Somebody has to say it.. We don't want ugly people as models.. We want to see the faces and bodies who actually look like angels.

@liannemarie2504

7 ай бұрын

This👏👏👏. As a young woman I was chubby when the original Victoria's Secret models were thin. I worked and aspired to be in better shape. Now, I'm thin and in shape and the Victoria's Secret models are huge.....What the hell?

@reneestevez7193

7 ай бұрын

That's the agenda to keep you as a couch potato glued to the Tv. Eating bugs and using only battery run ovens in order to please their progre minds. Vicky's Secret is oficially GONE!

@creampuffman4233

7 ай бұрын

lmao thats ironic@@liannemarie2504

@vishalmihai

7 ай бұрын

So you are okay with body issues?

@Chal813

7 ай бұрын

No fat and ugly people please. I’m sick of this ‘inclusive’ and ‘diverse’ crap

Letting them pick out their wings instead of having to “earn them“ like they used to, is definitely giving some strong “every kid gets a trophy” vibes…. 🤦🏼‍♀️🙄

@Andria-pippinpaddleopsicopolis

7 ай бұрын

Yah

@lunakitty847

7 ай бұрын

Everyone getting wings is the same as nobody having any

@Andria-pippinpaddleopsicopolis

7 ай бұрын

@@lunakitty847 ya

@Hilolo398

7 ай бұрын

Frrrrrr

@elenagaroti

7 ай бұрын

Curvy is fine, but they should have put something that actually fits

The wings were originally custom made to complete the look of the lingerie they were paired with for the fashion show. There was a specific aesthetic, a precise vision, that the wings complemented. When they're paired with random casual outfits, that's what makes them look cheap, because they're reduced to costume accessories with no cohesion in the overall look.

@Lela-plants

7 ай бұрын

This!!!

@ARUchannel1

4 ай бұрын

what is not coherent and has no cohesion is selling size 0 clothes to REAL WOMEN THAT ARE NOT SIZE 0!!! their downfall was because of their lack of customer representation.

@bellakim9169

4 ай бұрын

!!!!!!!!

This is a disgrace to Adriana, Gisele, Candice, Naomi, and other ACTUAL VS supermodels/icons

@inna1633

6 ай бұрын

Best and most expensive brands don't have online shops hun .vVictoria was big only in US

@stunnawhirl

6 ай бұрын

@@inna1633 Did you mean to reply to me?

@ARUchannel1

4 ай бұрын

it is not a disgrace when sales were declining because of their lack of representation and body shaming of REAL WOMEN, the public got tired of it.

@reyreynoldswinchester8757

4 ай бұрын

Yes sales were declining bc of the lack of representation but how exactly were they “shaming” “Real women”? Using a specific demographic of insanely beautiful women to promote a product is not shaming those who don't fit in that demographic… also are said insanely beautiful women not included in the “real women” category? Can you elaborate bc you, like many others seem to be contorting what the VS brand was actually doing…

@RoseRaines

3 ай бұрын

@@ARUchannel1so the former and current models are not ‘real women’? Maybe their original declining sales was due to more competition now that the internet is widespread and quick shipping/delivery is widespread? VS was selling a fantasy. Do you see Nike use overweight or mediocre athletes to sell their merchandise? No, they had Michael Jordan. Same thing, a fantasy. VS would have been wise to use common sense and kept the supermodels but expand their sizing available in stores and catalogs.

I’m starting to think that Victoria’s so called ‘secret’ is just them going in a downward spiral.

@LiamColeman-Halla-yq2jl

8 ай бұрын

They fund Planned Parenthood, the place where babies are killed. God is just punishing Victoria's secret.

@dd-bf3ch

8 ай бұрын

😂 I thought you were going somewhere else with that. Like Victoria's so called secret is a p....s

@GiSoldier559

8 ай бұрын

Damn you’re fast

@dailywire_memes

8 ай бұрын

@@GiSoldier559quicker than quick and faster than fast. I am speed

@RomanMyshoul85

8 ай бұрын

@@dd-bf3ch LOL, dead on perfect. Victoria's Secret is that he used to be Victor

I LOVED the old VS fashion show, I'd even have a couple of friends over and we'd have a girls night...oohing and awwing over how beautiful everything was. My impression of it was they were selling us a FANTASY. The point was to bring something beautiful and special into your everyday life. You'd see something cute on a beautiful woman dressed as a fantasy angel, go buy it, and have a piece of that fantasy with you while shopping for groceries. I'm not going to be impressed by what Rhonda from the gas station wears. Don't sell me mundane. I want the dream, I want the fantasy.

@miaelle1500

7 ай бұрын

Damn not Rhonda from Chevron😭💀

@SunshineBarbie-sv4bi

7 ай бұрын

For real I always liked watching the fashion show for the fun, magical glamour. If I wanted to see an average looking obese woman in dull sweats I’d just go to Walmart

@every1665

7 ай бұрын

Exactly. When a car manufacturer advertises it's latest sports car, it shows some square-jawed hunk driving it masterfully along winding country roads, clinging to sharp corners and effortlessly accelerating up mountain roads. They don't show some fat bald guy stuck in a shopping mall carpark - which would actually be far more realistic, but wouldn't inspire many sales.

@SunshineBarbie-sv4bi

7 ай бұрын

@@every1665 for real if I see a product advertised in an appealing way of course I’m going to buy it I mean that’s common sense (even though common sense isn’t very common anymore)

@sarcasm-83

7 ай бұрын

Yeaah but it's [current year] all fantasy must be trivially relatable to the average people (of all kinds) or it's offensive... Kinda like "any thing is only as strong as it's weakest link"... no, wait, I mean, weak is strong and beautiful! Ugly is heavenly! Fat is fit, fit is offensive, men glow when pregnant! _sigh_ I really don't understand wtf happened to the world. Did I die and this is purgatory, where slowly all reason erodes away, turning everything to sordid BS?

I never understood why Pretty thin people are punished for making someone they don't know insecure. There will always be someone prettier and skinnier than you, why should they be forced to change themselves to make you feel better? I think people are starting to understand how stupid it is, that why we all want the old angels back

@cheese.strings.for.breakfast

Ай бұрын

fr! if your sole response to a skinny pretty model is "but i don't look like her, waa waa" then you need to get a grip lol

@lovelovelovelovelove616

12 күн бұрын

Like they say: everyone preaches body positivity until someone is thinner than them

@peaceness888

Күн бұрын

I get the original intent though. We don't need to punish the women; obviously, but Victoria's Secret hosting a fashion show with only size 2 models sends a subliminal message. Women don't have to be size 2 to be beautiful or to make a bra look good. There is something in between a size 2 and a size 14. Including some healthy-weight, attractive models alongside their often underweight (but also very attractive) models would promote a more healthy body image. Think women like Kate Upton, etc.

