That experimental tiger stripe uniform was bad ass

@StevenTheAristolianNerd

5 жыл бұрын

I think it should have been chosen.

@Tyler.O

5 жыл бұрын

I wish we had went with that ...

@zackscott903

4 жыл бұрын

Agree

@Seth9809

4 жыл бұрын

What was it named?

@ryanschweikhardt

4 жыл бұрын

Voting in the Military. Soooo rare.....

Members of the USMC are called "Marines", not "Corpsmen". "Corpsman" is a USN enlisted Medical Technician, who may, or may not, be assigned to the USMC

@adrianfirewalker4183

5 жыл бұрын

I should know, I was a "Corpsman" attached to the "Marines".

@aidanotero3126

5 жыл бұрын

I know! Who the fuck doesn't know that?

@kah10161

5 жыл бұрын

Adrian Firewalker Devil Doc! 👍🏼

@alexiel4406

5 жыл бұрын

@Adrian Firewalker I got to ack doc, what did you do more hand out Motrin or give the silver bullet?

@TristenTheArgonian

5 жыл бұрын

I perfer the term "CorpsPerson"

MARPAT is clearly the best looking camo out of all the branches

@OG420grandmaster

6 ай бұрын

True da army should’ve kept da ucp digital but just changed da color to their own personal design

1:57 DOD: So what kinda camouflage do you guys want? Marines: Something easily recognizable, so we are seen from a mile away. DOD: * Hands box of crayons *

@bruh5361

5 жыл бұрын

I hope they told the marines that they can't eat the crayons

@JKHGAMING

5 жыл бұрын

@@bruh5361 to late

@billysbasement4498

4 жыл бұрын

*hands over multicam*

@treygregory7929

4 жыл бұрын

That really was funny. A trained PAO said the Marines wanted people to see their new Camouflage pattern from a mile away. Wow.

@1337penguinman

4 жыл бұрын

In the ultimate irony, this is exactly what the Army developed.

As a Former Marine, I still think the copyrighting of MARPAT was dumb. It should have been made available to all the services. The silliness of each service wasting money for unique patterns is insane...how much training would that money have facilitated??

@Sodapopper100

5 жыл бұрын

Eh who knows, but thanks for your service dude

@jarink1

5 жыл бұрын

I agree wholeheartedly, but I doubt the lack of a copyright would have stopped the other services from wanting to develop their own vanity patterns.

@bollywig7871

5 жыл бұрын

To say nothing of the increased risk for confusion in combat. They are called "uniforms" for a reason after all. Marine here as well...and former 03.

@suspicioususer

5 жыл бұрын

The Marines have this complex that makes them think they need to be more special then everyone else

@stevejobs101

5 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Since adopting MARPAT, look at all the camo pattern switching. Army and Navy have both gone through two patterns EACH. Air Force had to get their own pattern in there too. During the days of woodland everybody got the same uniform and nobody complained.

I voted on the"tiger stripe" in 2000... everyone I knew voted the same... You can vote, but if we dont like the vote we will change the vote...

@laggymclaggylag5882

5 жыл бұрын

Welcome to the US military where the rules are made up and the opinions of the enlisted don't matter.

@treygregory7929

4 жыл бұрын

Laggy McLaggylag Well, that also doesn’t mean everyone actually did vote tiger stripe. That’s just anecdotal evidence. A ton of people could have voted for what won. Maybe we hear the from the guys who voted for tiger stripes more because they didn’t get their way? And the other voters just moved on? The tiger stripes look cool in an 80s action movie kind of way. But I do think they actually went with the better uniform. And even if everyone did vote tiger stripe, crowd sourcing opinions isn’t always the best way to go (see who we elect to Congress, and the Yeet Cannon, for proof of that). A little food for thought: during the last election I had a couple friends who probably would have literally bet their house that Hilary was going to win. Why? They lived in Manhattan. They lived in a bubble. They actually said “I don’t know a single person who is voting for Trump. Hillary is going to win in a landslide.” Clearly that didn’t happen right? It’s fallacious to assume the rest of the Marines thought the same way as the OP and the Marines in the OP’s sphere. Just like it’s fallacious to attribute some sort of malicious motives to the higher ups just because they went with another pattern. Maybe they received more info that didn’t favor tiger stripes? Maybe the votes from the Marines was one aspect of a multi-tiered approach to pick? Maybe they knew the Air Force were going to go with Tiger Stripes and they ran like hell. I don’t know. I’m just glad we didn’t go with them.

