSA succeded". It paints a picture where the Italians didn't earn their wins but only got them because the brits failed. Also we don't know if they would be weaker in stronger winds. I favored the Britts but I think in every aspect the performance of the Italians were a couple knots/degree better and they made better tactical decisions. IMHO many take away from their success atm.

  • @bengun1

    @bengun1

    3 жыл бұрын

    In the round Robins INROS was all over LRPP, then in the final it was the opposite. Good to ask why?

  • @nSnowCrow

    @nSnowCrow

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@bengun1 of course it’s good to ask why. But my point was that it feels like Luna Rossa is not in the media awareness as it should be. Some may even interpret it in a way that they didn’t deserve to win. Overall the questions were neutral but some comments for example the beginning sequence with the wind, they feel odd. Maybe the focus will shift towards the Italians soon. And KZread’s algorithm potentially put me in an Ineos centric bubble.

  • @h3ady1912

    @h3ady1912

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think your impression is correct but only in reference to both British media (patriotism) and interviews with TIUK who can only surmise on why they lost. The Italian media have quite a different bias and focus on why they won and why they will win the AC. Depending on where you are located the YT algorithm will push you in a different direction.

  • @AndrewBlucher

    @AndrewBlucher

    3 жыл бұрын

    As a neutral observer, I don't think Luna Rossa would explain how they won. They would want to keep their powder dry. So the interviewer is left with talking to the Brits.

  • @jaford2

    @jaford2

    3 жыл бұрын

    Personally, I would have absolutely LOVED to have seen a few races in stronger weather conditions! Although Luna Rossa went OK in the breeze, they were beaten by INEOS every time in the Round Robin, so to see such a one-sided final (due to INEOS' weakness in light winds) was disappointing, in my view.

  • @philiphema2678
    @philiphema26783 жыл бұрын

    As a Kiwi living in Hawaii I salute the Italians and their Prada Cup win. Let the battle begin! The Kiwis and the Italians are skilled at this sport. May the best team win. Kia kaha!

  • @andreazorzetto1897

    @andreazorzetto1897

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thx mate , cheers from Italy.

  • @banjopete

    @banjopete

    3 жыл бұрын

    We did!

  • @rumplesmootheskin586
    @rumplesmootheskin5863 жыл бұрын

    Grant, you showed them a clean pair of heels in previous races so your problems didn’t start three years ago with politics. Credit to LRPP, their boat is good but they also gave you a lesson in match race starting and out sailed you at every point with superior boat handling and teamwork. You did well, but they did better. The last few series have shown the importance of teamwork and continuing the push all the way to the end so it’s going to be a cracking final!

  • @peterabild1123
    @peterabild11233 жыл бұрын

    Very good interview. Thank you.

  • @enzeda
    @enzeda3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for such a good interview. I hope the Brits return for the next AC cup regatta, as they will definitely be significantly stronger and worthy challengers.

  • @jimhood1202
    @jimhood12023 жыл бұрын

    Good interview, thanks. Like Ben I would love to see this design continue. After the Americas Cup is over it will be interesting to hear from the team leaders how much further they think this design can go as things stand, and where the rules could be changed to ensure closer, exciting (more teams?) racing.

  • @108hindu
    @108hindu3 жыл бұрын

    It would be a good idea to design a boat that works well in all conditions. Prada did that.

  • @cburton7042

    @cburton7042

    3 жыл бұрын

    Oh really? Great insight!!

  • @108hindu

    @108hindu

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@cburton7042 one the britts seem to have missed. Such a pity, £100,000,000 down the toilet.....

  • @mitchand9

    @mitchand9

    3 жыл бұрын

    Both ETNZ and LR have.

  • @jonr309

    @jonr309

    3 жыл бұрын

    How do you know. It could be that in heavier winds i.e 15 plus knots, Ineos would have had the edge and Prada bemoaning the fact that the winds weren’t lighter. It was unproven as to how well LR will go in breezier conditions.

