The ICW - The Easiest Way - Sail to the Sun Rally

Are you traveling on a sailboat and thinking about using the ICW? Worried about water depth on the ICW? Racking up miles for your sailboat insurance or headed to the Bahamas on a sailboat? This week we interview a sailor named Wally who organized the Sail to the Sun Rally for sailors to sail from the sailboat show in Annapolis Maryland, down to Miami via the Intracoastal Waterway and the Dismal Swamp including taking a sailboat through locks, sailing North and South Carolina, anchoring and docking in marinas in Georgia, on to sailing the waterways through Florida.
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  • @frankstich1248
    @frankstich1248Күн бұрын

    OMG, my wife and I did Sail to the Sun 2016 and it still is ABSOLUTELY one of our best memories from our 10 years living aboard. BTW we are now in Fiji and have over 50K miles under our keels. Many of our best sailing friends who we remain in touch with are Sail to the Sun 2016 alumnae. Prepare for beautiful waterways, delightful people, oyster festivals, and fun city tours. The only thing that suffered was my liver from the social gatherings. Highly, highly recommend.

  • @WallyMoran

    @WallyMoran

    Күн бұрын

    As I recall...you didn't seem particularly worried about your liver at the time :) Of course, none of us were. Still remember you teaching everyone how to do knot work. That was fun!

  • @robertgreno9942
    @robertgreno9942Күн бұрын

    A fabulous opportunity for anyone who has a bucket list and needs a bit of extra help to make it happen- stop thinking about “Someday” and just do it!

  • @elliottscott6179
    @elliottscott617916 сағат бұрын

    Sounds like a good "boot camp" for cruising to me. What a great way to start a journey!

  • @oceanposse
    @oceanposseКүн бұрын

    great to see Wally in action - great interview !

  • @CheekyMonkey1776
    @CheekyMonkey1776Күн бұрын

    Excellent interview! I’m getting ready to do the ICW for the first time. THANK YOU!!!

  • @user-lq3ss9xf8c
    @user-lq3ss9xf8cКүн бұрын

    Did the ICW, with lots of outside (ocean) legs, as my first cruise as a new sailor. In fact I’m there now! It’s not as complex as people make it if you have the right tools.

  • @tomdyll2728
    @tomdyll27282 күн бұрын

    Good content. Traveling with like minded people is almost always more enjoyable.

  • @waltsailing2009
    @waltsailing2009Күн бұрын

    We met Wally and his little dog a bunch of times as we did the icw. Not part of his rally…but they all were having fun. We kind of leap frogged each other a Bunch of times and ended at the same marinas a few times and anchored in either the same places or near sometimes. Clearly a good way to do this for many for sure. Recommend. We did watch where Wally anchored and found some good off the icw spots. The charts are not always perfect and they do change. There are two other things to consider one is bobs tracks and aqua maps with the latest core of engineers surveys. Figuring out how to download bobs tracks and how to read the posts on Facebook will give you daily updates on bridge issues and shoaling

  • @WallyMoran

    @WallyMoran

    Күн бұрын

    Hey! How you doing? Where are you now?

  • @dalesingleton1543
    @dalesingleton1543Күн бұрын

    Perfect timing. Experience is priceless ! thanks

  • @SailingHusketeers
    @SailingHusketeers2 күн бұрын

    What an awesome idea for someone doing the ICW the first time. Great Video!

  • @briangross45
    @briangross452 сағат бұрын

    Great interview and I can see the value in having a boat ahead of me with less air and water draft than my 64.+’ and 7.0’. Having a laser measuring tape and calibrated depth sounder on the lead boats would really help me given the sounding boards at many bridges are a mess.

  • @1sailfast
    @1sailfast2 күн бұрын

    Done the ICW 3 times. Would not think it a good idea to do it as a group. Every boat is different. I think traveling with a group would add more challenges for slower/faster boats and those with deeper draft, or higher masts that are constrained by water level at the lower fixed bridges. There are quite a few bridges that have only 63 or 64 ft clearance (not 65). He said they travel at 5.5 knots , very frustrating when the draw bridges are timed for 6 knots. Things like that would slow the group. More expensive to stay in marinas than to anchor, and sticking to scheduled marina visits might force bad decisions. One of the most dangerous things on a boat is a schedule.

  • @WallyMoran

    @WallyMoran

    2 күн бұрын

    Those are all valid criticisms, but you not having had the experience of doing a rally, they are not accurate. I've had boats with 7 foot drafts and 64.25 high masts. Everyone got through without problems, BECAUSE of proper passage planning. In fact, there is an 8 foot draft small cruise ship that runs from Charleston to St. Augustine that does the ICW every week. So as I said, it isn't that hard, IF you know what you're doing. The only bridges that are timed to the next or previous bridge at all are those to the south of Palm Beach and through to Fort Lauderdale and Dania. There, you need to do 6.5 knots and again, if you time your passage so that you have the current behind you, it's easy. Again, that's part of the passage planning, because I don't care to hang out in front of a bridge either if I can avoid it. Yes, it's more expensive to stay in marinas. Of course, if you're dealing with a storm and a bunch of boats, it's also a lot safer and comfortable. You should join us - schedule or not, it's a great time.

