It's criminal that this BTS has less than 1000 views. This edit was fantastic and will now become a staple in my LOTR marathons. Thank you and everyone on this project for all the hard work making such a fantastic edit!

@M4Studios

2 жыл бұрын

appreciate it! No worries about the views haha. Makes it more special when people stumble upon it i suppose

This is not only the best Hobbit fan edit I’ve seen, it lets the film sit comfortably next to LotR in quality. I acquired this based on a recommendation but still dreaded incorporating The Hobbit into my yearly LotR viewing. I’ve marveled at how much past fan edits improved The Hobbit, but it still felt like both a slog and a tragic reminder of how the films came out in the past. With your edit, it’s just…a good movie. I don’t even remember what the original was like and I barely think about it. I’m watching Fellowship now but itching to watch The Hobbit again, of all things. There is a joy to The Hobbit that feels tonally different, and there’s solid concise storytelling, a full-fledged adventure. It makes Frodo’s words that his own adventure turned out quite different resonate. At this point, I like The Hobbit more than The Two Towers, which, while a fantastic movie, is now the weakest in the saga. As someone who loves the book, I always hoped for that. Thanks for making this edit. The Hobbit finally takes its rightful place as a stand-alone masterpiece, a fun and exciting adventure that, with restraint and economy in storytelling, also complements Lord of the Rings if desired.

@M4Studios

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed I appreciate it!

@LordVader1094

4 ай бұрын

It's also, event-wise, 90% book accurate!

I just watched your fan edit of The Hobbit and all I can say is: thank you. You've rekindled my love for this story after the Jackson trilogy made me want to forget it existed. I rate the 3 LotR movies at around 9.5/10 and the theatrical Hobbit films at 5-6/10 at best. Your edit, however, elevates The Hobbit to a solid 8.5/10 at least. I thought I would never watch it again, but I had so much fun with your edit, I'm sure I'll revisit it in a few years.

With the Amazon show releasing, I've been feeling nostalgic and wanting to watch all of Jackson's extended cuts of Middle Earth in chronological order, but I was dreading getting through The Hobbit as the jumping off point. Thankfully, after scrolling through Reddit for a recommendation on fan edits, your work kept popping up. People spoke highly of it and I'm eager to check it out for myself. Thanks, man. Greatly appreciated.

@matthewmarchese

Жыл бұрын

And then experienced The Rings of Power and we remembered why we so cherish those who are faithful to Tolkien's works. Thank you so much, @M4 Studios!

Thank you so much for this fan edit. This is the version of the hobbit I wanted to see. You’ve struck the perfect balance of book accuracy while maintaining a solid flow and cohering to Jackson’s middle earth. Each transition is as smooth as possible which really helps maintain immersion. I watch it with my family and they hardly noticed how much was cut. Great work and thanks so much

@didle6

Жыл бұрын

Also the sound work is fantastic. I think the fact my family didn’t notice any of it just shows how seamless your editing is. Genius use of sound work

Just watched it myself recently, and my god, the pace of the experience became so great!!! Having only watched the original films on theaters, I remember dreading a rewatch knowing the amount of material that would make for a long, multi-sitdown watching experience with forced add-ons and side plots that take away from the world and the experience. Thank you so much. This truly elevates the material to a proper telling of the source material.

I just watched this edit with my mom who recently read the book. Neither of us have seen the full Hobbit trilogy. We both enjoyed this version a great deal and it really felt like a coherent movie. I can't even imagine the editing skill that went into making this. There were a few times towards the end of the movie where it felt a little incoherent. The scene where Thorin's group joined the battle andwent hunting for the orc leader had some confusing cuts and felt a bit rushed but I guess it can't be avoided entirely. Overall fantastic work and thank you for making it available!

Thank you. For years I’ve been bummed that the trilogy sucks because you can see how much love and care went into the sets, costumes, music and performances. It’s been painful to think about what could’ve been. So, thank you for finally giving us a version of the film that lives up to the work that went into it.