  • @mitchand9

    @mitchand9

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jonr309 you've missed the point. None of that mattered as LR were stronger in light winds. We seen LR race in heavier wind conditions against AM so we know they were capable.

  • @rogerhawkins6433
    @rogerhawkins64333 жыл бұрын

    The most intelligent interview and such thoughtful answers from sailing royalty. The Brits are a class act. Let's hope they stay in the game. Goodness knows they are great sports people, genuinely nice team and such a talented and dedicated group. If Team NZ ever loses the cup (any time after 2060 is fine by me) then let's hope the Brits are the next holders! Great interview, thank you. RH Auckland NZ.

  • @cinemar

    @cinemar

    3 жыл бұрын

    What have you been smoking? The Brits are scared to admit they were out sailed by a better team, not a better boat. No one said LR was a better, faster boat until they saw them cross the line 7 - 1.

  • @rogerhawkins6433

    @rogerhawkins6433

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@cinemar "scared to admit" ???? WTF! That's precisely what they admitted, while also being very clear as to their own errors, mistakes, and issues that complicated their challenge. You need a kick in the slats mate! The Brits were a great team, worked hard, did their best and didn't succeed. What satisfaction do you get from having to pick them to pieces when they at least had the good grace to front, and take all the questions from a serious yachting and boating journalist! You are a tosser! End of story!

  • @cinemar

    @cinemar

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@rogerhawkins6433 All they did was blame their boat. Better luck next time!

  • @igloo687

    @igloo687

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@cinemar what about the semi finals? Boat or team? Spithill could only succeed in 2013 because he had Ainslie teaching how to sail his boat turning 8-1 deficit to 8-9 win in San Fran. Watch the replay of race ten where Ainslie tells him to “shut up and sail the boat”. Italians did well, Brits are admitting that and wishing them well, but the Italians, to the impartial observer are fragile and over excited. Can’t wait to see the final.

  • @cinemar

    @cinemar

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@igloo687 So many excuses. When Ainslie loses it's because of his opponent's boat superiority. When the guy who beats him actually won the cup twice it's because he was tactician. Unbelievable.

  • @massimolucamattioli5236
    @massimolucamattioli52363 жыл бұрын

    An interesting, competent and fair debrief. Good job

  • @BarranjoeyCapital
    @BarranjoeyCapital3 жыл бұрын

    Be great to see the lads back at the next AC event!

  • @huansanders3036
    @huansanders30363 жыл бұрын

    this is quality contend. awesome work!

  • @chrisstevenson9844
    @chrisstevenson98443 жыл бұрын

    What a great interview.

  • @chrisdorn5202
    @chrisdorn52023 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic interview and thanks for posting. Both lovely guys and clearly gutted but being gentlemen about their disappointment. Would love to see Ineos as COR and may that happen!! The fight they displayed to turn a slow boat into a competitive boat is inspiring. Thanks Ben and wider team. Hope to see lots more of the team. ETNZ 7. LRPP 1.

  • @TechnikMeister2
    @TechnikMeister23 жыл бұрын

    Lessons for a challenger: It took us (Australia) over 20 years to win the AC. In the end it came down to tech wih the winged keel. But before that we were plain and simple outsailed in the races. Dennis Connor summed it up: 1. One extra tack and you lose a boat length. 2. Lose the start and 80% of the time you lose the race. 3. Build the boat early and spend more time on the water doing the testing.

  • @arsenal10141014
    @arsenal101410143 жыл бұрын

    Great insight / thank you

  • @josephking7219
    @josephking72193 жыл бұрын

    Luna Rossa won 7-1 to TUK and done a down trou to American Magic 4-0. Luna Rossa is a beautiful boat. NZ should be worried. Love Jimmy and Francesco.

  • @janheindejong
    @janheindejong3 жыл бұрын

    Great interview!

