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@UltraGamma25

Жыл бұрын

Thank you

Thanks for not dragging this out for a half hour.... I like getting right to the point.

@HacksbyDad

Жыл бұрын

LOL You're welcome!

@ehss192

Жыл бұрын

Agree. Everything we needed or wanted to know in 3 minutes.

@lebojay

Жыл бұрын

You guys weren’t interested in the history of threads, locking compounds, and putting things on other things?

@savage6394

Жыл бұрын

@@lebojaylol. Depends on the day or mood I'm in.

@lawrencebarnes6893

Жыл бұрын

@@HacksbyDad what if you read and followed the directions, and used the primer that Loctite recommends for Red Loctite?

I would like to see a similar test under vibration conditions. Hang a known weight from each sample & subject the bar to the same vibration then compare time to break free for each. Loctite is primarily designed to protect against vibration & temperature related expansion & contraction effects, not so much for static rotational loading.

@PH-md8xp

Жыл бұрын

Exactly

@reubenmorris487

Жыл бұрын

This is only supposed to be a simple demonstration. I liked the video and what was presented.

@Exploder11

Жыл бұрын

Good idea. The fact that both loctite nuts require a high maintained torque for removal implies they will do far better under vibration than the non-loctite nuts. It's worth testing.

@whatisahandle221

Жыл бұрын

When they had training wheels, my kids’ bikes’ wheels used to fall off all the time-usually at least twice on a ride to and from the nearby park. After realizing that my work used loftier to prevent just this on our products, I used regular Elmer’s glue on the nuts & bolts. The training wheels never fell off again!

@Craft97pl

Жыл бұрын

but if you have to eventually remove screw from weak materials like plastic blue loctice is the only way to go. Red is just too strong and plastic crumble :)

Thank you for the comparison in a short video. It was bullet point, accurate and didn't make me fall asleep. Props!

@HacksbyDad

2 жыл бұрын

LOL… thanks! I really appreciate the feedback. 😎

Wow..! best demo I've seen. Short and concise. EXCELLENT!

subscribed simply because he is to the point and gets the info quickly, thanks

Straight to the point, no nonsense yapping, thanks for sharing.

Best video short and sweet! Thank you kind sir! 🙏

I was not looking for anything like this video. It just showed up on my front page. However, I’m liking and commenting because you didn’t drag this out and it was informative. Good video and straight to the point.

@HacksbyDad

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Appreciate it!

I always felt like the red was used for breaking strength and the blue helps with backout strength so a screw wouldn't walk out from vibration. That's how I use the red and blue in the rc hobby. Red if I don't want it to move at all and blue if I just need to make sure the screw doesn't fall out if it does break loose.

@HacksbyDad

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah... that's common. For small screws/bolts red is pretty much permanent where the heads will strip or break when trying to remove. 😎

@gregeoryl

Жыл бұрын

The story is in the specifications. Everyone is aware of the breaking strength, but loctite spec sheets tell you that the size of the broken blue particles are quite large, while red turns to powder. Blue provides resistance the whole way off

@deathninja16

Жыл бұрын

​@@gregeoryldepends on where it was applied and how long it sat on the bolt. Eventually they all turn to powder.

@raucousindignation5811

Жыл бұрын

I concur. My usage exactly.

@rralmerk2900

Жыл бұрын

Take the green one

Perfect. Easy and understanding. That's all I wanted to know. Thanks

Short and to the point, excellent video!!

The point of Loctite is to keep the nut from backing off, not to keep it from being able to be undone. If you don't want the nut to ever move, weld it.

@Coolcarting

Жыл бұрын

That's not what locktight claims. On their website they say, Loctite Threadlocker Red 271 is a permanent solution for locking and sealing threaded fasteners and is only removable once cured by heating up parts to 500°F (260°C).

