*Know a film you're surprised I haven't covered yet? Let me know in the comments!* Also, I'm streaming casually over on Twitch if you want more however's in your diet: www.twitch.tv/horrorhollinger

@cruelsummer3021

3 жыл бұрын

when i finally get you to cover the haunting anthology on netflix>>>

@The_Republic_of_Ireland

3 жыл бұрын

Legion

@sukamydoodle3341

3 жыл бұрын

That movie where that thing happen the. That person did something else

@phoebeglasscock7149

3 жыл бұрын

You never reply :(

@jpvielleux

3 жыл бұрын

Lots of uploads lately Ryan, thanks! Chasing sleep and The taking of Debrah Logan are my suggestions.

My favorite trivia about this movie is about the woman playing Jane Doe. They didn't have a mannequin/CGI for her (besides when they were cutting her open and breaking her bones obvi). The actress spent the entire movie laying still and staring straight up to give Jane Doe an eerie quality of being alive.

@alicelostinwonderland7266

3 жыл бұрын

One of my favorite things about it. Like I think in my mind when I watch a movie and they use a mannequin for a corpse I can just tell, I know it’s not a person, but with this movie deep down you know that that is a person laying there that at any moment could move.

@myettechase

3 жыл бұрын

man i would love to do that but like as a corpse with closed eyes. like literally take a nap all day and get paid to do it. the dream

@toxicsugarart2103

3 жыл бұрын

@Kyle Riel OOF

@DammnDeejay

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Now it’s time to rewatch!

@katymaurer388

3 жыл бұрын

@@myettechase "Get paid to be a corpse." That's a Mood.

*SPOILERS* The fact that Jane Doe was alive the whole time and could feel everything being done to her is terrifying.

@katdeasyy

3 жыл бұрын

100% that was the scariest thing about tr movie for me and kinda what I expected this video to focus on, all of her injuries sound unbearable especially when she can't ever die, I'd probably kill people too if I had to deal with that for eternity lol

@SmashBrosBrawl

2 жыл бұрын

Spoiler she was actually a witch this entire time so who gives a fuck

@chasebarber10

2 жыл бұрын

@@SmashBrosBrawl she was innocent when this all happened to her which created her abilities we would deem today as "witch" attributes

@SmashBrosBrawl

2 жыл бұрын

@@chasebarber10 SHES EVIL >:(

@phank.s.4052

2 жыл бұрын

Tbf they took the paralytic herb and the hex bag supressing her power out of her so she's better off than she was before.

The part that messed me up about this movie was that the cat's injury was probably an illusion from the corpse. He killed his cat for no reason. 😭

@nightmarefanatic1819

2 жыл бұрын

There's also a theory that she was trying to use the as a sacrifice to heal herself but it got killed off before she could do it so had to use Tommy instead.

@alinao1481

2 жыл бұрын

Nope because a real cat would fight off anyone trying to kill it. The witch fatally wounded the cat for her own reasons and the cat could not fight back because she is supernatural. That is what the writer tires to imply the whole time that the witch is doing the killing.

@sudevsen

Жыл бұрын

@@nightmarefanatic1819 Mr Whiskers NO

@grogwire

Жыл бұрын

NO! I didn’t even think about that. Now it hurts.

@Averyr91

11 ай бұрын

@@alinao1481I don’t know if you noticed but this is a movie lol

The scare when the son realized the "outside help" was just an illusion is literally one of my all time favorite scares. It truly felt like a nightmare having that little glimpse of hope just fade away and with such a mocking tone at that. I loved it.

@MrJagermeister

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Spending this whole film inside that environment (except for a very few shots, this is a single location movie) made it claustrophobic and that adds to the fear of wanting to GET OUT. So with the son so close to doing that and having it ripped away from him was perhaps a bigger scare than a lot of what came before it even.

@MothsAreTheBest

3 жыл бұрын

"Open up! Open up! Oooopen up your heart and let the sun shine in"

@anitaknight3915

3 жыл бұрын

@@MothsAreTheBest that song is soooo creepy!!! I cannot get the lyrics out of my head🤣😂

@spritekidz8549

3 жыл бұрын

absolutely, that scene still gives me chills when i think about it.

@RosaMelano-rs5bx

2 жыл бұрын

kinda reminds me of the descent's ending

There are so many modern horror films where the "why" of it all is incredibly underwhelming.

@bernardsoul5186

3 жыл бұрын

Such as?

@joeabernathy5402

3 жыл бұрын

@@bernardsoul5186 You're Next, The Autopsy of Jane Doe, The majority of Ti West's films, The Lodge, Goodnight Mommy. It's not just films either, almost every season of American Horror Story falls apart for the same reason.

@bernardsoul5186

2 жыл бұрын

@@joeabernathy5402 Huh, I haven't seen those other films, but now I know I don't have to. I do agree about the AHS episodes

@jerryrose9472

7 ай бұрын

The entire scene where they reveal the discovery JD is a "witch" was done so clumsy and lazily. One of the few scenes I was really disappointed with.

@shockwavecg

3 ай бұрын

@@bernardsoul5186 Hereditary. That ending was a massive let-down.

I always thought she killed the kid at the end because he ended his father's suffering rather than let Jane Doe do it. He gave him a way out she didn't get and that enraged her.

@danijel83

3 жыл бұрын

👍

@jfontanez1838

2 ай бұрын

Very true remember the dad asked her not too hurt his son he made a deal with her he told her he wouldn’t fight back the dad was getting so much torture that Austin killed his dad and she wasn’t done so she came for him

@edenwayne8407

24 күн бұрын

I'm actually surprised on how many people here seem to not get that. I watched it with friends many times before, and never had anyone get confused over it.

The twist ending makes sense because the son stabbed the father in the heart (ending his suffering faster than was supposed to happen) so Jane Doe's pact with the father (he had to feel and experience every ounce of her suffering) was void and the son, who voided the pact, had to die. It all makes sense looking at it this way.

@cgijokerman5787

3 жыл бұрын

It's not about not making sense though. It's about what it conceptualized and the subtext.

@tympestbooks1727

3 жыл бұрын

It makes sense, but that doesn't mean that it feels satisfying. We can understand that the son voided his father's pact with Jane Doe by putting him out of his misery, but it also feels a bit cheep to have had him die at the end.

@DisDatK9

3 жыл бұрын

I didn’t think about that, very interesting. But I still think that the ending could have been so much better, rather than the standard cop out “Bad” ending that it turned into. I think the ending dropped the wall in a big way.