@1337penguinman

4 жыл бұрын

Or we'll just throw out the testing results because of contractor kickbacks. *Cough* OCP *Cough*

@treygregory7929

4 жыл бұрын

1337penguinman I have zero doubt contractor kickbacks have played a big role in many situations like this (see the Marines’ MTV and how that was purchased). But with Marpat, I really think they decided that was the best choice. It’s a good uniform. The only one of all the early GWOT patterns still in use. Clearly it’s doing something right. But I also think they had their minds made up about that digital pattern for some reason. Before the tests started that is. Kind of like how I think they were going with some HK416 variant for their new rifle regardless of if they held a competition (which they didn’t.) I think there’s a decent chance that KAC, FNH, or SIG, LMT, LWRC, and a few others could have provided some very stiff completion for HK. But the Marines (and probably the whole DOD) have this bizarre HK fetish. The HK was going to win. They probably looked at that Canadian pattern, decided they wanted it, and made it happen.

@kdog2757

4 жыл бұрын

What’s the difference between MARPAT and MCCUU?

As someone who was issued Marpat, I will attest to the effectiveness of the green Marpat cammies. They work fantastically in woodland environments. Marines really blend into the woods when wearing them. If you're not paying attention, you might not notice a Marine standing 5 feet away from you in front of some brush. Desert Marpat is nice, but you're not really blending into much when you're patrolling the streets of Anbar provine Iraq. The Army's equivelant grey ACU pattern had the color of gravel and didn't blend into anything. It's good they finally ditched it.

I'm glad i'm not the only person with a weird facination of camos from the US and other nations.

@lockedon8953

4 жыл бұрын

I always have! But lately it's been over the US Army's new IFV program

@jona5517

6 күн бұрын

Same here. I’ve always like the German Flecktarn and the Vietnamese Tiger Stripe.

3:20 lol Canada does their military uniform testing in a hockey rink.

@JoshuaKimbrough

4 жыл бұрын

Hahaha we gotta do ours on baseball fields now

@LNMarls

4 жыл бұрын

Hahahaha that's amazing and so typically Canadian.. all that is missing is a DD from Timmies

@nickv8728

4 жыл бұрын

That's because they recently added hockey fighting to the CAF defendu combatives

Dear Marines: You're welcome. Best regards, Canada.

Hey, just wanted to point ot a small mistake you made. You referred to all Marines as Corpsman, that term specifically refers to Navy enlisted personell who perform a roll similar to that of an Army Medic

@tdnavy1066

5 жыл бұрын

Ok so i did hear him say corpsman over and over lol.

@compelledpluto

5 жыл бұрын

I think he was thinking because there are from the corps they’re corpsmen but when it’s just simply marines lol I thought I was going crazy hearing all those corpsmen

@alexiel4406

5 жыл бұрын

I was like “why would they issue the uniform to be tested to only the Corpsman? So they can just lay around all day and give Marines Motrin?”

@clayp7454

5 жыл бұрын

Oh man, please stop calling Marines corpsman. I’d rather chew tin foil than hear that again. Rah...

@secmydom

5 жыл бұрын

Marines. Not Corpsman. Wow. This was the first time I have ever heard this mistake. .... let alone repeated so many times by a military-related channel.

It's kind of ironic to say "we want them to see us coming a mile away" in camouflage uniforms.

@kolinmartz

4 жыл бұрын

That’s what we call marine intelligence.

