A question for public debate - Was the effort to sink Tirpitz worth it? Discuss..

@PCTechHub

4 жыл бұрын

The Operations Room I think so. As you mentioned. If they hadn’t of rid the threat the RN would have had to keep a large fleet to protect the convoy and it was needed elsewhere. Until she was sunk there was a risk she to the convoys. Once sunk resources could be moved to other theatres.

@stevenlarratt3638

4 жыл бұрын

Every effort should be made to stop war machines in the time of war, kill one ship save tens and thousands of lives, if not 100's of thousands

@michaelcorey9890

4 жыл бұрын

Probably due to the propaganda coup for the allies and decimated german navy morale.

@fontaine717

4 жыл бұрын

@@PCTechHub I disagree, It took so long and so many sortie, having a few escort light carrier doing aircraft patrol could have been enough to deter the Kriegsmarine to commit the Tirpitz. Those large fleet that patrolled the north sea for 2 years could have been more useful elsewhere like you said, so having them there up until 1944 were naval power wasn't as crucial by then, was not efficient.

@dwaynehicks6838

4 жыл бұрын

If the RAF and royal navy hadn't made such an effort to sink her and let her roam freely ,how much damage would she of caused to the convoy fleets going to the USSR , how many allied sailers lives would be lost , and the supplies that the USSR desperately needed may of caused a different outcome in the war there if they didn't get what was needed

Fun detail about the smokescreens that stopped so many air attacks: It wasn't all smoke. At some point the germans got the idea to pour chemicals into the water to create thick, long-lasting fog. That stuff is still causing environmental issues today. There's a layer of toxic mud at the bottom of that fjord and every time it's disturbed, aquatic life in the area suffers.

@gareaap7806

4 жыл бұрын

and it's not like you can easily dredge it clean with all the ammunition around there. hadn't heard about that tibit though i'm gonna see if i can find more about it.

@fabiovezzari2895

4 жыл бұрын

Sad and super interesting. Where are you from? Btw, I heard that Norway once had to drain a mercury lake left by a u boat on the sea bottom

@alexanderyayy3318

4 жыл бұрын

@@fabiovezzari2895That's kinda correct. In Norway we have an u-boat at the bottom of the sea off the island of Fedje, U-864. The u-boat has mercury on board, and little has been done. There is an ongoing debate about whether to cover the u-boat with stone, or to take the u-boat to the surface and dispose of the mercury. Also, the German u-boat U-684 was sunk by the British submarine HMS Venturer underwater :) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_submarine_U-864

@alexanderyayy3318

4 жыл бұрын

Also, the trees have stunted growth in their rings around where the Tirpitz laid.

@gent.6302

4 жыл бұрын

I Will use this opportunity to thank every person who helped us during the war, giving us our freedom back. A bigger thank you than i can write down. Thank you everybody who helped us win back our freedom, so thank you England - France-The 99th division from USA (AMERICAN - NORWEGIANS) - YUGOSLAVIANS- SWEDISH - FINNISH SOLDIERS AND MANY MOORE. THANK YOU! EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU. MANY OF YOU GAVE YOUR LIFE. IT WILL NEVER BE FORGOTTEN. 🇺🇸 🇧🇻 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇫🇮🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇸🇪🇦🇺🇨🇦🇩🇰🇵🇱🇫🇷🇮🇹 All the flags represented helped us give Hitler his first bloody nose when Narvik was taken back from the Fucking NAZIS nazis. England France and the free polish soldiers were the Heroes in Narvik +Norwegians and some other nordic neighbours.

I actually live in Tromsø, the city where Tirpitz sank. The tallboy craters are still visible on the closest island. Despite the fact that i live so close, i actually learned a lot from this video!

@TheOperationsRoom

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@fabiovezzari2895

4 жыл бұрын

I find so fascinating that a big part of the naval battles of wwii occured at the borders of the world, in the arctic regions

@miketaylorID1

4 жыл бұрын

We just visited Tromsø in November. My son did a semester at the University. We Drove close to the spot it sank off Håkøya. Unfortunately, as you know, the snow came early this year and we couldn’t see the craters. Tromsø is a wonderful place! Lucky you

@Draxel

4 жыл бұрын

@@miketaylorID1 I can inform you that the snow is also leaving late this year - cause it's still there! 😅

@miketaylorID1

4 жыл бұрын

Oh no! I need to visit again when the snow is gone I think. I cannot let my son visit again. He says he will not come back.!!

My grandfather Sam Thompson was with squadron 9 as a gunner on this raid , he was also part of the dam buster raids with squadron 9 dropping the tall boy in one of the raids . He passed away last week at the age of 99 . RIP grandad , a true hero x

@JR-xo5jp

Жыл бұрын

God bless you and him .They don't make them like your grandfather generation no more .