@mareczek00713

3 жыл бұрын

@@tympestbooks1727 That's the thing - WE can understand that as the viewers sittingn in our homes but this isn't necessarily the case for a tortured spirit or supernatural entity possessing a body.

@tympestbooks1727

3 жыл бұрын

@@mareczek00713 I think we're coming at the same conclusion from two different directions here, we both agree that Jane Doe not letting the son go after he mercy kills his father makes sense because that broke the father's pact with her. But, even knowing that it makes sense in story, it doesn't feel like a satisfying ending. Both the father and son are dead, the son's attempt at sparing his father more pain ultimately got him killed, and Jane Doe is stick stuck as an immortal corpse despite all of this. It isn't a matter of the antagonist winning on this one, it's that it just feels like everyone lost.

An extra video from Ryan Hollinger means an extra "HOWEVER" in the week.

@LnPPersonified

3 жыл бұрын

Don't you mean "HOWEREVER"?

@lordbasilisk

3 жыл бұрын

"HOW-EEVERR." He's like Chills but entertaining.

@illiteratebastard7421

3 жыл бұрын

You mean "HOYEVER"

@domphilbrick

3 жыл бұрын

“Haiyeveh”

@mayflower5193

3 жыл бұрын

How-yeh-ver I literally get this word (in his voice) stuck in my head every time I hear him say it lmao thought I was the only one to notice.

Just before the son was killed, I honestly thought the father was going to become the next vessel and Jane Doe would finally be able to rest in peace and the implication being that this supernatural torture was something passed on in a cycle like a virus.

@ShinyJess1940

Жыл бұрын

This would of been a better idea

I too always interpreted the witch thing as she only became a witch in death, the constant torcher, and pseudo-religious practices created a spirit so powerfully vengeful that they created the very monster they set out to destroy. The idea that they broke and twisted this innocent girl into a misanthropic force of nature is incredibly compelling. As for the ending, the disappointing truth about revenge is... it never actually gives you the satisfaction that you hope it will. The fact that Austin released his father from the misery prematurely would have angered Jane even further.

@trustedroot

Ай бұрын

torture*

It's sad how many horror movies are made or broken on their last 15 minutes. Most other genres aren't as dependent on sticking the landing!

@SanguineCynic

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely. I'm looking at you "Await Further Instructions"

@Roberta_Trevino

3 жыл бұрын

@@SanguineCynic I was gonna get angry but then I realized that I though your were talking about "Instructions not included" which has an amazingly done twist ending

@SanguineCynic

3 жыл бұрын

@@Roberta_Trevino hmm, I've never heard of that one. I love a good movie so I'll check it out! Thanks for not getting mad 🤣 the one I mentioned isn't a bad movie, it just had kind of a weird ending that felt more like a cop out than a genuinely good twist.

@Roberta_Trevino

3 жыл бұрын

@@SanguineCynic Oh it's not horror or a thriller if that's what you're into but it's funny and as I said, it has a great ending.

@SanguineCynic

3 жыл бұрын

@@Roberta_Trevino gotcha. Horror is my favorite genre but I can appreciate other genres as well. I think I'll still give it a look, even if it's not scary.

The Autopsy of Ryan's Sudden Desire to Gift Us with Random Surprise Mid-Week Uploads. 👻✨

@RyanHollinger

3 жыл бұрын

“Contractual” Mid-Week Uploads ;)

@DJtheBlack-RibbonedRose

3 жыл бұрын

@@RyanHollinger Alright then, cool. The more uploads from you the merrier, because your breakdowns are the absolute best! (Truly, I'm not exaggerating that).

I think your summary of the bleakness of the ending perfectly applies to a lot of horror films that have miserable endings just because someone thinks that horror must equal misery.

@Samael767

3 жыл бұрын

This ^

@MrJagermeister

3 жыл бұрын

I think it’s justified in this film though. Jane Doe has spent hundreds of years trapped and feeling all of that pain. Ryan doesn’t quite grasp what the twist of the ending IS - the father accepts it, to make a trade, but the son takes his father’s life to prevent HIM from suffering (which sure as fuck wasn’t the deal that Jane got) and he does so before the switch is even complete. Not to mention these two guys just spent two hours literally slicing open and dissecting this poor woman who could feel it all, you really think after hundreds of years she’s gonna make a distinction of “oh it’s ok they’re just doing their job”??

@moonriver7439

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrJagermeister the ending is lame plain and simple.

@bernardsoul5186

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrJagermeister It makes sense from her perspective, but the whole movie had been centered on the father and son's perspective, so it doesn't make sense thematically, in my opinion.

@bernardsoul5186

3 жыл бұрын

​@@moonriver7439 "Plain and simple." Bruh, that's YOU. Use some critical thinking and back up your point of view if you want to be taken for anything other than plain and simple.

The “Bell” scene is honestly one of the most chilling scenes I’ve seen in recent horror. Great work, Ryan!

I always feel like Scott Derrickson is so close to pioneering a new age for horror cinema but never quite perfects his craft, you just explained that feeling perfectly. Also speaking of horror movies I feel ambivalent about, have you considered doing a video on The Blackcoat's Daughter? I would be interested to hear what you think of it.

@mareczek00713

3 жыл бұрын

He seriously needs to go more Japan with his horror dropping jump scares for more drama with slowly increasing creepiness instead of ticking off western horror tropes. Like, I gef it, he does his thing but feels like he has to pander to most consumer expectation as making movies costs money, only shame is his best traits kinda conflict with what makes money best.

@mishfishy7645

3 жыл бұрын

That’s exactly how I felt about Sinister. It was soooo good until the end, a lot like this movie. It feels like he gets tired and throws it away.

@spilled_beans

3 жыл бұрын

Omg I have been thinking he should review the Blackcoat's Daughter for awhile now too. It's so underrated in my opinion and just leaves you with so many mixed emotions.

@spilled_beans

3 жыл бұрын

@callmecatalyst oh yeah i have seen her channel. I love her channel too! 😊 I hope she gets more recognition on KZread.

@targard.quantumfrack6854

3 жыл бұрын

I love slow burners (one of my favs is Session 9) but I found this one quite boring, watched it with my SO and she shared my sentiment. I might give it another go or watch an analysis.

