Babe, wake up! A new Talkative Tri video just dropped!

As somebody that was in the confidential beta, can confirm that blizzard ignored so much feedback. We had full access to the map at the time. They set their schedule/deadline and went through with it no matter the state and feedback of the beta and how much they could fix.

Is it November yet? Is it November yet? Is it November yet?...

@TalkativeTri

11 күн бұрын

Wake me up, when...wait that's not right.

@geeleiia8807

11 күн бұрын

@@TalkativeTri october ends? (reimagined version)

@fatalradius

10 күн бұрын

Oh no….POE 2 is most likely releasing officially in 2025.

@zodiarkful

10 күн бұрын

@@fatalradius I would expect them to push it to december to synch with the new core supporter pack

@fatalradius

5 күн бұрын

@@zodiarkful I can see that too. I feel like the mechanics are so ambitious that the team will keep tweaking the game until they are satisfied. Which is not a bad thing at all, but we'll be getting a beta if they release in 2024

I dont know how you have time to do all these, but thank you. Gets me through these difficult pre poe 2 times

@LeftysRage

10 күн бұрын

Ha!

A big think with players is they are very good at telling when something feels wrong. But arent good at providing good solutions. GGG has designers who really can take that feedback and fix the true underlying issues

@canisinumbra

10 күн бұрын

Which the state of PoE proves... oh wait.

I was part of the Alpha in D4 and gave feedback on the lack of build diversity. Where was my Pet build for the Druid that I cand create from the start like D2? Felt like I had to babysit my minions. Felt like picked the same skills if I would make a second class of the same kind. They mentioned that they would go back to its roots from D2's skill tree. I mentioned that I didn't feel more powerful putting extra points in the skill tree. That was my focus during the alpha. I didn't care for Endgame so I was focused on the journey of building different characters for variety's sake. Nope. When they released the pre-launched Beta. Nothing changed. I was optimistic that it would be better and since I liked the Diablo franchise, I paid the $70, ignoring my better judgment. Worst decision I made. I've played POE occasionally when it was competing with D3 and it didn't grab me for some reason. I saw the trailer for POE2 at Exilecon 2023 and was completely blown away. Now that is what I thought D4 would be. I digress. So back to POE and after reading build guides, and the basics of POE, I ventured forth to understand the basics of POE. Completely blown away by the build diversity within the gem system. Mind blown! In the end, POE2 is on my radar and I don't even care about D4's coming expansion. I'm intrigued about the new class but it won't sway me to come back to D4. I've tried the recent 'Loot Reborn' season and still not convinced. I don't like that builds are tied with items. That's what it was like D3.

@canisinumbra

10 күн бұрын

You simply lie.

Blizzard: sell a box, get their money, forget the game. GGG: Free game, prove it's worth it, earn store MTX revenue.

@ruibarian5187

11 күн бұрын

I'm not sure how rehauling the item system completely while adding 6 end-game bosses is "forgetting the game." I want more from them, but I also feel like I got more than my money's-worth out of the campaign. If people expect a better campaign from PoE, I think they're delusional. It doesn't make sense to put that kind of money into a game where you'll spend most of the experience outside the campaign anyway.

@matheusguerrascheffer6518

11 күн бұрын

@@ruibarian5187 I don't think a short, "meh" campaign is worth 70$. A decent enough campaign is what keeps a new player playing the game until end-game and not the classic " it gets good at the end game" phrase.

@Mic_Glow

11 күн бұрын

I probably spent more on poe cosmetics than on my Steam library .__.

@youtoobz146

10 күн бұрын

​@@ruibarian51876 endgame bosses that were already in the game? Absolutely nothing new or original. Recycled trash

@xRaptorScreamx

10 күн бұрын

@@ruibarian5187 I played D4 when it got added to Game Pass, played with a friend, we both went blind into it. He played barbarian, I played sorc, i think we barely got to Act 3 quests, and I was bored becasue nothing interesting happened and the worst was "Not enough Mana" "Skill not ready", how the hell am I supposed to play low level Sorc if I dont have mana regen spam spelss and some cooldowns are over 10s?

8:17 I thought it was "most positive person in multiversum" :)

Amazes me that a multi billion dollar developer always puts in the bare minimum of effort

@Somerled_Pox

11 күн бұрын

Multi billion bureaucracy and shareholding corporate company that happens to make games sometimes

@shayaharonson9634

11 күн бұрын

They still rake in the money because people are stupid, so why would they change?

