The History of Super Mario 64's Lost Sequels
Today we are covering the History of Super Mario 64's lost sequels. SM64 is widely regarded as one of the best ways to take a franchise from 2D to 3D, whilst simultaneously receiving critical acclaim across the board. Setting the standard for 3D games going forward as well as imprinting gamers love for Nintendo universally. Receiving a 94 on Metacritic, and paving the way for the evolution of a genre, it shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone that Nintendo was looking to make a sequel. So why didn’t we ever get one?
Well, we almost did. Today we will be discussing Super Mario 64 2, Which is also known as Super Mario 128. The two names will get confusing at some points because Nintendo conveniently named multiple projects Super Mario 128 which naturally didn’t help for the purpose of this video I will be referring to the Super Mario Sequel as Super Mario 64 2. Without further ado let’s begin.
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00:00 Introduction
01:03 N64DD Issues
01:35 1997
03:15 1998
04:51 1999
05:20 Mario 128 Year 2000
06:32 2001
07:15 2002
09:05 2003
09:48 2004 Wii Time!
11:40 2005
14:17 2006
16:45 2007
17:49 Conclusion
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Thank you! yeah it's been about a month now, I'm still figuring out things, but hopefully the content will continue to improve going forward.
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It's on the list! Not sure when i'll get around to it, but it'll be coming out at some point. There's a lot of things I want to be covering.
@jaymesjmathias9390
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Gained me, sub'd just by seeing your statement. that and hope of hearing any all new info on a Super Mario 64 info
Gonna go back in time and spend my life savings on 64dds so sm642 can come out. I want that green box.
I remember being so disappointed that mario 128 didn’t appear at E3 05 after Reggie had announced it would
@thequestgamer
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that was a big promise to make, only to not deliver.
I know this is naive but out of all games that could release this year, nothing current gen could compare to the excitement I'd have playing a second SM 64. I love the Nintendo 64 and Gamecube era and somehow having more new games from that time would be beyond amazing. I wouldn't need more power ups or big changes, I'd be beyond happy just to have more of the Mario 64 world to explore. I know this won't happen but I would love to have new retro console games being made. Forget having to come up with big new gimmicks, just give me more of what I fell in love with. I think the mindset that "every game must have a new concept or gimmick" really hurt Nintendo as they missed SO many opportunities to expand the amazing worlds they made IMO.
Without Mario 128 we wouldn't have gotten Pikmin
Excellent job finding all of these facts and interview points. I really appreciate your level of scholarship, my friend, I hope success continues for you!
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I love the spinny transitions you used for the dates haha. It's what Mario would've wanted
@thequestgamer
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I was a bit worried people might have thought they were too goofy. But it's fitting for the video haha.
Awesome! Thanks to you for all your great work. 👏👏👏
@thequestgamer
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the encouragement!
And yet, they did Galaxy 2 and countless side scrolling sequels that weren't significantly different then their predecessors.
@thequestgamer
Жыл бұрын
As far as my research into the topic showed, nintendo believed galaxy 2 was significantly different than 1. At some point I will probably cover it, but I wanted to give the topic a bit more breathing room before I revisit.
I'm more disappointed that we were basically lied to about a proper 64 sequel than 128 was just a tech demo
What’s interesting is that the Mario 128 tech-demo is kind of what inspired Pikmin.
Is your voice TTS? Or are you just good at narration?
I'm glad this was recommended to me because I can say I was the 300th subscriber when you go viral
Hmm it always feels like Nintendo is out of touch with the fans. It is mentioned that sunshine was too similar to sm64 and the next game should be different…and it gave us the galaxy games. Which are great games and a lot of people love but the movement can’t hold a candle to sm64. I feel like they got it perfect the first time. There is a reason sm64 is the most speedran game of all time. The smash bros community went through the same thing with melee and brawl.
Super Mario 64 2, Metroid 64, and Resident Evil 1.5 were my most anticipated games of the late 90's.
I love super Mario sunshine. Completely underrated game
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One day, I'll tackle that mountain and do a thorough video on it. No idea when.