I absolutely loved this movie. I scrolled past it so many times on Netflix and then finally watched it when I had nothing else to watch and I was pleasantly surprised and mad that I didn’t watch it earlier.

@msjkramey

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I started watching it with some friends amd they got too spooked and turned it off. I was so invested with the mystery though that when I went to bed, I finished it by myself in the dark. Nightmares. Horrible nightmares lol. I dreamt that I had a living autopsy and could feel everything but I couldn't move

@metallicbigtoe3949

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I was coming here to say that too, I loved this movie, creepy as all hell ! The Platform is another great one on Netflix 👍

@gvtterslag

3 жыл бұрын

Surprise surprise it's not on U.K Netflix 😒

@metallicbigtoe3949

3 жыл бұрын

@@gvtterslag it used to be but its gone now yeah, The Platform is there though 👍

@RandomCrewPotatoSoup

3 жыл бұрын

i really loved this movie. super simple, eerie, and when Brian Cox says “let’s get the fuck out of here” that’s when i knew this movie would stick with me. it’s not perfect, but movies are never perfect. i love it for what it is

"The ending left me more angry than empty" YES, you really put into words what I felt when I finished the movie, there's no real emotional catharsis in the ending. Jane Doe goes from a seemly complex and ambiguous character to "I WAS EVIL ALL ALONG MWAHAHAHA" and it was a real disservice to narrative for me.

@Gomenred

3 жыл бұрын

But she wasn't, the son killed his dad before he had fulfilled his end of the deal she was only partially revived, had the son not killed his dad before she had finished the deal very well could've remained.

@jmn327

3 жыл бұрын

@@Gomenred But even if that can be seen as logical, I think the argument is that it still doesn't really thematically suit what the overall film was going for. The story being told was of the father and son, yet the ending, even if it fits the internal logic of the film to some degree, doesn't really focus on that, and seems (I haven't watched the film, so I'm not saying for certain) more about getting a last big jump scare and bigger downer ending shoehorned in.

@bored6178

3 жыл бұрын

As soon as the witch stuff started my eyes were rolling the rest of the movie 🙄🙄🙄

@Gomenred

3 жыл бұрын

@@jmn327 well it wasn't really about the father and son's relationship, the father and son have a good relationship already, the only issue was him not wanting to take over and that plot point is literally never referenced again. The movie is pretty explicitly about the mystery of jane doe's demise and yes the father's own issues with his wife's death though to a lesser degree. That all being said yeah it took the path that lead to a cheap jump scare but that's not the issue that I argued against here and in the video she wasn't painted as just being an evil witch which is the issue being brought up, the deal that was made was not fulfilled so the son died it's that simple. If you wanted a feel good ending, that was cancelled out as soon as the son killed his dad. If you had watched the movie before having it spoiled here you would've noticed it. I really recommend just watching the movie because generally it was indeed in line with the rest of the story as the deaths are implied to have played out there same way with the previous victims. It seems more that people wanted a mystery drama rather than the supernatural horror that the movie actually was.

@CockroachJesus

3 жыл бұрын

@@Gomenred But all the damage was taken by the father, so at the very most he would have fight through an intense pain of what she felt.

Even as a jaded adult who has seen it all in horror movies, there were scenes in this movie that legitimately freaked me out or gave me the chills. The moment when SPOILER the kid thinks the police is calling for him but the voice starts singing. That shit freaked me the fUUCK out

The anxiety i felt watching this film was intense because I kept assuming that the twist was going to be that Jane Doe was alive the whole time and was just paralyzed. The horror of unnecessary surgery/autopsy is real.

@liamfaoisidheold

3 жыл бұрын

Oh g o d. I want to see that horrifying movie.

@ivamanral989

2 жыл бұрын

She was indeed alive...and healed herself through the father

@kukachoo42

Жыл бұрын

pulse, breathing, other vital signs

@hailee1001

Жыл бұрын

there is a movie based on that, i found it on a movie site after i watched the autopsy of jane doe, it was in a different language but i still watched some, til there was a “necrophelia” scene… and i was done with that movie :/

@edenwayne8407

24 күн бұрын

I think it would have been a pretty fast ending of them realizing that she's alive. Since you know, they're forensic pathologists. You could make them not realize that she's alive, but that would be also a fast end but with her dying because of bloodloss and such. You can drag it too, but I think that's one of the first twists that audience's would guess, so it'll be like "(15 mins in) oh she's alive isn't she? (60 mins later) *plot twist she's alive* oh yeah.... ok".

I didn't really feel like Jane Doe was wholly evil. I felt it was implied that she was conscious and had to endure the pain of having her body ripped open by these two men, essentially being tortured and scrutinized all over again. It kinda made sense to me that she wouldn't let either of them just go free. She's bitter, scarred, and traumatized and she's been forced to remain trapped in her body for centuries. She wanted to rest in peace, but instead she was dug up and unwittingly tortured. I think that fit the theme perfectly in that it showed how detrimental being bitter and cold towards other people because of past trauma can be.

@ARINOXMUSIC

7 ай бұрын

That's her fault on her part ,how were they supposed to know she was concious , the same way she communicated to them on the radio prior to her autopsy , she could have said something or shown a sign that she wanted to be in peace but instead the truth of the matter is she did this intentionally

@edenwayne8407

24 күн бұрын

​@@ARINOXMUSIC Yeah, they didn't know, so they didn't deserve it. But, that doesn't negate every pain and suffering she went through. Life isn't just "bad things happen to bad people" or "bad people do bad things" sometimes it's "innocent gets caught up in an innocent victim's reaction to their predicament and becomes victims themselves"

I'm glad that they didn't do a part 2: JANE DOE GETS AUTOPSIED AGAIN.

@Thesavagesouls

3 жыл бұрын

Don't underestimate Hollywood's greed.

@JeanMarceaux

3 жыл бұрын

Autopsy of Jane Doe 2: Autopsy Harder

@onizukaeichiki470

28 күн бұрын

“Jane Doe: Ah shit here we go again”

I generally took away from Austin dying that it was because of the mercy kill he did on his father Tommy and that broke the deal and she was like, "Welp, deal's broke." However, it's the final scene where she's just seemingly pleased with herself that sell that it was the plan to kill 'em both from the start. So I don't really know.

It started off so well, great atmosphere, good characters, I literally cried when the cat thing happened... But towards the end of act two the film got so much worse, fell flat at the end. Disappointing, it could've been one of the best horrors EVER!