  • @user-lq3ss9xf8c

    @user-lq3ss9xf8c

    Күн бұрын

    It could be fun, but not much sailing in the ICW, it might be more fun in making some of the routes on the outside.

  • @WallyMoran

    @WallyMoran

    Күн бұрын

    @@user-lq3ss9xf8c No, not much sailing on the ICW, but there is more than you would think. Outside is fine if the weather is suitable, but in the fall, a norther can come down on you very quickly and really spoil a day offshore if you're nowhere near a suitable inlet. We do actually get some outside travel in, especially for those who have never done the outside, to introduce them to the experience.

  • @cliffrobb99

    @cliffrobb99

    18 сағат бұрын

    ❤i😢

  • @cliffrobb99

    @cliffrobb99

    18 сағат бұрын

    0:13

  • @UncleJoeLITE
    @UncleJoeLITE2 күн бұрын

    This sounds a great idea & fun. Maybe one day I'll get a chance? Australians are very envious of your ICW, we have to use the Pacific.⚓

  • @pjcrow8973
    @pjcrow89732 күн бұрын

    Great episode, Love learning about the IC@, I hope to be there one day

  • @yellowsubmarine98
    @yellowsubmarine982 күн бұрын

    This was a very helpful video - thank you!

  • @oday3514
    @oday351432 минут бұрын

    I like sailing and beer... and maybe 3 people. The last thing that I would want is to be part of a hoard of 10 or more boats all competing for a slip in a marina, or space in an anchorage. I have done the ICW (2020 & 2021), but I far prefer to meet people along the way. My one piece of advice to a noob; only use the inlets in the Carolinas and Georgia that are marked for larger ships.

  • @shredderhater
    @shredderhater2 күн бұрын

    This is so cool

  • @paulouellette6881
    @paulouellette6881Күн бұрын

    Hey Wally... thanks for the "honorable mention" !!! I was always sure that an ICW Rally would be a great idea !!! Cheers !!!

  • @WallyMoran

    @WallyMoran

    Күн бұрын

    and you were SO right!

  • @maverickmyrtlebeach
    @maverickmyrtlebeach2 күн бұрын

    Just time your run when going though SC. Myrtle Beach / NC.Summer weekends are busy Kayaks to jet ski to barge travel. tourist renting boats.. wake everywhere ~

  • @mountainmandale1587
    @mountainmandale15872 күн бұрын

    Great video! I've done it 4 times, and it is quite an adventure. Plenty of groundings, and plenty of Rum-pa-pum!

  • @richardduval9237
    @richardduval92372 күн бұрын

    Interesting Thank you

  • @charles.neuman18
    @charles.neuman18Күн бұрын

    That sounds great! I'll add it to my list of things to keep in mind. I'm curious: What happens after they get to Florida?

  • @ezmn9663
    @ezmn9663Күн бұрын

    This sounds awesome! Great segment. I think the question a lot of folks are interested in is air draft and depth draft...Seems a lot of more modern boat in th3 38+ range start to get close to 6' draft + and 65'+ airdraft Are those the two max drafts respectively?

  • @kermitthefrog6363
    @kermitthefrog6363Күн бұрын

    Seems like a good idea for our friends down south however Canadians have to travel a long way just to get to wally's start. Also the $995 is almost $1400 CDN. If there was a small group from Toronto that would suit me...

  • @WallyMoran

    @WallyMoran

    Күн бұрын

    For anyone coming from the Great Lakes, I'll coach you down the Erie Canal and through to the Chesapeake. All part of the service!! The Erie is a LOT easier than people understand, the Hudson is beautiful. The Jersey coast can be intimidating if it's your first time, and there are a couple of tricks to doing the Delaware that make it a lot easier. Feel free to ask.

  • @chrisperkins290
    @chrisperkins2902 күн бұрын

    Great video...Is there a group that would begin in say, Kemah Tx, heading. to southern Florida?

  • @user-gq2xn4vv2z

    @user-gq2xn4vv2z

    Күн бұрын

    Would love some info on traveling the GIWW from FL panhandle to Kemah or even Corpus Christi. Anyone out there seen a video or have advice to share? Will be making the trip this fall.

  • @matthewchachere6607
    @matthewchachere6607Күн бұрын

    If you have issues with air draft and some of the bridges, the better mantra is "half tide dropping"!

  • @WallyMoran

    @WallyMoran

    Күн бұрын

    lol... passage planning can be a challenge with a mast over 64.25 feet.