  • @00BillyTorontoBill

    @00BillyTorontoBill

    3 жыл бұрын

    yeah I really really miss the old style of interviews. This one saved Ben for me. He was bit arrogant...then crying. Now, after hearing him im willing to have a beer with him ! You have to be mad to think only one cup campaign now...need a couple. 500 million is a good start to a never won one campaign. Where's Australia? No more billionaire sailors? Where's Canada, Where's Ireland? Brazil? ....I would love to see a russian boat. Square lines but fast as stink...lol...like theyre planes/

  • @cindyullsee393

    @cindyullsee393

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@00BillyTorontoBill France is the big WTF! where are you for me? They are awesome sailors, right into their foiling & don't mind blowing holes in other peoples boats to get what they want (Opps! sorry Dean might have got the wrong one). Kiwis still would have welcomed them.

  • @pbandj7764
    @pbandj77643 жыл бұрын

    Great interview. Most informative. Learned lots. Real time commentary was a disaster.

  • @dsmith5940
    @dsmith59403 жыл бұрын

    The learning here is foiling is almost everything; this is hardest in light airs; so this is hardest to design for - so design for those conditions ‘structurally’ - then develop the dynamic methods to ‘dial up to’ higher wind-speeds. In essence, Ineos and AM seemed to design for higher wind speeds and tried to ‘dial down’ to the lighter stuff and failed; LR took opposite approach and succeeded

  • @salmiakki5638

    @salmiakki5638

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hopefully you are right, but let's wait for rhe AM before talking about ETNZ

  • @matthew_kiely
    @matthew_kiely3 жыл бұрын

    My opinion Luna Ross had a faster boat and dominating the starts gave them an advantage, maybe stronger winds may have favored INEOS. With INEOS background outside of sailing I expect them to be back as a big threat.

  • @briansture4353
    @briansture43533 жыл бұрын

    The Italian boat looked lighter and the hull looked stiffer and sleeker whereas the British boat hull looked heavy and not so streamlined.

  • @adrianobonaldo8941

    @adrianobonaldo8941

    3 жыл бұрын

    Brian the design of LR is fantastic very simple, I think is the touch of an artist or stylist. If I remember Prada is a style brand very famous. I dont know but is beautiful really, the boat look like very light, for sure is the hands of a fantastic designer behind this project.

  • @johne6479
    @johne64793 жыл бұрын

    Back in Bermuda everyone was saying Spithill was going to smash Burling in the starts, but as history tells us that didn't even come close, 7 vs 2 in starts to ETNZ . . .hoping the same will occur, but i doubt ETNZ will have it as easy.

  • @PlanetSailOnline

    @PlanetSailOnline

    3 жыл бұрын

    V good point but.....those were very different starts, drag races to the line and not the traditional upwind start

  • @johnmartin7158

    @johnmartin7158

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi John ! Looking forward big time to the Cup final. Have to apply for refunds form Airbnb due to level 3 in Auckland.

  • @johne6479

    @johne6479

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@johnmartin7158 Hi John, when i heard about the latest shutdown i hoped it wouldn't affect your trip to Taranaki, but alas it was not to be . .and mate like you i can't wait for the racing to begin . .you and the good wife stay safe my friend . . ps hope the refund comes through for you :-)

  • @AntiVaganza

    @AntiVaganza

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@PlanetSailOnline I am with you on this. Burling has not looked strong in (m)any starts in this class at all. Especially not up against Spit/Bruni

  • @vassallo49
    @vassallo493 жыл бұрын

    Penso comunque che Luna Rossa sia generalmente più veloce di Ineos, come equipaggio sono altrettanto bravi.

  • @alessandrobargellini6445
    @alessandrobargellini64453 жыл бұрын

    Lezioni di vela da Luna Rossa 7-1 bella lezione 👋

  • @fenackerpan
    @fenackerpan3 жыл бұрын

    The question is..how much of the final racing will show max skills in sailing, or max skills in boat design? I hope it's the former!

