I know looks don’t matter and it’s more of how effective the camouflage actually is but I think it’s a very pleasing camo to look at

@Tounushi

Жыл бұрын

Kazakhstan has a brown-dominant UCP clone, so there's that.

@NicholasUmstead

Жыл бұрын

Same, it might not be effective camo at all but I think it looks neat

@hogmeet3942

Жыл бұрын

the standard UCP and to a lesser existent this one look pretty ugly in my opinion

@LockheedC-130HerculesOfficial

Жыл бұрын

​@@Tounushi marpat desert lol

@ShmuckCanuck

Жыл бұрын

That’s kind of the problem America thought it was just a cool look So tried to just.. copy it from cnada Who had spent like a decade designing that shit Mostly with computers and cameras nobody like.. designed cadpat by hand And then it took us years to make and finish the patterns for other terrain America just thoghhh it looked cool Made there own by like hand And then we’re confused when there’s didn’t work lol

Bro if that’s genuine issued UCP-D that’s pretty badass. That’s a pretty hard camo to find.

@MikeB128

Жыл бұрын

Sure is. Unissued with the tags. A friend also sent me the helmet cover.

@rooknado

Жыл бұрын

@@MikeB128 Now that is badass. Good friend, too!

@GenDrag1

Жыл бұрын

@@MikeB128 that’s a lot of Tabasco and cigarettes to trade for bro, v nice, a homie indeed

@oliverbruce6240

Жыл бұрын

It should be hard to find; its camo!

@DirtyGuerrilla

Жыл бұрын

Speaking of camo rarities, I just found a bunch of uniforms in AOR universal at my local surplus the other day. Would’ve taken some home but they were all huge

I had an E7 tell me once. "it works pretty good when it is dirty".

@gpatty6538

Жыл бұрын

That’s what they told me when I joined

@Ricossmft28

Жыл бұрын

It really does though, after a week of being in moondust desert conditions it blended perfectly

@logancurl9526

Жыл бұрын

Same here. I was told that if I ended up getting deployed to some combat area, don't wear new/newish or unstained uniforms outside the wire, because it makes you stand out like a sore thumb pretty much anywhere. But they also said that the same exact piece of kit/uniform with the ineffective regular UCP camo (that looks sort of like a faded teal green mixed with light grey when it's new, to my eyes) can surprisingly transform into a fairly effective and decent camo pattern after it has aged, been used/abused, if it has picked up a decent amount of staining from sweat, dirt, and other things. And it is surprising once you see some uniforms and kit that has gone thru the aging and staining process (especially if it occured naturally, thru regular wear and use) and compare it against anything new that is in UCP, because they pretty much look like completely different camo patterns/colors, and it does become fairly effective in a lot of cases, however that is usually around the same time that the item is nearly worn out and needing to be replaced lol. I had never heard of using coffee grounds to stain the UCP uniforms to be more effective, but it sounds like it would work, if done properly. I wish I had that knowledge back then, and I'm thinking about getting some of my old camo stuff out of the closet and possibly testing that out....i get curious about such things lol

I have a buddy online who does airsoft in an old construction site, he uses UCP-D and he's damn near invisible. Crazy how one color can change the effectiveness on a camo pattern

The General and Congressman with stock in textile: "It's like printing my own money".

@dvldog_

14 күн бұрын

Exactly, same with whoever makes all the dang blank rounds the Army wastes every day

My buddy's unit figured out how to fix the ACU pattern themselves without this early into the war on terror. They would wash their combat uniforms with coffee grounds and the color would stain them tan. They would have a pristine uniform to wear on days off or back home to avoid an ass chewing.

@baconking1160

Жыл бұрын

so exacatly what the british did in india to make khaki

@Jrez

Жыл бұрын

Roll around in the dirt for a few weeks in-country for the same effect.

@jonathanwright5550

Жыл бұрын

​@@Jrez I'd rather smell like coffee than local dog shit :p

@Jrez

Жыл бұрын

@@jonathanwright5550 different strokes

@jacksonsmiler8028

Жыл бұрын

​@@baconking1160 didn't the British use tea?