@1337penguinman

4 жыл бұрын

@@kolinmartz I hear in Marine OCS they actually issue you 2 rocks instead of just one, so you can beat them together instead of against your skull as enlisted Marines are taught to do.

@kolinmartz

4 жыл бұрын

1337penguinman you’re spilling state secrets. Shhhhh

@LockheedC-130HerculesOfficial

3 жыл бұрын

@@1337penguinman yea, you actually got 2 sticks and a rock for the whole platoon

I was a Navy Corpsman. Marines are Marines, not Corpsmen. Cool video. I remember when Marpat came out. I ran the woodland camo until the deadline. IIRC, they gave us a couple years to change over completely. The boots got these issued, but we had to buy our own to be in uniform which kind of sucks for the lower enlisted.

" we want them to be able to see us coming a mile away in our new uniforms....."- this is about camouflage, right ??

@EfrainSuarezII

5 жыл бұрын

No it’s about esprit de corp.

@TristenTheArgonian

5 жыл бұрын

"Its the Marines open fire"

@richardmaxwell4923

4 жыл бұрын

'Least it works unlike it's Army counterpart.

@airrussia9878

4 жыл бұрын

it's supposed to mean that if you saw them you would know they were Marines so you would treat them with more respect than the coast guard lol

I really like that dual tech (?) pattern from 1977. In 2004 I had marpat gear before a lot of the Marines had it. I'm not bragging. That's just what a specific Marine said to me on trying. I still have it. It's been through hell and back. Those first runs were made well.

"We wanted to be instantly recognized." Pink tutus will do that.

@michaellyndon6982

4 жыл бұрын

Breaking news!!! The marines chain of command has decided to equip every soldier with a boombox that plays the phrase, "We are the marines" this is supposedly to make said troops instantly recognizable to the enemy. For more on this story, we go to Wolf Blitzer, Wolf Wolf Blitzer: Yes, my name is Wolf Blitzer, I know it's weird for a Jewish man to have a name that Neo-Nazis would probably choose at birth if they could, but that's what it is, and I'm proud of it. Back to you, Oscar Heinrich Panzernazi.

CO: “tell us which one you think is best?” Corpsman running the trial: “tiger stripe” CO: “Who asked you?”

@low-budgefudge2164

3 жыл бұрын

Marines, not corpsman

@MarioTheLiopleurodon

3 жыл бұрын

We're Marines, not Corpsmen. Corpsmen are Navy medics that get assigned to marine units... as medics.

A) This channel is really underrated. Great content and great narration! B) The USMC MARPAT is, by far, the best in the Armed Forces. The digital camo patten, and color palette, is not only highly effective, it’s aesthetically pleasing. Yeah - that’s important. I’m currently in the process of commissioning as a USMC Officer (aviator) from Harvard. Very pleased and excited to see this in-depth and thorough review. Was not pleased with the USAF’s attempt at their debuted OCP. The Marines also have the best dress blues - period. Not surprised to see them nail their combat uniform, as well.

@jamesmitchell3496

5 жыл бұрын

SO PRETTY THEY LOOK LIKE WOMEN WHEN THEY WEAR THEM

@KhoaNguyen.08

5 жыл бұрын

@James, you misspelled “sharp.” But that’s okay. We knew what you meant.

@kdog2757

4 жыл бұрын

What’s the difference between MARPAT and MCCUU?

@atfjacknz

9 ай бұрын

​@@kdog2757I know it's been three years, but MCCUU is the uniform, MARPAT is the patern.

This channel needs attention

Still got the best uniforms.

"We want to be seen a mile away" isnt that the complete opposite of what camouflage is supposed to be used for

@15vertigo

5 жыл бұрын

It was a metaphor. They just wanted people to be able to tell them apart from the rest of the US Military without getting in their faces to look for anchors. A bit of an intimidation tactic... and Marines being Marines, lol. They take huge pride in being who they are.