@keithlillis7962

Жыл бұрын

A true hero - indeed RIP Sir.

@pov7853

Жыл бұрын

Wow, your sam Thompson's grandson, I've read about him May he rest in peace, a brave man and an honour to be able to give thanks to you a member of his family for his service.

@AdamMGTF

10 ай бұрын

What life, may we all be so lucky. Rest in peace sir.

@MrSharky58

4 ай бұрын

My Father and Uncles also served. . Total respect for that generation

Brilliantly done as expected. I’ll be honest. I didn’t realise how many raids there were on it.

@TheOperationsRoom

4 жыл бұрын

Me neither!

@PCTechHub

4 жыл бұрын

The Operations Room what’s next? I need another. Feed my addiction.

@KanJonathan

4 жыл бұрын

But why PQ-17 convoy battle didn't mention? Or do you plan to make a separate video about it?

@TheOperationsRoom

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah separate video. This one was very busy as it is!

@TheOperationsRoom

4 жыл бұрын

Next is Op Linebacker II. My first trip to Nam

After the war they sell it on a parts. Even today you can see a small steel sheets from Tirpitz used in the construction jobs here in Norway. It's a high quality steel!

@MrDaiseymay

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah SWEDISH. IT'S THE ONLY REASON THE NAZIS LET SWEDEN STAY NEUTRAL, SO LONG AS THEY SUPPLIED THE QUALITY STEEL THEY NEEDED FOR ARMAMENTS.

@dunruden9720

4 жыл бұрын

@@MrDaiseymay DON'T SHOUT!!

@fasthracing

4 жыл бұрын

@@MrDaiseymay Have you got a hearing aid?

@rikvermar7583

4 жыл бұрын

also i saw a documentary about the mass scuttling by the captains of about 50 captured german warships in a harbour near scotland as they rather sink them rather than hand them over to their victors - the documentary said that the steel of the sunken german boats was produced before Hiroshima and the huge amounts of oxygen needed to make the steel was pure of any spec of radiation, after the 2 nukes were used in WW2 and with all the testing of nukes around that time and after - the air has been polluted with a tiny spec of radiation and any steel produced from then now has a spec of radiation which they said is rubbish and the pre-nuke steel was so pure it is used in modern scientific lab equipment as its radiation free - mental or what

@ArxInvicta

4 жыл бұрын

@@MrDaiseymay The steel wasn't swedish, you're talking about the iron ore.

My grandfather served on the HMS Nabob(D77) an escort aircraft carrier in Operation Goodwood to sink the Tirpitz. He was a diver. He wore one of those huge metal diving helmets with the windows and was supplied air by a line (Often spoofed in Bugs Bunny cartoons). The Nabob was torpedoed by U-354 but did not sink. I have the helmet he wore on Operation Goodwood. Thanks for this video!

@sunofpeter2

3 жыл бұрын

That is pretty cool man

@Xingmey

3 жыл бұрын

Here is a hint of truth. Noone cares. Stop trying to be relevant for something someone else did. My neighbour had a dog who hunted a cat is just as valuable of a story as your bullshit

@d.olivergutierrez8690

3 жыл бұрын

"Those who do not learn from history are condemned to repeat it" or your sh*tty abridged version "no one cares" really what the hell are you doing on a channel about history, sh*tting on those who talk about history

@gioIgioj

3 жыл бұрын

@@Xingmey Well, he didn't say anything related to "being relevant". Wtf men.

@accountgoogle8727

3 жыл бұрын

@@Xingmey someone isn't loved

Amazing how much effort went into sinking one battleship.

@someboiwhogivesadamn

3 жыл бұрын

When its brother sunk the pride of the British Royal Navy in a single shot and took a literal ton of ordinance before it finally sank, it becomes more understandable.

@dpeasehead

3 жыл бұрын

@JT: If Tirpitz had been sunk during the early and critical stages of the Battle of the Atlantic like the Bismarck was, it would have been a far more useful accomplishment. But, by the time she was destroyed at anchor in 1944, the war had long past her by, and her demise was more about the futility of and the complete bankruptcy of the idea of any single weapons systems being expected to resist the massed technical and industrial output of the Allies than the sinking being a great victory or feat of Allied arms. The 1000 or so German sailors who died when it capsized, and the members of the defending AA crews were sacrificed for nothing.

