I'm giving the whole crew some homework. You need to go watch the Cardmarket episode where Tomer was on and playing Commander with that crew and see how they did the Clash On. It's only cringe because you can't commit. You can do it, I believe in you!

@tankdempsey1818

3 ай бұрын

This! Tomer looked so happy when they did it too!

@BloodMoonGo

3 ай бұрын

Crim never tries. As OP says, actually do it and it'll be easy.

@Chris-yb8bg

3 ай бұрын

It's cringe.

@ursulcx299

3 ай бұрын

Do or do not, there is no try. Either drop it if you dont like it, or actually give it energy, then it become dorky but as OP said, only cringe if you do it so halfheartedly

@SpecialKail

3 ай бұрын

It's way funnier this way

The "when you draw, I draw" effects were completely unhinged this episode. The cards must flow!!!

for anyone interested: without rerolling the odds he hits his 7 sixes are once out of 279936 times :)

@MrMartinSchou

3 ай бұрын

Correct - as long as he only has 7 of them. But since he can copy them, he could roll far more dice in one go.

@MTGGoldfishCommander

3 ай бұрын

So you're saying there's a chance!

@MrMartinSchou

3 ай бұрын

@@MTGGoldfishCommander Absolutely. And keep in mind that you're allowed to roll more than just seven dice. More dice means there's a greater chance of success, but it also comes with the risk of hitting too many sixes.

@mitchellbruderlin8621

3 ай бұрын

Online you can find the maths for it but apperently the lucky number is 41 bobble heads giving you 16% chance to roll it

@Lucas-vj6jn

3 ай бұрын

@@mitchellbruderlin8621 41 just maximizes the probability of winning from a single activation, but you don't need that many to get good odds. If you have 21 in play and can activate them all that turn you have a 50% chance of winning. If you have between 27 and 74 you have at least 90% chance of winning (assuming you can activate them all). When Seth activated 7 bobble heads he had about a 1 in 40 000 chance of winning since he did it 7 times, better than the 1 in 280 000 but still very long odds lol

I've watched every clash this season since the switch to paper. Please continue. This is comedy. I love it.

This whole minds eye thing is seth relapsing on card draw. He was starting to change, but now hes back to magnifying glass mana to draw cards.

@MTGGoldfishCommander

3 ай бұрын

You never truly recover from a card draw addition.

Shout out for the retraced image Phil lol. Practiced what you preached and it paid off 😂

Seth's quiet "Hey, I'm an opponent" at 41:26 absolutely killed me for some reason

Erebos on the battlefield at 1:06:00 just shaking his head at both Crim and the editor. :) Good catch later, Crim!

This game in incredible. Even through multiple board wipes, everyone keeps coming back. Honestly, I wouldn't be mad if every game went like this. They also are doing a great job of organizing their boards so that everything is clear and easy to follow. I actually like MTGO commander after getting used to it, but I'm so glad this game was in paper.

crim truly in his element with his blind obedience and roiling vortex reminding people of their effects loll

Literally the hardest combos to win with when there’s a super control deck at the table lol. Fun game tho glad that this was a paper game and not a 2.5 hr mtgo game

@jamescooley5241

3 ай бұрын

3 of them were super control decks...

@xxmerkutioxx

3 ай бұрын

Your guys’ friendship is inspiring.

43:27 Seth forgetting 6 is even twice. At least they mentioned it the second time.

@OmegaMTG

3 ай бұрын

Exactly what I was going to say. Seth should have had 4 not 3.

The best chance to win with a Luck Bobblehead is by having 42 of them, which will result in exactly 7 6s being rolled 16.3% of the time. My money for the best Luck Bobblehead commander is Brudiclad, as it allows you to turn all of the extra tokens you generate in a Bobblehead deck into Luck Bobbleheads to increase your count. Brudiclad also gives you access to Wyll, Blade of Frontiers and Barbarian Class which make rolling 6s easier.

Maybe it isn't as 'lucky', but if you want to win with Luck Bobblehead you should try a simic shell, cast a big doppelgang on basic lands, virtue of strength, the bobblehead, and eternal witness. Repeat until you have 42 bobbleheads, and then roll 42 dice, averaging 7 sixes.

@moocha3689

3 ай бұрын

Issue is you need to roll exactly 7 sixes, so you need exactly 7 bobble heads. 😅 if you roll 7 sixes and 1 four it doesn’t count

@jeremybass1369

3 ай бұрын

@@moocha3689 Gatherer states: "You win the game only if you rolled 6 exactly seven times while resolving a single instance of Luck Bobblehead’s last ability." This implies any additional numbers that aren't 6 don't matter.

