The HARSH Truth About IQ | Jordan Peterson
Jordan Peterson describes the harsh truth about IQ that we avoid. He talks about why it is difficult for people to accept IQ. He discusses the importance of IQ, the implication of IQ for learning, the effects of IQ on the economy, job market, and getting hired. He also mentions the consequences of neglecting IQ for the society.
⚪️ ⚪️ ⚪️ This short is extracted from Intimations of Creativity | Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman | The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast - S4: E31. #shorts
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✏️ Jordan Bernt Peterson is a Canadian professor of psychology, clinical psychologist, KZread personality, and author. Born and raised in Alberta, Peterson obtained bachelor's degrees in political science and psychology from the University of Alberta and a PhD in clinical psychology from McGill University. After teaching and research at Harvard University, he returned to Canada in 1998 to permanently join the faculty of psychology at the University of Toronto. In 1999, he published his first book, Maps of Meaning: The Architecture of Belief, which became the basis for many of his subsequent lectures. The book combined information from psychology, mythology, religion, literature, philosophy, and neuroscience to analyze systems of belief and meaning.
He put his clinical practice and teaching duties on hold by 2018, when he published his second book, 12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos. This book became a bestseller in several countries. Throughout 2019 and 2020, Peterson's work was obstructed by health problems in the aftermath of a severe benzodiazepine withdrawal syndrome. In 2021, he published his third book, Beyond Order: 12 More Rules for Life, and returned to active podcasting.
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“The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts, while the stupid ones are full of confidence.” ― Charles Bukowski
@jordonm5675
4 ай бұрын
OK, but that dude had contempt for humans and he beat his girlfriend on camera.
@nikkid4890
4 ай бұрын
@@jordonm5675How does that change what he said? The two have no relationship and are not mutually exclusive. Your argument is fallacious
@Myles943
4 ай бұрын
Platitude but true
@RG-tt1ru
3 ай бұрын
Odious writer.
@yokkie2846
3 ай бұрын
This is too generalised & lacking context. I wish others didn't see this quote a lot. Yes, intelligent people have the love of learning. That's what makes them feel this way. The insecure ones compare themselves to people that they think are more intelligent than them.They are also worried about being 'right enough' because of their fear of failure. Some 'stupid people' (in this sense) I've met also have had a lot of doubt in what they knew & were willing to be enlightened. They were the more humble ones. His quote can be misinterpreted as, 'Oh, this Charles something guy said that having healthy confidence is a bad thing. Now, I'm a confident person. Does that mean I'm dumb...?' NO. This quote lacks the context. It's good to have confidence & courage. Being the type of person who is confident in themselves, courageous to make the right decisions & willing to learn is how you'll get lots out of whatever you do.
A high iq is not a free ticket to success and a low iq is not a death sentence it’s so much more nuanced some people have completely given up on themselves because they have a low iq
@Ivan-vw1bw
Жыл бұрын
I have an IQ somewhat below 85, and the simplist jobs take me a while to learn.
@therealmarkzuckerberg
Жыл бұрын
@@Ivan-vw1bwThen own those simple jobs bro😎
@Ivan-vw1bw
Жыл бұрын
@@therealmarkzuckerberg No. I should probably just rope myself.
@derbaeckerhatnichtauf
Жыл бұрын
Yes! I fully agree
@WardellChrysanthos14
Жыл бұрын
Agree, I have an IQ of 128 and my life's really hard lol
Iq 147 here (verified by German mensa) My story: child of immigrants, sister and brother never had an iq test but definitely highly intelligent. Brother is a CTO In artificial intelligence and sister speaks 7 languages working for the government Then, there is me: former military, mma practitioner, got prices in school for art projects and studied economics UNTIL a life event happened: sadly I am very emotional and when my girlfriend cheated on me, my world broke down. Gave up my studies, fell in a deep hole and never realy got up because I lost my interest in participating in the world. I'm currently working half time as a call center agent and feel like an absolute loser especially in family gatherings when my brother and sister are there. I feel like the black sheep amongst lions with golden manes. Conclusion: your iq doesn't matter if you are an emotional train wreck
@bruhmoment748
6 ай бұрын
You misspelt "prizes".
@thegoldentree6913
6 ай бұрын
@@bruhmoment748 Wow thats what you have to say.
@thegoldentree6913
6 ай бұрын
Thing is, emotional state can change or improve while IQ is locked. your IQ is so high that you probably hardly try in your current job while even an average person probably has to try hard.
@barbie3139
6 ай бұрын
Please consider going to counseling and, if you can't afford that, a support group like celebrate recovery. It's not just for addicts. It's for those who are divorced, widowed, etc too and those who are co-dependent. You owe it to yourself to do so. You didn't cheat, please don't blame yourself. God loves you.
@bruhmoment748
6 ай бұрын
@@thegoldentree6913 yes i only have an iq of 100 and therefore i cannot comprehend a simple paragraph and thus have to resort to finding spelling errors to indicate my superiority over others as my biology dictates me to do so 😔
Lol, remebering when I said this in class and my teacher thought I was being offensive. I was confused
@Nic7320
2 жыл бұрын
To a teacher, it *is* offensive, because it violates their assumptions that students can achieve goals if they just try harder. The reality is different.
@grimsobad8545
2 жыл бұрын
@@Nic7320 nice excuse buddy
@onizushi6520
2 жыл бұрын
@@grimsobad8545 what was the excuse?
@yodamaster757
Жыл бұрын
@@grimsobad8545 - Huh?
@resentfulandvengeful2193
Жыл бұрын
@@grimsobad8545 I'm pretty sure you have low iq
I have a low IQ, but I feel like it helps me, because I know that in order to compete with smart people I need to be humble, not just by devouring knowledge like a maniac, but constantly criticizing myself so I’m always getting better.
@youssefaly7067
Жыл бұрын
Same
@Imanol_Fdez_De_Arroyabe_Zabala
Жыл бұрын
Cope
@therealmarkzuckerberg
Жыл бұрын
W man if you’re self aware you’re already better then 90% of people
@UnknownUser-nu8ny
Жыл бұрын
You would be able to do this despite iq. There are people who are more introspective then you and have a high iq so this is a non factor argument
@andreasfoerster772
Жыл бұрын
@@UnknownUser-nu8ny It’s not an argument in favour of one or the other in an objective sense. I’m saying precisely what you are: that given my personality, my low IQ is offset by the humility that it necessarily brings about. So I’m saying that having this mindset can help anyone, regardless of their IQ, if that makes more sense
Having higher IQ is like having a good bodybuilding genes. Like broad and thick bone structure. But it does not mean everything. You need enthusiasm, ambition and hard work as well.
@user-wq9mw2xz3j
4 ай бұрын
nah. its like having muscles. its not something you are born with. just some has easier to train it. but really its just knowledge and ability to see patterns- both if which you can train
@user-xo3wo9zq2v
4 ай бұрын
@@user-wq9mw2xz3j not at all. IQ is something you are born with. Even most of the academics acknowledge that IQ and genes play the most important factor in being successful. Ofcourse, you can reach some kind of level, but in order to be the top 1%, you need genetic advantages.
@zesky6654
3 ай бұрын
@user-xo3wo9zq2v it also changes based on external factors, and yet people treat is as a constant. It will never be fully expored because it will hurt the feeling of mediocre people who want to portray themselves as special based on arbitrary nonsense.
@MrAmhara
2 ай бұрын
The point is low IQ people literally cannot reliably do certain jobs. We are not talking about potential.
@mrguy3746
27 күн бұрын
@@user-wq9mw2xz3jIQ is absolutely something you are born with
Was forced to take one in middle school to qualify for gifted program in one of the high schools that I was considering. Said program had 3 possible ways of entering. 1. Certain IQ which guarantees you will stay in the program no matter what 2. Middle school grades which get you in, but don’t guarantee you stay, and 3. Exemplary performance in your first year at high school in rather unproductive non advanced classes. While the effect of IQ is clearly real, it can also give one a sense of arrogance and set you up for failure later on in life as one is never forced to work hard since classes remain easy until midway through university. I experienced this myself and received a rather nasty shock in an aerospace class in which I couldn’t just understand the material instantly after reading over the textbook once. Iq can be a double edged sword for sure.
@johnathanmatthews9487
Жыл бұрын
I feel that. I got into gifted classes at a young age and didn't really have to work that hard to memorize or understand most things. I was behind emotionally and socially, though. Eventually my arrogance, laziness, and mental health caught up to me. I got into harder classes for myself, and didn't have the drive to press through. Now, I'm middle aged, work a crap job, and find it difficult to think in depth about many things.
@DistinctMale
11 ай бұрын
Thank you two for your honesty.. Both comments were educational in a sense.