Girl you hit the nail on the head with that time of the month quote😂 Victoria's secret was created to make women feel beautiful,pretty & sexy! Not homeless😂

@tropics67

7 ай бұрын

🤣😂😅🤣

@bellakim9169

4 ай бұрын

!!!!!!!!

I never looked like the Victoria’s Secret model and it never made me feel bad about myself, and never felt ashamed. I never felt bad I just love the clothes and I love the catalogs and the shows.

@shana8055

7 ай бұрын

Same! I liked going to VS back in the day because all the girlie pretty stuff and the peppy nice workers made us FEEL like we did look like the VS angels. It was a fun fantasy. If I wanted black and grey, tank tops, and average looking models, I could go to Hanes or any other cheaper underwear store.

@dr.m6152

7 ай бұрын

Yeah right? Like it was assumed everyone knew that they were models. There's no need for everything to be about us. We can appreciate other people anf their beauty

@beauxanges

6 ай бұрын

In your case.

@bellakim9169

4 ай бұрын

!!!!!!!

Victoria should have kept this secret.

@wafflelover018

7 ай бұрын

Lol, underrated comment

@TeenageDirtbag8

7 ай бұрын

lol

@Pidatha

7 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@kstankova3606

7 ай бұрын

😂😂😂lool

@cheese.strings.for.breakfast

Ай бұрын

LMAOO

If I want to see common women, I can simply walk on the streets. The nice thing about Victoria's secret it was to see those exceptionally gorgeous women... With colorful and happy outfits.

@msairs

7 ай бұрын

omg i so agree. and also with the pictures they put on display outside their store. like eww i don't want that blown up in my face. i can see that on when i turn around and walk on the street. i loved seeing the beautiful women up there with their amazing bone structure. it was like art back then.

@supremepeace.

7 ай бұрын

@@msairs Good point. To look at those women enliven the soul. Is like the God's artwork. Now everything is getting boring.

@elinama7061

6 ай бұрын

And they look so radiant and happy. Say what you want about their dieting methods but when they're on that runway you can tell that's the moment they feel that happiest and I love that for them

I'm a curvy girl who loved the old shows, me and my friends got together every year for it and I loved seeing all these beautiful women walk and see the collection, it didn't bother me about size because they were supposed to look like angels, unattainable cosmic beings.

@jameslatta6813

7 ай бұрын

""Cosmic beaings." < Awesome comparison. Thank you.

@bellakim9169

4 ай бұрын

!!!!!!!!

@cheese.strings.for.breakfast

Ай бұрын

yeah exactly, if your first response to a pretty model walking a runway show is "boo hoo, I don't look like her" then you need to get a grip

VS went full WalMart. Everyone knows you never go full Walmart.

@AutumnBaxter

8 ай бұрын

And ironically Walmart has been upping their game in apparel lately. Sad to think you can get sexier clothing at Walmart than Victoria’s Secret

@ZeroDarknezz

8 ай бұрын

@@AutumnBaxter How it's that sad?? You can get nice clothing at very good prices.

@seadragon1456

8 ай бұрын

I don’t even see the point of buying any of it. I never get to wear it longer than 5secs anyway.

@johnkeller5163

7 ай бұрын

Apparently, it's still one step better than full Target! 😁

@chainsawsubtlety9828

7 ай бұрын

@@seadragon1456 Then it is being used correctly.

My advice for VS is 1) to put your models in clothes that actually fit and 2) don't let the influencer run the show. JS. As a curvy girl, I cringe when I try on a shirt that's a size too small. And letting the influencers be the center of attention at the show instead of the actual models is a recipe for disaster.

@-MaryPoppins-

7 ай бұрын

As a person who works out/hikes daily, i also cringe when something is too small 😩😂 I’m 5ft 95-100lbs, and sometimes it just LOOKS BAD.

@rayf6126

7 ай бұрын

VS doesn't even have bras that fit me, I'm a speciality order. Bad fitting clothes stink and make you feel like crap.

@CharlanaJo

7 ай бұрын

Not to mention it's disrespectful to the models. I also modeled and there was a lot of hard work that physically went into it. The influencers aren't doing the hard-earned work. They're just sitting in front of the camera.

@CharlanaJo

7 ай бұрын

​@@rayf6126I can't even begin to tell you how many women that I would fit bras for would complain about that. They always asked if there is anything that we could do or say and half of the employees would ust brush it off.

@alyseceleste

7 ай бұрын

@@rayf6126i cannot fit into VS Bras because I have zero boobage. Tried one, didn’t fit and never went back

A model’s beauty is supposed to be unattainable. Thats what makes it entertaining and awe-inspiring. I miss the original show!!!

@elenagaroti

7 ай бұрын

Instead of angels, they gave us ugly and fat tiktokers

@anahitanorphan

7 ай бұрын

@@elenagaroti no reason to hate on their looks, they're just doing their jobs. they are all beautiful, but i think the need for inclusivity is what brought the show down.

@elenagaroti

7 ай бұрын

@@anahitanorphan curvy could have been fine if they put something that actually fits. They look like blobs

@jameslatta6813

7 ай бұрын

@@anahitanorphan No they are not "all beautiful." Not everyone is beautiful and attractive. These are rare qualities. And there is nothing wrong with that.

@mayawilliams9960

7 ай бұрын

Can we be so fr right now this is Victoria secret models and fat women wear lingerie and underwear to

My body and my twin sisters were like the original angels. Some people are naturally petite. Victoria went down in value when they made their stuff cheap and charged full price. Instead of fixing their product, they tried to capture the shoppers who would never shop there even if they had their size. Being more inclusive would be carrying up to size Lizzo and Tess Holiday. They didn't have to get rid of beauty.

@bellakim9169

4 ай бұрын

!!!!!!

This is what happens when you hire Lizzo and Dylan as creative consultants

@kathyk8310

8 ай бұрын

Exactly!

@reneestevez7193

7 ай бұрын

😂😂😂👍

@TeenageDirtbag8

7 ай бұрын

ok cool I love that lizzo got sued

@alicewukasch9180

7 ай бұрын

💯

The whole reason the OG VS fashion show was so big was bc of how over the top fun/fab it was. It was girly fun but hot and aspirational..even if you weren’t stick thin it made girls feel confident in being a girl and even if we couldn’t relate we would still grab the popcorn with our girlfriends and gawk at how amazing it all was. I miss the days where everything didn’t have to be so serious and deep and you could just enjoy things

@JeffCaplan313

7 ай бұрын

That was before we all learned what a woman is.