@whiskoo9941

11 күн бұрын

it makes them the most profit by banking on the title of the game rather than the gameplay

@sirbonobo3907

11 күн бұрын

Thats called minimum viable product Google it the whole it Industry works Like this

@jasonlucia6682

11 күн бұрын

it's been particularly egregious as of late

"You think you do, but you don't". Same Studio, think that sums it up

@TirpitzLuminare

11 күн бұрын

This is spot-on.

There is no Cosby Suite at GGG

@hawg_tv

11 күн бұрын

Or a Breast milk bar

I think that the main reason for why D4 was released in a state where it needed 12+ months more development time, was primarily due to the higher-ups at Activision wanted the game to come out before the sale to Microsoft, so they could increase the value of the company and also get a bonus payout from the D4 release.

@user-qo3nn4tv7g

9 күн бұрын

I agree!

great video love your takes. Really balanced full scope view on the landscape and gamers wants. Tri really cares about how all gamers feel

@TalkativeTri

11 күн бұрын

Much appreciated!

I am so thrilled to see where the journey goes. I feel the call of the Druid and shall follow. Nice to see that GGG is understanding that the beating heart of a game like this, is its community.

The Last time I actually fought DIABLO was in Diablo 1 and 2.

My biggest gripe with D4 is how it doesn’t seem to try to exceed expectations in the slightest. It’s struggled to barely meet minimum expectations. I really hope it tries to in the future once the fires (of its core issues) are mostly out.

"...Blizzard ignored the feedback, moved forward with their vision and released in the state they thought was best." I don't think v1.0 had anything to do with the game's vision being in a good enough place that the development team felt confident about the release state. I think the development team was pressured to release because the current build was just far along enough that the initial game sales could be leveraged before the ABK sale to Microsoft would be completed, thus netting one final cash-in for shareholders, and also inflate the company value during acquisition negotiations.

For me the most telling examples is keybord to controller simless transition requests from players for GGG and Paladin class endless requests for Blizzard. One was immediately taken in consideration and another was dismiss as annoyance. Very telling who cares about their audiance more.

@canisinumbra

10 күн бұрын

BS

Amigo, your presentation / writing skills are getting sooooooo good!!!!! Keep it up - you're killing it!

IDK but in my mind, POE was the king of ARPG's since 3.0

@sober667

11 күн бұрын

Based

After playing one mmo and D3 I never ever want to play a game with account-bound items (and/or no trade) again. Watched the D4 cutscenes and that's it, waiting for PoE2

What happened with Diablo IV is very telling. And, I can't quite come down on either side of the situation. When the huge issues started up with Blizzard and how they run things, etc, they ended up shifting people around, letting people go, reassigning projects, etc. The guy who was in charge of Diablo IV at that time was caught up in all of it, so the game ended up in someone else's hands. Now, the second person was a huge fan of how Diablo III works (and was a big part of it, too, including their way of doing Seasons/Leagues), and I think was instrumental on how Immortal came out, as well. The first guy, though? He wanted a more MMO-ish version of Diablo IV, with seasons that were more like how Sea of Thieves and Destiny do things. There are challenges and achievements to get each season that progress you through. Even if you don't do those things, just grinding out XP would have progressed through the rewards. The reason it is open world is because of his wishes for the game. Same with world bosses, the helltides, and more. All of those are things he wanted for the game, and was working towards for endgame content and more. With him, we had trailers showing things like mercenaries that would be available on launch. But, when the shakeups happened, he was replaced for Diablo IV. But, the game had already been in development for so long and needed to release very soon! To make the game 'viable' they chose to rework the things that were not absolutely completed, and into a more Diablo III style to be safe. What we ended up with was a 'Frankenstein's Monster' of sorts, very similar to how the original Justice League movie released (due to the same basic stuff with directors), and very similar results. Would the game have been as it has been if this had not happened? No, it would be far better from the very start. So, that part has been forever changed for the (much) worse! But, the shakeup was kinda necessary because Blizzard has been being a really crappy company internally for a long time. However, what would have occurred had all those people being wronged just up and quit all at the same time? Would Blizzard have changed things without needing such a drastic chaos internally? Too many pros, too many cons... all ends up looking very difficult to pick a definite side.