@MTGGoldfishCommander

3 ай бұрын

Doppelgang does sound like the way to get it done.

@kylegonewild

3 ай бұрын

@@jeremybass1369 It also makes sense flavor wise since you can invest stat points in luck and it has a tangible impact on the character's experiences.

@nickman217

3 ай бұрын

@@MTGGoldfishCommanderjust don’t make X more than 41! Once you’re rolling more than 42 dice the odds of exactly 7 6’s start to go back down. Although with 42 attempts at a 16% chance you should still be able to get there in one turn. Unless you’re catastrophically unlucky

You actually can play MDFC's from the top with Courser of Kruphix, Crim didn't need to have drawn it at 11:40

Watching crim sorting his collection is like watching those kinetic sand videos is so oddly relaxing.

So like. Handcams sound difficult. But half the fun of 4-way control mirrors is knowing all the hand information as viewers. Maybe it's spicier just not knowing

@theelectricant98

3 ай бұрын

I prefer not knowing!

I was disappointed Seth didn’t try to go for deck of many things, but after seeing his dice rolling luck, this one might actually be harder to pull off at the end of the day lmao

Im really surprised Crim didnt try to win with Nicol’s ult that kills people

Let’s go Seth!!! Show them the power of the bobble

@MTGGoldfishCommander

3 ай бұрын

I tried

@masterjbt

3 ай бұрын

@@MTGGoldfishCommandercouldn’t you have copied the one ring and legend ruled?

@Lucarioguild7

3 ай бұрын

​@@MTGGoldfishCommanderI'd love to see you try it again with a different commander, I've been tinkering with a Brudiclad deck for ease of getting a lot of copies

Richard put Mana Drain into his hand instead of on top of library with Mystic Sanctuary. He also put Tishana's Tidebinder into his hand instead of on top with Vampiric Tutor. Interestingly, both times he had an untapped One Ring. Maybe we should consult Karl Jobst.

This episode is only an hour but I’m guessing it was really like five hours, props to editor for somehow getting it down to a reasonable length

This is so much more watchable on paper

Beautiful day goldfish crew and community, truly love you all and thank you for the content. Seeing Crim malding over control…. Love it!!! Cheers my content creator friends and thank you for the smiles!

Everyone playing and Crim started sorting his bulk at 51:46

absolutely absurd and funny all the way through! thanks you guys

The mad man has done it and one shot with Atemsis , my favorite clash so far

51:13 that is really funny and that counter war at the end lol

I am loving the real life commander clash season!

5:18 just for the record it doesn't work that way, if you put an aura on an opponent's permanent you still control the aura

@MetaKaios

7 күн бұрын

I believe Richard was referring to Witness Protection's colour-changing effect. though Sythis was already GW, so it didn't actually change anything.

I hit mythic in standard with Happily Ever After years ago. As far as I know, nobody else played the deck at all. It was a Bant control deck that used Little Teferi and Planewide Celebration on the opponent's end step to put an all colors citizen token into play and gain 12 life. Celebration and Tamiyo were also used for graveyard recursion. Absorb and board wipes to control the game, keep life high, and provide instants and sorceries in the yard. My all time favorite deck. It was incredibly slow and grindy though because it had no other wincons, so oftentimes opponents will just scoop when they realize you have them locked out with infinitely recurring counters. And Tamiyo and Celebration can both pull each other out of the graveyard too.

I really enjoy the Commander Clash in paper. I hope you guys keep doing it!

Love this crew! Looking forward to today’s video!

Everyone: Trying to win with very specific card conditions Richard: Mill

Appreciate the videos fellas! Hope things are well

I personally like the intros better when Seth kicks off saying "Clash On!" first and then the other 3 chant it back as in accepting a challenge. =)

Wow, Crim really just hit em with the "Always have a backup plan"

unsure if phil will see this but i have awonderful deck idea for him, its right up his alley with this episode for sure, using kynaios and tiro

I saw crim with Happily Ever After and started the video immediately. I play mono white happily and it's one of the decks that brings me the most joy.

That game had some amazing stacks!

Seth, if you ever need Mono Blue life gain in a deck, the lifetap+Yavimaya combo is sweet. only 2 mana, your opponents are very likely to naturally have forests but you can just play Yavimaya in the deck to go in overdrive.

This and the Tolarian Community College comandergame with Spice8rack and Rystic Studies are the epidemy of chaotic commander shenanigans.