@Rosemary46840
9 ай бұрын
I disagree that having a high IQ means you have better memory or have to work less hard, I have an IQ higher than over 99% of the population and have still had to work harder than most due to emotional and mental trauma, ADD, learning style, bad memory, socioeconomic class starting out, minority statuses, etc. I would say it's moreso a double edged sword because of constantly being surrounded by dumb people.
@ihatemotionblur_3255
8 ай бұрын
@@Rosemary46840So its not your fault but everyone around you 😂😂😂 do you read what you type dude??
@Imforpedophilerights
28 күн бұрын
@@Rosemary46840bro is NOT a god among men 💀
As a guy with IQ 85, and employment in a public company, I think I am doing just fine. I earn decently and I have a lot of spare time to enjoy in my collection of classic music LP's and dvelve into the depths of Nitsche, Hegel, Jung and Dostoyevsky.
My father was an educational counselor in a prison. Sadly, he said about 90% were not capable of making it on the outside. He tried to help the smarter 10%. IQ absolutely matters in this tough society. JP is correct in stating liberals think any baby can do anything. Nope. I do think headstart programs can help.
@emilyknowlton8602
Жыл бұрын
Well said.
@southernbelladonna78
Жыл бұрын
It's not about every single person being able to be meaningfully employed, it's about most that aren't can be.
@bashhelmet669
Жыл бұрын
damn so i have a low iq. What do i do just kms???
@southernbelladonna78
Жыл бұрын
@@bashhelmet669 are you sure, lol? What's your IQ? You're joking?
@seriousguy2160
Жыл бұрын
@@bashhelmet669 Blame God for your inadequacy and shoot up a school before killing yourself
Having a higher IQ is a huge advantage, granted you don't have emotional or psychological hindrances like a personality disorder. And the advantage of IQ compounds as you get older too...more wealth, better health, better relationships 👏
@amiramir-qg7xv
Жыл бұрын
this is completely inaccurate, some people suffer from severe mental and psychiatric conditions yet are creative and proudly gifted
@whatdoinamethischannel9749
Жыл бұрын
That's cap btw. People with a higher iq do have emotional and psychological hindrances we are human too it's just we handle it better, we don't let that get in our way because it's an unnecessary waste of time
@amiramir-qg7xv
Жыл бұрын
@@whatdoinamethischannel9749 that’s exactly what the op was implying… nobody ever said we don’t go through turmoil the points was about weather it affects or maims us and it most certainly can
@keltecdan
Жыл бұрын
@@amiramir-qg7xv He stated in his comment granted that you don’t have emotional or psychological hindrances. People that have high IQ’s have a massive advantage in life. I’ve seen it all my life however it’s what you do with that gift that will determine how good you will have it in life with other factors playing into it as well.
@keltecdan
Жыл бұрын
@Nat I suffer the same thing but without the high IQ. I believe my IQ is in the mid to high 80’s. I’ve really started to work on my social anxiety and depression. I’m determined to conquer it which is not easy. I’m so much better today than I was in my early 20’s. Keep pushing yourself and you will overcome it little by little each day.
I've learned 3 things in this world are more important to "get ahead": 1. Common sense, 2. Humility and 3. Social Skills.
@sandyyee525
3 ай бұрын
Agreed
@Dystopia2024
Ай бұрын
In other words, wisdom.
I know lots of successful average IQ people, usually through a business that they worked hard on it and were thoughtful enough to save enough and invest it either in houses or just to improve their business. The beauty of it, is that you don't have be a genius to have a descent life but it does take consistency and good habits.
@alextrifs
Жыл бұрын
I got 107 and adhd so wish me luck friend 👍
@nancyduenas4522
Жыл бұрын
@@alextrifs damn, god bless u bro
@alexraymond-en4dd
Жыл бұрын
@libsdrawingmuseum2553 Not really, when you take IQ tests your score can range by 10 points easily. I scored 115 on my first one, and only 97 on second.
@generalgrievous3133
11 ай бұрын
@libsdrawingmuseum2553deviations from the average (100) are usually what matter in an IQ test, a 10 point difference is noticable but not life-changing
@ambern.9887
6 ай бұрын
Yeah not everyone can even do that though I couldn't.
I have an IQ of 75 I ran three businesses became a millionaire at 30 and am now retired at 54 most of my high IQ friends are still working
@billybobmonroe3166
3 ай бұрын
You probably have extremely high social intelligence, and a high amount of tenacity.
@keviniverson2835
3 ай бұрын
I think you could be right on that people still call me dumb after all I have achieved
@JordanBPeterson
2 ай бұрын
You were likely mismeasured
@billybobmonroe3166
2 ай бұрын
@@keviniverson2835 Jordan Peterson just replied to your comment, one of 2 comments he's ever left on his channel ever. That's insane literally one in less than a million chance of that.
@Thekiko2501
2 ай бұрын
There is something that escapes the realm of iq i suspect that correlates with sucess. I’ve read it refered to as a spiritual imune system, most intelligent people are bad a trailblazing or independent action and thus just follow the heard, that’s why they all are still employed. I suspect you must be one of these outliers
It's absolutely true that not everybody can be trained to do anything, but what's inconceivable about the view that there's a job for everybody who is willing to put forth an effort. It's true that not every job would be as lucrative or as socially beneficial as the next, but there is always somebody who can do it.
He's very correct with these statements.. I have a low IQ, reality and life makes no sense, I can hear something 30 times and still not understand it, doing anything in life of any value seems almost impossible and things like Algebra seem impossible to grasp.
@blueskinblonde7230
Жыл бұрын
I have a very low IQ aswell people ususaly nag me by my writing skills because they are crap but i tend to write alot more than others on reddit unless there is a high IQ person who can explain his mathetmatical and logistic thinking linguistically which brings alot of explinations and nnumbers formulas + that would make someone such as me lowIQ by comparison shit. Im unable to write anything creativity, i dont see faulty logic, i cannot understand numbers , i dont have biopolar disorder or have Schizophrenia and schizo personality disorder which would make me seem less of a weirdo and more of a knoleedgable peraon in mania. Havent seen soneone having non verbal manic episode atleast on reddit, the word manic probbly was originsted as a cussing word. Someone no verbal and manic is callrd a retard or disabled autisitc perosn, someone with verbal abilities that when conversing with soneone is caled a maniac "crazy person" basically
@G0dOfwizdOm
11 ай бұрын
Same bro 😪
@Chi-cd3ke
10 ай бұрын
Play to your strengths. Are you good with people? Try working in sales. If you have trouble understanding things, find a career that's repetitive and get good at it.
@cheeesysandwich
10 ай бұрын
what in algebra would you say is impossible for you to grasp? is it solving for x or?
@OIVAriini1
6 ай бұрын
I think its more likely that you might have ADHD or some other learning dissability. Or have you really done a proper IQ test?
IQ mostly dictates the time necessary to learn.
I've a high IQ and haven't accomplished much besides a Bachelor's Degree and sa Master's Degree. Maintaining a job is a complex adventure for me due to several trauma and mental conditions. So, IQ isn't everything.
@Rflowers321
6 ай бұрын
I have a high IQ and mental health and trauma conditions got in the way of me staying in employment and completing several degrees I started. I’ve seen people with lower IQs surpass me in these areas, so I similarly acknowledge that it’s really not everything. Furthermore, issues such as anxiety are very common in those with high IQs
@user-sd1fp2gd3y
5 ай бұрын
I don't have a high IQ. I'm not saying I am dumb, but I think my sadness is found in the fact that your understanding of complex ideas brings color and texture to your world. A world that no matter how I may try to will never see.
@nonab7692
4 ай бұрын
@@user-sd1fp2gd3y same thought. They seem to notice things we can't see or understand.. I don't know if my IQ is high or low but I used to get fascinated by the idea of seeing the world differently.
@joex9865
3 ай бұрын
Think how difficult it would be with all those issues and a low iq
@jd88080
2 ай бұрын
@@user-sd1fp2gd3y It's okay. We could be better off not knowing too much.
Well, big surprise.., from the very beginning of my educational career, I was struggling giving correct answers to questions in school. Abstract thought experiments or scenarios were not difficult for me, but the constant overthinking (perhaps partly due to my ADHD) really slowed me down and still does to this day. I'm still learning to adapt to this society and its patterns.
I always tro to have immense compassion and patience with people who need things to be explained over and over again, because I know it's not their fault
I used to think that low iq was a huge hindrance of success but conciousness is more important. People can be taught and helped through the stages of development to become more skillful and mindful
@King-js7nw
Жыл бұрын
You read that on google you creep and you didn’t even spell the word consciousness correctly 😂😂 your just a low iq weirdo who’s mad you score average in an iq test ;). You can’t even spell words correctly bro hehehe it’s “consciousness”hehehe
@olivergreen1520
Жыл бұрын
Yes. Of course. But consciousness requires a fair degree of intelligence and awareness. Someone with a low iq can be wise but it will be almost impossible for them to have the same level of consciousness as someone with an average iq or high iq. This makes it extremely hard for people with a low iq to live and work productively. So their best bet is to aim lower or average or they won’t aim at all.
