The hardest boss is actually the plesioth deviant namely Leg Day Plesioth

@pitth1

2 ай бұрын

Uuuuuuuu that fucking Plesioth still gives me nightmares, like Cinthya from Pokemon or The Flood in the library, OMFG

@cheeromatic

2 ай бұрын

Peak MH boss

In my opinion Primordial Malzeno is the highest peak of the totality of SunBreak's Combat System. His moveset and progressive aggression transforming him through different phases throughout the fight forces you to play faster and harder as the fight continues until you are eventually throwing *_everything_* you have against him and he in turn is maniacally attacking you with everything *_he's_* got which includes causing you to juggle not just his crazy moveset but also _multiple_ different systems of the game all at once INSANELY hype and intense fight🔥

My friends: suffering against P. Malzeno Me with my lance: *tink* *tink* *tink* *tink*

@cobaltbluestickman5557

Ай бұрын

Lance vs Big lance

Flexing the Primordial Bloodstone on the ground while also having the third phase transformation haha nice!

@notimeleft1

2 ай бұрын

I got that thing off a random item drop during the hunt but still lost lol. I have yet to actually beat this behemoth but I got it close to death with the icon showing up under the icon lol

Well from your logic, IB Fatalis and AT Velkhana also have the equal difficulty causes those monsters are careful design to have a "counter" to the strongest mechanic hunter has in the game. I think 3 of them are all hard, but no mean the hardest.

@azukimindauki

2 ай бұрын

IB Fatalis is such a mechanic check its crazy, AT Velkhana as well was challenging 🫡

@minhtruongnhat9986

2 ай бұрын

@@azukimindauki the fact that both of them are not that flashy but rather grounded and simple are the best.

@azukimindauki

2 ай бұрын

@@minhtruongnhat9986 oh 100% cause you spend most of world/ib fighting these fantasical monsters and then plop, just a dragon, goodluck 👍

@Albert_Lecter03

2 ай бұрын

Man now I kinda wanna see AT IB Black Dragons now Alatreon just has the pre nerf Escaton Judgement while he’s at it (But then again that just implies for me that Fatalis is either gone crimson or white and Alatreon really just going ham on that avatar of the elements like idk pulling moves that Namielle does but Alatreon can just freeze up the water during the that move instead)

@minhtruongnhat9986

2 ай бұрын

@@Albert_Lecter03 monsters and game of IB are too good we dont want it to end ya

Musou Eruzerion in Frontier is the hardest monster in the franchise. This isn't even a question or debate.

@utsugixragon9999

2 ай бұрын

Yeah you can hear the general population of Magnet Spike users screaming as we speak.

@Triffyrose

2 ай бұрын

That alongside Arrogant Duremudira. Both are painstakingly hard.

@utsugixragon9999

2 ай бұрын

@@Triffyrose As hard as Arrogant is I defeated him far easier than I ever did Musou Elzelion, even with prayer songs I still find myself in dire trouble with elze. Arrogant Dure melts with ranged weapons. Nearly damn free in fact (bringing MOST melee weapons to dear dear shame to an extent its baffling). I also recall Upper Shiten Disufiroa being much more manageable on ranged, which is something I would normally not expect. Also yeah Upper Disu is right behind Arrogant. Elze is just far harder.

@ericraululyeetusdelyeetus5028

2 ай бұрын

Truth be told, Frontier is exempt from usual MH difficulty standards.

@lcb6130

2 ай бұрын

pretty sure he is just talking about the mainseries

The biggest enemy is your own skill

As much as I wanted to agree with this, I still think that Risen Valstrax still poses the most struggle.

@RainPlayGame.

2 ай бұрын

i kinda agree, the hardest i think not, but the most surprising and the most awesome fight in sunbreak. i will agree on that

Your timing is perfect, I recently get into mh and got into mr and beat P Malzeno

*Laugh in Monster Hunter Frontier ZZ*

@utsugixragon9999

2 ай бұрын

Hello, fellow man of culture.

@Touktouksoans

2 ай бұрын

@@utsugixragon9999 Sadly, I didn't even played it, but I know it has many of the hardest fights in the series

@utsugixragon9999

2 ай бұрын

@@Touktouksoans Oh I see, you should try getting yourself a private server or public server and get on the game! I've done a custom quest with 5 Musou Elze with a time of more than an hour and like 999 carts and it was crazy, cart festival here and there. But I learned a lot from that. fun days.

@lazthespaz2290

2 ай бұрын

@@Touktouksoanswould you like to?

@tmmonica117

2 ай бұрын

I just wish Hunting Horn wasn't gen 2 in that game. What weapon would you tell a Hunting Horn main to play.