Having just got done watching your recut, I can safely say you've redeemed these movies. There always was the original heart of the story, but it was buried beneath padding and studio mandates. You've brought the best possible version of these films to the light: a fantastical adventure with the themes of home over gold. Give yourself a freaking round of applause--you've earned it.

I just watched your edit and rewatched it with your commentary. I really love it. Gonna be a part of my next anual LOTR rewatch. At first I found it a bit long but as you sad it's not meant as an theatrical Cut. As an extended version it workes really well and fits perfectly with the Extended trilogy.

@M4Studios

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, glad you enjoyed. Just like with LOTR, it's long enough where I like to watch it in two parts most of the time

Hi, I just wanted to say that I recently watched your edit with my mom and we both loved it very much! We went to the cinemas to watch the original trilogy way back when and even when I was only 9-11 years old I felt something was definetly off about it in comparison to LotR. Everything flows so seemlessly in your edit that it is barely noticable how much stuff has really been cut. And listening to your commentary I can know see how much work you've put into it, that is truly a commendable feat you've accomplished! And the whole Tolkien fandom is definetly thankful for your contribution. Me and my mom are not native English speakers though and there are no subs in our language, unfortunately, so I had to help her out with some words and phrases while we were watching. If I had enough time right now I would've tried making subs for it myself and perhaps I will sometime in the future, since I've had experience making translations and subtitles before. If I'll decide to do so, should I write to your e-mail adress given on your site?

@M4Studios

7 ай бұрын

thanks! glad you enjoyed and listened to commentary. if you make subtitles using the template then you can email me them

@YanatheJudasGoat

7 ай бұрын

@@M4Studios thank you for answering!

You sir. Are a genius and a gentleman! You deserve a medal.

Ifound out about your cut by accident (someone mentioned it in another hobbit video here), i am still downloading it and i hope it'll play fine on my tv. From what i've read in your blog and watched here, i'm glad that finally someone had the same dream as me. I will confirm it after i watch it, but my feeling is that you've made something amazing here. I really hope PJ will see that and smile with satisfaction. I will return with more comments after i watch it, but i'm sure that you've made a great work. Thank you so very much my friend! P.S: It's incredible that you also have subs in Greek. All other edits did not and thats the reason i didnt watch or download them. Highly appreciated this!!!!!

@Stargazer1974

Жыл бұрын

I HAD to come back and say a few things after i've watched it. Man, you've nailed it! THIS is the movie every single Tolkien fan must have in his movie collection, instead of the bullshit trilogy. The last two days i've rewatched the trilogy just to have a reminder and i've noticed a lot more cringe moments than i remember. Especially the third part (Battle of five armies) is a shitsow from start to finish. After i watched your cut, i feel that i saw a new beautiful movie that can stand next to the LOTR trilogy. Very profesional work in every level, i've really enjoyed it. Congratulations to you and all people involved. Your love and passion for a good outcome is everywhere. The only minor complaint is that i wanted the end credits to be as the last movie, with all the actors artwork, but i can live without it. The nice thing is that my 10 y.o niece saw in this Christmas break the LOTR trilogy for the first time and she's about to watch The Hobbit. I'm very glad that she will watch this cut. Once more, congratulations and thanks for bringing justice to one of my most favourite books!!

Hey, don't know if you'll see this , but me and my dad just watched your edit. It was excellent. Exactly what I wanted the Hobbit movie to be like! Great work!!

I was looking online to see if anyone had done a good fan edit of the hobbit trilogy into 1 movie, which edits the film to be book accurate. I found this to be the way I wanted to watch the hobbit movie when I first heard it announced. I think you nailed it. thanks for your hard work on this project!