@SKY-wt2pp
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@@thequestgamer This feels like a Mario 128 inspired response.....lol. Would you consider a demo response 🤔.
I remember there was a lot of hype around Mario 128, but in the end it was just a tech demo, the decision of keeping it like that makes a lot of sense in corporate level, but hype will still be hype
What were people's thoughts on Mario 64 DS? Did this have any bearing on M64 2?
@regalternative
Жыл бұрын
I spent quite a bit of time on old Nintendo forums around the time that came out and this was discussed a lot. It seemed the general opinion was that 64 DS was good and satisfied everyones craving for 3D Mario, but we all still expected Mario 128 any day. Knowing more about the industry now, I would've guessed 64 DS would be the final nail in the coffin for 128, given the time, resources and effort I don't imagine they'd put into making such similar games at the same time. I wouldn't be surprised if some ideas planned for 128 went into 64 DS instead.
We may not have gotten a proper sequel to Mario 64 (although Mario Sunshine certainly feels like a spiritual successor), we can enjoy the next closest thing, Mario 64 ROM hacks, which offers a whole new experience on the same engine.
High quality video. Only a matter of time for you to get many subscribers!
Congratulations on the Whang shout out
Dudes keep up the hard work, this channel is gonna blow up!! Great editing, great narration. You'll hit a million subs in a blink
@thequestgamer
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Appreciate that. I'm glad a lot of people seem to be enjoying the content. Definitely keeps me motivated.
I understand there may have been scrapped sequels, but Sunshine and Galaxy were sequels...
Everyone says the Virtual Boy was Nintendo’s biggest failure but no one mentions the N64DD.
7:05 funny because I recently got a Gamecube and I was playing Smash Melee last night and came across Super Mario 128, and I used the exact same strat in this video to beat it! What are the odds I see it the very next day here? lol
robot voices are getting so realistic
I'ma need you to keep up the good work sir.
@thequestgamer
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Thanks, it's always nice to see people are enjoying the content. Working on new videos now. 👍
I loved Super Mario RPG, and always though on a possible remake or sequel. Never happened, but I had NEVER HEARD about a Super Mario RPG for N64!!! Very interesting. Sadly, I am still waiting.
At least we got Super Mario 64 last Impact. Sure it's an unofficial Rom Hack, But it's the Closest we'll ever get to Super Mario 64 2.
Hmm... you got yourself a new subscriber! I like what I see! I did a video on Mario 64 2 and Mario 128 as well, but you went into more detail! I like it!
Good stuff! Glad this popped across my feed
In a Super Mario 64 Beta rom I had, by pressing L on the controller, you could play as Luigi, and Mario again.
3:18 i really thought you said "fans will send emails to Dahausen" that would have been very evil
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Very evil indeed.
Came here from a Justin Whang tweet. Solid video, brother, earned a sub.
We may not have gotten a direct sequel, but I'm pretty happy with all the 3D Marios we did get. Sunshine is actually my favorite.
@kstaggs87
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I consider Super Mario Odyssey the true sequel/ spiritual successor to Super Mario 64.
It was a tech demo. And fans did what they always do, and made themselves angry and disappointed with wild speculation
The closest thing to Mario 64 2 we have is Mario 64 DS Mario64 DS has more worlds, also Luigi, Wario and Yoshi 🍄🍄🍄🍄
What is your source for the idea of being able to swap to Zelda in BotW2? Or is it just speculation?
@thequestgamer
Жыл бұрын
that aspect is speculation. Sorry for not making that clear. It was my assumption given how Nintendo's design principles are. I could of course be very wrong.
This video is stupid high quality. You got a sub from me. It's only up from here. I can feel it.
@thequestgamer
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Thanks, they take quite a bit of time, but a lot of people are enjoying it.
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@@thequestgamer I could imagine the research that goes into it. It was pretty thorough
Lol @ Mario Galaxy 1 & 2. Miamoto was in Holiday then??!
Love your KZread channel now and I just found it amazing you just earned a sub
@thequestgamer
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Thanks for subbing, Hope you enjoy the content. Theoretically there will be new stuff out today or tomorrow.