  • @robertox959
    @robertox9593 жыл бұрын

    before the finals the media said the italians will cry at the end but its not finished like they thought you still think that you sailed well in final but you didnt watch the score you was beaten you must a little be critics of your boat you was blown out 7 1 finish the story but its good to start as an underdog and we ll see in the future

  • @BuzzLightyear9999
    @BuzzLightyear99993 жыл бұрын

    It’s a mistake to believe “he’s Sir Ben Ainsley... he’s the best sailor in the world...” Ben is amazing, but so is Jimmy Spithill, so is Pete Burling, so is Dean Barker etc. etc... any one of these guys on their day is a gold medal sailor and Jimmy Spithill is arguably the most experienced America’s Cup match-racer alive... the guy is a tactical, fearless beast at the start and on the edges of the course... don’t ever underestimate what any of these guys can do, even with an inferior boat...🤷‍♂️

  • @PhilbyFavourites

    @PhilbyFavourites

    3 жыл бұрын

    It’s still falling with style....

  • @BuzzLightyear9999

    @BuzzLightyear9999

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@PhilbyFavourites (that’s funny...! To infinity and beyond to you sir... 😉)

  • @afopoczta
    @afopoczta3 жыл бұрын

    changing the skipper woul have helped

  • @cindyullsee393
    @cindyullsee3933 жыл бұрын

    Hats off to TUK for that massive Christmas Cup turn around though, it was awesome to watch. Pity you didn't win a couple on that 15knt day Ben, just one more day & it might have turned out (a little bit) different.

  • @LucaPonzio
    @LucaPonzio3 жыл бұрын

    It's not just the boat, the wind, it's the blood that makes the difference. Italy sailed with the heart on the wheel. The merit of the victory belongs to the whole team! A boat without crew does not exist. Kiwis, the Italians are coming! 💪🏻I T A L I A 🇮🇹❗️

  • @ronricard249

    @ronricard249

    3 жыл бұрын

    I totally agree. I'm a Canadian prairie boy. I have never sailed in my life but I am trying to learn as much as I can. I love watching these AC75s and I especially love Luna Rossa.

  • @danfrednz

    @danfrednz

    3 жыл бұрын

    first with the head, second with the heart.. we're ready for you Italy. bring it on. :)

  • @mitchand9

    @mitchand9

    3 жыл бұрын

    You can have the heart of a champion and still be beaten by a faster boat. You're talking about old school sailing where everything down to vmg wasn't done by computer systems onboard the boat. If both boats are the same then yes. It comes down to the heart and soul. LR won not because of hearts on the wheel. Their boat was far more superior. I can tell you now if both crews swapped boats, the Brits wouldn't have lost. Period. The kiwis also thank the Italians for coming but like every trip you've made down under. You'll only be leaving disappointed and empty handed.

  • @salmiakki5638

    @salmiakki5638

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Alessandro Ponzio, I'm glad LR won too, but what you said it's a pretty dumb thing to say, as others already pointed out

  • @LucaPonzio

    @LucaPonzio

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@danfrednz It is a cultural issue my friend. In the same way that a boat without crew does not exist, a brain without a heart does not work. That's our difference!

  • @shinybaldy
    @shinybaldy3 жыл бұрын

    I find it really puzzling that teams are designing for wind ranges as if historical weather data isn’t available? The Kiwis designed for light winds in Bermuda and at the time, all the other teams that had been training in Bermuda were caught off guard? Same deal with Ineos. How could they have not expected the light conditions here?

  • @cindyullsee393

    @cindyullsee393

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah hilarious Grant & Ben saying great class of boats but then Ben chipping in a bit of a flaw in the light, well Ben don't blame the class for that the other three boats didn't do too bad in the light. At least he's starting to come around to the idea that he was pwnded by Spittle n Co in the prestarts.

  • @howardtennant5766
    @howardtennant57663 жыл бұрын

    I gather from your debrief the Brits and us were disadvantage because they received the rules late my question is how late ? Was it a matter of days or months

  • @neutronalchemist3241

    @neutronalchemist3241

    3 жыл бұрын

    AM had been the first to launch boat 1 (late august/early sept 2019) Then ETNZ (8 sept 2019), then Luna Rossa (2 oct 2019) then Ineos (4 oct 2019). since then, the development had been driven by the data gathered sailing with the boat. So AM and Ineos were not significantly behind.