I just finished watching this a few hours ago, and I love it so much. This really managed to make the Hobbit films satisfying, even exciting and downright emotional at times. It really slaps you in the face how good it could have been if they just removed all the unnecessary baggage, and this edit just does that in the most professional and seamless of ways. This is really quite close to an actual, undeniably great Hobbit film, only held back by the lack of scenes that Jackson and Co. didn't shoot (Like exploring more of the bond between Bilbo and the Dwarves, and adding more of the whimsical, charming and witty humor of the book that made it such a joy to read). Really, thank you so much for making this and all of the hard work that you put into it. I've seen the other edits, and this one just takes the cake for me. I can now wholeheartedly add the Hobbit to my yearly LoTR marathon, and I just want to express my appreciation to this and to you for making that possible! As a purist Tolkien fan, thank you so much!

Thank you M4 for your hard work. This is the first time I have watched The Hobbit all the way through. I had given up completely on the PJ overkill. It was unfortunate PJ had to live up to his own LOTR movies in his choices for The Hobbit. Beyond any editing skills, I am still disappointed in how PJ and his team changed the battle scenes different from the book I remember. Apparently CG artists today were raised on video games. With a click they can turn 100 troops into 10000 and make a wall of shields snap into place and make elves into robots. I think Tolkien would have been disgusted with these annoying details.

@M4Studios

4 ай бұрын

Yes you are quite right, the battle sequence at the end was very odd. I found the size of the Orc army to be ridiculously large compared to the amount of dwarves and men. Many of the cut parts were also completely insane, there was a whole sequence about a blind troll with peg-legs and an orc controlling him, and one of the Dwarves climbed on and took control. Legolas was also at Ravenhill in the originals, he grabbed onto a bat that flew him up there and then he fought Orcs on top of a bridge of stone, the stones started to fall apart and fall down, so he ran on top of falling stones to get avoid falling all the way down a cliff. So even with all my edits, I couldn’t fix everything it’s unfortunate because the battle in the book is actually pretty good. It’s nonsense when people say Tolkien skipped the whole battle in the book, when in reality Bilbo watched almost the whole thing and was only knocked out near the end.

This is amazing! I was really disappointed with The Hobbit films due to Jackson's excesses and inconsistent tone. I wanted to do something like this if I had the time, but what you've done is an above and beyond!

This is really good. You hit all the right points

Now we need 4k version of this masterpiece fanedit. I love it so much.

This is so great! And who knows... With all these advancements in AI you might look into revisiting this project at some point in the future...

I hope you realize that you’re a better film editor than a good chunk of editors actually working in Hollywood.

This edit it so damn good! I can finally enjoy Hobbit.

It’s a travesty they pulled this down, they should quietly release it as the “Tolkien cut” on streaming or something to salvage their reputation

Me and my friends watched this and it was so good.

Just watched the edit today. You managed to craft a solid film that can stand comfortably alongside the LotR trilogy - had me grinning like a loon at points, just enjoying the story and characters without all the extraneous adaptational guff. I'll never watch the Hobbit trilogy again, but I will be watching your edit again in a year or two when I next have a Tolkien marathon. Cheers

thankyou. so much better than the original cut. i hope peter jackson sees this and takes note hehe

Thank you I’m just sick of the destruction of the Tolkien lore and frankly Hobbit(lotr changed some characters and scenes, Glorfindel 😂, but still is awesome)movies started it, so as purist, I thank you.

Thank you for your hard work on this! i've watched several fan edits and yours is by far the best i've come across. it's still not 100% perfect, as in the way i'd personally hope all this was made, but that's too much to ask unless i did it myself, i think. which i don't enough talent for! 😅 so this is very much appreciated. ♥ it would be amazing if you ever tackled the Lord of the Rings trilogy as well. i've always wanted to love those movies, but there's just too much cringe that ruins the experience for me, what with Faramir (my favorite in the book!) and Frodo's character changes for the sake of drama, for example, the ones that most stand out.

Wow!!!!

Have you ever thought about editing The Lord of the Rings? I've been wondering how a M4 edit of LOTR would look like, specifically how would you tackle the ghost army?