They should've went with that

@Xavkas90

Жыл бұрын

I know I would’ve liked my ACUs a lot more if they were that pattern. I was stoked when we finally got Multicam heading into Afghanistan.

@flyboymike111357

Жыл бұрын

Especially with all our enemies using multicam

@thebadlander3608

11 ай бұрын

Why? ACU sucks

@angryagain68

11 ай бұрын

@@thebadlander3608 I believe you mean: UCP: Universal Camo Pattern. ACU: Army Combat Uniform is the uniform "cut" or style. Replaced BDU's (Battle Dress Uniform) style uniforms that were mostly Woodland Camo.

@thebadlander3608

11 ай бұрын

@@angryagain68 ACU, UCP, they are used interchangeably. And I wasn’t talking about the uniform, I was talking about the camo.

"Reportedly worked better than regular UCP" That's a pretty low bar.

The problem with UCP was that it was too bright and I think UCP-D fixes that problem. But UCP was already circling the drain when the Delta variant came out and nothing could save it.

@1CE.

Жыл бұрын

The main issue is the similar coloring on top of a small pattern The human eye would just see smurf blue human silhouettes which defeats the whole purpose of camo to begin with

Every time he says hello there… “General Kenobi!”

@BeltFedSelfDefense

Жыл бұрын

You are a bold one!

I’m actually surprised that the us army didn’t attempt to make a digital version of multicam seen as they had such a hard on for digital camo patterns back in the 2000s

@_Shadow--Gaming_

10 ай бұрын

They just wanted to be like the Marine Corps.

My buddy came home in UCP once and sat down on his grandma's ugly couch. To this day we're still looking for him.

@asiangaming8409

Жыл бұрын

Lol

@jonathanwright5550

Жыл бұрын

Seen that picture with the helmet and boots hanging off that couch

@ghosthunter0404

Жыл бұрын

Only thing it blends into lol then again the digital pattern scrambles most cameras from long distance so you look like a blurred object on the ground

@faisalfarooqi9487

Жыл бұрын

😆

@JoeMama-sx4qz

10 ай бұрын

I remember that😂

Me: "Can we have MARPATS?" Mom: "We have MARPATS at home."

@dylanrutan100

11 ай бұрын

Almost looks like my original set of woodlands I kept around for far too long

@bryanjohnson6293

11 ай бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣

@hieug.rection1920

10 ай бұрын

USMC: NO! That’s my camouflage! It’s got a little EGA in it so you can’t have it! You don’t rate!

@Orbowitz

9 ай бұрын

​@@hieug.rection1920*Marine Corps looks at CADPAT nervously*

@death2641

4 ай бұрын

​@@Orbowitz Latin America's also copy USMC camo: yoink

Oh shit, the coolest US camo pattern

@epapa737

Жыл бұрын

Did you forget M81 and DNC exist?

@wockyslush3038

Жыл бұрын

@@epapa737 DNC is a close second, so close that I got a custom DNC parka lined with UCP-D. But M81 is just bland now, it's been ruined by fat larpers and boomers. It's only cool when it's on custom Cryes and Patagonia Level 9 uniforms.

@markyman420

Жыл бұрын

Three tone DCU or M81 are pretty good

@Val81121

Жыл бұрын

MARPAT?

@wockyslush3038

Жыл бұрын

@@Val81121 MARPAT is ok, AOR is cooler tho

When I was in Afghanistan, my unit relieved a unit of 82ND Airborne who were all wearing UCP Delta. I thought the uniforms looked a lot better but all their gear was still regular ACU.

I still wish we used the DCU Coffee Stains those were badass next to the Chocolate Chips

@aeoli4921

Жыл бұрын

Agreed.

@tachyon8317

Жыл бұрын

It's what I had at Taji in 2005. We were all fine with it

@davezanko9051

25 күн бұрын

Good for the naked eye, lights up like a Christmas tree under NIR. That's why they dropped them.

I think that would do a lot better in environments. Especially woodland.

@CMCSE

Жыл бұрын

Or red mud/Urban areas

True words “the guys in Iraq didn’t matter.” 😅

@MikeB128

Жыл бұрын

Yep, I was one of those guys when this was being tested. We were wearing our lovely UCP.

