great, as if my day wasnt bad enough, now i have to watch this slop

@kolbycampbell3957

8 ай бұрын

Can't tell if this is an inside joke or pin of shame

@dinodude6992

8 ай бұрын

@@kolbycampbell3957 Perhaps both-both

@DylanJo123

8 ай бұрын

@@kolbycampbell3957 Im assuming its a joke we're not in on since homie is acting like he didnt have a choice in watching the video. Pancreas must be holding a gun to his head or something lol

@SK-ww7ud

8 ай бұрын

​@@kolbycampbell3957man's a channel member so fairly safe bet on the joke lmao

@DylanJo123

8 ай бұрын

​@@imvictorhugscant rule out that possibility lol. OP blink twice if youre in danger

The imperium is literally lead by the 13th primarch i am shocked people are in denial of this

@wingedhussar8552

8 ай бұрын

Now I need some skaven to venerate Guilliman as an avatar of the great horned rat, much to his confusion

@EungsuLee

8 ай бұрын

@@wingedhussar8552 Robot Gorillaman is a Verminlord, Senatorum Imperialis is the Council of Thirteen, AdMech is Clan Skryre, Officio Assasinorum is Clan Eshin, and Adeptus Astartes is the army of Rat Ogres. PERFECT.

@rh0mbus104

8 ай бұрын

​@@wingedhussar8552 and the Great Horned Rat's anger.

@BrBetim

8 ай бұрын

@@EungsuLee You can even have the Custodes as the stormvermins and your average guardsmen as the clanrats. Truly perfect.

@loomi1481

8 ай бұрын

Don’t care, want rat

If the Skaven were to ever get in the 40k universe, they'd be so at home on the Empire they'd think the Emperor was some incarnation of the Great Horned Rat

@alderbernhardt

8 ай бұрын

Eeeeh no. They'd still try to kill the man things

@yokaiou5848

8 ай бұрын

​@alderbernhardt not so sure, they live in Warren's, backstabbing is politics and their technology is hostile to life. They fit right in in the Imperium.

@shiftygypsy89migh41

8 ай бұрын

We can dream....its a big universe.

@Athetos_Admech

8 ай бұрын

If the skaven could be convinced to tolerate human leadership, worship big E as the living incarnation of their god or vice-versa (kinda like how the mechanicus get away with worshiping thier machine god), and purge Clan Pestilens (they seem to be cursed/blessed by Nurgle and are suspected of heresy by the other skaven clans) then there is an extremely slim chance that the high lords of terra might decide to bring them into the fold as a 'forgotten abhuman strain'. There used to be minotaur-like beastmen that were under imperial rule but were later persecuted because of their resemblance to demons, so it wouldn't be the first time something like that happened. The Great Horned Rat's influence might also escape the notice of most Inquisitors because, unlike the other chaos gods who rely on demonic underlings and possessed psykers, the Great Horned Rat almost exclusively works through the skaven who still have free will. The Great Horned Rat's more subtle influence might be dismissed by all but the most puritanical factions as a combination of local superstitions and the actions of skaven psykers.

@Tokumastu1

8 ай бұрын

Skaven looking at the Emperor like "That's not a no-fur! Dried husk is Skaven-champion of Great Horned Rat! We must purge-kill the no furs infecting Skaven Imperium!"

"This is a World of Warcraft game" no the fuck it isn't KZread, thank you for that

@podero2.022

8 ай бұрын

Eh, close enough.

@WAAAAAGH1984

8 ай бұрын

Blizzard are rats though to be fair

@Slick-Salamander

8 ай бұрын

Why don't you World of Warcraft some bi-*I am instantly vaporized*

@kakkakapwppwow

8 ай бұрын

It is, wake up bro...

@edmundthespiffing2920

8 ай бұрын

Then why do you show and talk of Captain Picard ?

I was in a rogue trader game where the Priest brought skaven on board the ship and made them worship the emperor. Then the techprist made some of the skaven worship the ommnisiah and the skaven had a religious civil war. Nothing came of it because the ship suffered catastrophic geller field failure.

@JaysonVaughn

8 ай бұрын

that shit is hilarious! any more silly rogue trader stories?

@olorinmagus4479

8 ай бұрын

Did the catastrophic gellar field failure have anything to do with the skaven civil war on board?

@natalie6811

8 ай бұрын

“Catastrophic Gellar Field Failure” That’s just what the Skaven want you to think

@skeeter5076

8 ай бұрын

Sounds like a classic RT game

@skeeter5076

8 ай бұрын

RT is definitely my favorite of the FFG RPGs

I desperately want a short story about the Skaven opening up a portal to an Imperial Hive City where they have to fight against Gene Stealers and Imperials. Then get wiped from existence either through their own incompetence or the Great Horned Rat physically pulls them back into the Mortal Realms because he can't accept his children not being under his control in another universe.