@user-vu2mf6xj7x

3 жыл бұрын

บรรยายไหยก็ได้

@someboiwhogivesadamn

3 жыл бұрын

@Arnold Squirrel and the only thing that wasn't wrong with the Tiger I's was their transmission. yeah buddy, just because you say something doesn't mean it's true.

@someboiwhogivesadamn

3 жыл бұрын

@Arnold Squirrel we appear to be at an impasse. well, you can waste your breath on this as much as you want, I'm not going to waste any more time on this, there's a guy on another video that i need to go Troll the hell out of.

It's unbelievable how much damage these ships can take and how fast they are able to recover.

@winter1353

2 жыл бұрын

German engineering at it's finest

@captiancholera8459

2 жыл бұрын

@@winter1353 USS Yorktown would like to have a word with you

@mr.b4494

2 жыл бұрын

@@captiancholera8459 Honestly both are damn good ships, definitely good engineering on both sides.

@KarnageDon

2 жыл бұрын

​@@mr.b4494 Immagine what mankind would have accomplished if all the great minds behind those creations worked TOGETHER for a non destructive, common goal in a combined effort: US Economics, German engineering, Japanese diciplin, russian manpower... Guess there could be a point made for every nation out there, so sorry if I didn't mention your 'homeland'.

@MesCaLiN21

Жыл бұрын

@@captiancholera8459 No my friend, no comparison at all. It took 26 attacks involving over 1000 planes plus 4 midget u-boats to take the Tirpitz down. A percentage of what hit this battleship would have blown the carrier out of the water.

Britain: (Proceeds to throw everything and the kitchen sink at the Tirpitz) Germany: (Desperatly patching holes and draining flooding with buckets) STOP BLOWING HOLES IN MY SHIP!

@KillerOrca

3 жыл бұрын

@@sg-yq8pm Its a meme my dude. Didn't you watch Pirates of the Caribbean?

@smurphy2146

3 жыл бұрын

@@sg-yq8pm uncultured swine

@tucker1012

3 жыл бұрын

@@sg-yq8pm whoooooosh

@ronin1915

3 жыл бұрын

@@sg-yq8pm Dear god, PoTC is AMAZING, you really need to watch it

@pederiviken4832

3 жыл бұрын

didnt that junkie hitler get a telegram about this. Fucking tard. Hope his ass got blown to pissssses

Local here. When visiting my grandmother when she was in an retirement home some weeks before her passing, there was a 98 year old woman there that loved to talk to the younger generations. She told us how she remember the planes coming over the mountains to attack Tirpitz and the massive booms that were heard when the bombs fell. Excellent and informative video!

I was working in a shop a few years ago and an old boy came in and told me it was the anniversary of the day he and his friends attacked the Tirpitz with Barracuda torpedo bombers. He said he lost a lot of his friends that day. Hats off to him, they were very brave guys.

I love the thinking that went into Tallboy. "hmm... Why don't we just make one really big bomb?"

@GabrielKish

3 жыл бұрын

It must have been the same chaps that came up with the idea of stuffing an entire ship with high explosives and ramming it into a German dry dock gate. Which was made from something like 15' of reinforced concrete. No known bomb could hurt them. Even Tallboys. So they filled a ship with explosives instead and rammed it the gate. But before blowing up the ship, they came up with the idea of British Commandos jumping off the bomb ship and rushing the dry docks. Blowing up as many U-Boats and there dens as possible then fighting their way up a super long dock to escape on smaller boats that would follow them in. They had to next invent Commando's, which they did. This place they atracked has something like 15,000 German troops stationed there and giant guns lining the sea path for miles. They disguised their ship to make it have a German silhouette to try to get by the guns which kind of worked until it didn't. Imagine reading this plan and then getting the approval to do it. About a third of the Commando's were able to escape after the raid. About a third were captured when they ran out of bullets and the rest were all shot down in firefights. The host of Top Gear was dating the daughter of one of the Commando's who was in this raid and did a documentary on it. Crazy story.

@captc0ck5lap60

3 жыл бұрын

@@GabrielKish operation chariot? The greatest raid of all? "There's no use in ramming a stout gate with a ship like that" said the commander of the German garrison to the captured commandos, grinning. But just then... There was a _bang_

The trees around Kåfjord still shows sign of the chemicals used to cover the fjord in smoke and the shoreline is still littered with debris from bombs and pieces of the Tirpitz. And she isn’t still there, she was chopped up between 1948 and 1957, there are just about 20% of her left but those pieces are 18-20 meters under the surface.

@TheOperationsRoom

4 жыл бұрын

That's interesting, has it stained the wood in the trees?