@1029db

Жыл бұрын

@@MikeB128 same, I put my UCP flame retardant (which seemed to hold stains better) into the the mud and dirt until it was un$ucked.

One time I laid down in a gravel pit with my feet in the sand. It was the only time my ACU's actually blended in.

UCP: Concrete, teal, other shades of concrete UCP-D: Concrete, teal, other shades of concrete, and dirt

Today I ran into the duality of gun show prices. I saw a yugo sks for $980 however I walked out with a 1903 M1892 bayonet + scabbard for $100.

@CyranofromBergerac

Жыл бұрын

I misunderstood that for a sec and thought you got a 1903 with the bayonet and scabbard for a hundred and wondered what was wrong with the gun for you to get one that cheap.

@partyrobbins4690

Жыл бұрын

@@CyranofromBergerac If I got a 1903 Springfield for $100 it definitely would be a wall hanger 😂

@slappy8941

Жыл бұрын

Gun show prices have always been ridiculous, but now they're just stupid.

@Seasniffer69

Жыл бұрын

​@@slappy8941 depends on the booth tbh. I seen a Glock 19x FDE for $500 flat in Dec of 22 at my local gunshow.

@calanon534

11 ай бұрын

@@Seasniffer69 I got a Ruger Security 9 for not-insane prices at Wannemacher's a few years ago. MSRP at the time was $450, I walked away with it at $460 plus a free box of 9mm.

Gotta admit, this version of UCP is quite nice on the eyes.

We had the BDUs and their generally effective woodland camouflage pattern....and today, after multiple stops along the way, we have a multicam derivative which is a lot like woodland camo but on a smaller scale, and the latest ultra hot weather lightweigh camo uniforms bring back the BDU's great buttons. So...we got it right in the 80s and should never have left it. Today's camo is a lot like BDUs.

Looks a lot like Flecktarn or Flaktarn camo pattern with the brown

The only saving grace for UCP was that the colors got sun bleached so hard and you really couldn't tell what the pattern was anymore.

Used that pattern in Iraq 2011. We called them 'FRACUS.' Fire Resistant ACUS. They were super thin and we had to go get them altered to reinforce the elbows, knees and groin area to handle going out in the field.

I am a USMC veteran of Iraq. I remember seeing my Army brothers in 2006-07 in OIF wearing that godawful grey UCP camo. Probably one of the dumbest gear ideas out there. The only good thing is once it gets filthy it looks like the local dirt. You know what I’m curious to learn about: the tan polypro thermals we got issued but couldn’t wear because when you got hit by an IED, if you lived, it melted to you.

@Seasniffer69

Жыл бұрын

We were all told to promptly throw them away as soon as they were issued to us.

As a civilian, I still like the Woodland Camo Pattern.

@gpatty6538

Жыл бұрын

Works well at night. That’s about it imo

@MaxCruise73

Жыл бұрын

@@gpatty6538 are you referring to the Woodland Camo Pattern?

@gpatty6538

Жыл бұрын

@@MaxCruise73 yes

@MaxCruise73

Жыл бұрын

@@gpatty6538 Thank you for your reply.

@davezanko9051

10 ай бұрын

@@MaxCruise73 It is a bit dark when new. A well broken in, somewhat faded set of woodland BDUs blended a lot better.

Multicam and atacs fg are the best

@Stryker309

Жыл бұрын

I heard hex camo works pretty well too

@sergeyloverow2105

Жыл бұрын

It is. That's why many countries use it. Some countries even use it officially by some units.

@JakeAvatar1

10 ай бұрын

Atacs is awesome. Actually had a guy step on my legs once when I was wearing it.

I wish I didn't sale the jacket I had. Got it online after they scrapped the project for cheap. Sold it for a profit, but wish I held on to it.

I was wondering what UCP stood for. Now I know, cool!

@tachyon8317

Жыл бұрын

Useless Camo Pattern

As much as I know the UCP isn't popular with the guys who actually had to wear them, I always did like the pattern. I just like American uniform patterns.

When I was in the Marines, I thought that those 2 where the same pattern and it would just fade to gray.

@slappy8941

Жыл бұрын

Where? Really dude? It's WERE, Einstein.

