The House That Fooled the Targaryens: House Toland

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  • @rodrickhatton8636
    @rodrickhatton8636Ай бұрын

    I imagine that during the conquest, the Dornish were living in underground caverns like a fremen sietch.

  • @thalmoragent9344

    @thalmoragent9344

    Ай бұрын

    Tbh, Dorne held out but definitely got nuked into a dry (well, dryer) wasteland so yeah, pretty much Arrakis 😅

  • @GabFrrost

    @GabFrrost

    7 күн бұрын

    You should learn about Christians of Capadochia.

  • @Nemenon
    @NemenonАй бұрын

    Interesting story, has George written anything regarding House Targaryens feelings towards Tolands new sigil? That sort of mockery wouldn't typically go unnoticed.

  • @user-zp4pt7rx1k

    @user-zp4pt7rx1k

    Ай бұрын

    GRRM hasn’t written anything in years.

  • @Allegiancy

    @Allegiancy

    Ай бұрын

    @@user-zp4pt7rx1kA fool’s assumption lol

  • @Honda-wf6qj

    @Honda-wf6qj

    Ай бұрын

    Written and published are two very different things....pretty sure a lot of JRR Tolkiens stories were not published until after his death by his son. Not the Hobbit or Lord of the rings but others...

  • @ka-boom2083

    @ka-boom2083

    14 күн бұрын

    @@AllegiancyGRRM haven’t published any works in years

  • @ericbleyendaal2669

    @ericbleyendaal2669

    6 күн бұрын

    Considering that they made the change in sigil over a century before the integration of Dorne into the Seven Kingdoms, not really that relevant what the Targaryens thought.

  • @aprilmae274
    @aprilmae27429 күн бұрын

    Green and Gold are also the colors of the Cheque Lion and the apples of Fossaway's. To me, it reads like House Toland had something to do with what happened to Rheanys.

  • @AmiWhiteWolf
    @AmiWhiteWolfАй бұрын

    Found this new channel about A song of ice and fire and I love it! Keep up the good work!

  • @dhalps23
    @dhalps23Ай бұрын

    It’s interesting how the Dornish people including Nymeria and her people are from the cities & area of the Mother Rhoyne in Essos. Her ancestors and people (the Rhoynar) fought in the Rhoynish Wars for many centuries against the Valyrian Freehold. Therefore, it makes total sense that Dorne is more prepared against the Targaryen conquest and is less willing to “bend the knee”. They’re already predisposed to not like Valyrians and dragons. I’m sure stories are told across generations so these Dornish people and even ‘The Children of the Greenblood’ all already feel a certain way. Anyway, it would be cool if GRRM could ever include a book about Dorne w their history since they were separate and not a part of the original “Seven Kingdoms’… I doubt this will ever happen as we have already been waiting for so long for TWOW.

  • @nunyabiznes33

    @nunyabiznes33

    Ай бұрын

    I just want water mages

  • @Dadecorban

    @Dadecorban

    2 күн бұрын

    The strategy of the Dornish against the Targs is entirely different from the strategies used by the Rhoynar against the Valyrians. There were no working strategies or weapons brought with the Rhoynar so it makes no sense to think of them as being more prepared because of their heritage. If they brought anything with them, it was stories that leave one overall cultural impression "Don't fight dragons". Whereas the standard Dornish strategy, Dorne being almost always outnumbered and outresourced by it's enemies is to strike and then disappear into the desert/mountains; don't fight pitched battles against superior foes. The collective wisdom of both heritages leads to the same strategy. I'm not certain that the Dornish, absent Rhoynar heritage would have had a different strategy than what ended up happening. But if anything, it simply reinforced their own inclinations. If the Dornish were better prepared, it was only better prepared to hide and endure hardship and material loss. Let's not forget that they also had the examples of the entirety of Aegon's conquest of the other kingdoms as example. There's enough other factors there to give credit to that don't require the Rhoynar heritage thesis to work; but if it did anything, it again, reinforced their inclinations. The North chose to bend the knee, which is entirely antithetical to their pre-existing millennia old inclinations; so lets not discount how important the example of Harrenhal and the Field of Fire were, or how important individuals leaders are to these things (Meria Martell was a tough, stubborn, and belligerant old toad)

  • @zk4654
    @zk4654Ай бұрын

    You forgot to include that they killed meraxses and reynes

  • @Vizzy_T

    @Vizzy_T

    Ай бұрын

    Meraxes* Rhaenys*

  • @dtp06
    @dtp0624 күн бұрын

    Dorne deserved better in the GoT show. The entire Dornish plot felt rushed and under-developed.

  • @hippiehillape

    @hippiehillape

    10 сағат бұрын

    All of GoT was

  • @billberndtson
    @billberndtsonАй бұрын

    Good morning, Zorse! :D Great video - keep em coming!

  • @rimacalid6557
    @rimacalid6557Ай бұрын

    South of Westerose has the last words in the books and the whole story.

  • @pineapplesthechad4757
    @pineapplesthechad4757Ай бұрын

    goods work and nice video

  • @LeviathanSpeaks1469
    @LeviathanSpeaks1469Ай бұрын

    Going by show lore… I can see House Toland taking over Dorne after House Martell goes extinct 🐉

  • @saberserpent1134
    @saberserpent1134Ай бұрын

    I wonder how things would've shaken out, if Aegon had sent Visenya to Dorne, instead of Rhaenys? I don't see Visenya being dissuaded as easily, regardless of The Toad's words.

  • @drrohanjacob5343

    @drrohanjacob5343

    Ай бұрын

    Visenya probably would have just burnt the whole nation down . The dornish would continue gAuruella tactics with visenya doing a maintenence burning every few years untill she finally decided to wipe out all life in dorne

  • @NumeriSuntDeus

    @NumeriSuntDeus

    28 күн бұрын

    The Scorpion bolts are very persuasive, especially face to face.

  • @AtheAetheling

    @AtheAetheling

    4 күн бұрын

    @@drrohanjacob5343 I feel like that would have been better in the long run. Dorne is an awful place.

  • @drrohanjacob5343

    @drrohanjacob5343

    4 күн бұрын

    @@AtheAetheling True

  • @stuartday1330
    @stuartday13303 күн бұрын

    Haha that ghost could not have possibly been House Tolands banner. That would be funny

  • @Rebel_Lord_Taron
    @Rebel_Lord_TaronАй бұрын

    Great video! I really enjoy the dornish plot in the books. I must make myself clear it sucks that we have to do this but yeah the books Dornish plot, not the show.

  • @maxbarrowman5471
    @maxbarrowman5471Ай бұрын

    Interesting

  • @cenn4843
    @cenn4843Күн бұрын

    I hate how shit they portrayed this badass region in the show

  • @AlexandrZaytsevet
    @AlexandrZaytsevet7 күн бұрын

    The sheer disrespect lmao

  • @thalmoragent9344
    @thalmoragent9344Ай бұрын

    I mean, what's cool and all... but what does anyone really know about House Toland? 😅

  • @SssSsssaaa-sx8os
    @SssSsssaaa-sx8osАй бұрын

    Ck2!!!!

  • @taonglobo
    @taonglobo8 күн бұрын

    The targs should have unleshed the krakens instead of their dragons.