@suspicioususer

5 жыл бұрын

@@15vertigo I just find the idea of the enemy squinting just to see what camo pattern they have and saying "oh shit, they have 3 extra weeks of training, run away!!"

@15vertigo

5 жыл бұрын

@@suspicioususer As I said - Marines are gonna Marine, lol

@gonuts4donuts

4 жыл бұрын

The easily recognizable uniform is more to play into their reputation. Marines have always been known for being highly aggressive and tenacious warriors around the world for well over 100 years now. They wanted to be recognized so that their reputation would instantly come to mind, not just merely "oh shit, they have three more weeks of training." It's something that elite groups of soldiers from around the world have always done and remain to do

So the Marine Corps was the frist branch to turn the camouflage uniform to a fashion show.

@eazy8579

4 жыл бұрын

Hey, at least theirs worked

@nightflyer3242

4 жыл бұрын

The Marine Corps has always been a fashion show.

@SearchEast2069

4 жыл бұрын

@@nightflyer3242 So true. The only reason they adopted the M45 a few years ago was because they wanted to be the cool branch with the fancy 1911's, but honestly im here for it.

We are not called "corpmen". We are Marines. Thank you. Cool video

@licktin1091

5 жыл бұрын

OldMan Skinner he was probably talking about actual corpmen. You know, since they’re blue and green side, they have to wear a bunch of uniforms.

@kdog2757

4 жыл бұрын

Does anyone know the difference between MARPAT and MCCUU?

@Superbrandonw99

4 жыл бұрын

Marine Corps1775 MARPAT = Marine Pattern, MCCUU = Marine Corps Combat Utility Uniform

@MarioTheLiopleurodon

3 жыл бұрын

@@kdog2757 MCCUU is the Marine Corps Camouflage Utility Uniform, MARPAT is the camo pattern. So I'd be wearing an MCCUU, one that comes in MARPAT (woodland or desert). I wear cammies that come in the MARPAT design.

Not gonna lie, I'd love to wear the MarPat! They look amazing and from what I can tell their effectiveness is amazing as well!

Damn I wish we would've adopted the tiger one

@Masta_E

5 жыл бұрын

Looked so cool.

@ThaOneChrisJONES

4 жыл бұрын

@@Masta_E Do you want to "look cool" or for the camo to work and keep you alive ?

Oh man i'm so glad i found this channel. I love camo patterns and i collect uniforms !

Really enjoyed your video! Thank you so much for sharing and posting, very informative. Semper Fi!

Lol i love it, command asks what uniform they liked. Command listened and then classically went the opposite direction

@065Tim

5 жыл бұрын

Its to keep you aggressive. Nobody needs a happy watchdog.

@iSPELLinAMERICAN

5 жыл бұрын

@@065Tim lol fr right

Telling me they had a badass Tigerstripe pattern in the works, and EVEN HAD IT PROTOTYPED, makes it even worse that it was never chosen as the standard camo of any of the two ground forces focused branches.

In boot camp I was in the last batch that got the pre-digital cammies. I remember all the sergeants thinking the pattern was decent, but utterly despising with fierce disgust the velcro.

Marine Corps: We wanted a new camo to stand out from other branches Others: Oh cool, see that's why the Marine Corps is better. Air Force: We wanted a new camo to stand out from the other branches Others: Ugh, look at the Chair Force wasting money on useless stuff again, don't they know what the camouflage is not supposed to stand out?

@TristenTheArgonian

5 жыл бұрын

It's because the Marines had a good pattern, the Air Forces camo was Garbo. UCP worked better

@inkedseahear

5 жыл бұрын

@@TristenTheArgonian I know, it's just that in other places that discuss camo patterns the Air Force gets flak for having the idea of a camo pattern the distinguish themselves from the others.