@jamesmckenna4460

8 ай бұрын

Or they bring the great horned rat with them and make the far future a lot more interesting

@BS-cc4ks

8 ай бұрын

@@jamesmckenna4460 The Great Horned Rat getting a Loss would be, by far, the most interesting thing to do with him.

@andresmarrero8666

8 ай бұрын

​@@jamesmckenna4460that sounds more likely. It is either that or the planet blows up due to the sheer concentrated manipulative vice, and the rats still live.

@WeOnlyEatSoup

8 ай бұрын

Yes please what a fun one off short story this could be 😭 skaven vs genestealers fighting over a hive city that gets the inquisition treatment in the end lol

@Bluecho4

8 ай бұрын

I would go the other way: the Great Horned Rat is strong in AoS, but has no worshipers in 40K like the other Chaos Gods. So sends Skaven through the portal to give him a foothold in that galaxy. What follows is a massive war in the hive, where the Imperium is faced with its furry counterparts on a one-to-one basis. The Imperium wins, despite incompetence, backstabbing, and internecine conflict (on both sides). But in true Imperium fashion, they fail to learn anything from the experience. Plus, some Skaven stow away on their ships, ensuring the rat-men will spread throughout the galaxy.

There was a 40k novel where one of the main characters was talking about a joking theory that rats have spread so far and so ubiquitously on human worlds that the Imperium is intact just a vehicle for rats to Conquer the stars, if that's not a set up for space skaven, mutant 'intelligent' rats hiding under the Imperium then I dont know what is

@sergeantsharkseant

4 ай бұрын

I am pretty sure that is one of the gaunt ghosts novels Dan Abnett always has the best ideas, wonder who came up with the necron pylons on cadia? It was Abnett. anyways I remember in the same book and in others it was mentioned that earths rats often mutate and cross breed with local lifeforms creating monsters. It would be absolutely fitting if in some underhive rats evolved to skaven and started building their underempite across the stars due to how ships work their lower decks also are perfect hiding spaces for scum and due to mutations being rampant at these locations nobody would bat an eye. A year ago or so the liber. xenos was released an in canon xenos study book. And on the hrud it was theorized that there have been two species independently been described as the hrud due to similar behavior. And I remember rat like xenos being mentioned being on the black star fortress too

"You are now picturing a skaven sister of battle. Have fun with that." Okay! I'm picturing Gadget Hackwrench in sororitas armor.

@Bloodlyshiva

5 ай бұрын

No good. Skaven treat their females and breeders and nothing more.

@longwlenguyen4214

2 ай бұрын

Either that or Naked Mole Rat queen because they’re weird and ironically opposite of Skaven despite similar outcome when it came to succession to the throne.

i fondly remember that one combat report where a skaven army was fighting the lizardmen and the skaven dud was using an assassin from house eshin. the asssassin had the ability to shadow jump across the map, was carrying a warp bomb. when chance presented itself assassin jumped over into the back of enemy leader slain mr frog mage rolled to deploy his warp bomb spectacularly failed. activated bomb > didnt drop bomb > jumped back to own side > bomb activated > blew away half the skaven army

@captainnyet9855

8 ай бұрын

Taking out a Slann and a rival clan's army all in one go; could barely have planned it better myself.

@henryficklin3333

8 ай бұрын

Peak Skaven moment

@sukhrobmirzodavlatov2385

4 ай бұрын

Average skaven batlle tactic in a nutshell

I always joke with my friends, a literal skaven representation in 40k peaked its head out of the tunnels, saw the state of the galaxy, went "Nope" and fled back into hiding in the tunnels

@krel7160

7 ай бұрын

"Human-things gone crazy-mad! Hide-seek the Underhive!"

We need Space Skaven because I want to see a faction with tech as powerful and advanced as Necrons, while being even less stable and reliable than anything made by the Orks

@catalyst9955

8 ай бұрын

I would absolutely love this

@PeachDragon_

8 ай бұрын

Agreed

@AnnoyanceHazard

8 ай бұрын

@@pinkythemighty What do you mean "it wouldn't be lore friendly". When man was barely discovering flintlocks the skaven were experimenting with warp artillery and frankensteins monsters proving great technical aptitude for the rats. Humanities tech was not just dropped in a day but developed over millennia and skaven tech would have developed in parallel. Even if humanity did start out advancing the rats they would just copy the human tech and adapt it to their own needs, like what happened during the world wars. If you are talking about the DaoT then humanity was not genocidal during that time. Just like dark age humanity did NOT wipe out the orks(species who literally lives just to plunder and kill in a war) they would not have genocide the skaven but probably keep them contained to their own skaven star systems in a form of space quarantine. So the only canonical time humanity could have massively out tech the skaven was the time they would just contain them to a small set of space. And if you mean the interpretation of "skaven were on a primitive planet then suddenly lol imperium colonizes it" the existence of gene stealer cults proves the imperiums "tech" to locate much of anything is long in the past. TLDR: People who most confidently state that something is against the lore think the least about it.