  • @neutronalchemist3241

    @neutronalchemist3241

    3 жыл бұрын

    More. Boat 1 of AM, ETNZ and Ineos all had flat bottoms. LR boat 1 was the only one that had a keel to separate the air flux (even if less pronounced that the one of the definitive boat). LR and Ineos trained together in Cagliari in jan-feb 2020. LR shown to be much faster. www.giornaledellavela.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/fn-luna-rossa-ineos-s-elia-2020-004.jpg www.giornaledellavela.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/fn-luna-rossa-ineos-s-elia-2020-010.jpg www.giornaledellavela.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/fn-luna-rossa-ineos-s-elia-2020-015.jpg Notice the different height of the boats on the water. How much LR is tilted forward and towards the wind to make the keel skim the surface. Until that moment, all the commentators believed that trim was a balance problem of the boat. After Cagliari, Ienos added a fin to the boat. www.sailingscuttlebutt.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/2020-09-25_7-42-25.jpg So LR understood better than the other teams the aerodynamic of the AC75 from the start, but not because they knew the rules before, since they were ahead of ETNZ too at that point. All the others "copied" LR with boat 2. You can also see from the picture how INEOS boat 1 had a boomless mainsail too, like LR (so it was not a loophole that LR could exploit because they knew the rules in advance). They decided to abandon it later, while LR mantained it.

  • @howardtennant5766

    @howardtennant5766

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you I think your answer was helpful but missed my question as design and planning cannot start before the technical regulations are released. The video seem to suggest NZ and the Italian's received there regs before GB and USA is that correct

  • @neutronalchemist3241

    @neutronalchemist3241

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@howardtennant5766 The class rules had been released on 29 march 2018, so one year and half before the launching of the first boats and just 9 months after the end of the previous America's Cup.

  • @dibqip

    @dibqip

    3 жыл бұрын

    ETNZ and Prada Pirelli as Challenger of Record worked together to develop the class rules. Then they published them. This is the way things are done for the Americas cup so don’t think of it as some kind of unusual conspiracy. However it does mean that those teams do have a head start advantage. In this case 3-4 months over the US and UK teams. The US and UK teams knew this going into the competition and there were other teams that decided not to compete. It is fair to comment that it would be preferable for the sport to include other teams in the class rules stage but that’s not the current process. (I am a British team Ineos fan)

  • @00BillyTorontoBill
    @00BillyTorontoBill3 жыл бұрын

    You've spent 100 million top develop a boat for speed. So you dont wnat to show your cards too early. Everybody sandbags until it counts and they are behind...... Thats the explanation for the racing up til now. Ineos showed their hand .. but Luna Rossa seems to be able to beat 3 Aces. Im thinking the final races will be the same. One boat will dominate. Who points higher might be the question. Even in a even set up one helmsman could be the difference....thats 1 of 3...lol.

  • @bradclifton5248

    @bradclifton5248

    3 жыл бұрын

    They should have delayed their last set of foils. Nz put out last set on later and our boat in the water later. So we had the rules earlier but spent more time on top of that getting the design right.

  • @catothecensor
    @catothecensor3 жыл бұрын

    LR was a far superior package. Full stop.

  • @istra70
    @istra703 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, good interview and just what I was expecting.... blame it on conspiracy and weather and wind ..........But if you do that - than you haven't learn anything...... Can't wait for Luna Rossa to bring "old mug " to Italy.

  • @roderick167

    @roderick167

    3 жыл бұрын

    excuse me?? take the cup to Italy? you dreamin

  • @108hindu

    @108hindu

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@roderick167 sometimes dreams become reality, like the NZ win in 95.

  • @paolozampieri2691

    @paolozampieri2691

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@roderick167 did you say the same about the Australians, the Swiss and the Kiwis back in the old days? Sorry if you are butt-hurt, we shall try anyway. LR can’t do any worse than glorious INEOS,can they?

  • @istra70

    @istra70

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@roderick167.....Is dreaming illegal ?