Reaction to feedback is what actually separates two for me heavily. I remember how they've tried to emphasise that they're going back to D2 which many of us wished for, they've even brought in famous speedrunners for the test runs but any feedback I remember was not considered and actually they've moved past D2 things since then making it a D3 clone which people ultimately hated in broader diablo community. Whilst PoE is reacting so quickly it's astonishing. It's not even alpha yet and it's changing significantly, in all possible directions and not just some focused small tweaks. Thought about some random new feature, neat - implementation same month. It's insane considering literally no one is doing similarly.

I played a lot of S4 of D4, there have been many refreshing changes and I have been hooked. But we can no longer compare anything with PoE2, just by seeing the witch reveal... it has so many improvements and I really can't find a rival to compare it with. GGG is aiming high!!

Hey, maybe I missed it, but has there been any info regarding the new Skill tree system in POE2? The playtest you guys did was probably with locked skillsets right? Id love to see if and how they can "upgrade" the poe1 skilltree system. Maybe its possible to make it modular, sort of like the paragon board in d4. I imagined a POE2 skilltree where I am allowed to swap the position of node-clusters with each other to truely craft the hero of my fantasy :D

I agree that when it releases for everyone that there will be a lot of feedback. I hope that the devs for PoE2 are able to sort out the ppl just crying about something to actually needing a fix. At least with these private tests they're filled with more of the hardcore players who understand everything with the game. I love the changes they've made, especially the flasks! That needed to revert and they did. Love how GGG listen and adjust what's needed to make a more amazing game

D4 fundamentally wasn't terrible to me. There was definitely a great deal of effort put into certain aspects of development...but between the price point, lack of variety at end game and shallow class customization it ultimately wasn't worth playing past the initial campaign.

One other thing I noticed when it comes to Blizzard vs. GGG (and even EHG) is that Blizzard devs almost never mention other games in their interviews/chats. It's like their lips are cursed. Jonathan Rogers, on the other hand, has no problem talking about LE, No Rest, Diablo and others outside the ARPG genre. GGG knows what they want. They want to give people a game they enjoy. And if their preference has changed due to other games, they will make changes to fill that need in their own way. They embrace this evolution of the genre. In other words, they are proud about their product and have all the arguments at hand to instantly reply to any interviewer why they chose to do a certain thing. Blizzard feels like they are afraid (and maybe they are - of the shareholders, not the players) and want us to "think" they trust their product, but who knows what goes on in there.

D4 is a joke it was a shit game on release now its just broken fundamentally as they are trying to fix it based on top streamer videos which just makes it even worse. They have a mmo arpg made for no one. When PoE2 releases theres no question it will reign supreme. Even being a free game vs diablos 3000000 dollar expansion i expect PoE 2 to bring in more revenue as a free game cause its just in a different stratosphere then this joke of a game blizzard released and is trying to fix but one fix breaks 5 other things. Blizzard was once king but GGG will take its final steps to the throne when PoE2 releases

@andrasvoros7794

11 күн бұрын

I feel like D4 will come out on top this time, I don't have high hopes on GGGs part. The leagues nowadays are pretty lackluster or even bad. The overall feel of poe2 is not path of exile from what I've seen, more like a reskinned D4. They will simplify the game too much, to the point that it will become a generic arpg. Forcing archetypes and streamlining everything. In poe1 you could make an immune deep delver that used vaal impurites with flasks and you took 0 dmg(only from darkness) or a 0 hp delver that could oneshot everything and went to infinity. Or a lab runner with 900 ms. Unintuitive stuff, that you felt smart by figuring it out. We will lose that in POE2. It makes sense in a business perspective (a wider audience), but it feels like that the game will become what's D4 was on release, 4-5 days of playsessions per league, rinse and repeat.

@PPG87

11 күн бұрын

@@andrasvoros7794 PoE 2 will most certainly not be PoE 1. D4 is as simple as the child's game of what shape goes into the cut out of the shape. If you haven't listened to Jonathan Rogers and him explaining the game and haven't been anything but excited I don't know what else a player would want. Plus vessel of hatred is going double down on MMO aspects and d4 just isn't fun there's no challenge there's no thinking, the only good part was the campaign which they allow you to skip and now let you get to lvl 100 in 2 hours now to do all of the no end game they have

@harrynazarian3184

11 күн бұрын

Based. The only thing that makes D4Dogshit a hard/difficult game is staying awake for more than 10 minutes while playing the game.