@Teaseal8

8 ай бұрын

​@@pinkythemightyso did you not read anything they just said (type whatever you want to call it) or what?

@calebbarnhouse496

8 ай бұрын

​@@pinkythemightystop being asinine, the skaven had better tech development in the same amount of time as empire, they easily could have had tech on par with golden age humanity, they wouldn't be the only faction that did

The Imperium is basically the empire and skaven fusion form

@nonya1366

8 ай бұрын

faith, steel, gunpowder, AND DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM ROCKETS YESYES

@burningbronze7555

8 ай бұрын

With some bretonian

Imagine you read the Hive Mind and you find out it was the Great Horned Rat all along.

@nonya1366

8 ай бұрын

The tyranid hivemind doesn't have enough infighting- *Glances at the hive fleets eatting eachother* The tyranid hivemind doesn't have enough infighting at the lower levels.

@Leofilmperson

8 ай бұрын

The Tyranid expansion book for Epic 40k contained a forgotten piece of lore wherein a fullblooded tyranid organism (possibly a fleshborer) manages to communicate with inquisitor Kryptman. The speech patterns were rather skavenlike. "We must hunt the fleshthings. Quick quick."

@nonya1366

8 ай бұрын

@@Leofilmperson Wait, tyranids are just skaven who learned to work with eachother most of the time?

@Leofilmperson

8 ай бұрын

@@nonya1366 They're thematically connected by insatiable hunger.

@kabob0077

8 ай бұрын

@@nonya1366 The Brain has no idea what the Left or Right Hands are doing.

That bell ringing in Trazyn's museum 13 times only coincidentally rang right before Cadia got deleted. It ACTUALLY summoned the skaven, who have been infesting the web way and sneakily infecting the galaxy at large since then. Eventually the Eldar are gonna find giant rats building shanty towns everywhere and wonder how the hell this happened.

@cheesebucket142

7 ай бұрын

The webway would be the perfect way to have the whole "there's always a rat lurking just below the surface" thing. Gnawholes being made to infest and expand it.

@krel7160

7 ай бұрын

@@cheesebucket142 "Glory-praise the understream!"

@Biotear

5 ай бұрын

Vect just looking out his window and wondering why the fuck there's a bunch of crack dens full of giant rats with machine guns in Commoragh.

@WeaverOfStars

5 ай бұрын

@@Biotear Vect shaking down half of the Haemonculi in the city because he thinks the Skaven came from one of their really messed up experiments.

The Sisters of Clan Pestilens connection gets even stronger once you realize that both became integrated into their respective societies as a whole only after a massive civil war that resulted in their leaders having private audiences with the heads of state of the opposing faction, and said interaction resulting in a poor sop’s death & replacement by a new leader.

I'm so glad to know that I'm not the only one who thinks this. From infighting, to mad scientists, thinking their superior to every other from of life and a few other small things; the Skaven snd Imperium couldn't be more alike no matter how much some may deny it.

@gotmilk5899

8 ай бұрын

Endless bodies to chuck at their enemies, somehow shittier to themselves than they are towards everyone else the list just goes on and on

@scrollkeeper5272

8 ай бұрын

@@gotmilk5899 Indeed!

@aprinnyonbreak1290

8 ай бұрын

And yet no DOOMWHEELS Checkmate ratto

@bigsadge747

8 ай бұрын

Not to mention their super roided monsters whether be it lobotomized criminals to space marines

@dustinnabil798

8 ай бұрын

​@@aprinnyonbreak1290Can't argue with that

finally, a take on 40k that we can all agree on. now I wish the empire had wraithscreamers, psyquers that scream to create warpstone, wich is like a worse version of wraitbone.

@UltraVioletKnight

8 ай бұрын

Don't forget the doomwheel

@ekothesilent9456

8 ай бұрын

@@UltraVioletKnightspinny wheel kill man-thing! Yes-yes.