  • @mlsarchitect

    @mlsarchitect

    3 жыл бұрын

    What do you expect -- it's like you never dealt with the Brits before. Every time they lose there's a thousand reasons [excuses] why and [of course] the opponents always cheated. That's the thing that their cousins, the Americans, learnt from them -- ask the Donald -- "Stop the Steal". Meanwhile, they're asking for illegal extensions of time and the umpires are making all manner of "innovative" interpretations of the rules. If you stick to the rules, you're a bad sport. Imagine what the British press would have said if they had won and the Italians had told them to f#*k off, we're not training with you as is traditionally done. I mean we know how big 'tradition' is in Jolly Ol' England, don't we. Always the gent, Sir Ben.

  • @venomguysydney
    @venomguysydney3 жыл бұрын

    it was a slow boat

  • @nelly2743

    @nelly2743

    3 жыл бұрын

    Muppet go back to bed before you hurt yourself!

  • @simonladd4262
    @simonladd42623 жыл бұрын

    Nice interview - but sound was poor.

  • @peterrose8944
    @peterrose89443 жыл бұрын

    If the winds were stronger the result would have been the same, They need a few more Aussie and Kiwi people to stop that good loser ethos that haunts the Brits.

  • @cinemar

    @cinemar

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well said.

  • @antoninbesse795
    @antoninbesse7953 жыл бұрын

    Good interview but nothing of substance on why the Brits lost all those races in the final.

  • @mlsarchitect
    @mlsarchitect3 жыл бұрын

    I guess, this time 007 got f#*ed.

  • @cinemar
    @cinemar3 жыл бұрын

    I see team UK still haven't learned how to acknowledge that they were simply out sailed and beat definitively by a better team. At no point has Ben Ainsley acknowledged Jimmy Spithill as the naturally gifted sailor that he is. It's not just about his talent. It's about his will to survive no matter what. He has helmed two boats to win the America's cup for a reason. As long as Team UK continue to deny the real reasons they lost the longer the cup will remain off UK shores. If Ben Ainsley and co think they were beat by a faster boat that needs light wind then they are clearly afraid of performing a true post mortem on why they lost. Luna Rossa also beat Team UK in stronger winds. Apart from that why on earth would you build a boat that can't win in 10 - 12 knot wind which is the average wind speed of the Hauraki Gulf? No one was talking about Luna Rossa being a faster boat in the December World Series or the round robins where they barely won a race. But they picked themselves up during the semis and then slaughtered team UK in the finals. Is it seen as some kind of weakness for team UK to acknowledge they were out sailed? The stiff upper lip will keep the cup out of British hands.

  • @simplesimon3283
    @simplesimon32833 жыл бұрын

    YSOB FREE ASSANGE UK

  • @amirbarmaor
    @amirbarmaor3 жыл бұрын

    The Italians won because they work better as a team, better match racers, allow the 'commoners' to steer and learn faster from their mistakes. And what's up with the 'sir' and 'the boys'?

  • @AntiVaganza

    @AntiVaganza

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's a British thing. Ainslie got knigthed, I think after he became the most succesful Olympic sailor, and some people think they then need to call him "Sir". And Brits like to call men for boys, just like Americans like to call people of all genders for guys. The Italians also won on pure boat speed, for sure. But yep, their skippers are the best in pre-starts and close duals for sure. Can't wait for them to make Burling look scared again. But I'm afraid LR can win as many starts as they want and NZ may still just drag race away from them in their butt ugly boat. Which will at least prove that it's not true that pretty boats are fast. But then again, I would like to be proven wrong.

  • @amirbarmaor

    @amirbarmaor

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@AntiVaganza Looking forward to exciting matches. 'Sir' Ben is right that the price should be lowered to allow more teams to hit the water. It wouldn't hurt to also have some women on the water.

  • @CG-99
    @CG-993 жыл бұрын

    What future does this event realistically have? Budgets are now just too high and the media coverage outside NZ is minimal. Impossible to be competitive on less than $100m. The Italians have already said they won’t be back. Hard to see the team UK backers stumping up another £100m for another go at it. ......and after the very early departure of the Americans, having not even won a race, will they really be back......??? Is the cup dead?