@Mrtweet81

4 жыл бұрын

The Operations Room She was moved from Kåfjord before her sinking so the 20% of her is in the Tromsø fjord where she was sunk. The impact on the trees isn’t visible per se, but when they study the growth rings, they see no growth for 9 years because of the chlorosulphuric acid that was used as smokescreen damaged the needles of the trees so they couldn’t photosynthesise. It took the trees 30 years to reach normal growth cycle.

@MrDaiseymay

4 жыл бұрын

WHAT HAPPENED TO THE UNEXPLODED ''TALLBOY BOMBS'' ETC. WHO VOLUNTEERD FOR THAT JOB?

@Mrtweet81

4 жыл бұрын

Philip Croft Some of them landed on land and exploded, there are still craters there from that. The unexplored ones probably disintegrated on impact.

@dunruden9720

4 жыл бұрын

@@MrDaiseymay DON'T SHOUT!

The final raid on tirpitz was helped by the local luftwaffe commander. He delayed the order to send up fighters as he was an allied sympathiser.

My Dads cousin got his VC for the minisub mission. The only NI VC of WW2.

@joeverna5459

4 жыл бұрын

Can you please give more information? VC?

@ScawerGaming

4 жыл бұрын

@@joeverna5459 Victoria Cross my dude

@_____7704

3 жыл бұрын

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Cameron_(VC)

@russellehler6706

3 жыл бұрын

The minisubs succeeded in taking the Tirpitz out of the war. After their successful attack, she was no longer seaworthy.

Thanks for doing a video on the Tripitz. I feel like everyone only does the Bismarck. I just learned about the Tripitz's fate!

@TheOperationsRoom

4 жыл бұрын

No problem!

@kebman

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheOperationsRoom Eagerly waiting for the Battle of Narvik. ^^

@Silvia-ye3oj

2 жыл бұрын

Did you search for this? 🤔

@YukariAkiyama

2 жыл бұрын

@@Silvia-ye3oj Saw Op Room’s video on Laffey, sorted the videos by popular and started watching.

It just staggers me how expensive it was to sink a single battleship.

@benwilson6145

2 жыл бұрын

More expensive not to sink them

@steve5825

2 жыл бұрын

Think of the expense of losing that size of ship also along with the problems it would cause if not taken out of the contest.

@testaccount4191

2 жыл бұрын

the naval force had nothing else to do

@convue4112

Жыл бұрын

Its not “just” a battleship. I honestly dont understand how people dont know the tripitz was the heaviest and strongest ship the kreigsmarine (nazi germany) ever made. It surpassed that of the bismarck.

@jamesdean2002uk

3 ай бұрын

there is only one winner in war. The company that supplies the ammo

It’s cool how the ships change size to fit into rivers nd stuff

@myview5840

3 жыл бұрын

Should of hid it in a stream or puddle

@suckmyduck3295

3 жыл бұрын

@@myview5840 if we had been the generals back then the world would be a different place

So I know this is confusing, but you have kåfjord municipality which has a fjord itself (lyngenfjord), and then you have kåfjord which is a fjord about 20km north east of kåfjord municipality. Lyngenfjord lies in kåfjord municipality, and kåfjord lies in Alta municipality. You got the map right, as this actually happend in kåfjord in Alta municipality. Great attention to detail, a lot of historians get this wrong.

Jesus I never realised the tallboy broke the sound barrier. I can just imagine how terrifying that would sound to anyone on the ground underneath

@mikkel066h

3 жыл бұрын

Yea imagine those sailors. I bet they wanted to go home after getting raided almost daily.

@danielkelly1335

3 жыл бұрын

I can’t tell if this is a troll or not but something that is breaking the sound barrier would not be audible until it already hit you

@Freyja666

3 жыл бұрын

Acktchually

@danielkelly1335

3 жыл бұрын

@@Freyja666 *Ackchyually

@Freyja666

3 жыл бұрын

@@danielkelly1335 calm down neckbeard UwU

My friend Alan Tomson flew on Tungsten and other raids He talked about them often Unfortunately he passed away last month Aug 2020 He wrote a book just last year about his time and always grew a tear for his Friend Buzz who's Barracuda went in on op Tungsten. He had some good stories

@fuzzykitsune6806

Жыл бұрын

I’ve just found out that my great uncle William Murray had the same job as Alan and was also on HMS Furious. I’ve just listened to an interview of Alan telling his stories of squadron 830. He must have known my Uncle. Sadly he was killed 24th April 1944 shot down by flak and we know that the aircraft wreckage was located in 1980 but that’s all we know. I would love to read Alan’s book, his recall was just incredible. I’m so sorry to hear he has passed away, I cried listening to his stories. What a man

The number of ships, aircraft and casualties is shocking. It's easy to forget how horribly expensive war is - thanks for the reminder.