  • @TheBeer4me
    @TheBeer4me2 күн бұрын

    Tim GOOD VIDEO!

  • @dwhetsel
    @dwhetselКүн бұрын

    Since my boat is landlocked on Lake Texoma is there a way to charter a boat for the trip?

  • @chriswatts1412
    @chriswatts141219 сағат бұрын

    The icw is a cakewalk. Let's not over dramatize everything.

  • @TheCornucopiaProject-bd5jk
    @TheCornucopiaProject-bd5jkКүн бұрын

    I like the idea, but 2 months is a long time to make it down there.

  • @Paul-ou1rx
    @Paul-ou1rx2 күн бұрын

    This is am interesting idea. If you go off the knowledge of one person's trip and the stops along the way it my not be the best route for the conditions. An easy day of sailing eating up some miles between two anchorages could be the toughest part of the trip depending on the conditions for a different year. Plus all the tips and hacks the other sailors use to troubleshoot and make their boating more enjoyable would be better than having to learn them the hard way. Plus, nothing beats local knowledge. You could end up sailing past a "local gem" and not hear about it until you are three days past it or never hearing about it. How many times will most people do this in their life, might as well make the once or the few times the most successful as possible.

  • @WallyMoran

    @WallyMoran

    2 күн бұрын

    What you've said is the whole point - seeing everything there is to see. I guarantee you, very few people know about the lemurs, the rum factory, the kazoo manufacturer, and lots of other events that I've learned about in nearly 50 trips on the ICW. As for "the best route" - there isn't another route unless you go offshore. The ICW is it. And as you note, conditions change, and I change the planning as needed to account for that.

  • @akllera
    @akllera13 сағат бұрын

    Sounds like the old wagon trains out west.

  • @augustuswright8541
    @augustuswright8541Күн бұрын

    There's an ironic fallacy at work here. So many traverse the length of the ICW without ever really stopping to consider this rich byway as a destination in and of itself. Scurry north, scurry south, and barely a pause along the way. One night anchored out in the Waccamaw will put an end to that nonsense, but there are so many more idylls just waiting to be rediscovered. Take your time, go slow, for you may not pass this way again.

  • @WallyMoran

    @WallyMoran

    Күн бұрын

    So TRUE! That's why the Rally is two months long :) And the Waccamaw, especially in the springtime, is your reward for having gone through the commercial ugliness of Myrtle Beach.

  • @Mark-y5v
    @Mark-y5vКүн бұрын

    Pay Wally a thousand bucks to follow him down the waterway at five and a half knots for how many months? There are better for your money. Practical Sailor is recommending this?

  • @WallyMoran

    @WallyMoran

    Күн бұрын

    My mom used to tell me, don't knock it if you haven't tried it. Might be good advice for you too.

  • @Mark-y5v

    @Mark-y5v

    14 сағат бұрын

    @@WallyMoran Try what? Going down the ICW or going down the ICW in a gaggle? One I've done a dozen times, the other will never happen. With the resources available today, if you can't figure out the ICW on your own, you should stay home. Its just not that hard.

  • @WallyMoran

    @WallyMoran

    14 сағат бұрын

    @@Mark-y5v I never said it was that hard. And it's not, but it's not easy either, even with the resources available now. Some folks actually ENJOY spending time with like minded people sharing the same endeavour. You're not one of them, that's fine. But does that mean you need to rain on everyone's parade, disparage other people's dreams? I had someone with your attitude on one of my rallies. Before we'd gone 200 miles, I handed him a cheque for his rally fee and wished him good luck with the rest of the ICW. He never even got to GA before giving up and hiring a captain to bring his boat south - where he sold it. YMMV.

  • @Jumbo-D
    @Jumbo-DКүн бұрын

    If you want to be guaranteed to have to anchor in over crowded anchorages, If you want to be constantly surrounded by people on boats who have no idea what they are doing, this may be just what you are looking for. Good luck .. ha ha

  • @WallyMoran

    @WallyMoran

    Күн бұрын

    uh.... that is NOT the experience that anyone has had in the last ten years. But please, feel free in your ignorance to criticize. There are a lot of Rally alumnae who will gladly tell you that you don't know what you're talking about.

  • @jonathanlewis1352
    @jonathanlewis1352Күн бұрын

    Well, this is a perfect illustration of “Different Strokes for different folks.” It sounds like an absolute nightmare to me. Sailors need to learn to be self-sufficient. They won’t learn by having their hand held and staying in marinas for the first five weeks. This isn’t cruising, it’s nursery school . You know a lot of the ICW can be done under sail. No, not motorsailing, but sailing. Does this outfit also push the unprepared and unfit “climbers” up Everest? If you want to do the INTRA Coastal Waterway, do your due diligence, prepare yourself and your boat and do it. Don’t be intimidated. Be well informed and depend on your own skills. Is Practical Sailor forgetting its raison d’etre?