@martybadboy

Жыл бұрын

🤦

@danfirestone6539

Жыл бұрын

@@Coolcarting Facts, we use 277 at work and if the holes are cleaned and prep'd properly the studs we set are basically impossible to remove without heat

@lessanderfer7195

Жыл бұрын

@@Coolcarting Only the Red uses the word "permanent", and some of the products must be Heat Cured. "Our range of threadlocker strengths include: LOCTITE® 222 - A low-strength purple threadlocker. Works on all metals and is especially good for applications that may require disassembly. LOCTITE® 243 - A medium-strength blue threadlocker that offers a good general-purpose solution to seal and secure assemblies. LOCTITE® 263 - A high-strength red threadlocker designed for permanent locking and sealing of threaded fasteners. LOCTITE® 248 - The same performance as LOCTITE® 243 but in stick form, this is a blue, medium-strength threadlocking adhesive that works on all metals. LOCTITE® 268 - A high-strength threadlocker stick suitable for applications requiring a stronger bond, though needs heating to 480°F (250°C) for disassembly" I reached out to the company and asked them their take on this subject, and I will post it to your Reply and on the main thread when they respond.

@LVVideoGuy

Жыл бұрын

I use Locktite 638... and same thing.. you have to BURN it out!!!

Thank you, you answered a question I have had for several years now.

I love how you covered all the variables. Nice one Dad =)

@HacksbyDad

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I appreciate the feedback. 😎

Great video! Exactly the info I was search for!

@HacksbyDad

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! I appreciate the feedback. 😎

Was a great reinstatement for the hand-loosening afterwards. Blue was easy to remove but enough to stop rattling off id suppose. Thanks for the video

@HacksbyDad

2 жыл бұрын

You’re welcome. Thanks for the feedback. 😎

Plain and simple explanation, yet very informative. Thanks.

@HacksbyDad

9 ай бұрын

👍😎

Very thoughtfully done. Thank you!

@HacksbyDad

2 жыл бұрын

You’re welcome! Thank you for the feedback. 😎

Finally some one who doesn't drag on and on. Thanks!

Excellent work! Thank you for the info!

@HacksbyDad

2 жыл бұрын

You’re welcome! I’m planning to test Permatex thread lockers soon. Stay tuned… 😎

Thank you. This is exactly what I was looking for!

@HacksbyDad

Жыл бұрын

👍😎

Loved it. Thanks. Never really knew exactly how much different the two were. //ji

Nice and to the point. Thanks for the video

Thanks for this great Video 😊

Best well compiled video, straight to the point without the extra bs

@HacksbyDad

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Appreciate it!

There's nothing like the scientific method. Excellent video.

Very good and detailed test. Thanks.

@HacksbyDad

Жыл бұрын

You're welcome and thanks for the feedback. 😎

Cool vid!Short and to the point gets my subscription!

@HacksbyDad

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Thanks, that was very useful.

Nice job. Thank you.

concise and to the point 👍

Excellent presentation! Good job! 👍

@HacksbyDad

Жыл бұрын

Thanks… again! 😎

Great stuff!

Good info. Succinct. Well done.

really interesting video , no blabla, just fact, very good

@HacksbyDad

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! 😎

Big Thank You 👏👏

Right to the point! Very interesting video! Thanks!

@HacksbyDad

Жыл бұрын

👍😎

that is nice experiment! thanks

@HacksbyDad

5 ай бұрын

👍😎

Im subscribing because you got right to the point. No 11 min video with a 2 min intro.

@HacksbyDad

Жыл бұрын

LOL… thanks! 😎

Excellent job my friend very nice testing

@HacksbyDad

11 ай бұрын

Thanks!

Thanks for not wasting our time with a 20 minute video.

Theory, Simple is the best. This video makes me be your subscriber.

@HacksbyDad

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

On tiny fasteners, M3/M4 on my RC cars back in the day, blue was more than enough! In that case, it was more for stopping stuff from spinning loose due to vibration.

That you for providing this video demonstration.

@HacksbyDad

2 жыл бұрын

You’re welcome. I have an idea on how to possibly do a vibration test. Stay tuned… 😎

Good info

What a much more pleasant test than those conducted by Project Farm. No shouting. No unnecessary repeating. No resulting headache. Good job.