@sisutrucks

3 жыл бұрын

My grandmother told about after one attack, truckloads of dead Germans were driven past their house. And the town Alta. Entire town burned. Every bride blown. Not even e telephone pole was left standing. Two churches only.

@Jabber-ig3iw

Жыл бұрын

The biggest cost is human life.

@user-ix3di9xv9n

7 ай бұрын

A beast that never got to roar.

@nomercyinc6783

7 ай бұрын

no german or axis losses were losses at all, humanity improved every time axis soldiers took their last breath

Good video. My father was an officer on HMS Trumpeter an escort carrier that was involved in one of the Operation Goodwood missions. R.I.P.

Holy Molly! So much effort and resources just to sink one battleship. Just like it's sister ship Bismarck, Tirpitz was one tough SOB - extremely well engineered and built ship.

@philevans3257

3 жыл бұрын

But we did sink them both with limited losses. The Bismark and Tirpitz achieved very little, sank very little, cost a fortune and got shot to pieces.

The picture of the ‘remains’ of Tirpitz is actually the pram they used when they dismanteled the ship. Nothing of Tirpitz is visable. Its a popular dive site though. A piece of the ships armour is placed as a memorial where it sank. Great video

Imagine without aircraft carriers most of the historic Battleships would be near impossible to sink.

@DomWeasel

4 жыл бұрын

Scharnhorst was sunk by ship-launched torpedoes, as was Bismarck (some argument whether the Germans scuttled her) and the heavy cruiser Blucher was sunk by a land-based torpedo battery. Numerous British ships were sunk by U-boat torpedoes, including Royal Oak, Ark Royal and Barham. Modern torpedoes are designed to explode directly beneath a ship, causing them to 'break their back'. It was the torpedo that truly rendered the battleship obsolete; aircraft were just the most effective platform from which to launch this weapon during the Second World War.

@flufflepuffle6229

4 жыл бұрын

@@DomWeasel Bismarck was crippled by aerial torpedoes tho

@stork6855

4 жыл бұрын

@@flufflepuffle6229 Bismark sank after the torps yes but that was after about 7 ships pelted it for quite a while and they tried to scuttle it too

@DomWeasel

4 жыл бұрын

@@flufflepuffle6229 Bismarck's rudder was damaged an aerial torpedo but the hull remained sound and the guns active. The battleships King George V and Rodney and the heavy cruisers Norfolk and Dorsetshire fired on Bismarck, devastating the upperworks of the ship but not causing a knockout blow below the waterline. That came when Dorsetshire used its torpedoes.

@fabiovezzari2895

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly, but It was pleasant for the crews. Because they were not going to evacuate the ship after a few shots at the hull, they were expected to live a heavy fire all over the deck and super structure, since the hull was too thick for the enemy

My father was a armed guard member in the us navy on a liberty ship to Moermansk, he told me that when they heard the name Tirpitz they all shit in their pants so mysticall was that name among crew members , they were really afraid only by hearing it's name (my father served as a Dutchman in the U.S. navy) .

Damnit there was no reason for over 900 men to go down with that ship. He should have gotten the crew off :(

@qball1of1

3 жыл бұрын

Germany had some poor leadership, much of it in their navy...this example just proves it again.

There still are some massive craters at Kåfjord where she was anchored.

Kudos to Tirpitz to be able withstand so many attacks for such a long time.

@stevearno100

3 жыл бұрын

not really it was stupid - it was stupid that the Germans knew how much of threat the ship was to convoys ( it would never have engaged the British " HOME" fleet ) The Germans never protected it with air-cover - 50 - 100 fighters stationed would have protected it at first - then adding more if needed . Could they spare them ? probably not but they lost a massive tactical option losing their FLEET - even though small by UK, American ,Japanese standards ..... they were well made and very very accurate The STAKE was starving Russia of resources - and to do that was to raid the convoys - with Uboats and a small fleet with fighter cover . breaking Russia would have been very good for Germany - they just needed to take the major cites - and then starve them into submission .. Hitler bit off more than he could chew invading Russia - and not having a navy fleet of size was a mistake

@daralcampbell2171

2 жыл бұрын

@@stevearno100 the mistake was when Hitler was born and when he declared war on Poland