I think the biggest difference is actually a dig at the imperium and that's that the appeal of the skaven is that they refuse the status quo they are always moving forward, up through ranks, forward into the tech tree, they are always advancing, except when they are retreating but still. The empirium is cinstantly stuck and obsessed with a back sliding status quo doomed to keep backsliding

@Vaprous

8 ай бұрын

Yeah the Imperium are somehow *worse* than the Skaven.

@noabsolutelynot3660

7 ай бұрын

Use more commas. Especially when the same word repeats, i.e. "that that's"

@ToaArcan

7 ай бұрын

The Skaven don't retreat, they just advance away from the enemy!

I adore the idea of Skaven being in 40K. Imagine a Imperium exploration fleet finding a world populated with a nigh uncountable number of rat like xenos, and thinking its their homeworld they attack, only for it to be a minor colony of the Skaven Void Empire. So now the Imperium finds themselves in a new war with a species that is just as militaristic, vile and numerous as them.

@andressotil4671

8 ай бұрын

Maybe they were the Rangan

@WASDLeftClick

8 ай бұрын

Give them horde fleets made up of scavenged ships barely put together better than ork ones and flagships made of space hulks that they’ve actually managed to clear out.

@marcantiojo7703

8 ай бұрын

@@WASDLeftClick Maybe they could also be industrial revolution themed, seeing as the time was filled with rats, disease, and horrible working conditions despite the huge boom in progress.

@funfungerman8401

8 ай бұрын

damn never new anything about the rangan but they really have many similarities with the skaven from warhammer fantasy@@andressotil4671

@Kuhmuhnistische_Partei

8 ай бұрын

It's kinda fun to think about how they would've spread over multiple worlds to begin with. Maybe one day some other species landed on their planet, got swarmed and they found a way to use the ships of the invadors just long enough to get to another planet - maybe like 80% of those ships just crash and kill all skaven on board, but the remaining ones are enough to flood the new world with skaven in no time. And maybe from that day one they actually try to build their own spaceships and it's just the kind of try-and-error they do with everything. An endless line of wannabe engineers throwing together thrusters and metal hulls, cramming a bunch of skaven including 1-2 breeding mothers into it and sending it into space - if those piles of junks even manage to start without just blowing up. And once they are on multiple planets spread over the galaxy, they may also further colonize by just doing it like the first time: getting invaded by some fools just to swarm them and kill them all and send those spaceships right back to their origin coordinates filled with skaven.

Yes-yes, glory to empire-imperium of man-thing!

I imagine Age of Sigmar Skaven making Titan equivalents.

@ce4879

8 ай бұрын

They did a close version back in the Godbeast campaign to infect Behemat’s sleeping continent-sized body via colossal machines that were walking Skaven cities. Google “Lexicanum Parasite Engine” to see the Skaven equivalent of a mosquito on a world titan’s body.

@Bluecho4

8 ай бұрын

I mean, you COULD make giant Skaven robots, and run them as Chaos Gargants.

WAIT WHAT THE HELL?!? I thought the "Space Skaven = Imperium" thing was a joke soley based on "There's a lot of rats and a lot of humans basically living like rats". I never put all these things together

All this time... All this time we've wondered where the funny rat-men were... We didn't even stop to check under our noses!

@Draxynnic

8 ай бұрын

The 40K equivalent of halflings are even called ratlings, in some versions of the models I think they even have tails.

@matthewyeldig4608

8 ай бұрын

@@Draxynnic (Pulls off sunglasses) Mother of god...

@bruce2655

8 ай бұрын

classic Skaven

@roland228

7 ай бұрын

You mean check in a mirror.

@matthewyeldig4608

7 ай бұрын

@@roland228 ...Alright, fair-fair!

That's cool and all, but I still want my Space Rats.

Yes I've realized this as well. Eldars feel more human than the humans of the Imperium because the later feel more like rats while Eldars still have those Tolkein Elves characteristics.

@Draxynnic

8 ай бұрын

Possibly more accurately, the Asuryani still place value on the lives of their citizens. So from the modern human perspective, they're a much more functional society.

@PhthaloGreenskin

7 ай бұрын

Yes.

@adrianaslund8605

7 ай бұрын

Yeah the Eldar I feel are more like posthumans than the humans in 40k. With all human qualities separating us from apes refined. Greater dexterity, longevity, larger capacity for symbolic and abstract thought and complex social behaviours. With some similarities to the posthumans of Dune. The Bene Gesserit for example. The idea of humanity developing into some kind of hyperintelligent, decadent and sensuous species addicted to constant stimulation like the Dark Eldar also feels somewhat more relatable.