@midcash

5 жыл бұрын

Its more because what they came out with was total shit Marines made a better uniform at a fraction of the cost

@G1NZOU

4 жыл бұрын

At least MARPAT actually has woodland colours for woodland and desert colours for desert, with the Army they took the colours from one of the worst performing camo patterns in testing, and slapped it on the MARPAT pattern swatch, and called it a day, rushed a frankenpattern into service with little to no testing just to make the US Military look modern and futuristic, and the Air Force and Navy followed suit. My only criticism of MARPAT is the desert version just uses a desert recolour of the woodland pattern, whereas the basis for MARPAT, CADPAT, used a different and more improved pattern for it's desert version because of scientific test results showing a more open pattern worked for the statistically longer viewing distances in desert environments. Also the fact the USMC uses solid colour vests as a cost saving measure.

@jon8207

2 жыл бұрын

Yes.

Another excellent video, thanks! Subscribed!

4:27 mind you, coreman is thearines version of a medic. (who is actually a sailor) the designation for a member of the USMC is just marines

Rhodesian brushstroke is an awesome pattern.

Great again man !

That pixel Tiger Vietnam jungle pattern is cool!

Thanks for this. I use both Marpat and the Tiger stripe in airsoft and they work well in NW Florida boonies.

@bob6770

4 жыл бұрын

Airsoft Ghost you use the woodland tiger stripe like in the video??

It is true that the USMC got permission to use CADPAT as a base for recolour, but they asked permission and didn't steal it. Desert MARPAT is very close to the trial versions of Desert CADPAT as a recolour of CADPAT TW, however the Canadians, who had already done a ton of R&D to develop CADPAT TW found out that with the longer average engagement distances in arid environments, a recalculation of the algorithms was necessary and slightly more open, vertically oriented pattern worked better, the result was CADPAT AR, the USMC only had rights to use the base pattern of CADPAT TW and therefore used two recolourations for their two MARPAT versions, with Coyote Brown being the unifying colour between them. This is a good example of copying, taking what works and applying the right recolour to match the expected environments, same reason why Japan's recolour of Flecktarn works so well. A bad example of copying is the Army's UCP, they only wanted to look cool and futuristic so chose the worst performing camo in their Natick trials, slapped the bad colours onto the CADPAT design and rushed it out.

Don't call us Corpsman, Corpsman are in the Navy

@Riceball01

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, his use of Corpsman was confusing. At first I thought he was referring specifically to Navy Corpsman which I thought was interesting, and the more he said Corpsman I was thinking, why did the Corps have Corpsmen do so much of the testing. It wasn't until the end that I realized that by Corpsmen he didn't mean Navy medics but Marines.

@pilotpig_

5 жыл бұрын

I saw some navy guys wearing marpat a month ago. why is that?

@isaachousley325

5 жыл бұрын

@@pilotpig_ they were most likely "green side" corpmen. Since the Marine Corps doesn't have its own medical personnel, the navy hospital corp provides medical care for both the navy and Marine corps, with green side reffering to the corpmen who are attached to USMC units, and blue side referring to corpmen who serve care for the navy personell. Green side corpmen are authorized to were marpat as they are immbedded with Marine units and therefore have to look the part.

@Phoenix_OP

5 жыл бұрын

Al least he didn't call US Marines "Soldier" which is a more common problem.

@tommyseabee2176

5 жыл бұрын

I was going to comment on that if no one else had. Slightly better than Corpsman being called corpse men by POTUS.

Qué buen canal para los que nos interesa los uniformes y patrones de camuflaje, siga así

Ayyyy, caught the shout out to Guy Cramer. A great mind.

These videos are absolutely fascinating. It's amazing how much stupid bureaucratic garbage goes into camouflage. We were authorized to wear desert marpat in summer, and woodland in winter. Then marines were told we can't roll sleeves anymore. Then the commandant reversed that decision. But NOW the commandant says ONLY woodland camo on base, (despite the fact I was stationed in a desert) with desert pattern being reserved for deployment and field excercises. So many irrelevant decisions making enlisted marines lives tedious and confusing.