@stevearno100

2 жыл бұрын

@@daralcampbell2171 lol ....the Hitler not being born . He was though The trouble lays with "Power" = global dominance . The British Empire was falling apart this created instability within the world . Every moment in time there has seen dominance from the beginning of raping and pillaging another village for elevation. The first world War was Germany's first go to supersede the British empire but it failed . The 2nd World War was the next go . it may well have happened without Hitler, as the emotion of the population would have been still there to capitalise on . But you could be right , what we could have got without Hitler vs the emotion that facilitates expansionist ideas could have been more colonialism = a more friendly expansionist dream . The world tires of expansion of power- for centuries the British empire was sowing its own demise via trying to stop power grabs from emerging empires . Alot of countries it invaded was purely so other empires couldn't have them . I.could.add.a.mountain to the above,.its very complex vs time.. What should be worrying about daral .though .. is what is going to hqppen when America loses.ita grip.and all.thw allies of the most dominant force ( Canada and UK to name.but 2 ) are sucked it with it and we will be . It's all.pretty close right NOW - with Ukraine a EU expansion dream failed by Russia. The EU is a creation of a.power base . Emerging powers China, India etc etc If it does kick off over Ukraine ( very unlikely due to.its nature- the west will let Russia take.ukraine) ...will Russia been seen by history as the HITLER ? But what about the EU power grab less.than a decade before.it that created russias need

My grandfather and uncles heard the bombs go off all the way to Senja, where our farmstead is. It is said that on the day she sank, there was a day of sorrow in the nearby city Tromsø, because so many girls there had gotten engaged with German sailors who died in the attack.

@seno5530

2 жыл бұрын

There was more sorrow to come for them, even after the war.

"If you can't destroy them..." *_"SMOKE THEM!"_*

Binging the older ones currently again, nice timing. Its still mindboggling how much was invested into sinking one ship, let it be a dangerous one with fairly limited options. But all the fleetpower gathered and bombers dispatched is pretty nuts. But since there was an aircraft thats filming the Dambusters it probably served more a morale purpose to sink it rather than a tactical one.

What a huge amount of resources sent against one ship. Not sure it was worth it to keep one battleship at bay. The two minisubs were almost as effective as the combined air attacks.

My late grandmother told me about the sinking of the Tirpitz in November 1944 near hear then home in the vicinity of Tromsø, Norway.

Probably fair to say no single battleship has ever been subjected to this much attention from the enemy

@cactusman1771

Жыл бұрын

Well there was operation tengo with Yamato vs 386 American planes.

@ju_lo3493

Жыл бұрын

@@cactusman1771 yamato and the bismarck class were given a lot of attention, with only two of them being actual menaces, tirpitz only sunk ship was during training and it is the SMS Hessen

@nomercyinc6783

7 ай бұрын

pretty sure the yamato was similiar

@jamesdean2002uk

3 ай бұрын

pearl harbour

Good grief....they threw so much at that ship. Can't imagine how much that cost. Such tenacity!!

@misiclover1658

3 жыл бұрын

The cost was minimal compared to the ship's total cost,.

Thank you for this, as I had requested a video on it and didn’t realize that there was already one made. I really enjoy the amount of accuracy and information in these videos. 🙂

Damn...didn't quite realize how much went into going after the Tripitz. And here I thought the Bismarck was heavily hunted. Very informative, thanks for posting.

It was a very good use of an obsolete ship. Park it in a distant fjord and watch the Royal Navy go nuts with their obsession to destroy it.

I have some distant relatives I stayed with recently in the town of Finnsnes Norway. One of them was an older gentleman who helped with the salvage and dismantling operation of the Tirpitz that took place in the 50s. He had some pretty unique relics he was able to keep for himself, including the spent casing of a 38 cm round. It was pretty surreal.

Awesome presentation. Clear and concise. Amazing how much of a beating this one ship could take. Where other's take so little to destroy.

Seriously the best channel on KZread for historical military battles. There are other decent channels but nothing as good as this! He obviously puts a hell of a lot of work into research and then developing and editing the videos. But the way he tells the story and delivers the content is so damn good! You've got a winning formula. Well done, sir!

I live in tromsø and my great grandfather took part in the rescue operation to try and save those who was stuck inside the wreckage of Tirpiz after it sunk. Unfortunantly for those inside, the steel hull was to thick for their torches to burn thru. I've vissited the monument where it sank and seen how thick the hull was and trust me. Its thick!!

@PACstove

Жыл бұрын

How and when did they get the bodies out? That's a job that gets worse the longer you wait and i can't imagine who had to go in there and do that?

@zzrzx-ck5jo

Жыл бұрын

@@PACstove i just know that he took part in it. He passed away years ago and Ive just heard stories from my parents about it. So I dont know the exact details about it

Absolutely fantastic content here. Have become a huge fan in the past week. Have watched almost all of your videos. The production quality is awesomely high and the voice over is professional and easy to follow. Great

@TheOperationsRoom

4 жыл бұрын

Awesome, thank you!