@HacksbyDad

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! 😎

well done --- Thank you

Great video, as determined by the usefulness of the comments!!!

@HacksbyDad

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

solved an old question for me. Thanks! This also shows the resistance of Loctite to backing off once loosened.

@HacksbyDad

3 ай бұрын

You’re welcome! 👍😎

Good test. I've ridden Harleys for the past 35 years, and I put blue Loctite on EVERYTHING to keep everything together with all the vibration my bikes put out. It does the job. I use red on things that I don't have any intention of removing like sissybar sideplates, and accessory mounts.

@joeKisonue

Жыл бұрын

Yeah Harley should come with a gallon

@MrTPF1

Жыл бұрын

@@joeKisonue 😂

Thanks!

Thanks. good test.

@HacksbyDad

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback... much appreciated! 😎

Excellent scientific method

@HacksbyDad

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Appreciate the feedback! 😎

Well done. Thanks.

@HacksbyDad

Ай бұрын

👍😎

Nice video , you know how to do it , make more.

Really good

Great video

@HacksbyDad

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! 😎

They are made for two different applications blue for retaining a bolt or nut from vibration and made to be removed with regular tooling the red is for locking application and heat is needed to brake the bond to remove if you clean the matting surfaces they work as intended .

@becuasegoodreason

Жыл бұрын

i was come for write these. You was explained better than i think

I like the simplicity of this test as it's a real life application.

@HacksbyDad

Жыл бұрын

👍

I saw a video the other day about red loctite. Supposedly the instructions state you are supposed to use an activation spray with it for fasteners without active metal, which is a good number of fastners like zinc coated.

The best “please like” I’ve seen 😀

Very good video. It surprises me to see the blue loctite is not that strong compared to a plain bolt. However, it must do something. Grettings from Madrid, Spain!

@bovellois

Жыл бұрын

It just stops nuts or bolts from backing out.

While interesting-You MISS the point of Loctite-it is to prevent vibration movement-like a nyloc nut-not to resist tool useage.

Parabéns pelo conteúdo Eu aprendi muito Continente assim

Can I use blue loctite on a bottom bracket? In case mine loosens again with only a few drops. I think I used a BB cup with a few stripped threads which came loose over time so I'd like to buy a new BB and put a few drops in case it loosens.

I've always used the blue loctite on bolts. The reason is simply because I view it as being the "nylock nut" of the bolt world. 😊

@safffff1000

Жыл бұрын

I learned from this too always use Red,

@Bobo-ox7fj

Жыл бұрын

I just use nylocs on everything 😇

@tarnand6376

Жыл бұрын

Precisely.

the high strength one is usually heat resistant, there are also medium strength thread lockers with medium heat resistance or sealing properties

@HacksbyDad

2 жыл бұрын

Heat resistance? Hmmmm… I just might do a video about that. Thanks! 😎

I looked up how lock tight is made and how it works. Very interesting check it out.

We use red loctite but always wondered how affective it really is. Interesting.

Great job. Thank you.

@HacksbyDad

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

thanks.

Everyone likes to think the red loctite is "permanent-forever-welded-torches to get it off" but in reality it only requires a bit more torque to break it free. Rust will always cause more problems and realistically loctite prevents rust so it probably makes most bolts easier to remove over time in the North.

@HacksbyDad

2 жыл бұрын

👍

@dogeyanimates2130

2 жыл бұрын

Although in my case, red lock tite on very small screw will strip if you force it, I have to use brake cleaner to dissolve it.

@hhn2002

Жыл бұрын

Excellent point

@jeremierichardson3113

Жыл бұрын

You may be right in some circumstances but try to undo a shallow flathead screw that has a few drops of 263 red loctite on it... have tried a few times myself out of curiosity without any luck haha. When I eventually need to get it free I will just weld a nut to it but have fun with the “right” tool for the job.