@Ebi.Adonkie

3 жыл бұрын

I agree 💯 The first act was so awesome. I was glued and hooked. The second part was a whimper.

@adamradon8202

3 жыл бұрын

@@Ebi.Adonkie yup. I couldn't believe I was watching the same film, as if they've changed the writer at some point, or run out of budget and shot the rest in hurry. I haven't watched Ryan's video yet, just went straight to shitting on that film. Got to get it off my... chest, promise to check the essay!

@Lifesizemortal

3 жыл бұрын

The whole movie is awesome tf are you talking about. Literally how else should it have ended

@HarverTheSlayer

3 жыл бұрын

@@Lifesizemortal Well, Ryan acually explains that in the video: let the father sacrifice himself to let his son escape. And maybe not kill his girlfriend in such a gratuitous way. I enjoyed the movie, but I must agree when people say that the last part just feels extremely cliché, compared to how well it starts.

@adamradon8202

3 жыл бұрын

@@Lifesizemortal we can agree to disagree

I honestly loved this movie. The story, the acting, was so good. I wish we had gotten more.

The Ask a Mortician channel is fascinating. Everything you ever wanted to know about death and the mortuary business but were afraid to ask.

@gabriellebraswell3306

3 жыл бұрын

Omg I love Caitlin

@cassualtea2040

3 жыл бұрын

god I learn so much from her honestly. Sometimes its stuff I didn't even consider or stuff I did not know was an option.

@avengeddisciple

3 жыл бұрын

My spouse is a funeral director, and despises Caitilin. She misrepresents the field, while also pretending like shit such as alternative services like green burials are somehow new and innovative despite being around for decades. She's not amazing.

@yupitsjessbbyx3

3 жыл бұрын

@@avengeddisciple none of those claims are accurate. Your spouse is going to be biased by her opinions but at the end of the day she’s collaborated with embalmers and emphasizes that whatever service you want should be available to you even if it’s traditional. There’s nothing wrong with being educated and having more than two basic options. She’s also spoken about aquamation, possible composting of remains in the future, funeral practices in other cultures and then of course natural burial which she has never implied to be a new or practice unique to her business.

@avengeddisciple

3 жыл бұрын

@Jessica Ayala they*, and they're not the only person with a negative opinion of Caitilin. There are entire online communities that openly despise her for misrepresenting funeral directing as a field. How? The "two basic options" don't exist, and never have. Alternative methods have been offered for decades, for example.

I don't understand why she doesn't fully reanimate at the end. Her body “comes back to life” after the father makes his sacrifice and then nothing else happens?

@C.A.P.F.

3 жыл бұрын

Well she can now move her toes, right? Or could she do that all along? And if so, why only the toes? Would've preferred if they had left her unable to move at all because that would've played more into the "She's just a vessel for something evil but can't do anything about it" thing.

@kelvingriffiths6017

3 жыл бұрын

She goes on to end the world in my mind. She was always really annoyed at her abuse and the film clearly shows she cannot be destroyed. Basically, there was never any real deal, just a victim girl who now has the powers she was accused of and is super annoyed.

@kelvingriffiths6017

3 жыл бұрын

@@C.A.P.F. There never was a "deal" with the father. Just a lie to begin rejuvenating herself and carry on with her revenge. At least that's what I took from it.

@Tina_95

3 жыл бұрын

Someone else in the comments said this but I think because the son stabs the dad it sort of reverses the promise that was made. In the end though we don't really know much about the body/demon/spirit/whatever so it might just be pure evil and there was no real deal to begin with.

@radiostatic

3 жыл бұрын

@@Tina_95 That could be true!

Personally, I think that if they had skipped the cheap girlfriend death and changed the ending so that he simply got knocked out by the scare that Jane doe set up for him rather than dying it would have worked better. Then of course they could do the same sequel set up that they did by revealing that jane doe is missing since she obviously regenerated to some extent. Heck, they even could have had both Jane doe and the father missing. Still love the movie mind, but liking something shouldn't preclude it from criticism.

When I first watched this movie, I thought it was going to be a movie of the actual autopsy of a girl who's death is shrouded in mystery or had really bizarre and creepy things done to her corpse that they couldn't figure out how they happened. But it was ruined by adding the whole devil and demons in the building thing. It had such great potential to be a really eerie and creepy movie where the horror could be genuinely built up through the tension of them trying to figure out what happened to her. Such wasted potential

@nightmarefanatic1819

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. It would have made a great unnerving movie. It didn't need to be flat out horror because the basic premise was interesting enough.

This video could be titled "The Autopsy of The Autopsy of Jane Doe"

@cousinmajin

3 жыл бұрын

Underrated comment

You voiced my exact issue with "witch" based horror movies! Having been to Salem and taken a historical tour and learning about just how horribly these people were treated, it fills me with horror that so many movies go "actually, the innocent women killed by religious extremism were really the EVIL ones!". It's actually vile. That's also my issue with exorcism movies. In my mind, whenever the person who's being tortured and/or killed based off of extreme religious beliefs turns out to "really be the evil one", it's just furthering the victimization of people who have suffered these things in the real world- people who may have been mentally ill, or even just diverged somehow from societal norms. I'm much more interested in seeing these victims get justice rather than seeing them be turned into monsters for the crime of being abnormal in some way. I thought that perhaps the Autopsy of Jane Doe could have actually highlighted the fact that the woman was an innocent victim but they just had to get that last plot twist in there...

@3cowboysinatrenchcoat

3 жыл бұрын

The fact that most of the victims of the witch trials (not just in Salem, but in Europe too) were widows, elderly, enslaved people, or those who didn't have the financial or social protection of men (either because they were unmarried or because they didn't have surviving fathers) really just makes the demonization of them so much worse. These were (mostly) women who literally had no way of protecting or defending themselves, and even in death, people treat them without dignity or respect. Outside of specific academic circles, most people treat the witch trials as such a joke, instead of the horrific tragedy that it really was.

@Thesavagesouls

3 жыл бұрын

Jeez theses aren't supposed to be documentaries or history movies. You can create an evil witch character without implying that the women that got really killed during witch trials were evil. We can't have entertainement when there is people like you whinning about people dead hundred years ago.