My uncle freddy watts was awarded the Dfc for a direct hit he was a pilot with 617 squadron.

All torpedoes missed seems to be an ongoing theme in many of these awesome videos.

As usual, you’ve done a magnificent job explaining and showing in detail, major moments in history. The sinking of the Tirpitz helped with allied force morale and showed the determination of Churchill to weaken Nazi Germany’s Kriegsmarine. Thank you and keep up the great work. Best of luck 🍀

Damn! That ship was one tough customer to take out.

Thank you for excellent research, storytelling, and production quality. You do excellent work again and again.

Been binge watching your channel and 1) lovely work 2) it’s amazing how much of a running them “all the torpedoes miss” is

My name is Alastair James Malcolm. I am a direct descendant of Alastair David Malcolm who served during operation source. Really cool to see this video. Had no idea that multiple raids occured

RAF when they realise that the 1600lb and 500lb aren't working We're gonna need a bigger bomb

@masterfletcher616

3 жыл бұрын

It’s the fact they went from 1500 to 12000 for me

@thatguyonyoutubemk2746

3 жыл бұрын

Funny thing is, by the end of the war, the 12000lb tallboy wasn't the biggest bomb in the British arsenal 😂 The British would go on to make what I have been told is the biggest non nuclear explosive of the war known as the "Grand slam" which was a 22000 pound bomb

@masterfletcher616

3 жыл бұрын

@@thatguyonyoutubemk2746 if I’m correct I’m sure that’s the bomb that creates an earthquake when exploded due to the force?

@thatguyonyoutubemk2746

3 жыл бұрын

@@masterfletcher616 yeah, the 12000lb tallboy that sunk Tirpitz was one of those 'earthquake bombs' aswell, the grand slam was basically just an upscale on the tallboy by an entire 10000 lb

@thatguyonyoutubemk2746

2 жыл бұрын

@@masterfletcher616 actually, I missed a part of what you said. It's not called an earthquake bomb because of the force, it's called an earthquake bomb because of how it uses the force. An earthquake bomb was designed to be dropped near a target and its weight would ensure that it would end up underground. It wouldn't explode immediately, they were usually on a timer (if I remember rightly that timer was something like 30 mins). Since it had buried itself underground the immense force created by the bomb would create a small cavern which would undermine the foundations of a building or shake them apart through the shockwave, hence "Earthquake"

That is some massive effort against a single ship, A Humongous force was kept busy for the better part of a year to sink her.

Your videos are so cool! Thank you so much. I've watched several of your WWII and Desert Storm videos.

Tirpitz exists... Churchill: Use every man and machine to destroy that ship!!!

@patavinity1262

3 жыл бұрын

You could replace 'Tirpitz' with 'Bismarck' and the formula would still work.

@goki6548

3 жыл бұрын

Haha very funny! Its so funny that i forgot to laugh! Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha! 😐

Yamato and mussashi Bismarck and Tirpitz all go down basically without doing anything

I’ve seen so many documentaries on this but it never gets old

I really enjoyed watching thus video, it was so well made, well narrated and we'll edited, and properly thought through. Very good Production, very professional, an altogether Decent shirt film about a crazy time throughout the whole of WWII, the protection of the Atlantic and Arctic convoys to the Baltic countries and Russia.

Another fantastic video from you

@TheOperationsRoom

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks again!

Just found your channel and I'm loving it! This is some good stuff, well researched and well presented. KZread really did kill the History Channel...

Great channel! Excellent work in putting these together.

Bruh, your videos are absolutely fantastic! Thank you!!!

God I love these videos, more please, just enjoying them so much

One of the reasons it was stuck up there a lot was because there was only one drydock on the french coast that could handle something the size of the Tirpitz, at St Nazaire. This dock was attacked by British commandos in 1942 and successfully rendered useless for the rest of the war (albeit at high cost.) The story of the Greatest Raid of All is quite fascinating.

@KatyushaLauncher

3 жыл бұрын

You do realize that the Kriegsmarine never had the intention to send Tirpitz out into the Atlantic not after what happened to Bismarck

Great video! Patrick Bishop's book describes these events and others -- showing Churchill's obsession to knock out this battleship.

I consider myself a very knowledgeable armchair WW2 historian who has an extensive library who studied everything from Liddell Hart to maps and timelines and detailed specs od the machines but I must admit I never realized the attempt to sink the Tripitz was as intense and lone lasting and included fleet are arm attacks as you have detailed. I was aware of the “shuttle raids” using “tall boys”. Thanks for opening a new view into a subject I neglected. The removal of it's threat and the subsequent relief of RN units in the Atlantic might have shortened the war by month, saving thousands of unsung casualties in the Merchant Marine as well as well missed supplies. As I side note that might be of interest to the readers is I think it's interesting that the Vought Corsair was the ONLY US made aircraft I know of that did not receive a new name when it entered service in the FAA. It remained the Corsair while, for example. the F4F Wildcat was called the "Martlet".