@WhatTheWHAT524

7 ай бұрын

​@@JeffCaplan313Yep for sure. Just ask anyone of the woke mob. They can totally explain exactly what a woman is. All based in facts and not emotion too! Heck I totally didn't know what a woman was back then or now apparently. Even though I am indeed a biological female, I just had absolutely NO CLUE what a woman was until more recently. 👀🤔🤦🤣 I have to laugh or I will lose my mind for sure. Because most the damn world apparently has for sure. When we can't even agree on things like what a woman is, or ya know protecting our children..... Well we are in serious trouble. And it's quite terrifying actually. Can't have any open conversations or discussions anymore either unless you agree 1000% or you risk being a bigoted, racist, phobic, toxic masculinity spewing, (insert any other buzz words here), horrible crazy person. Who only speaks hate speech. It's sure a slippery scary slope.

@tessax

7 ай бұрын

It’s because all the Fat woman were crying because they wanted to be part of the Fantasy but too lazy to get off their ass and now that we have this Dreadful rebrand the Fat woman want the old VS back.

@cartertran270

7 ай бұрын

It’s actually been show women where happier when beauty standards existed. Everyone can be beautiful in their own way but Objective Beauty does exist and it’s good to celebrate it.

@eerierevenant742

7 ай бұрын

@@cartertran270beauty’s standards still do exist. They’ve never went anywhere, what? They just change.

VS models dont need to look like us and we dont need to look like them. Models are meant to be thin to fit into any type of clothing. What we need is to help other women increase their self-esteem and understand there’re different body types, and as long as u keep healthy love it the way it is. We cannot all look the same.

In my family, and many other Swedish families, the Victoria Secrets Fashion show was a nice christmas tradition, becuase the show was broadcasted at christmas every year here. We loved the glittery, sparkly, fairytale and joyful show. It was wonderful to see the different sceneries, we were transported from the Scottish highlands to a candystore, to the mystical middle east, to a busy New York city street. It was a fairytale! And the angels were like fairytale creatures. I especially remember that year when Katy Perrey was singing "Fireworks", and I felt so uplifted (as a woman, "I am fireworks). I did not ever felt less worth as a person or a woman because of the angels, on the contrary. The angels were fairytale creatures and no need to compare too. And they smiled and looked happy. Every fashion show nowdays the models looks like either that they want to punch someone or start crying. This commercial looks like the models have a laundry day and just throw on what ever they had at home that was not going in the laundry. Awful!!. Not everything needs to be "reinvented"!!

@elenagaroti

7 ай бұрын

They removed the angels and gave us fat tiktokers

@jameslatta6813

7 ай бұрын

"fairytale creatures" < Beautiful comparison. Thank you.

agreed with so many people. im not white or conventionally attractive, nor do i wear lingerie, but i definitely watched clips of victoria secret shows because i loved how feminine, fun and beautiful everything was. i don’t care to see myself “on screen” nor do i care about a model relating to me, i just wanted to see the fantasy they sold. same goes for a lot of media and entertainment, im not looking for representation, just a fun or chill time passer.

@TeenageDirtbag8

7 ай бұрын

ok cool

@marcusflatt9084

7 ай бұрын

You just hit the right word. FANTASY! Thank you. This isn't supposed to be "real."

@SRBOMBONICA86

7 ай бұрын

​@@user-de9uc3py4dmost people are obese , anorexia is not a problem

@MonkeGeorge

7 ай бұрын

@@marcusflatt9084 But when we have a culture where fiction representations seem to matter, it was only a matter of time before someone explained why the fantasy influences reality, meaning young girls / body conscious people or whatever, etc. This is what happens when politics inhibits art.

@longtimelo

7 ай бұрын

Great comment. I'm old and I do not aspire to be a 20 y/o supermodel. But I still enjoy watching a show featuring beautiful people. It's the same way a non-athlete enjoys watching the Olympics. As humans, we are instinctively drawn to beauty and raw talent..... in nature, sports, the arts and entertainment. We don't want to see mediocrity reflected back at us. We are not mesmerized by people who are aged, ugly, fat and unhealthy. It's a major turn off. When are these woke marketing and advertising dim bulbs going to get it?

Brett, I have totally noticed this in recent years. I am a 29 year old millennial. The once awesome 5 star restaurant in my city was what people strived to work hard towards being able to enjoy. They had a dress code and the waiting staff was so professional. The last time I went they were allowed to have purple hair and piercings and were so rude. I went to celebrate a new career and the experience felt so cheapened. The “inclusive” atmosphere felt aweful and suffocating. It felt like there was nothing to work towards anymore…

@JF1J

7 ай бұрын

Hey, kudos about your new career! And sadly, yes. meritocracy is being replaced by mediocracy (as i call "being mediocre is ok").

@QTpatootie95

7 ай бұрын

Dude every food service establishment is full of RUDE alternative teens and they/thems who literally treat you like shit and make your food wrong and then act like you're a Nazi for having any issue even if you're polite. I've worked food service my career is that of an admin/EA and if people are assholes who look like shit they need to get the hell out of hospitality.

@eddie-g-6452

7 ай бұрын

As someone who enjoys eating out, I totally concur. 👍 It's NOT the quality of the food that has digressed, but the 'state' of the waiting staff. And the owners wonder why profits / income has declined !! 🤔

@Kizzy-pu4he

7 ай бұрын

I personally don't care if wait staff have purple hair or piercings or black fingernail polish. As long as they meet the dress standards, are properly trained and know the importance of giving 5 star service. I work in an environment where we have all kinds of people, goth, young, old, etc. I myself am almost 70 years old. But I have seen where, when customers are given the quality service, the piercings, etc are no longer what is noticed. Too bad that restaurant isn't training and demanding that type of adherence to the level of service an expensive restaurant should be giving.

@twothousandandchew

7 ай бұрын

inclusivity is so forced 90% of the time just watch the newer seasons of greys anatomy and it’s super easy to see

The 2005 show is my all-time favourite. It was the sweet spot before the focus shifted heavily to the musical acts, but the costumes and sets were over-the-top beautiful. And Giselle was still walking the runway. Also the music was SO GOOD.

It's horrible. When I was young I used to ADORE victoria's angels. They were my heroes, kind of a proof that a woman could actually do whatever she wants. Somehow now people think that you have to be fat, a biological man or some kind of weird creature. This is absurd.