@finpin2622

3 жыл бұрын

@@Thesavagesouls You can also create witch movies without saying "this is the ghost of a woman from the Salem witch trials!!!" or otherwise reference actual, real history. I'm fine with something like "The Blair Witch Project" because it never references actual historical events where innocent people were wrongfully murdered. I mean jesus, imagine if someone made a movie about a victim of a serial killer and made the serial killer be in the right and their victim an evil demon creature. It's fucked up.

@liamfaoisidheold

3 жыл бұрын

As a witch... we're not harmful or evil either. What happened to real witches and all the innocent people who died at the hands or religious bigots disgusts me. We are not evil and no one, witch or not, deserved to be killed, tortured, and... well yeah, you get the point.

@erythrozyt1168

3 жыл бұрын

This my biggest problem with most superstitious movies

Emile Hirsch is an underrated actor and I want to see him in more great roles. I can totally see him having that Robert Pattinson arc where he builds up his reputation with smaller but brilliant roles until he's become one of the most respected actors in Hollywood.

@LimpyKjr117

3 жыл бұрын

he's great in alpha dog and the girl next door! Both movies are from the mid 2000s

@warandpoetry9542

3 жыл бұрын

@@LimpyKjr117 Right? And Speed Racer is genuinely one of my favourite movies of all time.

@thevoicestoldmetoagain4627

Жыл бұрын

Hes been in the business for 20 years. Hes already well established. Just doesnt get much screen time these days. Hes like a B-list A-lister in Hollywood. Well known but at the same time unknown. His main audience was like 12 years ago. That generation moved on and the next generation just doesnt care.

I'd like to say thank you for not posting these super late at night so that I can watch and also sleep tonight. 😂

@AxelTabbertFrylestam

3 жыл бұрын

In sweden his videos are posted around 10 pm, so its always the last thing I see before going to sleep...

@AveryTalksAboutStuff

3 жыл бұрын

@@AxelTabbertFrylestam oh gosh that's so scary! 😂

I always saw the ending justified. As I remember the movie, the son killed the father before he went through all the pain she went through. The ritual/restoration wasn't fully complete as he didn't die from the pain as I felt like she did, who knows how long she suffered for or the father would for her to be fully restored. Again, one could argue he went through enough and she should let the son go, but as I can imagine back in the day it was all or nothing. Once you seal the deal with anyone, it is done and if you break away they can kind of can do what they want instead. I can also imagine that it was mostly men who did all of this, probably similar age as the son and father (the older teaching the young as per the old tradition). So for me, it was always a justified ending, where the deal they made wasn't honoured.

@danijel83

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@ang3lsilvas23

3 жыл бұрын

I don't believe so, I think her intentions was always to kill them. There is no way she would let the son go knowing all that he knows about her. She just tricked the father into giving her some rejuvenation and I feel she needs more than one body to go back to 100%

@ForrestFox626

2 жыл бұрын

Oh please. She was going to kill them both no matter what.

This movies seems like something that would keep me up at night.

@alicelostinwonderland7266

3 жыл бұрын

I watched it last year at night and yeah trust me I was jumpy and freaked out literally all night.

@agstinacueva1673

3 жыл бұрын

It isnt at all lol

Really been wanting you to cover this movie, never felt so disappointed by a seemingly great movie letting me down. Even now, two years after watching it, I feel the same frustration I felt then. It could’ve been so good...

@Lifesizemortal

3 жыл бұрын

Then how should it have ended

@ina304

3 жыл бұрын

@@Lifesizemortal I’m less upset about the ending and more about the second half feeling cheap. Since it has been two years since I last watched it, I can’t fully remember everything but I did enjoy the part of the ending showing that it’s a never ending cycle. This kind of thing could have happened before and could happen again. So I don’t mind the ending, but the journey to it was the disappointing part.

@oresteschrysaphis1870

3 жыл бұрын

This is exactly how I feel about It Follows

@helila

3 жыл бұрын

@@oresteschrysaphis1870 god same, I spent most of It Follows just loudly complaining about it.

@sinloi2675

3 жыл бұрын

@@oresteschrysaphis1870 to this day I still can't understand why It Follows has garnered the hype that it has. I like aspects of the film and the theme it tries to pass of at literally the last second but I just don't see how the narrative leading up comes to that conclusion which just makes it feel hollow

To me this is genuinely one of the greatest horror movies ever made. Its been a long time since a movie made me stay at the edge of my seat like this

@thedys70

7 ай бұрын

Totally; this one slipped behind many other over-rated horror films made in those years. I missed getting a copy on blu-ray at the time, and now they are scarce and thus expensive to source 2nd hand.

This is an all time top 5 for me, you’d better not trash it.

@evillynn4166

3 жыл бұрын

He might not, but I will! LOL

@msjkramey

3 жыл бұрын

@@evillynn4166 do it!!!!

@domphilbrick

3 жыл бұрын

@@evillynn4166 You truly are evil, as your name would suggest lol

@gaminganimators7000

3 жыл бұрын

@@evillynn4166 you gonna trash on it or....?

I could never put my finger on why I was so vehemently disappointed with Sinister and you hit the nail on the head in this vid. It's because the first half was clever and intriguing and the second half was just...predictable almost camp horror. The best horrors for me are always when the writer trusts in the audience's own speculation to be far greater a tool than whatever tropes and effects they can use. As always - amazing vid

You should watch 'The Corpse of Anna Fritz' Just like this one, it takes place in a mortuary, but it goes in a completely different direction. Also, it's one of the most disturbing movies I've watched.

@ellen5245

3 жыл бұрын

I really enjoyed “the corpse of Anna Fritz”. I wasn’t expecting much but was pleasantly surprised

@liamfaoisidheold

3 жыл бұрын

Where can this be watched? I hope it's the direction I wanted this movie to go, or an understanding to the mystery-

@mafaldaoliveira856

3 жыл бұрын

@@liamfaoisidheold It's on Amazon Prime Video It's not available in my country (Portugal) though, but if you have a VPN, you'll be good I think it's also available on KZread (Films)

@ellen5245

3 жыл бұрын

@@liamfaoisidheold I watched it on the website “effedupmovies”

@corinnae.7877

2 жыл бұрын

Satisfying end, big plottwist, literally disgusting. 9/10

This movie was alright. A nice little thrill.

The Ryan Hollinger drinking game is you take a shot ever he says “purgatory” or “ voyeuristic” or some variation of those words. You will be pissed after one video and dead by the third.