@Draxynnic

7 ай бұрын

@@adrianaslund8605 There is a degree to which the Eldar could be seen as a point to which 40k humans might evolve to if given the opportunity and if the warp was calmer and less destructive - longer lives, greater intelligence, greater psychic sensitivity, and a more developed sense of art.

@user-qi1jc1yn3o

2 ай бұрын

Elves in Space 😂 probably why I am more inclined to Orc, or Ork because it is so different 🫡

That is a Horus Heresy level take. But he's got a point

@andressotil4671

8 ай бұрын

How could anyone trust the guy? I mean his last name was literally Heresy

@yaelz6043

8 ай бұрын

So did Horus.

Next episode: Skaven are the Orks of Fantasy. Comic relief, mix of beasts and mad science, easily replaceable hordes, constant transitions from waaagh/vermintide to infighting.

@snickersbaja7706

8 ай бұрын

Too bad the skaven lack a Ghazghkull equivilant whom is scary competent

@jahrusalem3658

8 ай бұрын

@@snickersbaja7706 Isn't that Queek Headtaker?

@snickersbaja7706

8 ай бұрын

@@jahrusalem3658 Now that I think about it, you are right. So going with this I guess his prized trophy skulls that he speaks to are his Makari equivilant, and Karak Eight Peaks is his Armageddon equivalent

@jahrusalem3658

8 ай бұрын

@@snickersbaja7706 But then who's his Yarrick?

@obamabiden

8 ай бұрын

by process of elimination i suppose belegar ironhammer or, as a more out there suggestion: Skarsnik

They hated him because he spoke the truth

My favorite parallel between the two is that their most abundant expendable resource is their own constituents, whom are used en masse to defend their own constituents. Never gets old.

Pancreas, it's GW. They have goofed up before but when your brand is defined by it's scope and complexity, there's no way they missed the similarities to Skaven. Hell, it's probably a meta grimdark theme to make the Imperium look even worse. I'm all for it

The main difference to me is that while both societies are absolutely terrible in very similar ways, within the imperium exist at least a few individual people who are decent. Though honestly I think it might be quite interesting to see something similar for the Skaven, where there ARE actually a small few rats who try to do what's best for their kind instead of just being selfish, but the society of the under empire just crushes rats like that.

@segismundosaulalex3065

8 ай бұрын

Just like most of the imperium crushes people who actually want to do something better for others because HERESY! That or another race is quickly to dispatch them. "There can be no hope in this hell... no hope at all..."

@Dingus_Khaan

7 ай бұрын

I do like when settings do that sort of thing where factions can be systemically evil but there are good people within the bad system, and vise versa like the T'au Empire.

@ChucktheSpicyChicken

7 ай бұрын

If i remember correct there was a skaven slave that tried to raly other slaves for better lives, the other slaves were told if they kill the dude they will all be free. All the slave were killed and eaten.

@gamer47e17

5 ай бұрын

I believe there have been a few skaven that were like that, genuinely progressive, kind, etc, but they usually have to lose those qualities to survive, they get killed because such thoughts are a threat to the skaven power order, or they escape (or attempt to)

@kingalphawerewolf

4 ай бұрын

You don't understand. The constant backstabbing and forward energy IS what's best for the skaven. It's why they're the greastest power in fanasty.

When the great horned rat becomes a thing in 40K, we all know Hermann Vin strab will be leading the charge as his demon prince.

@disappointedbananas2365

7 ай бұрын

The Emperor *is* the Great Horned Rat

How could you say something so controversial yet so brave

Yes finally! Someone else seeshumanity as the ratmen we we are.

@Piemasta9000

8 ай бұрын

Yes-yes

@darkunor6687

8 ай бұрын

Yes inquisitor, this mo-moron right here.

@centercannothold

8 ай бұрын

human do share 90% DNA with rat so is not really that far off.

I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm saying how dare you?!

Honestly I never really thought about it And at first I thought it was just some weird funny hot take but then I started thinking about it and I'm coming to the realization that that makes a weird amount of sense. I mean the imperium certainly is nothing like the empire from fantasy battle aside from the most loosest sense possible. God it's like the empire and the skaven had a baby and the result was the imperium of Man. At least that's what my thoughts are before I even watch the video

@aprinnyonbreak1290

8 ай бұрын

I mean They're also the Lizardmen. Space Marines are Saurus, bioengineered super soldiers with little ability outside of war. The Imperium has massive piles of technology they don't use, because the ones who know how are dead or missing. They have a giant, psychically powerful toad mummy on a portapotty preventing everything from exploding. Their leadership is stupidly overpowered, but eternally absent. They are weirdly omnicidal despite ostensibly being the "good guys" and definitely fighting the bad guys.