Personally, i think Urza Prince of Kroog might be the commander for building around the Bobbleheads as he lers you copy artifacts. You just need ways to lower his activation cost.

Alternative win ‘tribal’ week, awesome!

Ahahahah crim getting excited everytime a counterspell gets played is hilarious

Id love to see you guys go at it with decks that shouldn't work, but have some wild synergy

Ah yes, my favourite wincon. Killing your opponents off their Ancien Tomb.

Mechanized production or strixhaven stadium are fun ones for the concept too

I respect this episode

I haven't finished the video yet, but I've seen more counterspells from the bobblehead deck than I have bobbleheads 😂

Phil's Turn 1 was so clever and cool, the only problem with Retraced Image was the card disadvantage, and he readily suspended a draw 3

Look what control decks do to a man. 'crim sadly sorting the bulk'

an honestly awesome counter war, surprised Crim wasn't involved tho lol

I'm a couple months late, but actually I did some more math. With 21 bobbleheads spinning all 21 times, you have a 50/50 shot of winning, and if you spin 29 bobbleheads 29 times you have a 95% chance of winning. That puts the number of bobbleheads needed well below 42, given you have the mana of course.

my minds eye in my omnom mono green deck is incredible lol

you guys should probably ban ancient tomb. everyone is just killing themselves lol

@donb7519

3 ай бұрын

They banned sol ring to avoid too much fast mana or ramp then instantly went to a land that makes as much

@mct685

3 ай бұрын

@@donb7519 that too, but they need to save themselves from themselves.

I cannot believe I watched all of this haha

Excited for the Padeem bobbleheads, every other build I’ve seen has been brudiclad

@KVGKQuake

3 ай бұрын

As much as I love the idea of Brudiclad with the bobbleheqds, it's gunna feel really bad when you roll 8 or more 6s

@MakeVarahHappen

3 ай бұрын

I do Ashad because Unfinity has a decent amount of black dice rolling cards.

@MakeVarahHappen

3 ай бұрын

​@@KVGKQuakeI mean Padeem is also cloning. I think you solve that by running those Unfinity cards that let you change rolls besides "get this higher."

This is one of the more entertaining episodes of the season IMO, it's also something I wish they could do in mtgo, but I suppose the bobbleheads aren't online. I haven't done the math thoroughly but I think roughly having 42 bobbleheads would maximize your probability, and I really really hoped Seth could get to that many bobbleheads

Crim legit getting out cards to sort killed me! Lmao.

nice the bobblehead deck seth, i was hoping youd try to make it work

Did Seth like forget about the red and black cards that help with dice rolling? A clone only puts one more bobble on the battlefield, a Monitor Monitor lets you re-roll ALL of then.

@khub5660

3 ай бұрын

Seth doesn't like to play optimally

@representativejoints1188

3 ай бұрын

So, Saheli commander and cards like Delina?

@MakeVarahHappen

3 ай бұрын

@@representativejoints1188 I like Delina/Wyll combo as a back up but if the goal of the episode is to bobblehead win she doesn't do much. I use Ashad because he makes clones easily but lets you play all the dice cards.

@MakeVarahHappen

3 ай бұрын

@@khub5660Honestly, I don't know how optimal a dice rolling deck is.

@representativejoints1188

3 ай бұрын

@@MakeVarahHappen I casually play Myra the Magnificent and I've had good times with Delina + Monitor Monitor. I thought about adding the bobbleheads into the deck. Brudiclad after making a token copy and turn my little dudes into the bobbleheads.

Need to see the thirteen doctors wincon sometime!

I really enjoy seeing the playing either real cards

Geez, so many counter spells😵‍💫

I'm curious, how do y'all get the cards for a whole season of paper? Do you use proxies? Card rental?

@MTGGoldfishCommander

3 ай бұрын

It's a mad scramble every week to put decks together, that's for sure.

43:27 didn’t know 6 was odd!

this might be a little late but a t 31 min approx seth tapped ancient tomb after he cast the one ring and took damage even though the one ring gave him protection from everything. I will continue watching to see if it matters but it probably doesn't.

@Niuttuc

3 ай бұрын

We did actually catch that one but several turns later after Seth had already died, and way too late to correct anything. It got edited out because not really a point to point it out in the video by that time, but a good catch!

Luck bobblehead is great, but not if you are exclusively running it for the win-con. It's much better as a value engine for treasure tokens, tapped or otherwise.

I dub this episode, "The Wincon Blues"

Playing a fog in esper is peak Richard

@dontmisunderstand6041

3 ай бұрын

Teferi's Protection is white, and it's by far the strongest Fog in the game.