When you brought up the New England witch hunts, all I could think about was: 1. That they are highly exaggerated in the way they are talked about today. The Salem Witch Trials were an anomaly in Massachusetts history, as such poor excuses for evidence were not taken seriously before then, nor ever again afterward. 2. That the people accused and killed during the Salem Witch Trials were all, most likely, Christians and did not practice any form of witchcraft at all, not even folk magic and certainly not "Wicca." The way people talk about the Salem Witch Trials, and, for that matter, the witch trials of Medieval Europe, shows that people get the majority of their knowledge and perceptions of history from popular culture.

How fitting for Ryan to upload just after I turned in my cinematography homework for my online Movies class. 💖🎬

@commandercat10

3 жыл бұрын

Good luck dude

I felt the same way, I thought the setup of this was SO interesting and clever and then it kind of devolved into the conjuring 56 and the ending IS mean spirited.

@DrunkenEros

3 жыл бұрын

Why is mean spirited such a bad thing to do many people? It's a horror film

@ForrestFox626

2 жыл бұрын

@Dinky Horror =/= Mean Spirited

@wes8723

Жыл бұрын

@@ForrestFox626 How is it mean spirited? All those kills had meaning

@ShinyJess1940

Жыл бұрын

@@wes8723 the girlfriend's death was unnecessary. she was an innocent girl like Jane was. If anyone should of survived, it should of been her.

@tarotsushima3332

11 ай бұрын

​@@wes8723Setting up a sacrifice by the father to complete the father-son arc, addressing the son's need to get out of the morgue business and Jane Doe herself being a victim of the witch trials get resolved with an Everyone Dies! Ending when it doesn't serve the narrative for nothing more than a cheap scare is mean spirited.

The first half of this movie is some of the best movie material I've seen in a horror/thriller/suspense. I hated that the son and the girlfriend died. It's 🐄 💩

@carnuatus

3 жыл бұрын

AND THE CAT.

@404usernotfound_

3 жыл бұрын

@@carnuatus at least the cat got mourned, the girlfriend got kinda swept over imo

@L0dG

Жыл бұрын

The girlfriend did not die. It was an illusion just like the "help" that came at the very end. They covered only two bodies at the end. Father and son.

@ravirajbl1

Жыл бұрын

​@@L0dGyes correct only two bodies were taken

The ending to this movie pissed me off considering how much I liked what came before it. Also, why Jane didn't put the girlfriend's body on the table (truly mirroring the opening sequence) and just LEAVE as a revived woman just confused the hell out of me.

After watching this movie three time in two days, I made my sister come over and watch it. When toe bell guy is walking around, my sister was in a tight ball on my couch yelling "No Tinkles! Go Away Tinkles!" 🤣🤣🤣

The autopsy in this film is arguably the best autopsy scene I've ever seen. It's so engrossing to watch. Shame the ending was lame and unsatisfying. -_-

I think this is one of my favourite videos of yours because you managed to perfectly put into words one of the biggest issues and reoccuring frustrations I have with many horror films I've watched recently: they start out with a really unique/different/interesting idea and tone/style that sets it apart and makes it stand out from other horror films, where you can tell that the filmmaker had a very clear and thoughtout picture in their head of precicely what they wanted the film the be, look, and feel like - WHAT they wanted to say and HOW they wanted to say it. And it all starts - and ends - the same way .. every single time.... The first half is really good, quickly grabbing you as something *different*, establishing its tone and then slowly but carefully working to build on its story/narrative/themes, and you're really intruiged and genuinely interested... Then, all of the sudden.... The second-half of the film slowly and then very suddenly devolve into the same old generic creepy horror film we've seen a thousand times before, where all the thouthfulness and subtedly and cleverness goes out the window to make room for tripe creepy figures and cheap scares... And that drop at the end where the clichéd horror-tropes suddenly comes out often feels like it's due to the filmmaker's own fear of failure rather than their incapability to actually complete the film as is, without resorting to creepy clichés. Ugh. When you know how good a film *COULD* have been, but wasn't ---- not because they couldn't actually do it, but because the filmmakers simply lost faith in their own films' ability to stand on its own and because they (incorrectly) lacked faith in the audiences' ability (and willingness!) to be open to experiencing something new or different ... It's the most frustrating thing I know when it comes to horror films: Missed potential.

YEAAAAAAAAHHHHH RYAN HOLLINGER VID WHOOOOOOO

@absoluteidiotslive9978

3 жыл бұрын

yo @ryan since you liked my comment have you ever watched tron

Dam it's almost like every week I have a movie on my mind you cover it shortly thereafter!! Love it man

Every time you come out with a new video I get excite because I feel like I came across an old one I missed, then I get more excited because I realize it’s new

never commented on one of your videos before but I've been bingeing them for a month so luv you man

my main beef is that this movie plays enough like a mystery that in combination with the stock "salem witch" character endpoint it feels like you're supposed to have a shot at figuring it out for yourself- but figuring it out is made impossible because instead of doing about 30 seconds' worth of research, jane doe is stated to have compression to the waist indicating she spent a lot of time wearing a corset. the style of corset that would do that was popular with the Victorians. not only would the idea of tightlacing go pretty well against the whole puritan ethos of modesty and chastity and all, you /can't/ do that in a corset without metal grommets, which couldn't be produced until the Industrial Revolution. Watching for the first time, when they bring up that the dirt in her nails or whatever might be from New England, I considered that they were going in a Salem direction and decided that was impossible, because of the corset stuff!

@merchantfan

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I'm not sure if there'd even be any physical sign of wearing stays- they weren't as restrictive as the Victorian or Edwardian corset.

@nightmarefanatic1819

2 жыл бұрын

I was really hoping it would have been revealed to be a different reason but nope, they just used the whole tightlacing myth that, if it actually happened at all, would have been about 200 years after Jane Doe existed. They didn't even use corsets, they used stays.

@carnuatus

Жыл бұрын

Ehhh. There was a New England Vampire Panic in the 19th century. So I could see a panic plausibly happening during that time. However, I do agree with you since the vibe of the movie is that she was tortured and killed by Europeans (that is the vibe I got, anyway) and likely pre-19th century. So, yeah, I get what you mean. Sigh, I didn't even think of that.

The ending of this movie is kind of emblematic of my issues with modern horror. Horror movies nowadays are more focused on provoking you/getting a cheap emotional response, rather than actually being unsettling and creepy. IMO, this movie would have been way better if there were no supernatural elements at all, and it was just the main characters freaking themselves out over nothing.