@mike6447
Жыл бұрын
@@King-js7nw this isn’t the high iq own you think it is
@New-Moderate
Жыл бұрын
Conciousness? You sure you don’t mean conscientiousness?
@brennenhrebeniuk9661
Жыл бұрын
@Cape to Cairo yep I meant consciousness in relation to awareness and mindfulness, specifically in relation to spiral dynamics, which is a model that seeks to quantify or categorize levels of human consciousness. Conscientiousness, however, is most prevalent in stage blue and Orange of spiral dynamics as those are the stages of Hardwork and material solvency beyond the selfish domineering ambition of red and the Communal familial loyalty of magenta.
I have a very average iq…rude awakening but indeed needed
@AwesomeDude272
Жыл бұрын
Same:///
@rainmanj9978
Жыл бұрын
Everyone is smart at something for real
@gamedauhkeke6855
Жыл бұрын
@@rainmanj9978 not everyone
@gamedauhkeke6855
Жыл бұрын
@@rainmanj9978 yeah i don't know about being complex. But i do know from personal experience that not everyone is smart at something. Some people aren't good at anything. It's harsh but is true
@user-ev3le1hf5e
Жыл бұрын
Don’t listen to this bullshit , iq is man made divide and conquer tactic. Used to change your perception of your own cognitive capabilities, believe nothing unless you truly have an undeniable understanding of the topic
IQ of 139. The IQ test is a great way to measure a person’s ability to utilize rational thought and solve unfamiliar problems quickly. Yet this does not mean than we are intelligent in every facet of life as every human has their unique strengths and weaknesses. IQ tests show us our potential for learning and developing particular styles and forms of intelligences. Yet naturally we will still find ourselves only capable of being advanced in specific areas of intelligence. For example, I have high creative thinking, great long-term factual memory, and can find many patterns and connections between various pieces of information. This makes me great with tech and media projects, video games, writing, and other creative projects. But I can’t work with woodworking or construction stuff without hurting myself no matter how safe I try to be, and I easily give up with calculus, physics, and sheet music since I hate complex symbol systems. Everything else is normal; a few above average, most things average, and some that I’m just terrible at. So yeah. IQ is a great way to determine how capable we are in general with rationality and complex problems, but it doesn’t mean we’re great at everything or don’t need to work hard to develop talents and skills.
@BloodOrangeSun
7 ай бұрын
Same boat and I agree. EQ is more important. High IQ is neither indicative of success nor is it productive in the presence of mental illness. I was failing classes before medication and genuinely believed I had suddenly become an idiot. I'm much better now but still depressed. What has intelligence done for me aside make me realize there's no point to existing except the little dopamine boosts. None of us will matter in 100-200 years. What's even the point aside from prolonging the existence of the human race. I'll go back to living in a perpetual existential crisis because all I am is a bunch of quarks and that's all I'll ever be
@colonelradec5956
6 ай бұрын
Nonsense. IQ means everything and your post shows it. If you were less dumb your comment would never have been made. Cause you'd be intelligent enough to realize youran idiot.
@sim4296
4 ай бұрын
Haha, yeah im great at calc, physics, music, art. But if you give me an english paper or make me learn a language, i will fail so badly.
@physics_lover100
4 ай бұрын
I want to figure out my iq but I can't sure. My estimate is over 130 🙄, If I tell you something about my ability, can you help me to estimate my iq accurately? 🤓
@HonestlyHolistic
2 ай бұрын
Can anyone tell me: Is IQ not something one can work on?
Social intelligence is also a huge factor in success.
@MrAmhara
2 ай бұрын
Social skill. Not social intelligence. Besides he is only talking about some people have no place in a higher tech world. They can just flip burgers and pick fruit. Machines will take low IQ jobs. lol
People are people, whether their IQ is low or high. Everyone deserves human rights the same as sick and healthy or really old or really young. Not everyone can be as effective, efficient, and productive as some, but everyone does have a role to fill in being human. We aren't very smart if we can't learn something about being human from those who are not like us.
@thegoldentree6913
6 ай бұрын
One insane problem is that the world is becoming so complex that there are no roles for the low IQ people.
@ziadhulhok
6 ай бұрын
@@thegoldentree6913I dunno what I am supposed to do about this, cry or cope with it
@thegoldentree6913
6 ай бұрын
@@ziadhulhok I would suggest you to cope with it. i suggest you do what anyone would do, regardless of their IQ, to become smarter (maybe not more intelligent but smarter). Improve cognitive skills like verbal and spatial by doing many different exercises such as reading and writing and solving hard complex problems. Physical exercising. especially cardio, to improve your overall health and especially brain health. Mental health. Obviously if you are depressed or ill you are gonna have worse cognitive skills. Try to either solve or improve your mental health. Personally, idk what my IQ is but 3 years ago i was definitely a lot more stupid than i am today because 3 years ago i decided i would do the things above. My life isn't the same since then, its as if my IQ has increased significantly because the skills and knowledge that i have acquired since then have made learning and solving problems a lot easier.
@ziadhulhok
5 ай бұрын
@@thegoldentree6913 Well you are just giving me the vibe that you are far older than me (I am just like 20). And to be fair on I am not super smart dude at all. Like I will have a very hard time doing anything which depends upon abstract stuff (like calculus or quantum physics). Which is kinda funny for me because I am studying electrical engineering and it's pretty damm hard to say so. But still studying it which lot's of people consider it as a crazy thing. But I really didn't care about it by much. Anyway I am already trying to imply what you said for the past few months and I think it's working but the growth is very slow
@thegoldentree6913
5 ай бұрын
@@ziadhulhok I was afraid to respond because i was afraid that revealing my age (19) could demotivate you or something for various reasons😆. I don't remember what my comment was, it appears that it got deleted because i can't find it🤨. If i remember correctly you implied that you have a low IQ. But from your comment i hardly see how that is possible. Someone with a low IQ as far as i understand can't properly study a lot of different hard materials. Calculus and Quantum physics should be difficult enough even for smart people to instantly understand, so like you they have to spend some time to understand everything. If that's what you implied, did you get tested? Did you make the assumption by yourself or did others make it? My comments regarding low IQ are referring to people whose intelligence limit them even to basic things, not just learning university or school material. There are people who have a hard time using a computer, managing their finances, managing life in general, and in extreme cases even doing basic things as eating.
Finally...no annoying background music!!! Wonderful.
@DavidBates-cs9qs
18 күн бұрын
Lol
@Potencyfunction
Күн бұрын
Dementia trait. They cant stand noise.
Videos like this are a chance for everyone to come out of the woodworks and claim they have a 140 IQ lol
@Adultfeetman
10 ай бұрын
It’s just a massive group jerking session most of the time sadly.
@anime_world6684
8 ай бұрын
What coincidence, hours ago I watched arrow, someone had a 140 iq
@Bigleyp
8 ай бұрын
They all take online tests lmao.
@colonelradec5956
6 ай бұрын
Mines closer to 200 actually. And 140 is not that high. It's like average college level shit.
@anime_world6684
6 ай бұрын
@@colonelradec5956 I heard arrogance actually means someone is smart and confident enough to well obviously be smart at stuff so I think you having a 200 iq is successful I just hope your EQ is high enough to dull it down
It is far more interesting how you perform in practical situations than being able to take a pre-defined exam and get a number.
I have an IQ of between 120-124 and I’m pretty anxious and get distracted easily but I’m very curious of knowledge.
@etsubstantiam
Жыл бұрын
Literally me as a kid
@mihagames2757
Жыл бұрын
I have 92 iq and im the first in my class
@camrentoorealcam8437
Жыл бұрын
@@mihagames2757 that’s great. I don’t think IQ is really linked to academics. IQ is just some kind of intelligence. I’m actually not the best in academics, except if they’re subjects I’m really interested in lol. I like learning languages. And read things about physiology and astronomy. But I absolutely don’t like Maths. Right now I’m studying something completely different but I really like it, Communications. 📸📚
@mealovesyu
Жыл бұрын
@@mihagames2757 you must come from some poor country or something lol How old are you, if you don’t mind me asking?