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Would you consider doing a development video of paper Mario 64? Just found your channel and I am absolutely hooked!
@thequestgamer
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I'm currently tidying up the last stages of editing on a development video right now, that should be released fingers crossed in the next 24ish hours if I'm being optimistic. For paper Mario, I have looked at it for the 64 and quickly realized, that I'm going to need to find time to replay through the whole game. Otherwise, I can't realistically do the video well. When I get time, I will absolutely be exploring the title, I can promise that. I have very fond memories of the series, and I do want to get around to it. But its a similar issue with games like Zelda, I need to set aside a sizeable amount of time to go through the game, make notes etc, then begin research and eventually that morphs into a video. Thanks for stopping by and I'm glad you like the content!
Bro, I enjoy your voice and look forward to more videos down the line! I’m definitely subscribing and will be playing your videos on the background at work!
Unfortunately it never came to be. No other official Mario game plays like it, no Mario game came close to it, no Mario game felt like it, it's really a shame. Not even the remake plays like it. It's very sad.
Very professional video quality, quality of a channel that has 700k + subs!
Weird question, but any chance you donated your voice to a Text-to-speech program? I know one that sounds just like you.
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Imagine finding of these lost dev carts to super Mario 64 2
Two many systems too close together. They really missed the boat with Mario 64-2
Switching between Mario and Luigi (as well as Yoshi and Wario) is possible in the DS Version of Mario 64
Super MArio 64 2 should've been released on either a 16MB(128MBit) cartridge; or a 32MB(256MBit) cartridge instead. I understand Nintendo wanted to take advantage of the extra Zip Disk storage at the time, but they should've just followed what Rareware, Konami, 3DO, and Ubisoft were doing and just focused on cartridge development if they couldn't keep their promise in tact. Especially considering the fact that 2nd and 3rd Parties didn't want to keep delaying releases of the games that would come to the console; only to be held back by constant delays of the add-on!
Great vid. Only suggestion is the voice gets a lil much after a while. No disrespect just a little robotic. But very informative video. ❤
Only 1.6k subs and this video is better than what some people with over 100k subs put out
Maybe it's for the better we never got Mario 64 2. I love Zelda, that franchise means a lot to me but I don't care for Majora's Mask. I know the development story behind it and all but that doesn't change my opinion. It is possible that Mario 64 2 could've went in a differing direction like Majora's Mask did. A lot of people like MM and a lot of people do not, it's a matter of taste. Personally I think MM is beautiful with a decent story but there are aspects that are a huge turn off for me. I feel the same way about Super Mario Sunshine. It's pretty with a good story but mechanics and gameplay are not for me.
Enjoy the rush of views from Whang! I’m glad he pointed me to such a well made video, excited to see what else you have in store
@thequestgamer
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
why does it sound like a text to speech
Good work man!! :0 instant sub
2:12 I like to ask most people I meet this same question.
Your narration is amazing, dude!
@mcfcxx9849
Жыл бұрын
It's an AI lol
It always disappointed me that Nintendo never gave us a true mario 64 sequel. Every game after had something that made it feel too different and could never completely satisfy what fans of SM64 loved about it.
Found out about this channel trough the expansion pack video and I was guns blazing ready to factcheck and bombard the comment with the true facts about it but was baffled by the accuracy of the video. Looking forwards to your videos buddy.
I’ll never understand this. People CLEARLY wanted a follow-up but Miyamoto preferred to explore other “creative” ideas that ended up being inferior versions of the game people actually wanted. It is very similar to where COD is right now. Give the people want they want. How can you not find gratification in that? It would been better to just walk away completely instead of Constantine teasing it.
And people complained about Duke Nukem forever's development time. 😲😲 At least that eventually appeared, how Miyamoto didn't seem to connect people expecting mario 128 to be a sequel to 64 is a bit baffling.
Give me a Super Mario World remake in 3D and I'll pay whatever you want.
the yt algo finally getting it right!!!
The Gamecube code name was Dolphin.
I thought sunshine was the sequel to 64. And then galaxy and galaxy 2. Then Odyssey.
why they using text to speech bruh
Galaxy is hands down the best Mario game of the modern era.