@PPG87

11 күн бұрын

@@andrasvoros7794 and I'm relatively new to ARPGs I started with D4 then played LE and after doing everything D4 offered in the 1st couple days I jumped to LE which I enjoyed and was more in depth in building my character. Then I decided for the 1st time to jump into PoE so I started SSF no build guide on 3.24 which is necropolis and from what I've read is the worst league but I put 500 hours into this season and it's been the best gaming experience I've had in my 37 years or at least since the halo 2 days. In that 500 hours I've got to lvl 94 and beat the 2 of the bosses searing exarch and the guy that takes you to the toxic waste realm and currently working on shaper and still have so much I want to do. It's not even a competition to me it's just a better game and I expect PoE 2 will just elevate that

@XenogearsForever

11 күн бұрын

Blizzard has been clawing it's way back to "player trust" since Blizzard North died off. This is going on for many years now. Don't show any level of mercy toward these criminals, especially with their pro DEI garbage. The world is tired of this woke nonsense. GGG are serious developers and have clear passion with their product. Blizzard is far more concerned with "properly gendering" their employees. "Go woke go broke". Being polite and kind towards these types of companies gets you nowhere. Boycott Blizzard and let it all collapse.

the reason blizz devs moved forward with their vision is the game isn't made by gamers but by monetization experts

Tri is gonna BLOW past that 25k sub goal before summer ends.

I was a huge Diablo franchise fan, D4 and their team let me down. I’m glad I’m hooked on POE

can we get a color customisation like in D4 u know it can impact as its not that hard to do + we are getting a mount so it can be good at same ui mount and color changing for items not the skin just the color+ the option of hide and show the helmet as example

I certainly don't like the state of Diablo IV, but the changes you attributed to PoE, Blizzard has also implemented many QoL changes based on feedback. So it doesn't sound very reasonable. Another thing is that Blizzard themselves don't know what the game should be like, and no amount of feedback will help.

Fresh new video hmmmm

@TalkativeTri

11 күн бұрын

Steaming hot.

Bro, you're the only one keeping my POE2 withdrawls in check, and I aint even played the game yet! 😭😭😭😭

@TalkativeTri

11 күн бұрын

Video a day for HOW long?????

wow, great video! I love the shade (but truth) being spoken about Blizzard. This video is a master class and well put together, the subs are rising as well and I am happy to see that Tri - its already at past 5,500 in just 5 hours. 👀

I know you get a lot of push back or get called a GGG shill but keep up the content bro and stay +.

@TalkativeTri

11 күн бұрын

Oh I will.

Another on point video @Talkative Trt 🙃

GGG has always been good with the community, but ofcourse we have been conditioned to expect that from them, when they miss a little we feel like WTF but they have always been good

Blizzard has an albatross around it's neck called Diablo 2. From what I see, the fact that all these other games have been inspired by D2, the game designers at Blizzard have the mistaken impression that they are still able to produce a game like that. "It's our game that they are pulling from so we must right about things regardless of what the community says. Obviously we know best. We made D2." That is the problem they have to solve. Realize they aren't able to make anything close to D2 today and should embrace the feedback. GGG has no problem implementing the good feedback they received

Hello from australia i watch all your vids just wondering why nobody is talking about the new game coming called dragonkin: the banished looks awesome can’t wait for that one also

hey,as you mentioned the og game titan quest is receiving a sequel, we meet to see how it is on release,but i have hope

Correction. D3 had 2 expansions. One with the Crusader and one with the Necromancer.

@Mike-jm4gg

11 күн бұрын

The one with the necromancer was not a real expansion since you could with players that did not have purchase it.

@Fighterfan69

11 күн бұрын

@@Mike-jm4gg ? I don't understand. I'm guessing because there wasn't any new content just the Necromancer class? but still you had to pay for the class so it's technically and expansion in my eyes

@Mike-jm4gg

11 күн бұрын

@@Fighterfan69 its pay for a new class, you got it….the thing is it was supposed to have a new expansion with the necro class but Blizzard did shut down D3 development at the time and scrapped all the work for the new expansion.