@camrentoorealcam8437
Жыл бұрын
@@mealovesyu why you think so? 🤔
I tend to hover around 125-130. My brother was born with fetal alcohol syndrome, and he doesn't have an IQ above 50. But his street smarts, and his creative smarts are INSANELY high. He can make anything into anything, and sell it. My brother owns his own walking stick company. He makes hand made, BEAUTIFUL, walking sticks. He sometimes spends weeks on just one stick, making sure everything he does it perfect and he sells these sticks for $60+ He can make $1k A DAY sometimes. And he has an IQ of 50. He averages $500 a day. Just because you may not be book smart, doesn't mean you are useless in life. Find what you know best and do it. It can and will make you money. My brother makes more money than most people he know. And he can't even do basic math. But he found that he can pull money out of thin air, and he did it. He saw a stick on the ground once, and said I can make that into something beautiful. You cant measure that intelligent on an IQ test.
@Elvisism
8 ай бұрын
that's beautiful man
@jhp9621
5 ай бұрын
Spending weeks making a stick for 60+ dollars? $500 a day? How does that work?
@ivanstayner8818
5 ай бұрын
@@jhp9621 He has around 200-500 sticks in his workshop either in the process of being made, or are already done. He sells these stick to customers, and he owns 8-10 stalls in quite a few store fronts and shops, so people come in, see one of his sticks and buys them. He doesnt do 1-2 sticks a day. He has a stock pile of ready to sell stick. And he sells the stick in bulk to shops and certian high end customers.
@users4007
3 ай бұрын
@@jhp9621 probably working on multiple sticks at the same time, spending weeks to finish the batch
Life is very complicated. Having a high IQ will help you, but that's about it. It won't do any work for you, it won't make you amount to anything, it won't help at all if you don't use it. A high IQ basically means that you can understand something faster than the average person. If a paragraph takes the average person two readings to fully comprehend, it will take you one. In the time it takes the average person to understand one difficult paragraph, you will have understood two. Notice this doesn't mean that you actually achive anything, nor that a less intelligent person can't do the same things you can by simply working harder.
@thegoldentree6913
6 ай бұрын
So you are saying that everyone can become anything but with different speed and effort? So a person with 90 IQ can become a great physicist with extra time and effort than a person with an IQ of 150? Yea, no. IQ in addition limits you. It defines your capabilities. This is painful because people with low IQs just have to work very hard to achieve things that an average person takes for granted. It also means that we can't achieve our dreams if they are too big.
@georgepantzikis7988
6 ай бұрын
@@thegoldentree6913 That's very obviously not what I said. I said that a high IQ doesn't mean you don't have to work, and that having a lower IQ is not a death sentence. Also, IQ is not something people should consider in their everyday lives, mainly because the limits IQ imposes on people are very specific (and most people aren't interested in areas of life that require high IQs in the first place). Do you want to study physics? A high IQ will undoubtedly help, but most people, with a greater or lesser degree of effort, can do it. Do you want to be a really good physicist, do research on physics, and contribute to the field? Then, yes, you almost certainly need to have a higher than average IQ.
@sim4296
4 ай бұрын
Tbh with a physics or maths degree, at some point you do need to have a gifted level iq to actually understand it. At a certain point an average intelligence cant comprehend the most abstract concepts. This is is not the level of understanding that literally every other interaction requires so you are still pretty much right
I love watching him talk. He takes everything he says so seriously and picks his words carefully
There is one person that I worked with, and tried to train, who I have no idea how he is going to make it through life on his own two feet. And, at his young age, he has a lifetime ahead of him.
Actually its about your lot, during the fifties people accepted their lot and were happy to do so, proud of their position, bus drivers, factory workers, post men, cleaners, now we all feel like failures and struggling with weekly bills, I'm retired with a good pension and happy
@nilenninju4709
Жыл бұрын
Yeess that's our nature as humans, everyone of us has a place in their society, we are different but can definitely have the same faith or beliefs
@necromancer6405
Жыл бұрын
Modern humans have too much dopamine. We struggle to feel happy because we find more 'happiness' with a moment on our phone than doing a good job.
@jerenceaviado7367
7 ай бұрын
The problem is that those positions don’t make any money and can’t live comfortably at all.
@users4007
3 ай бұрын
@@jerenceaviado7367 exactly
I have an iq of 127 but I'm uncomfortable with it. Being Asian-American my parents have used it to tell other parents "our kids are better" or try to tell others when doing arrange marriages. I hated them doing that. The biggest thing I hated was seeing the difference my IQ was compared to friends. I felt bad for them and was feelings down thinking i might make them feel idiotic.
@elijahsesi4755
11 ай бұрын
Lol, theyll prolly end up more successful than you so stop feeling sorry for em, work on yourself.
@JS-jr1fo
9 ай бұрын
127 is very good… Idk if its worth bragging about at that number its kind of a strange flex
@sim4296
4 ай бұрын
Just always remember that your friends are just as much a human as you and i feel that perspective carries over to your interactions with them. Also try not talk about exact scores you get in tests and what you find easy around your friends, i find that just alienates them
@amanekaze
4 ай бұрын
You know, even with 127 iq, you're basically fine (compared to me, I have 92 IQ since I took the mensa test, I was a bit devastated because I thought I'm an low average and I found out my country's common iq is 89... That's the low average, so I guess you can call me the middle average then 😅) I have so many mental health problems, but even so, I rather focus on healing myself before doing my competitive jobs. I usually do writing and music related
@BabyMessi_
3 ай бұрын
It’s very obvious to see if someone is lying. Iq is based on a bell curve, thus 100 is the mean. My skepticism is supported by the fact that everyone in a comment section claims to fall 1-2 standard deviations from 100.
I think part of this problem is the environment, enforcing a one size fit all standard education, thinking there is a one size fit all neurotypical brain type, a lack of exposure to new experiences, especially intrinsic meaning and purpose, lack of nutrition etc.
I'm glad to see Jordan addressing this. I think there is an inversion in our programming. Socrates, Plato or one of those guys said, "there are people who can see, people who can see when shown, and people who cannot see." The "self-evident" truth that we are all created equalled is really not a self-evident truth. It's more accurate that our value among our kind and everything, sentient and nonsentient in the world, is equal in sharing with all things the inherent right to exist as we are created. We are all NOT created equally and ergo applying the same guardrails and expectations and so forth on everyone equally is a groteque misinterpretation of this sentiment. Prior to Empire sweeping us into concrete piles of disconnected parts with no purpose and no passions, we organized ourselves into small ()ish collectives with complex social hierarchies in which we existed peacefully for many millenia, in which everyone had a place set for them from cradle to grave and would be employed and occupied based on whatever existing proclivities each individual exhibited. Instead, school is essentially an occupation of the mind. A 'denial of service' attack on the cognitive mind, and an assassination on the creative impulse within. We were never meant to have to compare ourselves to rapidly and constantly shifting social norms. Group of young folks need to band together based on common ground, and raise brood of children in a culturally sterile environment at least until they lose their milk teeth. Those 7 to 8 years of hypnogogic trance is when we unpack the particular facets of ourselves, calibrated for this specific iteration. We are now effectively writing over our new ones by scheduling their time and exposure to media. The thing is, if we left them to be autonomous, having to come up with creative play with worlds they make and imaginary friends that populate those worlds, and if we re-inverted 'children should be seen and not heard' and didn't mock them or prank them or use them as content and otherwise cause them to externalize their locus of control, they would stay plugged into the Forever they just got here from and be able to remember themselves more fully, become themselves more fully, have more direct contact with ancestral wisdom and if we didn't question the validity of what they say, we can have a fine new batch of fresh humans who are not poisoned with Empire's regularly scheduled programming.
i was tested as a kid and had 133, few years ago i did another test and got a methematical/logical iq of 139, i've always known more or been able to outsmart just about anyone outside of my immediate family, almost everything i've ever set out to do i've failed at, my grades were always shit, i was bad or mediocre at any job i've ever worked at, i never made any friends, lost all contact to my family and by now my only argument for staying alive is "maybe i'll one day manage to get off my ass and make life better for myself", i have nothing else left that holds me, no privileges and no responsibilities you never know where life leads based on a person's "specs"
@JS-jr1fo
9 ай бұрын
Define “outsmart anyone outside your family”? What do u mean?
@thegoldentree6913
6 ай бұрын
I don't really believe comments like these stating they have a high iq yet they fail miserably.
@barbie3139
6 ай бұрын
Please consider using your gifts to do something meaningful to you and others. Perhaps you may want to look into counseling or a support group to find out why you haven't found your passion yet and what steps you can take to do so. Best to you.
@BabyMessi_
3 ай бұрын
If you have a higher iq, particular 1-3 standard deviations higher than 100 you should be able to understand complex structures and etc with significant ease. Put your gifts to work and stop wasting it.
@rainbowswirl5287
2 ай бұрын
Your delusional sir
We can choose to ignore reality, but we cannot ignore the consequences of having chosen to ignore reality. Edit: You CAN actually choose to also ignore the consequences of having ignored reality.