I am convinced this is text to speech
@tollutollu
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it definitely is.
Amazing video . Please do pilotwings snes next!!
@thequestgamer
Жыл бұрын
It's on the list of things to tackle. Not sure when exactly as there's a few things I'm rotating and working on at the same time, but it'll get done for sure at some point.
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@@thequestgamer nice my friend. I can’t wait !! Just binged watched all your videos today while working at the Ohio turnpike . It helped get me through a portion of my day . This is my new favorite channel!!
@thequestgamer
Жыл бұрын
Cheers! Glad I could keep you entertained for a bit. Hopefully you'll enjoy the content going forward.
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@@thequestgamer as long as there is content it is guaranteed to be enjoyed . From your first video to your newest they are all amazing !!
So the real Mario 64 2 was the friends we made along the way?
Wonder if anyone has the Project SM64(2) and will upload it against nintendo's will
Thanks Justin Whang
Who are the 6% of critics who didn’t like SUPER MARIO 64??? Miyamoto looks about 16 in this footage.
wow great vid brother nothing but facts no bs nice
Less than 1000 subscribers, gets you an instant sub from me. Plus you're content is solid thanks for sharing.
I wish the had 8mb of ram and the expansion was 8mb as well because I seen it could indeed run 16mb so only getting 8mb of ram all together was a huge miss I think if they went for 16mb of ram from the get go they could have easily ran it til 2002 and released a lot of these sequels
Fantastic vid
They really d!cked people around for years about 128. Glad I didn't get into the 64 or Game Cube.
Amazing channel
can you please do F-Zero next
@thequestgamer
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I've got a few F-Zero videos on the channel at the moment, and I have a few more planned, my intention currently is to lay off F-Zero for a few weeks due to the content I just dropped for it. But I definitely have plans to visit F-zero in depth.
@samuraibeastwarrior2886
Жыл бұрын
@@thequestgamer ok
Seriously, i'm not even think that 128 was full game. I always think that thing was a demo, no more. How did in different side of world people expect it to be full game
Got a sub from me. Keep it up!
Yeah I don't get it. It goes back to the whole if it ain't broke don't fix it. People like a certain style of gameplay and mechanics. Keep the formula and mechanics the same while changing up locations add minor new elements and story is an easy way to keep things fresh. We don't always need or want something brand new.
to me , it always felt weird we never got a super mario 64 sequel dispite how well the console did. and to me it sucked when super mario sunhine was the first new mario game after SM64, i rly RLY didnt like any of it from the location, music to the stupid fludpump. only the bonus stages were fun, i dont think i played through the whole game i sold my GC after a wile
Came to watch before it gets DMCA’d by Nintendo 😓
Is this an AI voice?
you sound like a text to speech
Lesson: Believe none of what your hear and half of what you see
Justin Whang sent me
is this a human's voice or a robot's
@betterthanbrooklyn5806
Жыл бұрын
ok he said reggie fills am it's a robot
I feel like some of the rom hacks we get now could be considered Sequels if Nintendo accepted them for what they are and didn't take most of them down every chance they get.
@betterthanbrooklyn5806
Жыл бұрын
I'm not defending nintendo on taking some fangame projects down but Nintendo doesn't take down romhacks
@hipoleto
Жыл бұрын
@@betterthanbrooklyn5806 some years ago they did throw romhacks down, a big example is when kaze emanuar kept recieving strikes for copyright from nintendo but now they stopped doing that
@betterthanbrooklyn5806
Жыл бұрын
@@hipoleto If I remember correctly what they did was take down the videos and his patreon (which was shitty) but the download pages were still up so the romhacks themselves weren't taken down
@hipoleto
Жыл бұрын
@@betterthanbrooklyn5806 hmm maybe yes, form what i remembered they dmca struck kaze's channel for a little bit once and some videos were made private bc of the copyright claims but i may have been wrong
mario 642!
SM64 will have a sequel? Can't wait for it!
Clean it up Bibble.
Nintendo ruined themselves with the release of the wii
It's funny because 128 is 64 ×2