@user-qo3nn4tv7g

9 күн бұрын

Νecromancer was like stand alone dlc. Only the character.

I REALLY hope they add a death recap system. as someone who is still progressing in poe its hard to tell what I'm dying to, and outside of recording my play sessions I can't always figure it out.

@jplemley8110

11 күн бұрын

Been playing Poe since the start and still sometimes have no idea how I died lol

Uhm... What about the feature PoE players have been BEGGING for ages since early beta? The ability to check what exactly killed your character or some rudimentary combat log? 🙄 Do we also have to wait for Mr. Rogers' wife to ask for it?

@canisinumbra

10 күн бұрын

That will be ignored by shills and fanboys. Like always.

Is there going to be Q and A soon? I have three questions for the GGG devs about POE2.

You nailed sir! I've maintained support for GGG since beta even though I'm not a fan of POE's brutal learning curve and the trading based economy. GGG and Last Epoch are based people inside companies that truly value it's players.. Blizz on the other hand has turned into a garbage factory of self important sycophants, they have focus all their attention on cosmetics that are WAY over priced when they should have spent time on SKILLS,MAPS, and BOSS's with a fun yet challenging end game. Each of these companies has truly earned whatever HATE or LOVE it's gained because this stuff doesn't just fall out of the sky.. I've tried launch and each season of D4 and I just can't do it anymore, my main is Sorc and it's clear that D4 devs just don't play there game and don't understand the power fantasy of Casters , not to mention the the hilarious cosmetics for Sorc... I will not git blizz any more $$$ unless they fix the core game and honestly by the time that happens I'll most likely be in a rotation of POE2 and LE.. Blizz's ignorance and arrogance is finally catching up with them... Although we all know there are enough normies that will continue to support blizz no matter what..

crazy what having good devs does to a game

6:04 who's the dude sat next to Lance and why is he covering his face?

@TalkativeTri

11 күн бұрын

Salutations, exile (it’s Jousis).

I mean, after the fiasko with Diablo Immoral, we realized Blizzard and Activision are way out of touch with their own player base. You would imagine they would try to change things and listen to the feedback of their hardcore players who were invited to playtest. But no....they just don't care that much. They want to make money and it seems they are willing to do that with the least amount of work. Only when player numbers dropped drastically, and they realized people would buy their shit any more, they started to implement the changes... I, too, was part of the closed beta, and I tried diablo immortal, but I am tired of this company. I had enough of their greed and half asses attempts and excuses.

When you see PoE2 playing beside d4 you can immediately tell how washed out the colours of d4 look. They made the world a washed out grey to give the world a dark feel rather than create a dark but vibrant world like PoE2

@rizdaw304

11 күн бұрын

Well, Blizzards were criticized a lot for how cartoonish and "un-Diablo-like" the third part looked. At least here they listened to the players.

@canisinumbra

10 күн бұрын

Which has a better atmosphere than the flashy PoE(2) experience imo

@ADVGuiltyParty

10 күн бұрын

@@canisinumbra poe2 ain’t flashy by any stretch. Poe skills yes but in 2 they have toned it way down

@canisinumbra

10 күн бұрын

@@ADVGuiltyParty Don’t see that, it’s flashy AND vibrant.

I'm looking forward to Titan Quest 2, but I don't expect the same depth from it as in poe, I want an interesting story and "pathos" from it =-)

I may be strange, I love playing poe, diablo, last epoch and grim dawn. In short I love arpgs. It's been my favorite genre since D1

@MrMelani1

11 күн бұрын

to me, the most important aspect of an arpg is how much trasformative are builds, like, i didn't play d4 since season 1, so i can't speak for the current state of the game, but at release, you pick a skill, you get very few options for your skill, and then the totality of the game is that enemies get bigger numbers, and you get bigger numbers, the example that i do to my friends to make them understand why i love poe so much, is that there are keystone like bloodmagic that create an unique exp for that specific character, i felt the same in D1 with skill books and special gear, i felt the same in D2 with runewords and unique items, when i find that piece in an ARPG, then i like it

@uGenxile79

11 күн бұрын

I agree I enjoy all and they all bring something to the table. I understand people not enjoying everything out there, and that's fine it's subjective. But a lot of hate goes out not to constructively criticize. But just to somehow validate their own opinion of what's superior.