@transhumanhivemind3048

8 ай бұрын

@@aprinnyonbreak1290 HAHAHA 🤣 Oh my god you are right You actually have a point there. They are the God forsaken love child of the empire, skaven and f****** lizard men!!!🤣

@monotov4765

8 ай бұрын

@@aprinnyonbreak1290 the imperium is a mix between the mortal kingdoms of the old world quite simply... from Bretonnia to Katey concerning the Skaven in the idea they are closer to the Necrons and the Tyranids in many aspects at least from what I know old world lore...

Fun fact. You can find skaven symbols in darktide

I've been thinking the same for years The things they have in common is what makes them both awesome and objectively superior

I honestly love hrud. I think them being these ever present cryptid time warpers is cool. I'd prefer them to be made into more or less space skaven since them being reasonably advanced beings of decay and time warping who swarm means there thematically very space skaven. I actually really don't want "just rats" in space, but I think skaven thematically as an army fit.

0:26 “ deservedly or not.” I am so glad to hear someone else in the fandom say this. GW’e hyper focus on the Imperium isn’t just bad for crowding out the other factions of the species. Taking them so seriously (and not in the FUN over-serious kind) ends up missing the point that everything they do is stupid, and that fascism is a loser form of government.

12:19 the Skaven actually do have a Titan-equivalent in AoS called a Parasite Engine. Parasite Engines (named for their rapacious plunder of the realms) are basically giant, walking cities created by the Clans Skryre from the underground semi-liquid warpstone to conquer and corrupt the Scabrous Sprawl while keeping them safe from the Gargants. They follow geomantic lines to extract nodes of Warpstone and other subterranean riches leaving behind underground factories and glowing craters, the land tainted and writhing in ruin at their passing. Each Parasite Engine is a many-legged, segmented abominations powered by enormous warpstone furnaces fuelled by miner-claws and deforestation maws. The chief Warlock Engineers of each of these machines compete with their rivals by creating bigger and more powerful designs. Each has unique feature, with the likes of the Drill-Stabber being a mix of rat and mosquito while others like the Scrabble-Chewer was a city made to crunch through bedrock.

By the Horned Emporer this upload better have your old public domain song playing ad nauseum in the background.

Okay, but Skaven actually existing in 40K and worshipping Emperor as the aspect of Great Horned Rat would be pretty neat and a cool move on GW. They won't do it, but can you imagine.

I can only imagine just how hard Colin was laughing at the idea of just how many people he would upset with the video title

After going through the first five audiobooks of Gotrek and Felix, it all true and hey they’re funny as hell while doing whatever the hell they do

10:00 if there are any female skaven that dont get turned into one of those monstrosities, nobody will ever know because theyll never let anyone live long enough to tell if found out

@Chapien

8 ай бұрын

I always imagined some female skaven slipped through the cracks... But they're still skaven so if anyone learns they're female they die xD

@BustyBraixen

8 ай бұрын

@@Chapien with the sheer number of skaven being born at a constant rate, it is unbelievable that every single female would be picked out for the broodmother treatment. Especially considering how sloppy amd unreliable almost every single skaven is, of course they'd miss a few female pups. Also, I'd imagine creating and maintaining a broodmother would be rather resource intensive, so I find it a little hard to believe that any given skaven clan even COULD make broodmothers out of all the females born, unless the sex ratio is VERY skewed and hardly any females are ever born

@Chapien

8 ай бұрын

@@BustyBraixen Sadly they never specify that there are more men than women born, so really we just don't know. AFAIK GW has not even brought up broodmothers in AoS.

@Kuhmuhnistische_Partei

8 ай бұрын

To be honest, I find it a bit weird, like most eusocial species (although you could argue that the Skaven are more of an eu-antisocial species) are either mostly females with males only existing as drones for reproduction (like with most eusocial insects) or it's like with naked mole-rats and you have more or less a 50/50 distribution but the queens emit some sort of hormon that basically chemically spays all the other females. And once the queen dies the daughters start to fight for dominance until one (usually the one who produces the most offspring) becomes the new queen and monopolizes sexual reproduction again - one of these war of successions in captivity lasted 16 months and nine mole-rats died. The queens are also a lot bigger than normal female workers, but they mostly grow in length so they can still move through the tunnels. They are also super aggressive against all of the unfertile workers and even against sexually unproductive males (there are usually 1-3 non-related males in a colony with the privilege to mate with the queen; although as soon as they start to become sexually active, they actually start to age rapidly). I feel like you could just take this for the skaven and it would totally fit. And it would make sense, like when a breeding mother dies, they can immediately be replaced; well, not without some conflict that will first kill off half of the clan I guess. And let's be honest, skaven look more like mole-rats than normal rats anyway. Barely anyone of them has any fur.