The Universal Camo Pattern was appropriately named, because it worked equally everywhere.

Army trying to figure out camo: Artists: exists High command: ah yes the ACU is perfect for gravel pits... mass produce it Artists: ????

As someone who wears UCP when playing OPFOR, I've always wanted some UCP-D but jeez is it pricey. there was a joke camo the British army came out with for aprils fools, and it was basically redbrick overlaid over MTP which had a similar colour profile to UCP-D and when it was revealed it was a joke, a lot of the OPFOR guys got disappointed, cos it looked kinda cool and would have fitted our requirement of wearing older and strange patterns quite nicely.

@rooknado

Жыл бұрын

sounds awesome, what’s OPFOR? i’m genuinely interested

@violetraven9440

Жыл бұрын

@@rooknado OPFOR is Opposing Force so basically in training when you play bad guy you’re OPFOR and I’m pretty sure that we call unknown enemy combatants OPFOR as well but idk

If only they made a digital version of the OCP pattern.

I was in the 82nd in Afghanistan in 2009-10, deployed with normal ACU’s and saw these. We just called them “the dirty ACU’s” since they looks like normal ones with mud on them. And yes Multicam was the crowd pleaser, it was new and actually worked.

Dyeing old UCP items with Rit Camel dye actually makes a decent camo. If you could tie-dye it, it would possibly be similar to UCP-D.

Idk how the hell they thought straight grey was better than this

Love the UCP D, I wish I could find this kind of pieces down here

Wow that actually looks cool.... Never thought i would say that about ucp

Is this the legendary camo that only blends in only on that one couch

Looks a whole lot more pleasing

Unironically, UCP-D is probably one of my favorite camouflages.

UCP-D looks like someone had a case of the runs while doing laundry

This is how all my UCPs ended up looking after a couple weeks sleeping in the dirt

this has to be super rare

The old chocolate chip desert pattern holds a special place in my heart

Ngl that camo goes Hard AF.

“What mountains are blue Greg?!?” “The Smokey mountains?” “THE *BLUE* SMOKEY MOUNTAINS? How is that going to help us in Afghanistan or Iraq?” “… All mountains look the same…” *has a stroke* “DID YOU JUST SAY ALL MOUNTAINS LOOK THE SAME?!?”

Although Multicam (or the slightly modified OCP version of it) is a good pattern, if the U.S. enters a major conflict they might have to consider a new pattern again. Reason being because tons of armies have started using it as well so it’s gonna be hard to tell friend from foe when there’s 4 different armies running around in Multicam. Even some Russian SF units are using it.

my first deployment to Afghanistan was in ACUs and my second deployment was in multicam. I was blown away at what a big difference the multicam made. when we were dismounted it was much harder to see where my soldiers where and made keeping the wedge formation together a bit of a pain in the butt. I was thankful.

Delta looks cool and if the bits were smaller I could see it working in a dry environment in the tropics

UCP-D is bad ass. After years of looking I finally found a L/XL delta ACH cover, and it's my favourite piece in my collection. Even though it didn't beat out OCP I still think that it's a sick pattern.

What I love most about multicam more than the obviousness that the pattern and colors were so much better is that their is so much less Velcro bullshit to deal with since you can get a sewd on rank and nameplate.

I saw a couple of guys wearing these in Afghanistan back in 2010 and I was amazed at how much just adding some brown made it look so much better and actually kind of effective

UCP-D looks like a digitized muted flecktarn.

Kid: "Mom I want Marpat" Mom: "We have Marpat at home." Marpat at home:

2009 one seems special force camouflage in SF movie! I personally love this look.

Looks like somebody got so upset at the UCPs they threw a handful of mud at it only for some General to walk by and go, "Hey! I really like that. MAKE IT STANDARD ISSUE!"