@ramenisbombman

Жыл бұрын

You say that but I've stripped bolts from the top that had red loctite because I didn't use break cleaner lol

Did you clean the nuts and studs with an evaporative solvent before applying the loctite?

i wonder if we reduce the amount of red applied, could it achieve the same result as blue?

If you don't remove the plating from the thread I believe you will need to use Loctite primer before you apply Loctite for optimal break-away torque values. Try using cleaned uncoated fasteners and repeat the test see if the results change.

@AverageFox7

Жыл бұрын

If I have to remove the plating to make it work I might as well weld it at that point

Is is possible to remove LOCTITE 242 residue from painted surface? I used Loctite 242 for the screws to attach black painted bar ends weights to the handlebars of my motorcycle. Unfortunately, I had some Loctite residue on my hands during assembly, which left some ugly fingerprints on the shiny black paint of the new bar end weights. Is it possible to remove the loctite residue from the bar end weights somehow without damaging the paint? Maybe with chemicals, heat or buffing?

I am going to the shop now, I believe this gentleman has my torque wrench! My Son's laugh at my old beam style torque wrench, probably the only reason I have kept it this long.

@bradyt7857

Жыл бұрын

Your sons may laugh, but a click-type is only as good as it's last calibration. In beam-style, the accuracy is built into the metallurgy of the wrench itself. Yep, I also own the TR featured in the video!

@brokendad2222

Жыл бұрын

@@bradyt7857 There are a couple of things they will most likely keep when I am done with them, that torque wrench is one of them.

I use a lot of thread locker Purple. First, it excludes water so the fastener does not rust internally on the threads. Secondly, it helps prevent vibration from loosening the fastener. Third, I can get the fastener, especially small screws, apart later. A heat gun facilitates removal, especially of all grades of threadlocker.

@flat-earther

Жыл бұрын

hi arncital have you become a flat earther yet? If not I suggest watch a 13 part series called _What on earth happened_ by Ewaranon to learn that the earth is not a globe. I got it in my about tab.

There’s loads of different loctite , that’s why they represented by a number. It has to do with application also . I’ve had specs to follow that you use 3 dots( when you squeeze the bottle a droplet falls ) up a thread to a line up ( you squeeze a line and it remains a line , not bladdered everywhere) the thread. One application we use a line on thread on a highly flex frame and a bolt under high stress . We torqued up to 30lb and breaking it is 90Lb-120lb . If we fit to less it’s comes free or seizes in place due to moisture , apply to much then the only way to crack it is using loads of heat ( not what you want on a highly flexible frame ) . The right application you can usually find in manufacturers assembly/service guides

@HacksbyDad

2 ай бұрын

👍😎

what is that measuring device? and how is it working??

Nice.

Last night i was taking apart my 2x72 belt grinder and i had used red 271 loctite on all the fasteners (mostly 5/16-18 stainless (18-8) hex bolts and nuts. The first nut didn't want to budge when using a ratchet so i grabbed a 36" breaker bar and i was able to get it loose. Second nut was tough with the breaker and i ended up turning breaking the bolt right off. For the rest of them, i gave them a light torching and that made the rest of them simple. Based on your results, i wonder if you got some counterfeit loctite.

Blue for nuts/bolts to keep from vibrating/ working way loose. Red to REALLY lock them down in more permanent applications. Bare for your alternator adjustment! Nice & to the point.

I just broke loose some nuts on 5/16" stainless bolts and i had applied loctite 271 about 9 months ago on them and it was probably 3-4x the force you used to break yours loose. I had to really lean on my long ratchet.

@HacksbyDad

Жыл бұрын

Yeah… might have been the 24-hour cure time. When I get a chance, I’ll redo the test with a much longer cure time. Maybe at least a month. Thanks for sharing. 😎

Such is the reason Red Loctite Threadlocker is listed as "Permanent" by the manufacturer and less apt to vibrations, usable for gasoline and petroleum presence areas. Cure time is 5-15 minutes dependent on the material used; Steel, Brass, or Stainless Steel. The manufacture advertises a 3/8"-16 grade 5 bolt break-away at 6.25 to 18.75 ft. lbs. (in. lb. conversion) The use of "Primer" accelerates setting times; see manufacturer's specifications. In many cases, Loctite specifies the use of the red color, (dependent on product number for purpose of use) for larger gap areas. Please be aware that simply the color does not mean the application. In the automotive machine shop business, I use many Loctite products, always with the trust of proper function when using the proper "primer" before application. Thanks for your video posting.