  • @johne6479

    @johne6479

    2 жыл бұрын

    this hasn't aged well . .UK challengers' of record, Italia and America both back, with Alinghi's return confirmed as well . .hoping 1 or 2 more may throw their hats in too

  • @cburton7042
    @cburton70423 жыл бұрын

    Love seeing non-English churning out the ‘arrogant Brit’ slogan. Hilarious.

  • @mlsarchitect

    @mlsarchitect

    3 жыл бұрын

    Love seeing the 'arrogant Brits' getting their asses handed to them... 120+ years in a row. That's gotta hurt.

  • @atapene

    @atapene

    3 жыл бұрын

    I don't think they were arrogant. Ben just isn't the guy in a team boat that he is in his own boat when it's just him. Can't be good at everything

  • @BuzzLightyear9999

    @BuzzLightyear9999

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@atapene I don’t buy that at all... you’re seriously underrating Jimmy Spithill, Pete Burling etc. etc. if you don’t think all those guys are all in the same class... if you asked Ben over a beer, he’d be the first to say “any of those guys is capable of handing me my arse - if I don’t sail a 100% perfect race, you can bet everything you have that one of them will...”

  • @atapene

    @atapene

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@BuzzLightyear9999 i agree. What's to argue? Someone's got to win, the others were better sailors in a better team. What don't you agree with? Ben made some crucial decisions on his own shoulders that ended up being wrong and cost races. The other guys didn't make those mistakes.... They are better sailors. Could be Ben is better in his own little boat, his record is very different in team boats.

  • @BuzzLightyear9999

    @BuzzLightyear9999

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@atapene I’m not “arguing”, I’m just stating that even 1 on 1 in a solo boat Ben is no “better” or “worse” than these other guys. Ben Ainsley vs Pete Burling vs Spithill in a Laser or Moth class boat...? You may as well say “rock, paper, scissors”... Ben’s no “better” than these other guys in a solo boat and he’d be the first to say stop lionising him and elevating him above all the other elite sailors...🤷‍♂️

  • @markpeacock6345
    @markpeacock63453 жыл бұрын

    Bloody boring courses.

  • @panismith1544
    @panismith15443 жыл бұрын

    Come on!!! Luna - Rossa!!! Next Bet those sheep 🐑 lovers. Cuzo!!!!🇮🇹

  • @PhilbyFavourites

    @PhilbyFavourites

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nationalism at its finest sir, I salute you 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾

  • @salmiakki5638
    @salmiakki56383 жыл бұрын

    I don't know how the one's saying Ben Ainslie Is a good sport can say that with a straight face. If he were, he now would be sailing with LR and helping them gaining on ETNZ. Secondly, the only politics I saw in this AM, was from Ineos wanting to continue racing against the rules of the Cup, so him citing it as a reason they lose is both nonsensical and false. Good sport huh? I don't know. Great sailor and all. But stay away from pr and interviews if you can't handle to lose to a better team(team, sailing and package wise)

  • @General_Crock

    @General_Crock

    3 жыл бұрын

    So NZ and Prada withholding the AC75 design rules from the other competitors wasn't politics? What was it, plain ole' cheatiing?

  • @salmiakki5638

    @salmiakki5638

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@General_Crock Sorry but that's just the sport is structured It has been this way ever since there have been more than one challenger. They knew this before entering the competition. If they were not ok with this, they could not bother in the first place. It's like doing your first year in f1 and a the end of the season faulting the entering fee for your unsuccess

  • @UgoMendesDonelli

    @UgoMendesDonelli

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@General_Crock laughable: NZ waited till the last minute to develop 2nd boat. INEOS trained in Cagliari in the same waters as LRPP to be able to see what they were doing. INEOS came up with a clever solution to the grinding problem. They had 3 years and 2 boats for development. They lost because of complacency. And now are complaining because of complacency, and won't be able to improve if they don't acknowledge their errors.