Im glad you guys used my pictures of the experimental desert and temperate MARPAT , but would like to correct you the color in the desert that was removed was blue not black , thanks

Good vid. First I ever heard that Rhodesian brush stroke was considered. Imagine how that would have looked...

Marpat is an identical pattern borrowed from cadpat. They changed colours, added a little usmc logo and printed it. The shapes are all the same. Compare lightest green in cadpat to darkest colour in marpat

Really enjoying all these videos ! My only complaint is the audio level is very low on all of them

The fun thing being that the design leader Timothy O'neill was in the Army for 25 years.

I was one of the Marines that got the opportunity to vote for which pattern to use. I selected the Tiger Stripes. To this day it's still my favorite.

@bob6770

4 жыл бұрын

russell28533 you know where you could buy the fabric?

3:30 haha if this is true it's so petty. Marine Corp: "No we didn't copy Canada!" Also the Marine Corp: "Hey Pentagon can you guys get us some CADPAT?"

To me MARPAT looks like a digitized variant of Flecktarn.

Would have liked to see more of the updated Tiger Stripe pattern.

The reason the headquarters Marine Corps went with the digital instead of tiger stripe was the ease with which they could copyright the Marpat digital. Even though a wide majority of marines favored the tiger stripe variant.

You should do a video on the coast guard ODU. It’s not really camp, but it would be interesting no doubt

So. I live in a temperate woodland. I always wondered why everyone was into wearing coyote brown gear when it ruins their camoflauge. That was until I saw it on Woodland Marpat. Where it didn't completely ruin the camoflauge and sctuslly complimented it. And it works decently with their desert camo as well. And your telling me this was done on purpose? I am blown away by how smart that idea was and it really gives me more respect for the Marines as they not only made a functional digital pattern (looking at you, UCP) but specifically trying to avoid a desert storm situation where you see soldiers in desert cammies wearing woodland gear. Guess all those crayons they eat made them color aware.

Excellent idea, wear all white camo but green helmet in the snow

a few mistakes but other than that you're done your homework some of it I didn't know myself and retired Master Gunnery Sergeant USMC thanks again for your support of our armed forces

Nice video I like that

EVERYONE and I do mean EVERYONE that took part in the online survey with a 9:1 ratio picked the tiger stripe overwhelmingly. But CMC chose MarPat. And that’s what we got. Opened a can of worms in the process.

Urban MARPAT and Tiger stripe were🔥

The original boots, before the current coyote brown, were marpat as well. The pattern wore off on the toes and heels and was soon scrapped. I remember the survey on mol and i didnt choose marpat. It looked completely different. It looked way too green. Rumor has it that a gunny in a sniper platoon in pendleton had a watchband that was basically coyote brown but was actually a ralph Lauren color. Another thing they left out in this video is the knee and elbow pad inserts that go into pockets inside of the uniform. We were issued them and nobody used them. Talking to the marines on base now, nobody knows about the pads or why the pockets are inside

Marines would then officially cammie when I join in 09 we had both woodland and desert. What love about the Woodlands is that tapered close your waist which if you where's skinny guy like me look great.

That was great, thanks man! #OohRah

The soviets had a digital pattern in the 1950s. You can see it on the soldier in the movie Ivan’s Childhood

" we want them to be able to see us coming a mile away in our new uniforms" The Marines should've adopted the ACU in that case...

So many memories. Jesus I think I still have boots somewhere.

Haha go Canada. My parents were born and raised there but I was born in Philadelphia and raised in Texas. I would love to serve either country!

Can you do the history of the protective combat uniform?