@g.c.9904
2 жыл бұрын
Very well said. Problem is once you notice the elephant in the room you have to keep your mouth shut unless you have a solution. Nobody seems to have one right now. The only thing you can do Is trying to mate with someone with a similiar or higher IQ than yours and hope that your offspring wins the genetic lottery.
@onizushi6520
2 жыл бұрын
Incorrect. I can choose to ignore reality an the consequences.
@menwar0077
Жыл бұрын
What a line.
@menwar0077
Жыл бұрын
@@onizushi6520 you really can't unless you dissociate to the point of borderline insanity or drown yourself in escapism and addictions. It always catches up with you, you just decide if it's 2 days or 2 decades.
@juanzavala9023
Жыл бұрын
@@menwar0077 thank you for replying, I reread my comment and have now changed my stance on this.
IQ to me is problem solving. I have always been good at quickly solving problems and fixing machines quickly and I worked in logistics and I could always load and unload and do it quickly . The problem I had later was I was inundated by people who became my bosses who were very stupid and created many more problems than just doing my job .
Competence is the best one can strive for regardless of iq, although obviously iq would impact how competent you are capable of becoming, iq is akin to sheer processing ability, reasoning ability is also important.
He's right, we have to face reality and understand that people with different abilities, and different intelligence, are suited for different tasks. The focus should be on helping people find a way to fit into society as a participant.
Low IQ vs. High IQ is like being short vs. being tall...pros and cons to both but we have to acknowledge that IQ has an effect
The real problem, which neither side wants to aknowledge is that most jobs don't require very much intelligence.
It honedtly explains so much when you realize how real IQ is and how much it matters. Most people think they're at least abovw average because nobody wants to admit they might not be the smartest around. I'm of average intelligence and that's okay. Hell, it could be much worse.
@judetheman1562
Жыл бұрын
Sure you are
Floors need to be cleaned too
@blah914
Ай бұрын
the mistake is believing ppl who clean floors are dumb. sometimes ppl are just unlucky.
having a high Iq is an advantage but also what I think is, they have some duties as well coz they're able to do something that many other people can't I believe instead of boosting your ego and arrogance coz you're intelligent, you should be humble and be greatefull and do smth impactful with your intelligence
Having taught school, and managed people, for 30 years, this is true. Our challenge is to see that everyone is healthy, fed, and sheltered, without giving away the farm.
I struggled horribly starting 5th grade when we moved to a new nicer side of town. I was and unfortunately still am severely ADHD or whatever. That's what they call it. I got kicked out of junior year for cheating on test lol. I didn't prefer to do any school work outside of the 8hrs that were allotted to the educators, ish. I always maintained a 100 test average, and in math I actually had an average of 104, od course including the pop up quiz for extra credit. Homework average was like 30 to 100, depending upon the class and topics. So, I was forced by the school to take an extensive IQ test by Dr Cooley who was dean of Baylor. I scored 131 and I was stoned during the test. I think it's a little above average. But I struggle socially and I am obsessive about cleanliness and organizing and patterns. Weird, I know. But it seems to hold me back when I'm capable of doing pretty intricate things. Problem solving is so much fun to me. The bigger the problem, the more I have to immerse myself into an find the fix. We need to be challenged, or we get bored and instantly move on to one of the 100 things we've been thinking about at the same time. It's Kaos in one's own mind.
Most politicians barely break triple digits in IQ score. That's a proven fact.
@scornmmd434
Жыл бұрын
You might want to look up that statistic again.
@craigmeyers9137
Жыл бұрын
@@scornmmd434 you mean without "GOOGLE" I did, and I am right...
@Oppenslimer
Жыл бұрын
This is total bs
@Insomnia19101
9 ай бұрын
@@Oppenslimercomment is a joke
@Allyfyn
9 ай бұрын
No?
I took the IQ test when I was 21, and scored 117.. But I personally don't think IQ test can measure intelligence...maybe capability and memory .. But intelligence is impossible to measure with a test.
My favorite thing about watching JP speak is you can visually see on his face when he’s formulating a thought. You get to watch him process how he wants to word the concept he’s stitching together. It’s like watching an artist paint or a musician play an instrument.
We gotta make learning a cool thing to do. People follow trends
Hello guys, I am pretty sure there is also a lot of people who don't have high IQ and I want to remind you all. If you have low IQ it does not mean you are dumb. You propably have high EQ instead. EQ is type of intelligence based on mainly social intelligence, understanding yourself and others. People with high IQ actually usually suffer from social things like making loyal friends. And usually if you have one low you propably have the opposite type of intelligence high. Also if there is something unclear or wrong please tell me in replies and I will try to make it clear or correct something. PS: I am really sorry if there is some wrong grammar, as English is not my main language. Wish you all beautiful morning/day/night!
@sim4296
4 ай бұрын
But then you find the people with high iq and high eq, or low iq and eq..
@sim4296
4 ай бұрын
You do have really good english tho!
@Merilyn_the_duck
4 ай бұрын
@@sim4296 oh my bad if it sounded like you can't have both it's just more rare but yes I agree it's possible I just wanted to remind people that if you don't have one it doesn't mean you are dumb 😅
@Merilyn_the_duck
4 ай бұрын
@@sim4296 And thank you :D
What did you think was the catalyst toward Mao cultural revolution? Envy is a dangerous weapon if not contained
My experience is that these differences effect our motivation to want to talk about the effects of intelligence in domestic relationships- (i.e. marriages, partnerships etc..)
From " hierarchies of competence " to " they are both wrong " Growing up ain't easy
I am the dumb one in my family. I figured that out by age five because mom was practically Will Hunting, and I could practically memorize conversations and got in trouble for repeating everything back with so much detail and accuracy that my babysitter call me A.N.N. Allegra News Network. I still remember taking the kindergarten version of the SAT, and I looked around the room to find out who could figure out the meaning of the abstract pictures and who was stuck. I never cheated. I just wanted to know who the idiot in the room was, and I decided it was me because I didn't know how to solve that kind of problem at that age. I felt like the idiot ever since and stopped working and truly trying in math until college when people told me I was bad at something. So I worked my way through school and college by finding boys and men that didn't know grammar. I helped them write better and understand their mistakes and they helped me solve math faster. Then, when I was trying to get into grad school I failed the GRE math portion and didn't know how stupid I was until I got home to realize that 1% percentile means you failed. Wondered why I was only girl not crying when I got out. Took a statistics course and had the world's greatest professor, and now I like statistics. If I had him at age 15, I probably would have my MAT in teaching by now. The only time in life I tried to cheat was in P.E., but that was stupid. The skinny P.E. teacher figured out why my ability and time didn't match. I was shaving time by running across the field when she was not looking. Then, she ran behind me the whole way with the entire class following just to punish me for being lazy enough to try using geometry to get out of running laps. My boss thinks my IQ score is 80 points and treats me like it. And the rest of campus calls me the idea person and goes to me for quick fixes on the college of medicine side. I am the dumb one on campus because everyone else knows something I don't know, and I constantly learn from the kind people. Our Dean has published so many journals that he needs to retire and just help people in the office, but he gets to teach all the smart kids. No one else on campus is as kind towards me as him, but the are all afraid I will be manic if I write too fast and change the subject or dumb down my grammar to fit in with people. The only thing in life I feel confident in is identifying who are all of the intelligent people and who I need to run away from. I hate being the smartest person in the room. That's boring and I will daydream instead of talking. I am average. Not a single person drafted me to test my IQ. And, if I remember statistics that means I am in the middle of the bell curve if now one thinks I am too dumb or too smart to be anywhere to provide proof. Don't understand why people are obsessed with IQ. I still like Howard Gardner even if people think he is wrong. Who cares if I needed touch math to do basic math problems as a child because I couldn't hold pictures. I was focusing on everything I heard, and what happened? I majored in music. Probably the only logical choice in the end. My name is the feminine version of Allegro and everyone called me it every time I did something too fast. We aren't all the smartest, and I don't see why they care. All I want to know is why I can sit with a doctor or medical person and know who will jack me up and who will not. That is a gift that keeps me alive. Funny thing about intuition. My brother had to miss college when he was sent to Kuwait, and my gift to him was film textbooks to help him learn when he was away from college in the military. My first thought was, I don't want to understand film. I don't care. Who is probably the best at this? Harvard. So, I went on their system to find out who is in what level of film and assigning what book. I am not Liz Murray. I was too lazy to read those books. Then when I found out who was assigning what textbook read reviews of them, and then choose based of fit and price. After that I asked myself, why the hell does Harvard not have security to block me. I don't hack stuff. It was wide open for me to borrow their knowledge and make my little brother smarter, even though I am still mad that he is smarter than me but truly lazy. Hope Harvard has better security now. I think I did that in 2011. All I had to do was use the same steps I used at North Central College to find out what Harvard reads. I read enough Harvard Business Review. I was bored and found out maybe Harvard isn't so smart or they just don't care that I learned a lesson from a cheaper college and saved money to find the same answer. It was awesome, but I was thinking. Are they so proud that they want to give the world the roadmap to what they are learning. Yeah, most cannot understand it. But, why give me the options to find answers for free? Maybe they saved money but underpaying the IT department. Who knows?