  • @neutronalchemist3241

    @neutronalchemist3241

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@General_Crock Plain old whining. The class rules had been released on 29 march 2018, so one year and half before the launch of the first boats, and just 9 months after the end of the previous AC. AM had been the first to launch boat 1 (late august/early sept 2019) Then ETNZ (8 sept 2019), then Luna Rossa (2 oct 2019) then Ineos (4 oct 2019). Since then, the development had been driven by the data gathered sailing with the boat. So AM and Ineos were not significantly behind. Ineos even trained with LR in jan/feb 2020 in Cagliari. What did they want more? LR's blueprints?

  • @AntiVaganza

    @AntiVaganza

    3 жыл бұрын

    You make it sound like it's obviously the right thing to train with LR. But who made it so, besides you? That's just naive. I am sure Aisnlie is already thinking about the next cup and perhaps Ineos has already pleaded they will support him.Either way, he would only want to spar with them if there's enough in it for him. Could be shared tech, def some quid pro quo and perhaps the terms offered with LR just weren't good enough for the Brits. This is not your one-design club racer where you pair up for five mins to check your trim. I am fairly sure any sparring would involve negotiations and contracts and as such, there's more in it than just being a "good sport". Besides, it doesn't make you a sore loser, that you don't want to help the team that just thrashed you get even better.

  • @atapene
    @atapene3 жыл бұрын

    Just heaps of bad decisions. They had a boat good enough. Skipper just go back to individual sport, rubbish team player, couldn't take the pressure in the end.

  • @00BillyTorontoBill

    @00BillyTorontoBill

    3 жыл бұрын

    Boat was slower....

  • @mlsarchitect

    @mlsarchitect

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@00BillyTorontoBill I guess the Italians must have built it for them....

  • @pmjbacon
    @pmjbacon3 жыл бұрын

    After the Christmas Cup cancelation the final was down to just luck...

  • @pmjbacon

    @pmjbacon

    3 жыл бұрын

    Luna had conditions that favored them perfectly...

  • @morfeo65

    @morfeo65

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sure....just luck.

  • @ArthurDentZaphodBeeb
    @ArthurDentZaphodBeeb3 жыл бұрын

    Ainsley keeps saying 'it's sport'. I don't see any 'sport' whatsoever - it's technology. Ineos was simply slower - no amount of skill was going to overcome a well-trained, faster Italian boat. If they want skill, let's see them all sail the same identical design. And it's silly that hundred-million dollar boats only race for 20-30-40 minutes - let's see a multi-hour races where tactics and various wind/tide conditions make the racing interesting. These boats are cool to watch, but the racing is boring.

  • @neutronalchemist3241

    @neutronalchemist3241

    3 жыл бұрын

    They are technological, but man-powered. In a AC75 the grinders have not a moment of rest (they accumulate hydraulic power for the manuvers). A multi-hour race would be a competition of muscles and stamina.

  • @PhilbyFavourites

    @PhilbyFavourites

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@neutronalchemist3241 I’ll be honest the grinders are a waste of time. Make it a four person crew, skipper, tactician, flight controller, jib trimmer, main trimmer. Damn that’s five....... I don’t think fitness is to be rated in this game. Battery power the lot of them

  • @joolscornwell1307
    @joolscornwell13073 жыл бұрын

    I understand the cost but 🇬🇧 what the hell has happened to our history as a sea fairing nation. Get up and stand on fore deck and take the helm and lead with might ..! 🇬🇧💪🌎 💧 Well done GB 🇬🇧. I know a lot of hard work and finance has gone into this challenge but 🇬🇧 but we could at least come second. 🦷👑⚖️🇬🇧 . FGS . 👍😇😇

  • @memorykara222
    @memorykara2223 жыл бұрын

    thats why luna rossa said fuck the covid level cos they knew it was light wind racing

  • @neutronalchemist3241

    @neutronalchemist3241

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ineos should have won at least one of the two races sailed in strong wind to say it was the wind's fault.

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