@ArDeeMee

Ай бұрын

Then you would just complain about a cheap bait-n-switch.

Love your point about Salem. As an Historian focused on colonial social history, my biggest gripe with pop culture depictions of Salem isn't necessarily the need to insert actual witchcraft into the narrative (though yes it is more often than not in very poor taste) but rather in how reductive these works make the whole event. The Salem witch trials weren't a random instance of mass hysteria/paranoia but merely one extreme example of a commonplace practice. Accusations of witchcraft were not about certain individuals being labeled 'outcasts' by a backwards community, they were about specific groups being ostracized as a way of social control. One of the scariest parts about the actual Salem trials was in how self perpetuating this control became to the point that normally 'safe' (influential/accepted community voices) groups could find themselves targeted just for questioning the proceedings. By just making it all actually about witches, these works disregard very real issues that still persist in society today. For the record, The VVitch is an INCREADIBLY accurate depiction of colonial views/beliefs on witchcraft and a great deal of its success in this regard is how Robert Eggers uses it to examine the very real issues I just alluded to. It doesn't just 'get ' witches, it 'gets' why their were 'witches'

I was watching this on my phone and literally a beat after you said “predictable scares,” an Amber alert went off on my phone

I actually really like the bleak ending if only for that creepy as fuck part where the detective (roose bolton) starts singing the song from the radio to austin tipping him off to the fact that something isnt quite right. That part still gives me chills when i think about it.

I think it was brilliant. I really enjoyed the movie and I really admire the work of this director. I almost watched all of his work and I think the exorcism of Emily is highly underrated and overlooked.

Im so glad you did this movie! I never clicked on a video so fast

I'd really like to hear Ryan's thoughts on 2016's The Void. It's no masterpiece but Lord, did they go all-in on a tiny budget.

My biggest problem with this movie is that nothing was answered. when I mentioned that to my family, they berated me that not all movies should spoon-feed you the answers to everything and that some things are better left as a mystery. But here's the thing. I really don't feel like there are any answers in this movie. I never got the feeling that I missed something or that I would be able to figure out more if I watched it a few times. I really feel like the movie itself is a dead end, which really sucks since there is a lot in the movie to be invested in.

Yay! The video I’ve been waiting for! Thank you for covering this one.

Can't watch this just yet, but I'm leaving a comment for the algorithm

I felt the exact same after watching The Dark and the Wicked and Red Dot. Endings that provoke instead of attempting some form of catharsis waste a lot of a movie's good qualities.

You pump these videos out so fast I never get tired of them. as always great content, Ryan

I always appreciate your analysis, Ryan, because you challenge me to scrutinize, yet still appreciate some of my favorite horror films. 🖤 Would love to see your in-depth revue of Evil Dead (2013).

You just posted this but I know this video was gonna be fire so I already liked it lmao

You articulated my feelings towards this film quite nicely. I loved the first half with the actual autopsy; having the father and son slowly discover the anomalies with Jane's external and internal condition was unnerving and extremely effective. But then that second half kicked in and yeah the scares weren't effective and pretty predictable.

i know its been 3 years since this video came out but i have to say thank you for actually reviewing the movie and not just summarizing it like most movie reviews channels i've seen. i find your insights to be well articulated as well.

Man, that was a hell of an intro dude, great work as always. Thank you for the awesome content!

The Hunt is definitely a video I would love to see your take on

Ryan: *uploads* Me: *click*

This one was a hidden gem... I can get behind your criticisms but overall in my endless search for horror movies these days with any kind of originality that are actually creepy. This one held my attention from the get go and managed to be sufficiently spooky. Plus the setting and concept overall is super unique. I don't know how it took this long for haunted morgue autopsy to be a setting.

Thanks to this channel I've heard about movies I'd have never otherwise gotten to check out. Love it.

I actually liked the ending. It brought everything to a close. You end up not really hating Jane Doe. But understanding her. Then you get the whole father sacrifices himself for his son story, which is cool. And it brings it to a close with Emile dying, because who wants to go on living having murdered their gf, witnessing all that supernatural crap, father, gf and cat dead, and not wanting to continue the family business. He had nothing left, except 2 life sentences for double murder. Solid ending.

@AnomalyINC

3 жыл бұрын

I'd argue that you can understand her, while still hating her. It depends a bit on information that is never clearly revealed. I see three possibilities: 1. She was innocent, and she became what she is as a result of the injustice carried out on her, making her more of a revenant than a witch. I see this as the least likely one, while being the most sympathetic. Not justifiable, as she takes it out on innocents, but blind rage is, if nothing else, relatable. 2. She was used as a vessel to bind an evil spirit, as suggested by the symbols on the inside of her skin. It could be suggested that the presence of this spiritual entity is what tore her insides to shreds as it couldn't pass the warded skin. In this scenario, she is not a "she" at all, but an "it" trapped in the dead body of a woman, trying to free itself. I see this as more likely than the first theory, but there are some plot elements that speak against this. 3. The most likely scenario, as I see it, offers very little in the way of sympathy. While her death must have been gruesome, she was indeed proven to be a witch with no qualms about hurting the innocent, and that the grotesque ritualistic murder of the woman was the only way to stop her. If this is how the character is intended, then I do have a problem with it, as "lol evil" is rarely a solid motivation for a serious horror story. Even then, I did enjoy this movie, as everything around Jane Doe is very well-crafted.

@certifiedredditgenius

7 ай бұрын

Exactly. At the end of the day, it might not have followed every English Narrative rule about the plot but it scared and entertained the audience which is what it set out to do. The scene where the father realizes that she's alive and suddenly has sympathy for what is all intents and purposes a dead body is great. The ending where the detective finds the "corpse" healed, the bodies still away is great. It means that they essentially went through an illusion that ended in 3 deaths and took place in one of the most terrifying settings imaginable. The subtle terror of the main antagonist not moving despite everything is honestly very enjoyable. So while the true horror fans might find this one a bit bland, me and my friends being casual horror fans very much enjoyed it, ending and all. I didn't find the ending cheap, to me it seemed the obvious way for the film to end.

I’ve been slowly making my way through your back catalog. I’m can’t tell you how many mental debates/conversation I’ve had with myself after one of your analyses. I have two suggestions for movies to cover: Coherence (2013) and Frailty (2001). Both are unconventional horror but stuck under my skin.