The idea of being seen a mile away goes back to Somalia, it’s not the Camouflage pattern not working, but standing out from other branches. With Somalia the Army had already started switching to the tricolor deserts and wore tan boots. The USMC was still issued the chocolate chips and wore black boots. At the beginning the Somalis would not mess with the Marines 1 ROEs were different and the snipers would take that out and the Marines got their nickname the black boots. That’s the idea of having camo that can be seen a mile away so the Marine Corps could be easily identifiable when put with US Army Soldiers and USAF personnel. Personally I think the Army and Marines should be allowed to run with their patterns. With the Army the herder multi cam because that ACU uniform was a train wreck. Standard sailors have no need for camo uniforms just like airmen and definitely shouldn’t have their own pattern. SEALs and small boat/landing craft personnel should have camo. If you work on a ship you should be wearing the blue shirt and boondockers. Air Force if you aren’t a JTAC or a PJ you should probably be wearing coveralls and be on a flight line. That blue blue digital uniform the Navy came up is ridiculous. They are now moving to the USMC style uniform just off on the colors and has USN in the design instead of USMC. To make a long story short the Air Force and Navy never should have come with their own camouflage.

the tigerstripe is badass

As a future marine I cant wait to wear this uniform, and represent my country. Also this is a very interesting topic and you're doing a great job man, keep it up.

@ventofficial6932

5 жыл бұрын

Same

@JuliusCheeser223

5 жыл бұрын

Good luck friend!

@Amadeus-ni3et

5 жыл бұрын

Good luck my dude.

The MARPAT ( USMC Utilities) and the ACU ( US Army UCP and OCP MultiCam Uniforms) look good, they really and truly do, but, I Am Prior Service USMC and US Army ( 1987-1998), and, I Am partial to the M-81 BDU in both Woodland Camouflage Pattern and Desert Camouflage Pattern.🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🦅🗽🔫

Now if only I could get video on the US Navy type 3 pattern, AKA Guacs/tactical avocado.

1:55 So is the camo supposed to make you seamless or stand out?

Hi! I know that it is impossible to cover everything and your videos are MUCH appreciated. Surely the Russian digital camo of the 1980's must have had something to do with something. As well what is your take on a square pattern camo if squares do not happen often in nature? My buddy said it is there to messup digital night vision equipment.

I have a pair of their trial pants it has a elastic waistband on it and there's no pocket below-the-knee it even still has the soldiers name tag still Stitch below the waistband above the rear pocket on it

Seems like every time they do trials to find out which uniform is the most effective and favored by troops the higher up leadership vetos it for the "prettier option".

MARPAT, the only camo that was a worthy replacement for M81 Woodland.

@MarioTheLiopleurodon

3 жыл бұрын

Marpat comes in woodland and dessert, but there's always some salty ass lcpl, gunny, or range personnel rocking the MARPAT "grassland" pattern. What is "grassland" you may ask. When a salty ass devil spends a bit too long in the sun while wearing woodlands and the color fades to the point where they almost look like ACUs. It's not as pale as desert, but not as dark as a fresh woodland blouse, hence why it's "grassland" because it's somewhere in-between the two

@normalplayer7377

3 жыл бұрын

@@MarioTheLiopleurodon Interesting

Simple request, can you make a video on the History of the Marine Corps 8 point cover? As a Marine, I don't know the history of it. I assume it was design to look like an older hat design and probably issued sometime around WW2?

You said that Cadpat was first digital camo to be issued on large scale, but t the same time Soviet border guards (around 200k men strong) were issued with digital camo uniforms from around 1982-1983

@DavidYoung-je8mf

4 жыл бұрын

Was it based on fractals?

@G1NZOU

4 жыл бұрын

I assume you're talking about KLMK, that's not truly digital, that's just step design. CADPAT, which MARPAT is based on is entirely computer generated according to algorithms, just having a vaguely pixel like look doesn't mean a pattern is digital.