I cannot wait for POE2 omg

im wondering if blizzard is only going to make big changes people want when its time for a new expansion...

Not gonna lie I can't wait for Titan Quest 2.

would be nice if we could use the same accaunt on PC and PS5

I will play both games and I like both of them.

Holy F*** i cant wait to try poe2

I think painting Diablo 4 as a failure is a mistake. It's a multi-billion dollar game. I don't think D4 ever saw PoE as a competitor at all, they made a cinematic, highly refined campaign. That was the selling point, a 20-25 hour experience that you have the option of doing some things later, but you don't have to to get the full value out of the game. And that makes complete sense for a game with a box price, if I spend $60 on a game, I don't want to have to play 200 hours to get the best experience. I don't want to grind a mageblood in every game I play.

@johnWayne-df6rm

7 күн бұрын

The poe community derives a false sense of accomplishment through grinding out a mageblood. They don't understand that some people don't have time to play poe. I play poe alone because my casual friends prefer d4. I enjoy d4 because I get to play with them and my 62yr old dad. I wish they'd play poe but I understand why they don't.

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Maybe both of them share the same genera , but their players are totally looking for different things , I mean Poe is challenging game , while Diablo is more of a casual friendly game. While PoE offering hard and massive amount of mechanics , Diablo 4 offering fast food gameplay where you just getting easy understanding mechanics and gameplay. So it’s on a player to choose if they wanna sit with opened guides and tips and all other things or chooses to just playing without any challenges and needs to follow any guides.

GGG is still an Indie studio at heart, you can see that in so much that they do, and that spirit remains regardless of how large they get. Blizzard is a profit machine first and foremost, and has been for the last 10+ years.

@canisinumbra

10 күн бұрын

And indie studio that has sold 100% to Tencent. Sure.

@jonnyfive1982

10 күн бұрын

“Indie Studio at heart”. Tencent is mostly letting them be and continue operating at their normal and will likely do so as long as they remain vastly profitable.

@canisinumbra

10 күн бұрын

@@jonnyfive1982 Doesn’t seem like that at all.

Definitely looking forward to the druid.

@Dragynn999

11 күн бұрын

DRUID BROS!

I wish they would do the same for poe 1 on console. It feels worthless posting anything in the console feedback and suggestions forum.

Wait a sec flasks fill up on kills again? YAS!

Difference: Blizzard SAY that they're listening. GGG ARE listening.

"The Huge Difference Between Blizzard And GGG Is..." One rushed to release a unfinished game in order to meet Microsoft's deadline, the other take their time to release a polished game that everyone will enjoy.

@TalkativeTri

11 күн бұрын

Boom.

@PPG87

11 күн бұрын

I agree, they put all their eggs in the "over world" basket and rolled out a game with no content. It was a campaign and renown hunting and my god is that such a turn off. I fell trap to D4 S4 and made a hard core character to maybe have some what of a challenge but nope blasted to 100 no problem in a night just to realize I didn't have any of my renown from a soft core character so to min max I would have to do all the renown again... that's when I turned it off loaded up PoE

Blizzard died at D3. Why o why are you still hoping??? The fact that you guys even tried D4 after Immortal is mindblowing.

@n91312

11 күн бұрын

Immortal has nothing to do with D4 or Blizzard what are you on about?

@rlowethewitch8417

11 күн бұрын

It was literally showcased at BlizzCon, and the Blizzard guys talk about it during their emergency We Fucked Up Please Forgivr Us meetings. And OP is exactly right

@marschiee

11 күн бұрын

@@n91312 Copium

@11ELFs

11 күн бұрын

​@@n91312They literally reused diablo immortal assets on D4, care to check the sound of a unique item dropping in both games or nah?

@ClintK.

11 күн бұрын

💯 agree. I was one blinded. From D2-D3 Diablo went from a hot chick you wanted to throw a ring on to your girl moving away for 6 months and coming back a trans. D3-D4 was hoping they would sex change back. D4- on is her doubling down being a Trans. Your hot chicks NOT coming back folks.

This is why I love GGG.

in D4 season 4, I've never seen so many updates that broke the thing blizzard was trying to fix/buff, or just simply didn't fix it at all.

@canisinumbra

10 күн бұрын

Play PoE. You’ll see more.

@esvbanARPGs

10 күн бұрын

@@canisinumbra been playing Poe since closed beta. D4 team is way worse at fixing bugs.