@alextrifs
Жыл бұрын
Im the “dumb one” too. Maybe in IQ I’m not the smartest but I know that if I better myself now (I’m 15) I won’t have to worry about it later. I’ve been watching Peterson for a year or so and the main thing I’ve been motivated to do is be hard working. And… while I may have the lowest grades in my family, everyone in my chemistry class thinks I’m super smart because I was the only one who didn’t fail this test. Realizing it now it’s really who you surround yourself with. If your near dumb people you will feel smart, if your near smart people you will feel dumb. I guess a balance is key 🤷♂️
@turboterps
Жыл бұрын
Reading your whole text was tiring. What’s the core statement? The main point?
@onlyallegra
Жыл бұрын
@@turboterps Thanks for stating that. Wish I could blame it on not taking meds that week, but I honestly know better and haven't written more intelligently in a long time because I got lazy. I think the premise was that people who idealize IQ limit themselves and make their lack of intellect something that is bigger than it should be. I work with people who have PhD's and have no street smarts and sometimes common sense. And, I know people who struggled in school that I considered smarter than I despite the fact that I had more education. If you always see yourself as a learner, it is the best and most comfortable place to be. And, it makes the world more interesting if you learn what it is that you don't know and then try to learn something beyond where you began.
@onlyallegra
Жыл бұрын
Sad thing is I was an English and Spanish tutor in college, but after graduation I let it slide to blend in. My peers hated my long and proper emails and text messages with full paragraphs. Now, I wish I hadn't lost it. My grammar was better on a computer. But, now that I mostly use a smartphone I write like all my peers now. Wish I hadn't dropped the Spanish though. I learned Spanish in school first but look full Boriqua everywhere I go. The moment you are the only person on the job site who speaks Spanish, you get twice the work and cannot get your real job done stuck trying to translate. I could speak in Spanish but I couldn't remember what I said in Spanish later if someone had a complaint, so I never spoke a word of it or learned any more since apart from the few times talking with family. Where I am from if I spoke Spanish fluently, I would never lose employment. But, I am tired of explaining to people I was born here and my family isn't from Mexico illegally. Some of the students I had in middle school thought Canada was of the 50 States and that Puerto Rico was a city in Mexico. You would be surprised how many made it through school cheating. Not ready to find where I fit in again, but started taking up Spanish again. I swear I am losing IQ points as I age. I am not as bright as I once was. Guess you lose what you don't use.
@Slender-James
Жыл бұрын
I ain’t reading allat
It is such a nasty thing. I feel really bad. This world favors the smarter people by a wild margin. I can go to any city and go to work. I can pick up and move to another city and get a six figure position in 3 weeks. In construction, I can literally pick where I want to go. I have options and a great education that many don't have. Selection of your goals is really important and I don't know how I arrived in this really great place. I just kind of figured it out and it all cliqued after working my behind off to become competent. I didn't take one class in college that went to waste. I use my education every day. I have to speak Spanish to workers every day. Even the foreign language I took in college is used. I have to translate regulations and written plans I create. With Google Translate I can communicate on a very high level with people of any language. Big IQ or low IQ you still have to develop yourself. You might as well develop a good work ethic to maximize your ability to survive.
Success is determined not solely by IQ, but also by hard work, motivation, and grit.
It's true. Not everyone can finish high school nor enter college. Some folks just settle for $3,500 a month.
That’s why I only finished maybe 33% of the IQ test and I scored 91 the other 23% I was guessing because I was rushed and couldn’t sit still. Of course I was mocked for this. The rest was EQually divided into sections of brain and heart coherence that’s basically a mystery and will continue to be one because I’m never taking an IQ test ever again.
@rodgerhempfing2921
3 ай бұрын
Take an aptitude test instead, it helps with job happiness.
@rodgerhempfing2921
3 ай бұрын
I wanted to join the Navy and did their IQ test. They would not let me join and redirected me to officer training. IQ too high for general service, smart of them really.
Can anyone explain this in other words? I am having trouble understanding in how IQ actually damages the conservative and liberal perspectives..?
@ruthh3496
2 жыл бұрын
I don't think he was saying IQ in itself hurts the perspectives, I think he was saying that the Conservative & Liberal parties both have their own p rigid & opposing ideas of how ppl can get jobs in the world & be productive, but that neither of their ideas takes into account that not everyone has the same intellectual capacity as each other & so treating everyone as if they do, which is what each party does in their own way, will inevitably cause long-term damage on how possible some ppl find it to even get a job at all
@SammyLogan
2 жыл бұрын
@@ruthh3496 oh alright. Thanks..!
@kelseyswanepoel7056
2 жыл бұрын
He's not saying that it's damaging those perspectives. He's stating that the incorrect or incomplete understand that is used by those parties, is extremely harmful on a societal and individual (majority of individuals) level. The modern education system does the same thing (to the majority not everybody).
@jeremyariche4332
2 жыл бұрын
@Gabrielle Parker I downvoted u
@nj7969
Жыл бұрын
@Gabrielle Parker Not so. He’s saying it needs to be addressed. Reality is full of harsh truths and when looking at the current situation, if you have any interest in actually solving it, you have to discern successful traits from unsuccessful traits. And then find out how those with less traits can strengthen them. He’s simply saying there isn’t a one size fits all solution. Voilà.
Some of the most incredible things were accomplished by people not smart enough to know it was impossible.
This is so true. I worked in the schools and tested kids. I knew what children were capable of by 2nd grade. It’s an unspoken rule that you don’t tell parents what they can expect from their child because the unspoken rule of thought is if a kid gets enough help they can do anything. What good does it do to give a kid a high school diploma if they can’t read? It’s time we revamp the public school system.
@Redblood88-j5s
4 ай бұрын
What traits and behaviours did you see from kids who you saw as high iq and vice versa?
It's not just IQ which matters, it's also a question about what family, what social-economic class of population you were born in, and what ressources or means your family has and what education they can provide to you as a starter
Yes... this worries me a lot. What do we do with all the untrainable, unemployable and very stupid people?
@wouldntyouliketoknowwheath7197
2 жыл бұрын
Train them #growth mindset squad
@ahmedsudaisbatua-an435
2 жыл бұрын
@@wouldntyouliketoknowwheath7197 u just heard his statement. It's not that simple
@tulipalll
2 жыл бұрын
@@wouldntyouliketoknowwheath7197 that's the problem. Some people are simply not able to absorb and retain at a level that would enable them to participate in a complex society.
@Ex-P.F.C_Wintergreen
2 жыл бұрын
Make sure they are being managed by a competent and patient person
@Nic7320
2 жыл бұрын
@@Ex-P.F.C_Wintergreen ... and let him fire them *after* he finds out they are useless.
I have a decent IQ, but with a very good memory. I remember my past bad experiences and play them in my head and it makes me miserable. I wish I could forget.
Conversely, finding a perceived complex job in a seemingly productive society is equally hard. IQ , among many things, causes discomfort because it's a deceptively comprehensive test society uses it to measure incomprehensible beings.
The definition of IQ is how fast your brain processes information, so I think persistence in problem solving is more important than IQ.
@I_Speak_Raw_Facts
11 ай бұрын
It's not just about speed. The main points are level of abstraction and level of reasoning. High IQ people can reach levels of abstraction people with average IQ would be completely unable to reach. Otherwise anybody would be able to solve any problem given enough time, and that is absolutely false.
@kajteboli6204
11 ай бұрын
@@I_Speak_Raw_Facts Ok, there is some correlations. I just want to say that a determined and disciplined man with low IQ can achieve much more than undetermined and undisciplined man with high IQ
@I_Speak_Raw_Facts
11 ай бұрын
@@kajteboli6204 If we are talking about an absolute number of things, then sure. Though you can see that this is very subjective. If it's just a number of things, then I think I can also achieve a lot. But let's be real, the fact of the matter is that whatever the low IQ guy accomplishes will never compete with what the high IQ guy does, even if he weren't serious. Moreover, if what the high IQ guy does something outside the range of the low IQ guy, then 100% he won't be able to do it. It is false the other way around. Also your point is wrong. Determination and discipline will only allow you to reach what is reachable with your IQ. Do not be deluded. Finally, you don't need to a have a high IQ to achieve success in life anyways. But forgetting the hard facts about IQ and one's capacity leads to acceptance of certain people who clearly don't have what it takes in fields that require intelligence above what they have, and over time, you end up with collapse of strucutres and complex systems. But since the whole IQ thing is basically taboo, this gets ignored.