Great video man thank you

@TheOperationsRoom

4 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

My uncle went down with his ship on this route. I never met the man, I was born in 69. However my aunt, my dad's sister never got over it.

The Kriegsmarine must have been wondering where the Luftwaffe were. Great history, thanks!

Excellent presentation!

I have a book called “Menace: The Life and Death of the Tirpitz”, by Ludovic Kennedy, and it goes into pretty good detail of her trials and tribulations, as well as stories of her crew and what they got up to with all their spare time. Definitely worth a read for any WW2 navy buff if you can find a copy.

@MrDaiseymay

4 жыл бұрын

I REMEMBER HIM ON TV, PLUGGING IT

What a great video... Thoroughly enjoyed that...

@TheOperationsRoom

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you kindly!

Tremendous job! Thank you!

As usual, an excellent presentation!

great video, and good context

@TheOperationsRoom

4 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

Me again! I've been binging your videos and have decided I'm now a history professor, specialising in war battles. Thanks man, your awesome videos taught me well. 😁

Great video! Growing up right next to the supplybunkers in The Fættenfjord, I've heard lots of stories from my great grandma about the Tirpitz, but not so much about the air raids. There was actually a failed mini-submarine attempt to sink the Tirpitz in Fættenfjord, right before she left for Kåfjord. The allies got the subs into the fjord, but the submarines sank in bad weather before they could place the magnetic bombs they carried. The military complex built around the Tirpitz in Fættenfjord are quite amazing, still today, with 27 large ammunition bunkers, FLAK bunkers around the whole fjord, several docks and giant nets across the fjord to catch low-flying planes and bombs.

Fascinating thank you. Just checked satellite maps out to see if I could find it. And yes looks like a steal structure just off the shore line but not a full ship. With bomb craters under water and on land. Fantastic 👍🏼

I love your channel. Here are some others thought you might like that could give you some inspiration. Montemayor has great videos on the attack on Pearl Harbor and the Battle of Savo Island. Then HistoryMarche made a great video about the SMS Emden from World War 1.

You know considering how many times the torpedos all missed makes me feel way better about my carrier gameplay in world of warships

Loving your work, keep it up 👍

@TheOperationsRoom

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you 🙌

Describing how destructive the Tallboy bombs were, then mentioning that 34 of them were dropped at once, mind boggling! Imagine being on the Tirpitz knowing you're stationed inside the biggest target around, and there are 34 tallboys falling per attack. My trousers would be full.

Another excellent presentation

*AIR RAID SIRENS* Tirpitz: Smoke 'em if you got 'em.

One battleship hung up that many planes and ships through the War? Imagine if the Germans had 10 parked obsolete battleships.

@mrunseen3797

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I wonder. Often the British seemed to have felt to the propaganda, that a certain German weapon is truly as powerful as portrayed.

@photoisca7386

3 жыл бұрын

That's right boys, do your best to demean the British. However, even the Brylcreem Boys were capable of recognising an obsolete battleship.

@DanielC__

3 жыл бұрын

John Smith A completely disproportionate effort with so many lives lost. What a shame. In retrospect the battleships were unworthy of the lives given to sink them.

Barnes Wallis' Tallboys, with Roy Chadwick's Lancaster definitively brought the age of the Battleship to its end.

Fabulous and authoritative research

Another well done video!

@TheOperationsRoom

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks again!

Hey could we get the sources that you used for this video? fascinating video and would love to do some further reading.

What a great series of video the creators have done. Good job. Cheers from Canada

@TheOperationsRoom

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you like them! Also - *creator* :)

I read an article the two tall boys landed near her starboard side and the explosion 💥 of both combined practically lifted her near clear out the water for a split second as the shock wave went underneath her , !!!!

Thank You !

@TheOperationsRoom

4 жыл бұрын

You're welcome!

Another wonderful video: always looking forward to these.

@TheOperationsRoom

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for Patreoning!

@daniellucas1494

2 жыл бұрын

Always well done

man, they really had it in for that ship

Winky D.M. and Stinky the pigeons, not mentioned here but they are worth remembering...cheery

The Tirpitz is the story of my self confidence.

Another splendid presentation of an essential operation. Congrats.

@TheOperationsRoom

4 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

These are great. I love learning about WW2 battle history