Zamtrios has an cousin named "Tetranadon", another Amphibian that is Kappa-like. Tetranadon was my first wall before I realized to hit his belly when he goes "Sumo Mode". Other than *that one Barroth* , Narwa, and Apex Diablos, everybody was relatively easy

It really depends on your weapon match up though? Primordial Malzeno is actually fairly easy if you play the counter heavy weapons like Long Sword, Bow, and Dual Blades. Actually he's trivially easy with elemental berserk sets by making you virtually invulnerable in blue scroll. Hit stun chain locks are also fairly easy in solo with Charge Blade saed style and Great Sword tcs counters. The trick is that wire bug recovering from the first Malzeno hit will get you wombo comboed so you just stay down or wire bug diagonally away. Also none of Malzeno's attacks actually one shot from full health unlike the Risen Valstrax super beam. IMO Iceborne Fatalis is by far the hardest fight not just because of his fast mechanics.....but simply because Capcom stupidly made his MR requirement really low so unlevelled players keep joining SOS's and triple cart all the time. By the time you get the level 300 Risens everyone's rocking elemental berserk sets or long swords so deaths are rare. Mechanically tough fights I found are the bad match up monsters like hammer against monsters whose heads are too high, armored, or too wobbly. I remember Lagiacrus being a huge pain back in MH Tri because his head is wobbles alot and Plesioth in MHFU since there wasn't an upswing in hammer yet.

@benjaminmendy-cadol2706

2 ай бұрын

long sword is the easy in monster hunter so it's not surprising, same with dual baldes

@darkshibe2267

2 ай бұрын

Lance does well against Risen Crimsonglow and Primordial. Though like any weapon, you should probably be confident with the weapon's capabilities first of course.

@FzPura

2 ай бұрын

True, I can solo Primo Multiple times but still carts on Alatreon Multiplayer

You probably were not willing to count frontier, but if you were, I'd give you without a shadow of doubt, Musou Elzelion. The Hardest Monster in the Franchise. Ofcourse that is my opinion, but also the general consensus for the game on people who played it. I've seen some minor groups disagree.... but most of the time... they were... not the brightest tools in the shed themselves, just people who wanted to cope.

@EliteWizzerd946

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, I also pointed this out. Musou Eruzerion is the hardest by far. No contest.

@utsugixragon9999

2 ай бұрын

@@EliteWizzerd946 I swear, I go to bed with his combo's at the back of my mind, scared that they're the monster under my bed.

@minhtruongnhat9986

2 ай бұрын

Yah. But she is that challenging also because Frontier gives you a lot of tool and power. Great to see monsters like that. The stronger and advanced the guild are, the stronger monsters we have to fence off. . . . And there is freaking Fatalis who just overpowered everything with his sheer force of destruction....

@robertomacetti7069

2 ай бұрын

i disagree musou nargacuga is harder than musou elzelion, elze is basically his normal version but faster with bigger aoes, you are equipped to handle fast af monsters in that game (i'm not saying musou elze is easy, hello no, don't get me wrong) but musou nargacuga has malzeno teleports on crack on top of most of his attacks hitting so many times that is barely humanly possible to parry a move because you have to press the parry button with e very specific timing about 6 times in a second, with the game going at 30 fps which sometimes causes input miss at that speed

@utsugixragon9999

2 ай бұрын

@@robertomacetti7069 You're joking right? This has to be bait lmao.

I like the piano too, but I kind of fell in love with the Cello after seeing what some people can do with it

Played the euphonium in middle in high school, so probably that Also I'd probably argue that bloodbath Diablos is a harder challenge than malzeno due to the player not having as many options to counter and move around and out of the way. However, saying that Zamtrios is the hardest just because you were walled by it when you started doesn't mean that it is more difficult. There is a difference between struggling with a monster and it inherently being hard, and I think there are many good examples of it. I struggled a bunch with pink rathian in 4u, but I know from an objective standpoint that it is not as hard as something like raging brachydios, which is a monster I struggle to put down even with 1000 hours in the franchise. If you as a new hunter were given endgame gear and told to go fight alatreon(world) you probably would quit the game after a few hours of getting beaten into the dirt. I do agree that perspective matters, but there will always be a reasonable objective standpoint to approach this from. Also music while talking about phase two is a little too loud, kinda masks your voice

@utsugixragon9999

2 ай бұрын

Props on mentioning BloodBath btw, I personally do think he is a very hard fight but I have not quite gotten back to rise to compare Primordial to him, but you are certainly right on the fact that there's not many options left with his fight, especially on the EX version, but personally I might place Boltreaver above him. Edit: I played Euphonium once upon a time too 💀

@joe_the_zombie

2 ай бұрын

@@utsugixragon9999 gu Astalos is a fight that I've nearly mastered, so boltreaver(at least his early ones) was kind of a bit of a pushover

@utsugixragon9999

2 ай бұрын

@@joe_the_zombie Mainly I was comparing the EX's. no point at all in comparing their weaker forms. but this is probably because bloodbath diablos was the only monster I fought in that game ever since I decided to finally give that fight a try, a lot less of boltreaver.

@joe_the_zombie

2 ай бұрын

@@utsugixragon9999 I haven't fought either ex , so I just compared their regular g rank iterations

@utsugixragon9999

2 ай бұрын

@@joe_the_zombie You're missing out, they were the most fun. Some of the deviant quests were boring. A lot of the times they focused on other monsters or multiple monsters, or capturing them, and the G1s were way too weak.