Ucp delta looks pretty damn good

I remember we put mud on our ACUs to camouflage during FTX lol

Little more info for those out of the loop: UCP fails as a camo pattern for two reasons: it has a bad color palette, and it uses a "digital" pattern. UCP features too many gray and blue hues, resulting in the average color being a pale teal color. A "Digital" pattern is the blocky pixellated style, which fails as a uniform pattern since it was designed for Naval Vessels. More specifically! Camouflage is designed to break up your silhouette by making parts of your body appear to be part of or concealed by the environment, even when you're partially exposed. This means each blotch of color needs to be big enough to be seen, but not so big that one color dominates the others. UCP fails due to its color blotches being way too small due to the sheer nature of "digital" camo, which was designed for Tanks and Naval vessels. When done properly, each "pixel" would be about a foot wide, and would align better with concrete buildings or the skyline. On people? The sharp corners are really noticiable in natural terrain, and never align enough in urban areas. In order to pass the tests, the pixels had to be shrunk, but nobody bothered to update the size of the splotches themselves.

Looks like the camo the soldiers wore in the movie ‘Soldier’ with Kurt Russell

Multicam in my opinion is one of the best to date

That’s actually pretty bad ass

The fugging button and collar 😂😭

The UCP program was not a bad idea; wat was bad was when top dogs decided to make it standard issue instead continue their search for a new uniform.

Just got some Urban digital camouflage but a lot of whitening so kind of looks like snow camouflage kind of cool I guess

Yep. Met a few 82nd dudes that were rocking this in Afg 09-10. Wild to see in country Also instant sub 🍻

UCP delta looks 🔥

1/508 and 2/508 PIR got to test it in the RC South and West area. Came with TAP mag pouches along with the helmet covers. It… was different.

@davethrasher4124

Жыл бұрын

It didn't work as well as it could have. But it certainly worked better than regular UCP.

“DIG 1” im not sure if you are a nerd like me or not but the “DIG 2” camo pattern was tested by CAG during early GWOT days. Later evolving into the AOR1&2/Marpat camo patterns😊

I remember the controversy back in the day ! the goody two shoes Hated Multicam so Much ! (multi cam was the most effective)

It's my favorite camo pattern in wildlands

Last to go through Basic Training in the green uniform....got my BDUs when I got back to my unit in 81. Seeing camouflage improvement over the decades....actually I'm impressed.

@MikeB128

10 ай бұрын

Thank you for your valiant peace-time service. We all owe you a debt of gratitude.

UCP-D looks pretty cool tho.

If they'd started with this, would it have stuck better?

@MikeB128

Жыл бұрын

Probably.

Multicam was such a relief after the first tour in acu. Nothing says northern ghazni like acu pattern

In its defence it blends in perfectly with a vomit stained carpet found in all 80s arcades.

It looks like a set of ACUs somehow got rusted

It looks vaguely eastern European if that makes any sense. Like if the greens were darker it could totally be from there

@rooknado

Жыл бұрын

i can totally see it. looks straight out of kosovo!

Ucp should have never been use in the us army. Cost many lives in afganistan. After BDU I BELIEVE MULTICAM WAS THE BEST UNIFORM TO REPLACE THE BDU. BUT UCP WAS JUST AN IDEA TO KEEP THE CONGRESSMAN COMPANIES EMPLOYED

Never heard of this rare delta version till now. Interesting

I like that version - and more than the multicam

The only time regular UCP works is if you get your uniform a little damp, and then roll around in the sand

I deployed with ACUs we crawled through the mud and dirt and stained them to help blend in. I kept one uniform clean to go home in.

I actually liked the Delta pattern.

The only time my ACUs were effective was when I stood against a 150 year old cracked, weathered, multi-toned wall. The ACU-Ds were really a relatively effective option.

Ah yes UCP the camouflage that hides you form nothing

I found that if you're falling through the sky on an overcast day, UCP fit just right. Except when it's old, because then it's white.

It’s like alpenflage meets Marpat. I don’t hate it though.

M81 and DCU were gold and then they shat the bed so hard

I like to use the ACU in the mountains Alaska cuz you blend in quite well around a lot of gray rocks

Looks like Army met Marines

Looks like the love child of marines camo and army’s

im glad our BN got the Multicam test during this time lol

Money savings gone wrong, I only heard of this a while ago and remember growing up looking at the less effective camo like; "where on this planet does that actually work like camo? did they give up on trying to camouflage or did they just have a massive fluke somewhere?"

It looks a bit like walnut dyed classic UCP. Cool.