@kajteboli6204
11 ай бұрын
@@I_Speak_Raw_Facts Ok i understand for complex field IQ is important, but for life achievement it is more in discipline and determination. I don't think Tabu is IQ, like in Germany school system is very complex, there is a loot of IQ and personality test, and divide children after only 4th grade for education in the reach for their IQ.
@xenobob2773
10 ай бұрын
Its a measure of dealing with complexity...not speed. Google and read 'Why G Matters: The complexity of everyday life' by Linda Gottfredson.
So basically most of you that watch this and don’t understand it have an average iq of around 100 , and if you are offended by that , that is what he is saying. That the system should pair work placement with iq levels, a person with an iq of 80 probably won’t mind mundane work on an assembly line , while a person with iq over 140 need more complex work. It’s damaging because we might have some 80s in politics but the 140s are keeping that information private
@verigumetin4291
Жыл бұрын
you are stupid and you prove when you explain how you interpreted his words.
@ihatenegativepeople
Жыл бұрын
@@verigumetin4291 it’s ok to be under 100 iq my little friend. Remember…Life isn’t fair. Not all men are created equal. The fact that you chose to insult me instead of debating shows that you are very very low iq and proves my point beautifully. Life will get better for you. Keep your head up.
I think the Indian education system does a fantastic job. By putting these methods into practice, I did complete my high school India.
He's right. And we should question what we're doing to our society by embracing AI. We had prodigious memories until we began publishing books. We could do math until we handed out calculators. We knew how to think until we came up with computers. So we're about to have a generation that won't know how to learn or think or govern itself.
most people that work has bad attitude
I have the opposite problem. I scored a 186 on the mega test and a 220 something (221 I believe) on the Stanford-Binet test. I slept through most classes and refused to do homework because it never interested me but I always aced every test and had the highest score in every class (except history). My grandma had me reading before I turned one and she n 1st grade they wanted to skip me ahead to 6th grade after testing me. My mother refused and decided to keep me in classes so I would have an average childhood. (I was bullied and harassed due to my autism, ADHD and other social and mental difficulties.) was reading college level books on physics and string theory and such in 7th and 8th grade for fun. went to college where I got degrees in art, graphic design, game design and computer sciences before moving on to trade school and learning copper and fiber optics, green tech, telecommunication, Satalite, and electrical engineering. As well as a few others. And that is when my life went to hell. As soon as I graduated no where would take me or talk to me or give me the time of day. I would put in hundreds of applications in every field from electrical engineering to fast food and never got anything. Not a single response back. I’m 30 and the last decade of my life has been marked with barely scraping by at every second and dealing with a crippling inferiority complex and sever imposter syndrome while I’m lucky to scrape by with a hundred dollars a year. Fighting my way through the bureaucracy of getting food stamps and medical alone has been a constant struggle and hell. And every time I took one step forward in my life or was close to getting a foot hood and starting to move forward something awful always happens to push me back. I taught myself how to make 3d models and animate at the age of 28 (now 30) so I could pick up commissions and gigs to make money and was starting to form a business. But I had one bad month where I asked to move in with my father and he decided to cut my internet, harass me to go and get a real job and stop “playing on the Computers with my little friends” and now my business is in ruins and I am making less than half what I made before. I just wish someone would give me a chance to prove what I can do. I am so sick and tired of struggling to find a couch to sleep on or have enough cash or food stamps to not go hungry. I try to keep my mind as sharp as I can but it’s hard and I doubt if I will ever be allowed to succeed in life. All this bureaucracy and scrounging makes no sense to me at all. We have everything we could need to fix simple social political issues like this and everyone refuses to. I’m just so fucking tired at this point.
@therealmarkzuckerberg
Жыл бұрын
The Stanford Binet goes up to 160 max and 220 is statistically impossible 🤦 couldn’t even bother to do one Google search before lying
@devlin9871
Жыл бұрын
@@therealmarkzuckerberg not what I was informed of. The mega test scores up to 180, with exceptions going beyond. And I other iQ test score was 221. I assumed since the only 2 I know the name of are mega and Stanford Binet that the other test was Stanford-Binet. I’m a bit busy starving most days to make sure I get the name correct, of which test I took when I was 10. Also I hate autocorrect so much.
@nursultannazarov8379
11 ай бұрын
God very hard to believe. With such IQ life should be "OK" at least. Seems to me you have not 221 but 22,1 IQ. I myself have 177 IQ and most things was easy most of the time. Didn't really put in that much effort and still got great grades in high school and in university. Yeah most likely you are lying.
@dominusdone5023
10 ай бұрын
@@nursultannazarov8379with a higher iq you could go insane given other disorders that he mentioned making life harder but sometimes too much intelligence can be a problem
My IQ was never tested, but I know it's high, and one of the hardest things that I've had to deal with in life is speaking my plain language to people who can't understand it. And I have learned you have to listen and learn who you're speaking to before you say a word. Sometimes you get years to do that, sometimes you get three damn seconds. But you have to listen.
It’s also because the strong, be it strong of mind or strong of body, have been taught mainly to care for themselves and be out for themselves so they wind up thinking that everyone has to take care of themselves and if they are unable to their weak and should be allowed to basically die or suffer in their lives. When actually what we should really all be taught is that the ones who do win, the ones that are stronger in whatever way they are stronger, are genuinely responsible for the weak.
Hardwork will close the gap.
@DickEnchilada
5 ай бұрын
@gustavo042
3 ай бұрын
No
What he says is true. I have low iq and finding a job you can do and definitely a decently paid job is very hard with low iq
@InfiniT0171
Жыл бұрын
@Legatus OP while I applaud your effort to help him open up his horizon of possible occupations, becoming a singer is highly untenable as a long term sustainable solution like all domains of art. Monetizing art is the issue, and it’s just not as easy as some may make it look. But you may be on the right track to offer a wider selection.
@MegaLoquendo2000
Жыл бұрын
@@InfiniT0171Would Dr. Peterson agree with the extermination of the least capable ones?
@InfiniT0171
Жыл бұрын
@@MegaLoquendo2000 I don’t know where this preposterous question sprouted from. Most definitely not, as he has many stories of his personal clinical work with people on lower ends of iq distribution. Human value is not dictated by one’s intelligence.
@sunkintree
8 ай бұрын
@@MegaLoquendo2000you are in that group
@barbie3139
6 ай бұрын
@@MegaLoquendo2000 of course not. Listen to the rest of this in a lecture he gave He had a client who wasn't able to do even a volunteer job.because it was too complex. His heart went out to him. He wants society to not forget the cohort of people (15% of us) in that category. They should have some kind of meaningful work and we ignore them. He laments that fact. Dr. Peterson has a huge heart.
The bitterness comes from the history of IQ itself when and how it was coined.
@juliagoodfellow-so4jc
Ай бұрын
What bitterness ?
@mariostudio7
Ай бұрын
@juliagoodfellow-so4jc mentioned in the vid
The fact that if I have to live with a low IQ, I would rather die. I don't want to suffer. I'm just done with the stuff I had to put up for many years
I have an IQ of 135-140 (estimated). When I was in school I'd literally not have to listen to the instructors more than once and I'd outscore all the nerds who studied their asses off. I couldn't fathom how someone couldn't understand concepts like I did. It did bite me in the butt later because I developed a laid back and lazy mindset to life in general and let my future go to shit. I'm trying to make up for everything rn. IQ is very important, but an above average IQ with hardwork will push you to success. Anyone who can withstand the brutality of "IQpill" as they seem to call it, can save themselves a lot of problems and disappointment
@MegaLoquendo2000
Жыл бұрын
How old are you?
@cheech_cheech
Жыл бұрын
@@MegaLoquendo2000 23
@therealmarkzuckerberg
Жыл бұрын
Why won’t you get tested if you think your iq is above 130? It’s only $60 at Mensa so are you scared you’ll fail? You can only take it once.
@MegaLoquendo2000
Жыл бұрын
@@cheech_cheech Still plenty of time to sort out your life, don't wait to start doing it though.