I’m a curvier woman, and while I love seeing woman closer to my body type represented in the fashion industry I think it’s also important to do right by them. If you’re going to put them in something make sure it actually fits. Don’t cast models you know you can’t do right by.

@TheBandit7613

7 ай бұрын

Did they try to make the women unappealing? The clothes didn't fit. The models, even ones with curves, should be pissed.

@TeenageDirtbag8

7 ай бұрын

agree

@doyouliketacosiliketacos5139

7 ай бұрын

It's nice, when I was younger and my ED was bad vs models were the inspiration sadly. To see different body types is amazing because I would never dream of this as a teenager

@Mae11549

7 ай бұрын

@@TheBandit7613 that’s what I’m thinking. The woman are beautiful but it almost looks like they wanted to make a point that these models are “ugly” or something.

@savagegtalks5912

7 ай бұрын

hunks can make their own + size fashion show without destroying what these other woman has starved themself for... Now ppl won't be watching and they will have starved themself and kept lookin slim for nothing 🤣

As a graphic designer, I always dreaded going into a boardroom with a design because everybody had to make themselves look important or make a contribution to the design. So they would put forth. So many ridiculous things that the art ended up being mediocre at best... I think this is an example of that as well. Everybody had to have their say and you ended up with mediocre... Also, there's a decline and creativity across the board from movies that continually want to make remakes or continuations because they have no new ideas. I believe the true artists here are being pushed out because they think for themselves and they contradict their "agenda."

@malumachado4561

7 ай бұрын

"Design by committee" never turns out well.

@djp8487

7 ай бұрын

100% correct!

@IceQueen975

7 ай бұрын

" I believe the true artists here are being pushed out because they think for themselves and they contradict their "agenda."" Correct. It's this. Creatives still exist. But if we don't fit 'The Agenda' we're shut out and silenced.

@2Sherm

7 ай бұрын

The definition of a camel. A horse designed by committee

@theresadong9269

6 ай бұрын

blame cancel culture.

I miss the 1980s and 90s when we didn’t get mad and offended that models were beautiful.

@jameslatta6813

7 ай бұрын

Or jealous and envious and embittered.

@beauxanges

6 ай бұрын

Its not about omg im mad theyre cute its deeper than that lol Its about inclusion.

@jameslatta6813

6 ай бұрын

@@beauxanges "Inclusion" was a term created by the CCP and spread through TikTok and other social media accounts to destroy the fabric of our society. Twitter (X) and Microsoft Security discovered tens of thousands of fake user accounts based in Beijing where operatives in China posted comments on social media that were designed and engineered to unravel the American people and promote wokeness. It worked.

@bellakim9169

4 ай бұрын

!!!!

I absolutely love this, this is the perfect example of "be careful what you wish for" 😂 as i brand, i wouldn t understand what people want. They cancel everything the brand represents and then they are upset that they give them what they want.

@theresadong9269

6 ай бұрын

fr

@Pinterest_pics

6 ай бұрын

Exactly! All people do is complain 😂

@serendipityismyfavoriteword

2 ай бұрын

Exactly...people always have something to complain about.

At least now I can proudly say that I look and dress like Victoria's Secret Supermodel.

@JaneDoe-kn8yy

7 ай бұрын

And I as an average looking women FINALLY feel bitter and jealous. I can do this job, where is my VS's $$$$$ ?

@lorag4664

7 ай бұрын

Not yet. I have a few wrinkles and sags now! They're still ageist!😂🤣😂

@coconutcream743

7 ай бұрын

I'd rather look like a fenty model, idk wtf this crap is lol

@Kwildcat13

7 ай бұрын

Why would you want to dress like that ?

@elonever.2.071

7 ай бұрын

@@Kwildcat13 To paint a room in your house.

Them adding Julia Fox to the list of "angels" is all the indication we needed to how horrific the rebrand is.

@moonwaves359

7 ай бұрын

Exactly. Absolutely classless

@marieascencion8826

7 ай бұрын

@@moonwaves359 did anyone see haliey whatever as one of the angels?there just adding random people and random stuff too lol 😕

@lilyawood

7 ай бұрын

Lol Doja Cat too

@marieascencion8826

7 ай бұрын

@@lilyawood lol 😆

@the_absurd_hero

7 ай бұрын

I don’t know who any of those people are... I’ll consider myself lucky >_>

I’m old enough to have been your age in the early 2000’s and Victoria secret didn’t carry every size but that was ok. It was meant for a certain type of woman and it gave you something to work towards. Now here comes all these kids raised to believe everyone deserves an award so, now they carry XXXXXL and no one has to work toward anything so now no one diets and there’s literally more obesity than ever before in our country. We are literally the laughing stock of the world. I’m sorry it needs to be said .

"Obese" is not a body type, it's an unhealthy lifestyle. I think body representation is great, however, the whole point of the VS show is "other worldly" thin girls that you don't see in everyday life, styling VS lingerie. On another note, if skinny girls scantily at fashion shows offends you, don't watch the show, it's that simple. I'd have to be anorexic to fit in anything under size 7, because that's not the size my body is built to be, but I don't go around shaming girls for being skinny, and demanding people view me as the ideal body standard. Live your own life instead of demanding the world to fit your ideal.

I didn't watch VS Fashion Show to see the everyday woman, it was special because all of it was exceptional

@docsavage8640

8 ай бұрын

I can see fat women at the mall or grocery store any time. I don't want to, but there they are. Nobody wants to see obesity.

@P.Whitestrake

7 ай бұрын

Exactly. If a fashion show looks like everyday shit, why bother making a fashion show?

@andrew10862

7 ай бұрын

This is so true..

@MissShembre

7 ай бұрын

It's basically the Olympics of fashion

@RaveDaver

7 ай бұрын

(Super)Model is a titel you get for the hard work and commitment, yes even if you were born with exceptional looks/charisma you have to maintain and improve yourself. Why should i watch/admire/enjoy average people on those events?...... You can compare this with sports.

I'm actually really sad that VS turned out this way. I loved the VS fashion show, it was so refreshing in comparison to other boring fashion shows. It used to be every model's goal to be an angel, now, it feels like everyone is an angel. It used to be a fantasy, and now it's a nightmare.

@raimeyewens7518

7 ай бұрын

Most women don’t look like the models but they want the fantasy of wearing what they wear. When you see an obese woman in lingerie it just ruins it for you. And it’s not visually pleasing to see a large woman with her rolls, double chin and cellulite waddling down the runway. They just didn’t want the backlash from these body positive people. It’s not like the obese people could boycott them and have it affect their sales because they didn’t fit in their clothes to begin with. When they went woke that’s when then they lost some of their customers.