@canisinumbra

10 күн бұрын

@@esvbanARPGs Nah, it’s about the same. Some getting fixed immediately, some don’t

@esvbanARPGs

10 күн бұрын

@@canisinumbra tell that to rapid fire rogues and dolmen stone druids, ROFL. Add andariels to the list as well. See if they get it right on next update. Attempting to fix holy bolts elixir only for it to crash games and need to be disabled, list goes on

@canisinumbra

10 күн бұрын

@@esvbanARPGs Andariel builds were strong enough before the patch, it will survive till they fix it.

60 page of diable feedback < 1 jpg of bingo card

Where am I

@TalkativeTri

11 күн бұрын

Stay awhile and listen.

Will we get a daily video again?

@TalkativeTri

11 күн бұрын

I am on a STREAK!

@omegasybers1110

11 күн бұрын

@@TalkativeTri Yeah. I am just a tad worried with your wive, 2 children (soon) and a dayjob of 40+ hours that you'll burn out

@TalkativeTri

11 күн бұрын

If I was doing scripts, 100%. This is much easier!

D4 was undercooked D3 with new skin on release. Now with every new feature they are making it more and more D3 again. Itemization is almost D3 now. Ladder will be there. Rifts will be there. Probably timing too. All of this just shows how impotent Blizz is.

lets goooo !

"Jonathan Rogers called me the most positive person in the universe, and I won't shut up about it! 😊"

@TalkativeTri

11 күн бұрын

truth

Screen flashing red... I hope we can turn that off...

One create games, the other died in 2018, and since then create slot machines.

Sick of diablo 4 developers ignoring us

@canisinumbra

10 күн бұрын

They almost implemented any wishes from players. They certainly don’t ignore us.

Last epoch puts D4 to shame Poe2 will demolish it.

@canisinumbra

10 күн бұрын

That’s why no one played it anymore after 2 weeks of its launch.

Basically this last play test had more content and changes than an entire Diablo season.

POE2 FTW

Diablo development won't change until Rod is gone.

they're not only listening to players who have played poe and other ARPGs a lot, they've invited and hosted a few people taht were completely new to the genre. People who were still in act 1 at the end of the most recent event, but were having fun.

@canisinumbra

10 күн бұрын

Yes, wudijo is completely new to the genre

@ferinzz

10 күн бұрын

@@canisinumbra Was more talking about J1mbo. kzread.info/dash/bejne/c6Cu0tZxY6mxl84.html

D4 is still in a beta state imo and they are already announcing the expansion. They just divided the game story in "expansions" for each prime evil, they really want to milk every believer still out there

When talking ARPGs, why does nobody ever mention Grim Dawn, a 93% rated game on Steam? Is it because it's so little known, or too old, or just not liked that much?

I don't think comparing PoE 2 to Diablo 4 is a good idea. When finally PoE 2 will be released Diablo 4 will be a 2 years old game with a major failure in its core architecture (and probably still without a real endgame). Why even talks about Diablo 4? - in the PoE world streamers make a talks about the game, discussions, interviews with the developers. Blizzard makes they own "campfire" where Blizzard workers talk to each other?? For me this is a proof that nobody cares about Diablo 4.

In the last 10 - 15 years Blizzard has really thrown away a lot of human capital. They don't seem to take expertise as seriously as they once did. They don't seem to learn from their past mistakes. As fun as D4 can be for a few days, many of it's biggest issues are rehashed from D3 or they learned the wrong lessons. POE is a game where people who loved a genre became experts & are now using everything they learned to make the best version of an ARPG they can dream up. I don't see Diablo 4 as having a chance to compete in the long run. I believe POE 2 is going to hit enough of an accessibility threshold to really dent D4.

I know that this works but there's no need for these cheap click bait titles.. honesty and genuine approach is much more appreciated long term. I'm not saying that the title is misleading but it's written to make you want to click. That's a manipulative tactic. Love from Greece

@TalkativeTri

11 күн бұрын

yes i hate it, but it works

@Miuacc-xr7dt

11 күн бұрын

@@TalkativeTri You're better than this

@StillWeRide

11 күн бұрын

no hes not. I bet he had j rogers fart in a jar to sniff when he got home. hes a shill through and through

@canisinumbra

10 күн бұрын

@@Miuacc-xr7dt No, he’s not. He’s doing this for almost a year now.