@M4Studios

2 жыл бұрын

I would probably cut out the skeleton heads falling sequence and trim some of Gimli jokes (but not entirely remove them say, maybe just have Gimli "blow" once at the ghosts lol before cutting away), and then once the ghosts arrive maybe I could edit it in such a way to remove that one key shot where it shows the ghosts just wiping out the entire orc army in minas tirith to play it off as though the ghosts were just a "helping aid" and not "they destroyed everyone"

Hey, I wanted to say that I love your edit. For real, that must have been a lot of work, and I think that many fans are very grateful for your attempt to salvage the Hobbit. I am also sure, that there are many more fans to come and enjoy it in the future - I for one found it only just now and immediately sent it to my friends. Also, if you don't mind, I might have some suggestions, that could give you new options in your editing. Did you consider AI, for separating music, speech, and sound effects from the original soundtrack? As far as I know, it doesn't always work perfectly but it gives a lot of possibilities for further improvement. With good editing skills, which you certainly have, it would be possible, to make all the transitions flawless. Thanks again for all your work!

@M4Studios

11 ай бұрын

Hey! Thank you. I did consider AI but when I made the cut it probably wasn't as developed. It was only used for helping fix Thorin's wounds in the new vfx shot. Personally, I found 5.1 audio manipulation and manually adding new sound effects to be enough. Maybe one or two spots I wish I could fully remove music but oh well. I'll always keep the project files

Ok. I’m decided to watch your version. I don’t know what a torrent or a mirror or a git-hub is. How does a technology disadvantaged person such as myself get some copies if these? I don’t own a dvd player nor a computer with cd slots. Can I upload them to a thumb drive? P. S. I hate Alfred Lickspittle with all my heart, so I’m glad to read you have mostly removed him.

@user-hn9fr7mn3x

Жыл бұрын

Or even better, can I stream it on my smart tv? The thumb drive would limit me to sitting at my computer desk to watch it.

@M4Studios

Жыл бұрын

Hey, to download just scroll down to the bottom of the website. The blue text buttons you can click and will bring you to the download, github is just hosting my website. A mirror is an exact copy of another download link, so if the first Main Download link is not working, you can try to use the Mirror. You do not need to torrent but a torrent is a special method of downloading. It’s just an extra option if you want to Once you have the movie file downloaded, you can do whatever you want with it Im sure you can find a way to stream it or Airplay it to your TV. The 720p 8gb version will download the fastest, you’ll just have an MP4 on your computer and you can do whatever you want with it (could plug your computer or laptop into your TV with HDMI even)

@user-hn9fr7mn3x

Жыл бұрын

@@M4Studios ok thanks, I will try to figure it out

My favorite edit by far. I am curious - do you ever plan to do a 4k version of your edit?

@M4Studios

2 жыл бұрын

thanks! And not right now no plans currently

@wowjack8944

2 жыл бұрын

@@M4Studios Where can this edit be watched?

@M4Studios

2 жыл бұрын

@Wow Jack Check bottom of the description!

@wowjack8944

2 жыл бұрын

@@M4Studios Yea, i found it. Why is the 1080 version with commentary and the 720p without?

@M4Studios

2 жыл бұрын

@@wowjack8944 Check the README file in the same folder. The 1080p version has normal audio too, Google Drive just defaults to the audio commentary unless you download it. 720p has no commentary because it's supposed to be the smallest filesize

This version of The Hobbit is much better! I recently convinced my reluctant grandmother to read the book, and she loved it! I am trying to get her to read LOTR, but she is convinced that it is too complicated and too much of a commitment, so I am trying to ease her in to this series with the hobbit. Now after reading the book she wants to watch the films with me, but I am worried that she will find them too long and not like the book, in which case she will probably never read LOTR or at least watch the films. But I am certain that she will like this version of The Hobbit, so thank you! Also, since she doesn't speak english, do you need to do something else other than installing the .iso files on the disc to get swedish subtitles?

@M4Studios

6 ай бұрын

Thanks! Swedish subtitles are included in the MKV just click the subtitle menu. and can also be downloaded separately for the MP4

@zachariasadamsson6903

6 ай бұрын

@@M4Studios Great! Thanks!

Can you edit Rings of Power into one 30 minutes long episode?

Thank you so much for your efforts Can I download the bonus scenes separately?