@reign1594
Жыл бұрын
Sounds exactly like me, I stopped caring because everything was so easy. I fucking hate that I sound no egotistical when saying this but since I was 7 I was reading college books, Shakespeare and other bullshit. The world became dull, and I became a lazy piece of shit😂. I wish I never knew I was "smart"
Two solutions : 1/ Eugenism could improve average IQ and allow the average IQ people to continue to fit in the society which is getting more and more complex Problem(s): Eugenism always has been an ethical issue. To apply it would mean allowing people or not to have children, genetic engineering, etc... Also many people are going to be left behind and live miserable lives until the whole process will be over or put into place as a permanent thing. 2/ Simplify society as a whole. It could be stopping globalization, stopping automation and IA, decentralize population from the big cities, stopping financial speculation, etc.... Problem : You give up freedom and use a totalitarian government to make all of this a reality. Many people won't agree with that and rebel, especially intelligent and creative people which you would then have to persecute. People would live in small villages and be kept like sheeps by the govt to keep society stable and life simple. There are other solutions to this but they also would generate even bigger problems for humanity
@fernandocabrera4599
Жыл бұрын
You are giving two radical solutions which are based in the generalization of the mesurements of IQ, but no focusing on the underlying conditions of the low IQ scores, like nutritional deficiencies at an early age related to poverty for example.
@issoulescondes3913
Жыл бұрын
@@fernandocabrera4599 Yes absolutely and about that i think we should teach kids on good nutrition and provide affordable good nutrition for everyone. I know there are alot of hungry countries and hungry people today but hopefully they will someday reach that goal as much as possible. But the problem is that the phenomena is happening in rich countries with big cities and more complex socioeconomic structures, where people generally speaking can afford and learn about good nutrition and many other things.
My boss had an extremely high IQ when i used to work in a warehouse. He got into Mensa amd had an IQ far higher than most professors. He lacked heavily in everything else though, he was very socially awkward and was very emotionally unstable. He earnt below the average UK wage. Being thick skinned and a go getter seems to be more beneficial from what i can see.
IQ just reflects the education level and its quality
I’m surprised he doesn’t mention the Flynn Effect- IQ increases 3 pts every generation
@alextrifs
Жыл бұрын
That’s actually promising. One of the best news I’ve heard about IQ in a while. If human intelligence increases by 30 points average in the next 100 years think of all the innovation and problem solving that comes with that and has come so far. I wonder if thats the reason for such fast technological growth since the Industrial Revolution. Crazy stuff thanks for the info, that’s awesome.
Jordan Peterson, people can learn IQ tests and get better scores. Tests don't define people's ability to do something!
@issei4975
2 жыл бұрын
Please for the love of God what the hell are you even strawmaning his point into
@kelseyswanepoel7056
2 жыл бұрын
That statement some truth but is not able to be applied to every situation. It's also a very Ableist view to have, you have always had this advantage so it is invisible to you and thus you assume everyone that everyone should have it.
@sunkintree
8 ай бұрын
@@kelseyswanepoel7056 cope
@ggaz683
7 ай бұрын
strawman's are either done by low iq people who don't get the point or manipulative people who are trying to get one over on the person
@howmathematicianscreatemat9226
6 ай бұрын
One of my students has a spatial IQ of 55. I promised him the newest IPhone if he can draw an elephant after a week’s time. After the week was over, I couldn’t even see that he INTENDED to draw an elephant, it looked more like a mountain. So calling it catastrophic would be a compliment. It was UTTERLY unrecognizable. You might mean it well but if make people go into fields their IQ isn’t made for, you DESTROY their self esteem !!!
To be honest, I believe that no society can have enough time, attention, money, resources, and interest to address ALL cases of IQs, interests, and well-being of every person globally.
Jordan...in special ed, we take kids from 68 to 80 all the time. It takes time and dedication but it happens. The schools have the kids for 13 years...instead of force feeding them to memorize day after day, educators could work tirelessly on increasing those IQs. My teachers were brutal and increased my abilities, but I'm the product of private schools.
I see this extremely humorous - IQ is such an archaic system compared to the modern discoveries we present today. The majority of you whom defend this content are muddied in dogmatism, yet I ponder if you (generalization) have seeked out the diurnal to research on your own - or just listen to this and assume it's valid.
One thing people are forgetting is that iq is never stationary.
@TokyoSeventeen
Жыл бұрын
also highly correlates with race. which makes sense when observing the fact that we have humans with space programs and humans still in the hunter-gatherer era on the same planet.
@blondethunder8912
Жыл бұрын
@@TokyoSeventeen we just have different resources
@Makes_me_wonder
Жыл бұрын
That's true of psychological measurements in general. IQ is just the most consistent measurement yet discovered in the field.
@corwin.macleod
Жыл бұрын
@@Makes_me_wonder IQ is unable to measure your potential, only what you've learned so far, so it's basically useless dick measuring contest at it's finest.
@corwin.macleod
Жыл бұрын
@LibsDrawingMuseum Even information as useless as info on penguins can train you to solve specific parts of the IQ test. Skill is knowledge too.
“We won’t even look at it” That’s the free support and “goodness “ he comes from as well
You used to have a job for every IQ band back when manufacturing and agriculture weren't this automated and streamlined. Now, you have large urban populations sentenced to either serving office workers (food, delivery, uber etc) or resorting to crime
IQ doesn't matter as much as having ego death and understanding the potential of living.
IQ is overly reductionist, simplistic, and measures a very narrow cross-section of skills and abilities. And the tests aren't standardized and emphasize different skills with different formats.
What sucks is when you’re Autistic but have an IQ of 125 like myself. I’m amazing cognitively, i my spacial awareness is impeccable, my memory is unmatched by my peers, i can think in images and be accurate about things without even being somewhere based on a memory of the place ir just be being given numbers, I can learn fast absorb vast amounts of knowledge and retain them like a sponge, I easily grasp deep abstract and philosophical ideas, etc, but the Autism limits me on other ways I dont control. Socially, I really struggle, have lots of mental health issues, sensory issues, I get severe chronic migraines, I have terrible insomnia and stomach problems, I cant eat certain foods, I have in controllable anxiety. I deal with bouts of incredible burnout, meltdowns, shut downs. I dont perform well in environments that I are too chaotic where I cant focus. Mentally, I’m like a human AI, but socially retarded basically, and my physical issues limit me too. It suck’s knowing that if wasnt held back my by disability, I could be so successful. And it’s really hard to make and keep friends when in find them to be so dull, boring, and stupid. Cant have any real intellectual conversations that stimulate my brain. I dont care about the weather, the football game, what the lady down the road did last Tuesday. I literally just stay home alone, and research things and play 7 musical instruments. It’s a lonely hellish existence. And I’m not even bragging. Sometimes I wish I was stupid. I really think that ignorance is bliss saying it pretty accurate. Being intellectually gifted on top of being Autistic is a shit existence.
It's sad being perceived as low status by the rest of the group. It's like being blind and wondering if people are just calling you ugly out of jealousy, because you are ugly, or if you will ever find a better shared definition of beauty. Beauty is an objective, not subjective problem because if we are not considered beautiful in some way, we will not get the same opportunities as someone who is. YOU ARE BEAUTIFUL. YOU ARE THE CENTRAL PART OF THE BEAUTIFUL WORLD YOU FOSTER AROUND YOU. EVERYONE WHO SAYS DIFFERENTLY IS TRYING TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT WHY THEY MAY HAVE MISUNDERSTANDINGS WITH SOMEONE AS BEAUTIFUL AS YOU. If you are going through a hard time, know that the voice in our head telling us we're good enough is what makes us stronger the more we work to understand ourselves and others.
Ima be honest, I’m in all the advanced classes and shit like pre Ap biology and Intergraded math 3 and shit like that as a freshman but I only got a 96 iq 💀
@firstlast9916
Жыл бұрын
We can tell.
@redandblackpill
Жыл бұрын
My iq is 97 but I just say it is 120 lol
@fernandocabrera4599
Жыл бұрын
@LibsDrawingMuseum could you explain what IQ scores mean?
@lookaguy6255
Жыл бұрын
@@firstlast9916 u prob got something along the lines of 60 iq 💀
I just took an IQ test and I'm disgusted and now i hate this system even more
@g.c.9904
2 жыл бұрын
I never advice people to take an IQ test. Never.
@teamcanaloficial8358
2 жыл бұрын
@@g.c.9904 i had failed myself, took an IQ test once, hate myself for it
@mrpirate3020
2 жыл бұрын
@@teamcanaloficial8358 Don’t hate your self because of once failing
@teamcanaloficial8358
2 жыл бұрын
@@mrpirate3020 i got a good score on the test which means the system is shit, now i am inspired to make my own intelligence measuring system
@heckinbasedandinkpilledoct7459
2 жыл бұрын
Almost no companies require an iq test, so what’s the point? You just wasted your money
I have a high iq and I find navigating the workforce to be extremely challenging in the last few years.
Has somebody who has struggled with this my entire life it's refreshing to see somebody finally address it without just go try harder. I've had learning disabilities in my entire life and I'm fairly well spoken but at the same time I come with a lot of shortcomings. Not being able to do math correctly not being able to navigate people well comprehension and memory isdues with a whopping third grade math level barely but seemling intelligent otherwise. I couldn't possibly go without finding a job .. 👀 roll