I love how well you articulate your thoughts on movies. Everything you say about movies I have seen I agree with wholeheartedly but it’s so hard to put my opinions into words and you do that so well man

Thank you for the extra video!

In case those of you are interested in the film, I want to say upfront that there's a cat in that lives with the father and son, and it gets injured from the demon (?) and the father has to break its neck to end its suffering. I wasn't expecting it and it did take me out of the film for a bit, so in case you guys avoid animal deaths in film or just need a warning beforehand (I find that finding out beforehand helps, so yeah) EDIT: I know Ryan mentions the cat in the video, but I still wanted to have this in the comments just in case xD This was a really good film, and honestly it was because of this film that I had some high hopes for Scary Stories (since they're both done by the same director); he's really good with atmosphere and storytelling, but with Scary Stories, I felt like while the atmosphere was there in places, it wasn't throughout (and speaking of, I definitely liked Ryan's analysis of Scary Stories).

@merchantfan

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I hate when horror movies do that. I think The Shape of Water and Stranger Things were one of the worst because there were super graphic about showing the dead cat and the characters didn't really react like their beloved pet had been killed. Weirdly, my cat *loved* watching the cat murder scene in Hemlock Grove. Maybe the cat noises were actually saying "I'm hunting!" or "I love this guy!" or something else fun

@gerardwfreak

3 жыл бұрын

@@merchantfan I'm really glad that I wasn't aware of the cat death in The Shape of Water (my mom and I watched it in theaters when it came out, and we loved it), and it definitely caught me off guard; I'm glad though that they show that he quickly learns to become more friendly with the cats. Also, thank you for mentioning Stranger Things; it's on the list, but thank you for letting me know ahead of time! And yeah, I wish horror films would stop doing that!

@Xero_Kaiser

5 ай бұрын

@@gerardwfreak So murder and torture doesn't bother you unless a cat is involved? That sounds pretty stupid.

I really liked your covering of this film and especially your talk about the use/misuse of the Salem witch trial connection. I’m not sure if you play video games but recently a game called ‘little hope’ used the aspect of the miss- information and blame as the emotional story background brilliantly. If your looking for what they try and failed it here I’d vouch that little hope delivers.

I'm so excited!! Thank you for covering this movie, keep up the outstanding work you glorious bastard!!!

Excellent analysis. You’ve wonderfully put into words so many of my thoughts about this movie & so much of modern horror. It’s so frustrating to see so many movies with great elements and ideas that just can’t help from becoming trite & silly through the use of tropes & jump scares.

I think you nailed it The themes were so strong that the story demanded an emotional catharsis still love the movie though

I swear it's the background music you choose that freaks me out most of the time 😂

This is definitely one of my favorite films ever. It’s so unsettling with great suspense. I was very intrigued with Jane Doe’s past life and all.

I love your videos because I love Horror, but I'm a super weenie who gets scared easily. Watching your reviews lets me see these great (or really bad) movies and still be able to sleep at night. And your thoughts on cinematic psychology are very insightful, so much so that I usually end up thinking about I approach things that scare me. Keep up the great work!

This was exactly how I felt after the ending. They've been setting it up the whole movie long; she was brutally tortured and murdered as a witch and now seeks revenge. And after the father sacrificed himself and Jane got revenge, the whole plot was completed. I just don't understand why they decided to make her a stereotype by 'she is just evil'. And after the father's sacrifice she also had to kill the son, and in the ambulance we she see she looks for her next victim.... like come on, give closure. We don't need the 'she is still out there' for it to be scary. It was a great film until they betrayed what they promised

@pondypoo

Жыл бұрын

She killed the son because the son killed the dad, thus breaking the dad’s pact to Jane.

So she continuously kills those who get near to her... even if they mean no ill will. Sounds almost worse than a witch. Funny how the Ryan seems to exonerate her by saying “bad things happened to her character.... therefore the venue is justified”. How many does she get to kill when it’s no longer justified?

@BarryHart-xo1oy

5 ай бұрын

Excellent question.

This is the first time I come across your chanel and I absolutely agree with everything you said! So glad I found your content!

loving the streams, keep up the good work :D

You keep reminding me of movies from my past I need to watch again. I found a movie called Shallow Grave with Ewan McGregor and Christian Eccleston playing randomly on T.V. Last night. Might be worth a look?

@TheLadyDelirium

3 жыл бұрын

I've not seen that since I was a teenager. I remember it being good but my memory is not always to be trusted.

@commandercat10

3 жыл бұрын

What’s it about

@redcoatray1784

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheLadyDelirium yeah I remember seeing it in my early teens, I don’t remember it being scary at all, I realise my memory isn’t to be trusted either, especially as I only caught it half way through and couldn’t finish it.

@redcoatray1784

3 жыл бұрын

@@commandercat10 3 roommates take on a 4th, they find him dead in his room with a trunk full of cash. They choose to take the money and hide the body in order to keep it, paranoia ensues.

@commandercat10

3 жыл бұрын

@@redcoatray1784 neat

Really liked the shout out to Deliver Us From Evil. Don't know why, but I've always had a soft spot for that movie

@evacasey4932

3 жыл бұрын

U live in Washington?

The fact that we actually go through the process of the autopsy and peice together the mystery, brilliant Its like I could watch the discussion of the cast from 12 angry men over and over again 5:23 you know its bad when you need to censor a little girl bathing

I never really liked this film since I saw it, but when so many people were saying it was amazing I couldn't understand why I didn't like it. These were exactly my issues with it, it feels so good to hear my thoughts so articulately expressed when I couldn't even figure them out before. Honestly I'm bored with pessimism for pessimisms sake, "more angry than empty" is exactly how I felt.

Finally, a movie I’ve actually seen before seeing you recommend it! I really liked the idea behind this movie and the twists it puts on the formula, but I think it falls into the cliches all over again towards the end and should have stuck more with “dealing with the aftermath of a stereotypical evil cult plot without actually seeing it”. I liked the idea of a horror movie happening prior to these events and them having to piece it together, but the awful cliches and nihilistic ending ruined it.

I 100% agree with the whole “nasty end for the sake of a nasty end” frustration. Also when you mentioned (redacted) was murdered in such a way I was completely like “yup any theme this was going for is just dressed up Nihilism”

I love these types of movies but you’re absolutely right, the moment the focus shifts from the real world mystery over to the supernatural the story starts to lose me.

I was just complaining to myself that I felt like youtube was not sending me enough Ryan recommendations, and then here you are! lol