@longwlenguyen4214

2 ай бұрын

@@Kuhmuhnistische_Parteiyeah but naked mole rat also opposite of Skaven had somewhat anti cancer gene, live way longer than normal lifespan of rats and had a metabolism of a plant, the queen are the boss of their under kingdom unlike ant queen or Skaven “mother”, the queen can command and bully anyone around her so to her harem boy toy can have the same privilege, weirdly enough despite their society being hierarchical and smelly but when it come to food everyone is equal.

I’ve been thinking this for years, glad someone with production abilities finally put it to record.

I feel like Queek is the only Skaven that isn't an outright backstabber like the rest. Although he's unique in having a pride problem of wanting to say he's better than you as he stabs you in the face.

@gigachad5961

7 ай бұрын

Queek is still a backstabbing rat however his loyal bodyguard ska blood tail is actually a genuine loyal skaven to queek

The Imperium and Skaven are the exact same narratively speaking, you can frankly swap them in a lot of stories without changing much... Also, Ikit Claw for Fabricator-General. Neo-phosphex for everyone!

My first connection to the two was playing Dawn of War expansion and noticed the Imperial Guard’s best gimmick was moving massed of troops underground between buildings so they could swarm opponents while their heroes would kill a few cowards off to keep them fighting. Also three fun notes: 1. Skaven in AoS do a lore-version if titans with the parasite engines that infected Behemat’s body back in the Realmgate Wars. They were like walking Skaven cities on the backs on mechanical spiders or centipedes that would lower down to gobble up entire forests to keep their warpstone furnaces burning, their size and purpose was to corrupt the continental leylines in Behemat’s body like mosquitoes injecting infected blood to weaken him so Archaon could enslave him. 2. Stormcast Eternals were noted back then to have slain countless billions of Skaven nearly wiping them out and now the recent Skaven tome confirms that was true. Why was this possible? Because even though the GHR got forewarned knowledge by clans Eshin of Sigmar’s newest legions to reclaim the realms(and bring about the Age of Sigmar) he actually kept the info to himself so as to use it at the perfect moment and gain the upper hand over the other dark gods. ….but that meant not even telling his own people of the coming tempest so they got completely blindsided by these 8 foot-tall Ogor-strong immortal supermen that can blast in on lightning anywhere including deep underground tunnels to even underwater passages and bring overwhelming firepower or super-sized magic weapons to bear. If not for Clans Verminous(the warrior clans that love battle) making last stands until Chaos as a whole was able to turn it’s attention on the new threat and get it’s forces momentum against them then the Skaven would’ve been wiped out of the Realms almost entirely. 3. When attacking Alarielle in Broken Realms she turned the tables and had one cornered who tried to beg his way out that “it wouldn’t be right for a life goddess to kill someone that’s only 3 years old”. She agreed and turned him into a tree. 🌳

This recontextualizes the Great Crusade as the 40k galaxy's Vermintide

The Emperor is the Great Horned Rat. It all makes perfect sense.

RATS WE'RE RATS WE'RE THE RATS

@user-qi1jc1yn3o

2 ай бұрын

🤮🤮🤮🤮

I am still at awe at the amazing pun that is a ratling gun (which likely goes rat-a-rat-a-rat-a when it shoots to boot.) I can only dream of one day cracking such a good one myself.

Yes. With a seasoning of "The Empire of Man" and "The undead hordes of Nagash"

Love that this video cane out around the same time i started gluing spare skaven heads to guardsmen bodies, really good timing there!

I was sad about 40k not having space rats. This makes me feel better about it, lol.

I'll have to keep this in mind as a means of simultaneously trolling the imperium superfanatics and the skaven superfanatics.

No no folks. Let him cook.

Technologically, the difference is that the Imperium's Tech makes sense, but they just don't know how it works. The Skaven's tech meanwhile doesn't make any sense, but they somehow figured it out regardless.

Mechanicus making servitors is just clan moulder tbh

And another glaring middlefinger to Imperium-lovers. I salute you, good sir!

@wolfylarered8474

20 сағат бұрын

Middle finger? This the best that we can happened to all the imperium fans We are the rats all along

Played at a game store where we did alot of 3+ player mult fights. The guard had a house rule the if a commissars was within 6in of a unit could fire into melee. Roll hits then roll to see what side got hit. Called it "For the Good of the Imperium."

you know I heard about a race rat creatures similar to the skaven on a planet somewhere in the galaxy of 40k that was deemed not worth it to inhabit. So if I can make a theory it would be like the Tau a warp storm could hit the planet and somehow those rats become the Skaven. Though that if the bugs don't try to eat them first and if they can survive a warp storm in the first place.