Could you somehow add your guy’s opening 7 like mtgo had? Harder seeing the cards in overtop cam setup

The move to paper has been amazing. Im glad crim was victorious through combat.😊

My most difficult win con is a Barren Glory deck, It’s funny bc there’s so many weird combo pieces, people will make me discard a card and see I’m running worldfire or very similar cards and the game quickly becomes arch enemy

ALL HAIL CROWD SURFING KARN!

Kinda liked Crim's deck, that was a fun one.

Hey it’s Seths favorite blue commander! Atmesis….wait Aitmesis….(if you don’t know, check out the commander clash where Seth piloted that commander and pronounces the name like a different way each time) 😂

I understand Seth is trying to keep all the dice on camera, but you really gotta roll those things! That was some sad looking dice rolling.

small mistake at 30:39, seth shouldnt have taken 2 damage from ancient tomb, he has protection from the one ring.

Atemsis is genuinely not that hard to pull off in my Unesh sphinx tribal deck, but it is very funny when it works because no one expects it

The video,s description doesnt link to the correct article, it links to the "Any number in the deck" episode's article

My god you need revel in riches in that as a secondary win con 😂😂😂

You need to get to at least high teens amounts of luck bobbleheads to have a decent chance of making it

I feel like bruniclad would of made more Bobleheads or even the blue 6 drop that makes all creatures a copy

I want a game of one tier 1 deck vs 3 rogue decks

"This is my land hand"

love me some crim but watching him get triggered by all the counterspells was delightful

43:29 first activation you missed the 6 as even just like the second activation you caught

Bobblehead's, aka you need about 14 copies of them and 8 other cards to have a chance of them working. Still waiting on the _hype_ of fallout besides a cpl solid cards and a lot of "Why where you excited for it..? Be more like Richard!" :p

The link in the description is to last week’s Clash.

For all the lifegain stuff Crim used in his deck, I'm honestly sad that he didn't include Felidar Sovereign. It's my favorite hard wincon to pull off, even in commander, since it makes you an immediate target the moment it hits the board, either by people trying to get rid of the card or get your life total below 40.

@leonfriedemann9151

3 ай бұрын

You just need it early enough in the game, when Noone has big enough creatures to attack trough it and spend there removal allready on the white 1 mana 6/6 flying lifelink... Happened to me 2 times the same day. So involving bad shuffling and cutting the chances seem to be not as bad for that cat. 🙄

A Luck Bobblehead win is very possible (though still challenging) with Doppelgang: If you can get 5 Bobbleheads (at least 3 of which are Luck Bobbleheads) on the field, you can cast Doppelgang X=5 for 17 mana, targeting all 5 Bobbleheads, making 5 copies of each. You'll then have 30 Bobbleheads on the field, at least 15 of which are Luck Bobbleheads, you can tap the other half to pay for the activation of those 15, giving you 15 chances to roll 30 dice for exactly 7 6's, a 79% chance of winning immediately. With a token doubler like Mondrak, casting Doppelgang for X=4 (14 mana) with 4 Bobbleheads (at least 2 of which are Luck Bobbleheads) will give you 18 activations with 36 Bobbleheads, a >95% chance to win. Obviously these are very mana intensive, but they are quite plausible wincons, mainly because your opponents have no ways to interact once Doppelgang has resolved. So if you can slide your 5 bobbleheads under the radar, you can combo off the next turn provided you dodge counters.

Today we learned what happens when two commander players have faerie mastermind at the same time.😂

Lets go!

Can I find yalls banlist anywhere or in any video? I've always liked it but wanted to see it

@MTGGoldfishCommander

3 ай бұрын

It's in the article linked in the description, but it's basically: Sol Ring, Mana Crypt, Mana Vault, Smothering Tithe, Dockside Extortinist, Gaea's Cradle and Rhystic Study. www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/the-hardest-wincons-to-pull-off-commander-clash-s16-e11

@blue9393

3 ай бұрын

@@MTGGoldfishCommander thank you I really appreciate it

You guys are definitely due for some Timmy decks and stompy decks after all of this “oops all control”

43:37 I would like it known for the record Seth clearly does not think 6's are even, missing an even 6 not once but twice in only two rolls

The link in bio for the article is to the last weeks commander clash btw 😂

@MTGGoldfishCommander

3 ай бұрын

Oops, should be updated now. Thanks!

Rolling 7 6s on 7 dice is a 1 in 279,936

Somehow, this is the sweatiest episode of commander clash so far.