@SunshineBarbie-sv4bi

7 ай бұрын

For real not everyone needs to be a vs angel. Looking at the models now gives me an eyesore, there’s no beauty or glamour.

@itsjim2875

7 ай бұрын

"Now, it feels like everyone is an angel" I agree with you, BUT that's what "they" want us to feel, that everyone is beautiful and that it has nothing to do with physical appearance. Everyone gets a trophy, etc.

@Hopeful.JewNaNa.1948

7 ай бұрын

@@itsjim2875 if everyone gets a "trophy" then what's the point in working hard to achieve our goals? What's the point in working hard if "everyone" gets the reward? Some things are meant to be out of reach, so when you reach it, it will bw worth your while.

@SunshineBarbie-sv4bi

7 ай бұрын

@@Hopeful.JewNaNa.1948 I definitely disagree with the everyone gets a trophy nonsense especially in modeling. Imagine you have two models. Model a is fit,toned, healthy takes care of herself(which is a basic requirement for modeling but correct me if I’m wrong) and is great at her job. While model b is morbidly obese and says she wants to be a model but doesn’t want to work out or be healthy and wants everyone to cater to her needs. How is that fair for model a whose working very hard for her job and doing everything a model should while model b isn’t doing diddly squat

To say that Victoria’s Secret models promote unrealistic expectations is such an eye roll. Although those girls look absolutely amazing on stage, in real life most of these girls would look super weird. There’s no way in hell I would ACTUALLY wanna look like a Victoria’s Secret model. Have you ever asked a girl how she feels about her body when she’s between 5’9 to 6 foot? It ain’t all sunshine and rainbows. Let these giraffe type women have their thing. They look freaking amazing doing it and I love watching. I’m not threatened in the least, and if watching these beautifully unique women strut their stuff triggers you it has to do with how you feel about yourself (and to be honest something probably needs to change).

I'm so over this inclusivity thing. I'm a plus-size girl. I do not need stores that DO NOT normally sell plus-size items to cater to me. I was perfectly happy watching the show the way it was before. IN FACT, a lot of the time, I would get ideas about what to look for, but from a place that sells similar items to fit my body(aka SOMA). I used to be one of those "it would be so nice to see girls like me" in these fashion shows. NOT ANYMORE! Using an unhealthy body type to promote a fashion line is not cool(that also goes the other way as well) no one wants skin and bones. That's not pretty either.

@mayawilliams9960

7 ай бұрын

And a lot of VS models are and it’s a lingerie show fat women wear it to this isn’t a Prada show

@AnaDabmian

4 ай бұрын

Well, thank God! Finally a plus size girl who is OK with not being a part of EVERYTHING that goes on in the fashion world... Now, THAT is REAL body positivity! All of this social pressure bulls*** that they put onto VS is like me auditioning for a role in a movie about 4 grannies on a desert island, then b*thing about not getting a role due to "ageism"

@sgurrl6341

4 ай бұрын

@@AnaDabmian Also I am a plus size girl who believes it's okay to go to the gym and lose weight! I am on my health journey now! I am so over the social pressures of body positivity.

People forget fashion shows are art galleries. Designers put their art on the runway and they get to choose the canvas on which to display it. OG VS was amazing because the designers were able to showcase their vision and talent on women who they thought would best express that vision. Also, some of those clothing pieces were so heavy! VS models look the way they do because they need to be strong enough to wear a 60lb skirt down the runway and make it look like a feather.

@CammieKN

7 ай бұрын

So true! I used to watch it every year growing up and the pieces were beautiful and each piece took months to create and handmade too. I no longer shop at VS. It doesn’t feel special anymore.

@BouncerMcDayGreen

7 ай бұрын

60lb skirts?

@aeri_taylors-version

7 ай бұрын

@@BouncerMcDayGreeni think they meant the wings. some of those are heavy, and they have to make it look effortless while walking in heels

Apparently Victoria Secret saw Bud Light's approach to criticism and said "hold my G string". They are telling their customer base "F YOU" if they dare to voice disapproval? Good luck with that...

@sarahMuahahaha

7 ай бұрын

😂

I’m certainly not in the league of the former angels but it never made me feel bad about myself. I really loved it and you are right Brett it was fun and uplifting to watch

@missdemeanour6981

7 ай бұрын

Same here, I watched the tour on prime and I couldn't finish it. Putting those curvy women in outfits 4 sizes too small almost seemed like they were making fun or shaming them. I would not buy what they were wearing unless I wanted to look like a joint of pork. I thought it would be like the shows we all loved (all my friends got together to watch) but with different body types in there too, I didn't understand what they were trying to do but I have no idea how they are going to recover from this

I actually have a pair of victoria secret angel wings when I worked there long ago..I thought they were just too pretty and elegant to destroy which were the rules at the time. It has and feathers and a soft color pallet. I love them and would never destroy them.

@oceanexblve884

6 ай бұрын

They gave wings to their workers ?

@amandanorris8

6 ай бұрын

@@oceanexblve884 no, but I was a manager in a large Victoria’s Secret and they’d put wings on the mannequins. Of course those are like super super fancy wings, but they were still pretty. We were told to destroy them by corporate🤫

@bellakim9169

4 ай бұрын

!!!!!!!!!

Dude, her takes on the description of the outfits is legendary. She really let them have it lol. Go Brett 💯

@pentallica893

7 ай бұрын

You don't find it odd that first woman wanted to be shown in a more realistic light and now they're complaining because they want the fantasy?

@MyZ001

7 ай бұрын

@@pentallica893 You don't get points for doing it if you do it terribly wrong. There's a wide margin between fantasy and reality. Showing women in unflattering, baggy, fully covering wife beaters and period panties probably isn't want they meant when they said "more common, realistic women and features".

@pentallica893

7 ай бұрын

​​​​@@MyZ001it wasn't done wrong. It's literally showing women wearing what they wear. And they don't like the fact that they're showing it. It's not unflattering. You're just taking it negatively for the sake of taking it negatively Victories secret isn't just about selling sexy clothes. And woman are upset that they're advertising it now... Just because they wear them when they're on their periods doesn't mean that they don't wear them when they're not on their periods. Again. They hate that victorias secret didn't make a commercial showing sexy looking women wearing sexy clothing.

@cindybarretto

7 ай бұрын

​@@pentallica893the point is that there is nothing creative about a wife beater. The old VS shows had them in creatively designed lingerie , a fashion show is supposed to be art. They've also included trans models in this fashion show which is the first thing that people didn't wanna see.