Well, you’re not wrong . . .

I keep telling my Fantasy friends that we have skaven in 40k....they are just alot more pink skinned.

It's also kind of hilarious how many parallels there are between the Skaven and the company I work for. Clearly I need to bring carry more warpstone to job work.

Any video about the Skaven is a great video. Hearing you talk about the skaven gives me more pleasure than watching Bretonnian peasants get rin down by steam tanks or shredded by ratling guns.

If you want to play as Skaven in the 40k tabletop, you could probably do it just fine if you use GSC rules and Skaven models.

@R17inator

8 ай бұрын

Or the Veer-Myn from Warpath.

your age of empires and age of mythology bgm really sets the tone. awesome work dude

@Pancreasnowork The Scaven titans/knights are the rat ogres. Not just in size but also in that knights absorb the consciousness of their former pilots and ogres are amalgamations too.

The greyknight babycarrier is indeed something a Skaven would make. Imagine! Staring down upon the puny man-things as you stride proudly into battle! Peering down victoriously from above in your Doom-Throne!

I thought we knew this already

I love when people bring up the Babybjörn Battle Mech

As both a Skaven and Guard player, you may think the comparison is insulting... But this pleases the Great Horned Emperor.

You know, just because you're not wrong, that doesn't mean you gotta say it out loud

All the yes. Yesen't, Yesrn't.

I thought space Skaven applied to the ICOG from the Xeelee Sequence, but the Imperium fits a bit too.

" Every single skaven is a backstabbing bastard. " Clan Mors is gonna come stab you in the chest to make a point.

The title just feels wrong to read, but is surprisingly very accurate.

Hol up. He's got a point

There goes the imperium reputation. "Oh rats!"

2:05 had me rolling had to stop the video I was laughing so much poor little guy🤣

I think Skaven might be able to survive, especially if they come into contact with a minor Ork group first. They have spacecraft, repeating firearms, energy weapons, genetic modification, psykers, and even atomic weapons.

Tbh, I do want space skaven in 40k. I know the way to do it to. When we eventually get a dark mechanicum army their basic line troops could be some very suspiciously ratty soldiers.

I love that the skaven phone is called "farsqueaker"

I did it the other way round. I kitbashed ork mechs into Skaven mechs and used them as mounts for my generals and hellpit abominations.

That’s been my wild take for a bit, humanity’s primary resource is people, even alluded to it in your custodian debate the other day where I remarked that working at the imperial palace is its own fresh hell of humanity.

Damn, it is almost as if both the Imperium and the Skaven are made up of derived tropes on the worst aspects of real life humanity.

Imagine if they put these guys in 40k and they were an actually functioning empire, perhaps new and untested like the tau but still. it would be funny if the space skaven were more functional and competent than the imperium

Age of Mythology bangers never get old.

Pancreas out here pulling the pin on the metaphorical grenade that might make his pronouns: was/were like a mad lad and I can already see the reasoning one could make when looking at the skaven and the imperium.

skaven undercities on hive worlds would just be more hive world

"You are now thinking of a Skaven Sister of Battle." Well, I just learned something new and deeply concerning about myself.

The Storm Fiends we got for End Times are just Skaven Space Marines. Or more accurately, the Thunder Warriors. In both the stages of technological development, and the naming convention. (Also, both the factions in this video really love using Storm-related names).

Y'know what's hillarious? The rogue traders are the 40k empire. They're basically feudal, super fashionable, and the most technologically advanced human force in the setting. Also, the knights are 40k brettonia (feudal stereotypes up to eleven), the chaos titans are 40k chaos dwarfs (cagey evil industrialists), and the gangs of necromunda are the 40k vampire counts (petty squabbling undead/mutant abominations).

There are definitely parallels, in no small part because both pull on the Funny Moustache Man as inspiration, but I feel like the vibe of the two is very different. If we're talking about pure lore parallels, Cathay is very obviously the Imperium, or at least the 30k Imperium. In terms of aesthetics, the Empire is the obvious equivalent. And let's be real, it's not like corruption and incompetence is a distant prospect to the humans of the Old World either...

Honestly, im very glad you made this. I thought I was nuts when I noticed some of the similarities...

Skaven feels like the truly evil version of the pigs from Angry Birds

I suddenly wonder what a war between the Imperium and the Skaven would look like? More like Orks? Or would it be like Imperium vs. Chaos Militia?