Great job! How did you export the final cut in mkv format?

@M4Studios

Жыл бұрын

hey! so i exported an DNxHR video track and then converted that to two separate h264 video tracks for 720p and 1080p and then i used MkvToolNix to combine that 1080p video, audio tracks, and subtitles to one MKV file. But you could skip the middle man and export as an MP4 then convert it right to an MKV with that same program

I was wondering if we could see how the gold from Smaug breaking out of Erebor was removed, I've been working with the 4K version of the film and can't figure out how to work around that

Just watched with a friend and it was pretty good. Cutting all the fluff out really focuses the narrative on the quest and the Bilbo/Thorin/Dwarves relationship; much much better. One thing I would have done differently is I would have kept the orc chase sequence between the Trolls and Rivendell, for a few reasons: - It helps setting up the idea that they're being chased by orcs so it's less jarring when they just pop up after the Goblin Town sequence - without it, the ponies just disappear right after the Troll sequence - and saving the ponies was the entire point of that sequence. - right before the Troll sequence, Thorin says he never wants to go to Rivendell. without the orc chase forcing them to go there, it just looks like Thorin was totally bamboozled by Gandalf, and never thought to ask where they were going.

@M4Studios

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, glad you enjoyed! Well my goal was to edit the films to follow the book so there was no chance I was gonna keep more orc chasing, but I get what you mean. I actually liked that scene a lot so it’s included as a deleted scene on the ISO! it’s never going to be perfect I agree, but is it *plausible*, these are my 2 replies: -Where are the ponies when the dwarves are being tied up and held captive? They clearly ran away as they aren’t in the background, so that’s why I can forgive this - My one question, is it plausible gandalf would guide them into a passage towards rivendell without telling them? I think you’re proposing that thorins character would’ve turned the company around and gone around rivendell in this moment, but that’s because you’re relying on the original context where he was forced to enter by Orcs. You just gotta forget that and go with the flow

Only thing I don't like about the cut are the intermissions.

@M4Studios

Жыл бұрын

The edit was designed around the blu-ray release which has 2 discs (like lotr extended editions) so I always recommend that as the best viewing experience, as it feels more realistic

@earthsoundsuk

Жыл бұрын

i love intermissions and wish they would bring them back!

@nutbastard

Жыл бұрын

@@earthsoundsuk Seriously. It's not like I have a catheter to hook up. I'd rather the editor pick a good time for a pee break than try to guess when to pause.

@M4Studios I have downloaded the 720p version from your site, i put it on my usb and plugged into tv but during the first gollum scene with Bilbo, the video stops and restarts itself... i was soo looking forward to watching it and dont really want to watch on laptop... be so grateful if you could advise me what i can do about this!?

@M4Studios

Жыл бұрын

Hi, I can at least assure you that the video file you downloaded is fine there is no corruption, at the very least you could plug your laptop into your TV through HDMI if it has an HDMI port, that's how I would watch fan edits, just take the HDMI out from something else you're not using and temporarily use it for your laptop. For the USB, it's possible your USB was overheating or lagging so the video was having trouble playing, or the video was not fully copied over from your computer, and lastly it's possible your USB needs to be formatted for your TV. All you have to do is right click it and click Format, you could try switching to NTFS and FAT32.

This is a great version. How can I convert the MKV to MP4, with minimal cost, to play on my older Samsung tv?

@M4Studios

Жыл бұрын

I would play it on your TV with a laptop/HDMI any format would work. But to convert the MKV you should remux it and not re-encode it, here's a tutorial for a program to use kzread.info/dash/bejne/dGiGmNCGcq6XptI.html it's actually really quick because it's just copy-pasting the video into an MP4 container. The only issue is the audio, I don't think DTS-HD works in MP4 so you just want to copy over the AC3 audio track which does work

@frankburger1021

Жыл бұрын

@@M4Studios Thanks for the quick reply! I was going to play it from the laptop but I will give this method a try. I am looking forward to sharing your excellent adaptation with my sons.