@Raven11287

7 ай бұрын

@@pentallica893I anyone wanted to see normal women wearing normal clothes they can just look in the mirror or at the streets. We want to see beautiful models wearing beautiful clothes so we can fantasize that we can look like them too.

Us: “That’s not hate speech” Victoria Secret: “Well, I hated it!”

@longtimelo

7 ай бұрын

Is it hate speech is you say you 'hate' their new disastrous campaign?

@BouncerMcDayGreen

7 ай бұрын

@@longtimelo No. Not at all.

Yes! VS was, in the beginning, very special lingerie. Emphasis on the special lingerie. They made lingerie for special occasions, weddings, anniversaries, special nights. It was made for a specific type of woman, not just any woman. It was an aspiration. It was not inclusive, it was exclusive. Why does no one want there to be exclusive things today? To have a man buy you VS lingerie said something of how he saw you. You felt pretty in the matching sets, teddies, silk gowns and sleep sets. It wasn’t every day lingerie; you bought that somewhere else.

"sad, AI, body-positive tinkerbell" got me good

So fun fact, VS does actually sell the tank top. It just sold online. VS has always sold clothes in addition to the lingerie but it was kept to the online store (and if you’re old enough to remember, the magazine). I still own a sweater I bought from them back in 2005ish. One of my favorite sweaters. I just popped over to check and see if the still offered all the items they used to and sadly no. It’s lingerie, exercise and lounge wear. And swim wear.

@monkeybizz-151

8 ай бұрын

Yes! I still have a lot of VS clothes that I still wear and love! I was very upset when they stopped the clothes line!

@oatmealtruck7811

7 ай бұрын

Their clothes were so cute!! So bummed they stopped making them. My 00’s era was 🔥 because of the VS clothing line. 😢 and now it’s gone forever, just like the hot supermodels 💔

@J.Young808

7 ай бұрын

My friend would get the zip up hoodies in store for a minute but she could get the sweats.

@psychegoddessoflight9358

7 ай бұрын

I'm STILL obsessed with my VS zip up hoodies with the sparkly angel wings on the back. I refresh my worn out ones with pre owned/"lightly worn" ones on eBay or Poshmark, etc from time to time.

@savage.4.24

7 ай бұрын

Ah i still have the iconic pink shirt with a v neck and a black heart on it!

If before this Victoria's Secret was almost dead, now it's in the grave with 6 feets of ground over it and this comes from someone who liked everything of the old fashion shows. It's really a clowns world.

@shaunp9592

7 ай бұрын

Same here, they haven't figured out that what made the shows so popular then has to be done the same now. Changing thins and even worse "promoting" large, unhealthy body sizes is not going to win viewers/customers. I wanted to watch the new show, after seeing this preview I'm not watching it, I'd like to keep my supper in my stomach.

@1282louise

7 ай бұрын

The only solution they have is go back the first big show like 2001. All the supermodels with music that had tension and amazing outfits. If they are not willing to do that they are never going to have succes. Also every ahow after 2010 got worse

@marissarose1667

7 ай бұрын

@@1282louisethis is like if the fashion show came back as a zombie 😫

I miss the old and real vicoria secret models 😢

You are just amazing!! And for me you are the best way to stay informed. Thank you. Very fun and informative.

Victoria's Secrets has transformed from an elegant fashion show to celebrate female physical beauty to a parade of circus freaks.

@HotUglyBasturdGenreIsFire

8 ай бұрын

Wait a bit and they'll have a "woman" model for them. After that it's no longer "Victoria's secret," instead it's going to be "Victor-ia's secret."

@Chanelnumber7394

8 ай бұрын

This comment 👌

@m4tta

7 ай бұрын

@@carhart001to be honest, a lot of us girls have big adams apples too but i get what you mean 😂

@wings8504

7 ай бұрын

Exactly

@landerk

7 ай бұрын

@@carhart001 Won't be watching, but totally agree.

I remember VS in the mid nineties. It was so elegant and they played classical music in the store. Classy lingerie hung in wooden wardrobes with lacy panties in bureau drawers. Even the bath and body had bottles with calligraphy writing. PINK made it trashy, marketed it to teens, and it has been a demise ever since.😢

@1282louise

7 ай бұрын

Pink was just one section and it made it fun too. They still.had the classical lingerie. Look at 2008, the black tie section was very classical.

@09355974180

7 ай бұрын

woooow

The curvy girls’ responses are spot on! I’ve always been bigger than most girls. Taller and curvier. Even in high school I didn’t look even close to the heroine chic models. I stopped shopping at VS because they didn’t sell anything big enough. I think they only went up to a size XL which fit like a medium. But the places that had sizes that fit were not flattering and didn’t made you feel good about yourself. As I’m on my health and fitness journey now I get the not normalizing unhealthy lifestyles but fitness takes time and I believe it’s important to feel confident in the body you’re currently, while working towards your goals

Coming from a plus size person myself , I hate whenever a brand tries to be inclusive they make everything ugly like why can’t it still be beautiful! It’s like they’re deliberately trying to make them look ugly just because they should include them. It’s ridiculous! And I agree they’re supposed to earn the wings and should be wearing what they sell.

"Sad Ai body-positive Tinkerbell." Brett's descriptions of those outfits are very witty.

I worked for VS from 2010 to 2016 at the store level(best retail job I've ever had). The creativity and designs were over the top and I loved it lol! The story that they would tell with the colors and theme of each launch was wonderful. The best was working shipment and seeing all the new product (and spending a portion of my check lol). It was a great company to be apart of. Especially the Holiday launches and floor sets! PINK Nation events, the PINK dogs, VIP Only Shopping events. Back then, the creativity made people want to come in and shop. Sadly, now I go past their stores and I'm like...eh. Bring back the Angels and the fun!

@emilyarruda2562

7 ай бұрын

ugh the free pink dogs with a $100 dollar purchase😢what a time to be alive!

I always looked forward to the THEMES!! It used to be so fun and creative. From the runway to the lingerie. You were able to appreciate their hard work, the performers, the beautiful models and the celebrity guests in the audience. The annual fashion show was something to look forward to. I will watch the old fashion shows on KZread 😂

the fact that they labeled all the dissatisfactory opinions as hate speech makes me laugh so hard.

Never understood why someone needs to see someone who "looks like them" in the media to feel represented or feel like they can relate to them. As a scrawny ten year old boy I was able to feel a deep draw to many character in the media of old (both real and fictional) that were huge, ripped and superhuman. For me it was Goku, Piccolo & Vegeta from Dragon Ball Z. I know that people have their opinions about anime and say what you will, but they exemplified the "never give up" attitude. As a kid who played sports I was inspired by them to believe that so long as I wanted something bad enough and "trained" hard enough I could achieve my goals and become the best version of myself. Again these character were fictional and for those who do not know, one was a even green skinned demon alien from another planet. Doesn't get any less "looks like me" than that imo.