The idea of needing to distinguish between the branches is pointless, however the Marine Corps (& I’m an Airman) was the only branch that came up with a “digital” camo that was effective in both woodland and desert environments. The army, Air Force and Navy’s respective digital uniforms were in a word terrible. My experience extends to the USAF’s ABU and aside from blending in with a dirty aircraft the uniform was useless with the only advantage over the old BDU / DCU was its not having to be ironed, other than that it was heavy, thick and was very good at retaining heat, all things you don’t want when deploying to the desert. It was universally hated, cost millions to develop and was recently ditched in favor of multi-cam

6:34 Dude's magazine on the left

@eazy8579

4 жыл бұрын

Nice

@LNMarls

4 жыл бұрын

@Rusty Shackleford Hahaha that is amazing!!

Good information provided here, my only thought is with the Air Force and Navy........what are they trying to blend into exactly?

Military: What camo you want. Everyone: Tiger stripe. Military: Okay, we will remember to disappoint you.

Corpsman???? That refers to Navy enlisted medical personnel. We're not Corpsman....We're Marines. Please say Marines.

@oakpineranch

5 жыл бұрын

Why are you repeating the same thing that people have said before you? You guys not gonna change the video for this one small mishap

Does anyone know which division has the black and white Pilgrim insignia shown at 1:34? Thanks in advance! Great video and very informative!

Why it have to be pixels? Is it easier to make? There are not many sharp shapes in nature. I know it blends from distance but wouldnt some original tiger stripes style patern make it better?

Corpsman are Naval medical personal. The common term for MARPAT is “digi” since it’s a digital pattern.

@oakpineranch

5 жыл бұрын

And if you care to look at other comments for the past three or four weeks you will notice that people have already discussed this topic to death. Why keep bringing it up ?

“Hey can I copy your homework?” “Sure just change it a bit so it’s not so obvious” “ok”

I serve both and Marine Corps and the Army National Guard. I love these videos my question is can do video different service and country service uniform dress uniform and rare mess uniform?

Funny to me how one of the pictures of soldiers in DCU are from the unit I’m in 53rd IBCT lol

Please do an episode on Tiger Stripes

Great video but the voice audio is way too low.

PLEASE do Russian camo next! Surpat would be a good one to do next! My profile pic is the surpat pattern.

@jeffreymcfadden9403

5 жыл бұрын

to do russian camo would take 4-5-6 episodes.

It was not uncommon for sateen covers to be worn by some when I joined, though they were all but gone. Most uniforms were of a jungle pattern, held over from the Vietnam era.

Why don’t just make it into a reverse camouflage like the P42 uniform the corp used during WW2, I mean it’s easier

@1337penguinman

5 жыл бұрын

Pockets would be a major issue. Personally I like the WW2 German idea of combat smocks. You have a standard uniform and you issue smocks camouflaged for the specific terrain the unit will be fighting in. Plus, believe it or not, the loose fitting smock actually aids in breaking up a soldier or marine's outline.

@JKHGAMING

5 жыл бұрын

@@1337penguinman Not in the Corps yet but I don't think there allowed to use there pockets. I know there not allowed to put there hands in the at least

@captaindeadward9620

5 жыл бұрын

JKH GAMING I know you’re not supposed to put your hands in the trouser pockets but I think they’re talking about the blouse,sorry if I misunderstood what everyone is talking about

@kevanbaconofficial

5 жыл бұрын

I don't think pockets would be an issue, the blouse pockets aren't like old BDUs, they aren't really designed for a major load. The new web gear systems take care of all that. So a reversible uniform would be possible.

@jeffkardosjr.3825

5 жыл бұрын

@@1337penguinman Russia has many of those kind of uniforms too.

MARPAT - BEST Uniform in US Armed Forces !!!

I Am Prior Service USMC and US Army, and,I Myself didn't know about any of this Military History. Thanks Again for this education and edification on this Uniform History Information and Intelligence (I2).🇺🇸🗽🦅⚔️🔫

I was hoping for an explanation of the idea of digital camouflage. Why does it work? How was it developed?

It's ridiculous having different uniforms for different branches. It's like giving away free intel to the enemy. Makes it easier to track movement of individual units and to figure out who the softest target is, and which units to avoid.

Marines still use boot gaiters in cold weather conditions aka snow ops.