is there any way to watch the - Blu-ray ISOs [35-40 GB per disc] - without having to download it. i mean i don't exactly have a nasa super computer i could'nt even download the 25 gb version and i'm definitly not watching it in 720p

@M4Studios

Жыл бұрын

There isnt, its a disc file so it cant be streamed but it doesnt exactly take a nasa super computer to download these files. I think it might be worth it to upgrade your system if you dont have any free space, you could buy a 1 terabyte drive for like 30 bucks which can fit 1,000 GB

Can you please send me link to watch it?? Thanks

Really love the edit but I noticed an issue in the Troll scene, the way a line is cut does make sense. The troll says 'Everything tastes like chicken...what tastes like fish' Nothing too major and nothing I'd expect you to go back and change, just a missing 3 words

@M4Studios

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! But I don’t quite understand, he’s complaining about the taste being boring, and then he’s wondering what fish tastes like. What words are missing? He’s a troll so his grammar is a bit silly

@adamantiumpandas701

Жыл бұрын

Sorry I could've made it clearer. Fan Edit Troll 1: Everything tastes like chicken...what tastes like fish Original Troll 1: Everything tastes like chicken Troll 2: Except the chicken Troll 1: What tastes like fish The 'except the chicken' line is missing from the middle

@M4Studios

Жыл бұрын

@Adamantium Pandas Yeah I cut that on purpose, I didn’t like the joke. Now William is just rambling about meat, I interpret his line as “what meat tastes like fish”, trolls aren’t the smartest. But if you disagree I respect it, just my view

@adamantiumpandas701

Жыл бұрын

@@M4Studios Oh my bad, I haven't listened to the commentary so I guess that went over my head. Sorry I didn't mean to criticise, you've done really great work here. My favourite edit is the cut to the dwarves when Smaug bursts out of Erebor, it's such an ingenious idea

@M4Studios

Жыл бұрын

@@adamantiumpandas701 Oh no worries man it’s completely fine to leave feedback 👌Sometimes people can be a little rude about it but you were totally cool, I just like to discuss. Everyone’s got a different opinion! And thank you again glad you enjoyed

Where can I watch this edit movie?

@M4Studios

10 ай бұрын

Hey , theres downloads at the bottom of my site m4-studios.github.io/hobbitbookedit/

I'm working in an edit where Gollum throws Sam off the cliff, but I wish there was a way to have gollum look down the cliff to see if sam wakes up. The sequence where he says 'very dangerous on the stairs' while looking down at the hobbits has the perfect angle, but you see sam and frodo climbing. Do you have any idea of how hard it would be to remove them and have sam lying unconscious for that shot? It's this shot at the 35 second mark: kzread.info/dash/bejne/mKl8lbt6lJaYcps.html

How do I make the blu ray cover for this fanedit of yours?

@M4Studios

Жыл бұрын

In the google drive all the art files are uploaded, you basically have to save the one you want and print it out at the correct size, which is a standard 2-disc blu-ray case (the ones where a disc is on the left and the right). You can do a couple test prints in black/white with rough draft settings to make sure you have the size right before you do the high quality color print.

@pasalasaga

Жыл бұрын

@@M4Studios I have the google Drive for a long time, you even give It to me when the website was closed on Reddit (I have deleted my account) But a normal paper isn't what you use on a blu Ray cover. So this part is hard. Also the fact that I need to download the movies on a virgin blu ray disc wich I can't right now. But atleast I have more knowledge on the disc part.

@pasalasaga

Жыл бұрын

ps: also the google drive doesn't work anymore, atleast the digital versions.

@M4Studios

Жыл бұрын

@@pasalasaga The google drive does work, you just have to wait for the Quota to disappear. It's because there's too much traffic. Honestly, I used normal paper on my version and it looks good so don't worry, just make sure you can get a good quality print with colored ink that's the main thing

@pasalasaga

Жыл бұрын

@@M4Studios well Thanks, and What about the disc. How am I supposed to glue a paper on a disc?

the only thing I dont like about this great edit is the film grain