@kallemetsahalme5701

7 ай бұрын

ding! you said the magic word "trained". you could also have used the word "work" or "effort" or "try". the people who had issue with where this started are the ones who as a yoda would say "do not, there is no try, youre right as you are" like it would be so darn empowering to see myself in a spiderman movie poster as spiderman. with a belly showing. with hunched posture and probably scratching my ass

@finalphormphil8241

7 ай бұрын

@@RoseyVamp exactly!

@finalphormphil8241

7 ай бұрын

@@kallemetsahalme5701 Extremely inspiring! Lol

@finalphormphil8241

7 ай бұрын

@mystika you replied about society only valuing you if you looked like Goku. Funny enough I guess you deleted your reply to this comment. The point wasn't about whether I felt valued if I LOOKED like Goku it was the fact that even though I didn't look like Goku I could still connect to him because of his values and principles. In fact his character pushed me to be a better soccer player as a child. Instead of training to get bigger, I took it as training to become more skilled. Either way the point is about how he had a positive impact on people regardless of skin color or gender despite what western society pushed and continues to push.

@niki_0107

7 ай бұрын

​@@RoseyVampman, *I* look up to deku and I'm a 20 yo college student. he's honestly kind of a boring protagonist, but he has so much drive!

Why I feel like VS is actually telling us, "this is what woke and feminist has made this world become", because if they do show their usual vibes, they would get blasted with fat shaming and etc. Either way, they're gonna get hit with backlash.

@laser__unicorn

7 ай бұрын

You know what the funny thing is, that the people accused of having "unrealistic bodies"...are real fcking people! Where I live, I see VS body types on display at the beach every day... Meanwhile, the woke mob attacking them is majority made of people so fat that you can barely believe a human could be like that. The irony.

@sierrag4221

7 ай бұрын

I agree. I think they made it look dreary on purpose.

@TeenageDirtbag8

7 ай бұрын

stop saying woke and feminist you do not know what those words mean

@chickennuggiepartygirl9749

7 ай бұрын

@@TeenageDirtbag8 you clearly are a teenager arent you. Do you not get tired of being so angry?

@Deridus

7 ай бұрын

They did do this on purpose. They want to drag us down to their spiteful level.

They totally screwed up with this one. It's just like you said, we want something to aspire to be. I want to say thanks for always being so straightforward. I appreciate your speaking ability and find your videos very relatable. I also watch another youtuber who does similar reaction videos (and has most of the same views as you), her name is Amala Ekpunobi and I think it would be super cool if you two could sort of do a duet video. I am subscribed to your channel and am always looking forward to your next video. Thanks again for your amazing work!

Brett’s channel is so comforting to me.

If I did not already know what Victoria Secret was, I’d assume it’d be a costume store that specializes in wings.

"I don't think Victoria could keep a secret that big," Al Bundy.

Why couldn't we just have exactly what we had with different body types on the runway ?? I want glitter and poodles and magic damn it

Their response is exactly why their fashion show was cancelled in the first place! Take the criticism and go back to the drawing board. I remember having watch parties at my house for the VS show and Miss Universe pageant in the past. All the girls would come over, we'd have snacks, drinks and a good time! Both programs has significantly changed of the years and there's no longer any excitement for it anymore.

I miss the old VS! The whole reason we loved their fashion show was BECAUSE we aspired to be them! I’m so over the overly constructed, over pushed body positive movement that’s plastered and pandered to everyone with EVERY single clothing line. Over it! Bring back the old VS Angels 😇

@kp4911

7 ай бұрын

But those "aspirational" models were forced to literally starve themselves before the show. They couldn't even drink water except in minute amounts so they didn't die. Their diets before the show were extremely dangerous and if they deviated, they were fired. Read up on what they went through just to be in that stupid show. If they bring it back, at least don't make the models suffer.

@JiraiyaSama86

7 ай бұрын

They really have lost their sense of conducting good business. They forget that the customer is always right. Lol

@i_dontreallycare

7 ай бұрын

​@kp4911 stop. They chose to be there. Most of the models love/loved to walk as an angel. It was a honor for a woman to become a vs angel, bc not everyone can be a vs angel. It's an iconic event that most of us loved.

@RaveDaver

7 ай бұрын

​@@i_dontreallycareSo true, Models can chose the "easy" route to fame.The kind of fame they won't lower themselves to.(Adult Content) Being a model is their own goal and no-one forces them to be one.

@unapologeticpatriot6504

7 ай бұрын

@@kp4911 I totally get you (in a sense) models shouldn’t be starved and being super skinny isn’t necessarily the beauty standard. (But they do chose this path). But obesity on the other hand is a damn health problem. And is killing countless of people and it should not be promoted to be aspired to.

Victoria’s Secret peaked in the early 2000s.

@kennycraven2648

7 ай бұрын

And then the me too movement started.

"Sad AI body positive tinker bell" is my new favorite phrase now thank you

I was feeling like I was the only one who missed the old VS, so happy to hear others feel the same :)

I was half expecting to see models who looked like Sam Smith at the Grammies

May I mention that some of the original modes were mothers? And as someone who has brought 3 soon to 4 babies into the world through my body, I know first hand how hard it is to get back in shape afterwards. And when I saw(to name a few) Lily Aldridge, Doutzen Kroes, Candace Swanapole and Adriana Lima,who walked I believe like less than two months after giving birth, *wow*, strutting down that runway ,I felt like despite that im not a tall beautiful modlle and they dont know me from adam, we ALL had something in common. Motherhood. By thier self discipline and determination, they set examples for young women that motherhood, despite what everyone preaches, truly doesn't ruin your life or your body. It just takes time and and hard work. ***To me, they modeled so much more than lingerie. And I'm sure thousands of other mothers around the world would agree with me.***

@meriambenouis5318

7 ай бұрын

I agree, you explained it well. the motherhood aspect humanises them. Even though their lifestyle allows and even pushes them to eat right and exercise to achieve quick results, it's still praise worthy. I'm a mother of 2, and despite never putting on much weight throughout my life, I'd bounced back to pre pregnancy body about 6 months PP by just breastfeeding. I still suffer from pelvic pain 2.5 years on now, and it's shifted my thought process. I'd do anything to feel strong and less achy, 'looking good' isn't my priority as it was before kids. That's the goal now. But it's hard with 2 little boys keeping me busy😅

@RanchMamaFox

7 ай бұрын

I agree 100%! I've birthed 5 babies, and got my body back in shape. It was inspiring to see these beautiful women back on the runway after having babies... a testament to the beauty, grace, and resilience of real women. I quit buying from VS many years ago... they used to sell classy clothing that I'd wear to work when I had a professional job, hell my mother used to order clothes from their mail order catalog way before the internet... but they quit selling those and only carried slouchy sorority girl dorm-wear and crazy uncomfortable lingerie. It felt like they were pandering to college girls using daddy's credit card and not real grown ass women. Zero respect for what a mature woman wants to feel attractive, let alone a mother... like their lingerie can support women getting knocked up, but nothing after that. All these bras, you'd think they could make a nursing bra that doesn't look frumpy and sad, but no. You'd think they would carry nice clothing like they used to, but no. Now it's just cramming unhealthy images down our throats and calling it "hate speech" when we don't like it.