One wants money, the other one wants to be the best game in industry. Simple as that.

@StillWeRide

11 күн бұрын

give me a break. f2p is scummy as fuck. Like GGG is a charity. 500 dollar supporter packs....40 dollar pets...stash tabs. stop drinking the kool aid

I don't know about Blizzard. But POE2 is way better than D4 I do hope D4 gets better with time, but after seeing POE2. It has way more customization and gameplay systems. Especially when they said old season content from POE1 will be put into POE2. And they have close to a decade worth of it, I don't see D4 competing with that.

You guys do realize that when POE2 gets released there will be many people that wont like it and complain all over the forums and in videos. This happens with all new games. Last Epoch crashed very quickly. With D4, the same thing but D4 sold so many and continues to sell and retain many, many players. If you guys think POE2 will be any different you havent paid attention to anything over the last several years.

@youtoobz146

10 күн бұрын

Sure. D4 sells more and like always will. That has a lot to do with players. People who play new blizzard titles generally have low standards. It has to be the case since all S4 did was add a recycled system and recycled bosses. Not a single piece of original content.

@canisinumbra

10 күн бұрын

@@youtoobz146 as itemisation is endgame in this genre they introduced more than enough nee content.

@youtoobz146

10 күн бұрын

@@canisinumbra no, itemization isn't endgame lol. Things to do are the endgame. Contrary to what you may believe, smashing your face against the same shit over and over isn't an endgame. Hence why Path of Exile is better in every way.

@canisinumbra

10 күн бұрын

@@youtoobz146 Yes, itemisation IS endgame in a lootgrinder. That’s the whole purpose. Even all so called end game activities are tailored around to get more loot. It’s an endless loop. You’re never finished entirely. You do repetitive grind in PoE, too. Every damn league again and again ans again to obtain items.

@shayaharonson9634

10 күн бұрын

@@canisinumbratrolling on every post I see. Itemization is not end game in PoE, every player has his own goals, be it beating all Ubers, delve depth, completing challenges, finish seasonal content, making homebrewed off meta builds and trying to push them to limits such as t17 or 100% deli or whatever else. And to show you the obvious mistake in your claim, since you probably don’t know how to play PoE, majority of PoE players don’t even grind for items they farm currency barely ever picking up items, to strategize a deterministic craft (or purchase off trade) unlike diablo’s dumb down basic crafting system with no strategy just a pure slot machine gamble. And here’s another thing for you to consider, how do you farm your items in D4? Most efficient is to kill helltide boss over and over non stop. With multiple broken builds in the area she’s shot down in 3 hits. It’s dumb, it’s not challenging, it’s far from fun, it’s repetitive and most likely not even rewarding. It’s okay if you’re one of those people that give up when things get difficult and don’t want to invest in learning. PoE is not for everyone. Enjoy your failed game developed by a failure of a company.

D4 is still trash. They are just turning the game into D3. They are already asking for more money. The game feels like early access right now. They don't have a proper endgame; they are just modifying numbers to create difficulty. Pit 150, Pit 250, Pit 500. Same mobs. Same bosses. Same locations. 95% of Uniques don't matter. Its MMO. Not ARPG.

blizzard big mistake... theyr devs dont play games or are gamers... i mean real ones like GGG devs... that makes a big dif. on final results

I honestly think with season 4 diablo iv got a true 1.0 release. Season 1 and 3 were utter shit. Season 1 just had very little to do and too much rngesus. Season 3 actually had some good ideas and i can see why they thought this was a good thing to try. The story was fascinating. The issue was it was just too much to get into everything. Season 2 was freaking amazingly fun to level but rngesus struck again. Moving the codexes to the codex library that are reusable. Having 925 drop at a guaranteed monster level is great. Tempering and mastering are interesting ideas. The issue is still too much rngesus. Wth is with greater affixes being so rare and when you do get one it’s shit? Tempering having the worst possibilities with greater weights. I’m looking forward to poe 2 but I’m probably going to stick with d4 for a while.

they def lost after immortal it did to much damage

Compare D4 with PoE is a massive disrespect for GGG, they aren't the same game or type of game. There is no point on comparing because they are completely different games for completely different audience and players, also because #D4Bad