I have to agree with others that the real benefit of any Loctite is to keep the fastener from rattling loose once it has come a little bit loose. I have a .22 cal handgun that had the front sight come loose every time I shot it. Finally I cleaned the threads in the barrel and the screw and reinstalled it with blue Loctite. It hasn't come loose again in 40 years. I use blue on fasteners in my large model airplanes. Just don't get it on plastic. It will embrittle plastic like servo output shafts and cause them to break.

@joeKisonue

Жыл бұрын

I use clear craft glue ( shoe glue) on many applications that are not torqued.

Nice video. I’m commenting to help out lol

@HacksbyDad

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Appreciate it! 😎

So, red can be loosened withou a blow torch and stuff?

Since others are saying theyve experienced more force needed to remove loxtite nuts, maybe get some nut amd bolts, put them in vinigar for a few days, brush off some of the flaky rust so then youll have a set of aged nuts and bolts, apply the loctite again and maybe let it sit a few days?? Also maybe do higher torque like 20 or 25ftlbs. Id love to see the results personally!

There is a slight flaw in your test -- if you are pulling vertical down on your scale, the actual lever arm length depends on the cosine of the angle. It would only be 1 ft when the wrench is horizontal. It gets shorter when the wrench is at an angle. If you were using the scale on the torque wrench (which is probably not super accurate but should be repeatable) angle won't matter.

@skie6282

Жыл бұрын

Your right, but the measurable difference is probably only around 1 ftlb, so to show a load difference between three sets of nuts while loosening them the same way, itll still show a difference. The numbers might be a little bit off but the fact of red vs blue vs no loctite having different stengths is shown.

@Lumber_Jack

Жыл бұрын

@@skie6282 At 30 degrees, about 1.5 ft-lb error when reading "11" and about 2 ft-lb error when reading "15", but I noticed the angles were not consistent through the test so it hampers any attempt at repeatability or statistics.

@superspecialty5169

Жыл бұрын

@@skie6282 Don’t forget about the coefficient of break away torque do to friction which was instructed to be 20%!

@joeKisonue

Жыл бұрын

A better test would utilize a digital torque wrench

Thank your for the video. To be honest i never liked threadlockers. They are just a simple "glue" and as any glue the surfaces must be absolutely clean in order to glue properly. and we men know that working with bolts and nuts is always going to be in a dirty environment covered by dirt and grease everywhere. Also the curing time is around 24 hours. Thats why i prefer split-washers, not need to clean, not need to wait.

When is a good time to use these?

The type of metal, thread pitch, and size make a huge difference.

Спасибо. Очень познавательно.

If those are stainless steel nuts and bolts won’t it take longer to cure? Loctite says stainless steel and zinc plated steel are considered inactive and will take longer time to cure.

In most uses it's just to prevent backing off of nuts or bolts, etc. The blue is for the ability to hold but still be able to back it off without damage. The red is to hold in more adverse conditions and be much harder to loosen and back off. I have had situations were red has been used and did not back off this easily. And yes, at times it did require me to heat it up. To say that this is not required is foolishness. I never use red unless I plan on basically never needing the nut or bolt to ever be loosened. Otherwise it's always blue. And all that is with or without lockwashers and such. Just another safety step. Specially on fasteners that could cause serious damage or injury.

Seems like blue is like a thread protector and also helps reduce the chance of a nut backing off. Red is to assist in holding the nut to the bolt.

This video is brilliant!

@HacksbyDad

Жыл бұрын

I don’t know about it being brilliant but thanks! LOl 😎

When I didn't have loctite I used any nail polish and it does the same.