No one likes ugly. Not even ugly likes ugly. Just the way human beings really are when we are honest. Honesty is the best policy.

Brett looks unhinged in the thumbnail, I love it!!😂

Sick of the "diversity and cultural enrichment" crap. Kind of weird how we were doing perfectly fine without it for thousands of years and now they insist that it makes us better to muddy our own culture.

“Sad Ai body positive Tinker Bell” killed me! Love you Brett!

“Sad ai body positive Tinker Bell” had me cracking up ngl

I love your shirt Brett - especially with the vest💁🏻‍♀️

Then: Victoria's secret angels Now: Victoria's... uh... not so secret angels

Bill Burr said it the best, "Somehow regular looking women somehow mind fucked advertising to get beautiful women off of billboards"

Let’s bffr. VS was never known for inclusivity and there’s not really anything wrong w that. They were selling “the fantasy” they were established to be glamorous. When fenty came out their thing was inclusivity and it was executed very well. Not everything has to be inclusive especially when that wasn’t what ur known for

"The Witcher wings and the wife beater tanktops" 😂😂😂😂😂

At this point it's not even the fact that they bent the knee and started including overweight models. It's the fact that they're trying to make everyone as bad look as possible. Whoever had the idea to put these models in street clothes and clothes 2 sizes too small should be fired

Their shareholders also have an opinion on how they are doing. Their 52 week High was $48.16 per share. Today's price is just $17.18 per share. Dang near a 50% drop in the company's value in one year. Imagine what that number is going to be when the general public gets to see, based on the preview, this massive public failure of a show. VS might not have to fire their creative team. VS itself is getting fired.

brands need to realize that they arent ever going to please every single person and just stick with what a majority of the public liked

"Sad AI Body Positive Tinkerbell" is the perfect way to sum it up Brett lol

The VS fashion shows of yore were otherworldly perfection and glam. What’s wrong with fantasy? That was part of the fun.

Victoria’s Secret is supposed to be a standard of beauty. Beautiful women in beautifully made clothing and underwear. Why did the libs have to take that away from us? We love aspirations, we love colors and happiness. Why does the bland kid win over the colorful and ambitious? Gosh freaking darn it!

"sad AI body positivity tinkerbell" i love that

"It's giving little Bo Peep, Christmastime, Marie Antoinette, but also not." "Sad AI body positive Tinker Belle" LOL

The original models were beautiful & inspiring. Might I add that they came in different body types & colors but were still beautiful. The 'everyone is beautiful' & body positivity movement is dangerous. Not everyone is beautiful like not everyone is smart or talented.

@m4tta

7 ай бұрын

i loved how the original models had a gazelle vibe, slender and elegant

@joylindadichamounix

7 ай бұрын

Exactly! Cute white cat! @@m4tta

@liannemarie2504

7 ай бұрын

​@@m4ttaexactly!! I always aspired to be the elegant, ballerina type. They always seemed so elegant and graceful. Now, at 36, I've worked hard to get in shape and want some beautiful things but I'm not going to VS. I worked hard for this body and I want beautiful things that make me feel like an elegant lady!!!

@TeenageDirtbag8

7 ай бұрын

true It is a fact some people are ugly. I am not ugly or good looking but I own it

@joylindadichamounix

7 ай бұрын

Everyone should find something that they like about their looks & feel good about it but they also need to understand that cleft palates & double chins are not what the public wants to see in Victoria's Secret.@@TeenageDirtbag8

Never even watched a single episode of the old Victoria Secret fashion show but this “rebrand” just looks horrible

There was a research that comparing to 30 years ago, we are indeed using more monochromatic patterns. In interior , car colours, small utensils and etc. ...

First they take away the show because they refused to add body inclusivity, then they bring the show back with what the consumers "want" but do it so distastefully. Almost saying "see we can't cater to every body type and we're trying our best" 🙄 Also most (I'm not saying all) women aspire to be thin and I bet the hate comments from back then were all from women with low self esteem that would constantly compare themselves and overload on the pressures of the beauty standards from social media. I am not thin myself so I'm allowed to say that last part lol.

I'm shocked they don't have Dylan Mulvaney in it! Ahhh, just wishing for the grand ol Tyra, Naomi, Helena and Giselle days!!

@kristinazubic9669

7 ай бұрын

I’m old enough to remember the Stephanie and Frederique days.

@msairs

7 ай бұрын

Giselle doesnt fit in that category though. she's has a beautiful face but she looks like a kid. lol

@Smalls3854

7 ай бұрын

@@msairs Giselle Bundchen doesn't look like a kid!

The new Victoria’s Secret campaign looks like a low budget Victoria’s Secret cosplay🤣

There’s a difference between hate speech and speech that you hate Victoria secret 😂

Maybe they should have a variety of body types including some naturally thin, curvy, overweight, and athletic gym girlies so everyone feels represented. I don’t want to see just paper thin or only obese models. They could show various body types in flattering outfits that make everyone feel beautiful.

You can be inclusive and welcoming to a diversity of people and still call out unhealthy actions and ugly looks. The real issue is trying to find a helpful way to encourage people to be better than their current state and to strive to get them to strive to that goal out of their own free will. Just because you accept someone for who they are does not mean that you have to support it and I feel like a lot of these large companies fail to understand that.

@TeenageDirtbag8

7 ай бұрын

ok go off

@shauhame6364

7 ай бұрын

What a superb repartee, I am moved. I'm sure you taught him a good lesson@@TeenageDirtbag8

One of my stepparents worked as their lead fabric production specialist and told me that "They've ruined their brand. I don't what the hell they think they're doing."

Sad AI body postivite tinkerbell, had me in stitches brett 😂

“Sad Ai body positive Tinkerbell” 🤣🤣 Brett I am dead