Thanks for the vid

Dev saw the comment Rise is too easy and just say FUCK IT WE BALL *Added Primo Mal

@cobaltbluestickman5557

Ай бұрын

Let’s keep telling them that it’s still too easy. We could use some more highly challenging monsters in the future games. And a chance to see those amateur players complain about being too hard like Iceborne’s Alatreon.

this was a crazy fun fight to master. "master." (to this day, i still can't turn my brain off and let muscle memory take over like with some monsters.) Primordial Malzeno is one of the best monsters in recent memory at truly making me feel like a hero when i beat him, which is arguably the best part of Monster Hunter, period.

Just saw the title and came in with some dread because I literally picked up Rise + Sunbreak yesterday with it being on sale. Even though I'm a veteran from all the way back in the PS2 days, I've always been an average hunter at best, and fare much better in group hunts where I don't have the aggro on me constantly, more so now with the later gens having more and more twitch responses needed as I get older and older lol. Though I do have some questions, not quite about the video content as far as Malzeno is concerned, but the video displayed: At around 0:58 you have the move reminder text stuff in the middle bottom of the screen, how do I set that up? Also around the same time mark, how did you do that jumping attack with the dual blades? Is that something you unlock later? I've only done the training quest (which I'd already done when playing the demo) and then spent like... An hour and a half in the training area trying to get a feel for weapon differences. Every title from Tri/Portable 3rd on, I keep saying I'm going to change my main from hammer to something else. I play one or several weapons for awhile, but I inevitably just fall back in love with hammer as it (very) slowly gets more and more love with each game. Anyways! I'd looked at dual blades but was just feeling ok with them, but if I can get the power to just trigger the Attack on Titan death spiral almost on command, well... Off topic rambling aside, great video and it actually made me more excited to eventually get to this fight!

Monster hunter rise was my first monster hunter game. I had….some difficulty with primal malenzo but it wasn’t so hard. But dual blades kinda counters him as being in the air makes it so you can ignore attacks for a while, and the mobility helps too

Frontier fans when their shitty game doesn't get mentioned in a video 😮😮😮😮

Dude up until primordial malzeno came into the game, my wall was Shara Ishvalda from iceborne. It took me several weeks before I finally took it down. And monster hunter world was my debut in the monster hunter games. I got over 330 hours in there and roughly around 400+ in rise from both switch and xbox. I got close to beating primordial malzeno yesterday at least twice once he hit the final phase of the fight but most times I got carted quick.

primodial to me gave the memory of old gen tactics, (I suck at Counter, wirebug counter cuz i am used to dodge far and don't get hit) it is reminder that no matter how improved the combat style went, (hate the debate of claw and wirebug), you still have to learn dodges and timing like a dance to grab every chance to attack

I feel like the accordion is my favorite instrument to listen to, idk, it just kinda gives off a feeling you rarely hear in music, a feeling I feel, has yet to be explored

I’d say my favorite instrument is also the piano. Played it in elementary and even though I didn’t keep up with it, it’s definitely a really cool instrument. As for walls, believe it or not, mine was Arzuros(I know, I was REALLY bad), after him it was Barroth, then qurupeco(my first game was 3U btw). But the most difficult monster in the series for me is World Alatreon, with a close second being Fatalis, and behind him it was Ivory Lagiacrus(he was a complete menace in the mark of a hero quest). From a more objective standpoint though, the most difficult fight in the series has gotta be one of the “Extreme Individuals” from Frontier based on what I’ve heard and seen.

P.Malzeno is the only monster that has given me any trouble so far. Had to switch to lance and patiently learn his moves and counter accordingly. Ironic how the less mobile and stoic styled weapon made Malzeno's erratic movement more manageable. For me at least.

bloodbath is my most hardest monster I've ever faced, especially when reaching the EX quest

Makes me remember some of my trauma first try from some monsters in the series : Freedom unite yian garuga , lvl 140 apex rajang in 4u , ex boltreaver astalos and bloodbath diablos from GU , freaking arch tempered nergigante was absolutely batshit insane the first time I faced him on world , tempered furious rajang from the event quest was quite scary too in iceborne and fatalis was really hard the firsts times , but in my opinion some hazard monsters and power up shagaru magala in sunbreak was harder than primordial malzeno

Barioth in Tri was my zamtrios. Compared to earlier monsters in the game, it had more angles of attack, a much shorter cooldown between attacks, and many of its "openings" are cut short by it just jumping ~30 ft backwards. I almost quit Monster Hunter on Barioth. After a couple days of... I will admit it was pouting, I came back and started hunting Rathalos a bunch. Ya'know, for fire weapons. Also, my parents didn't let me on the internet at that time so I have no idea how I learned to focus on his wing spikes. Up until that point, I hadn't really understood that you can break monster parts for improved drops. I actually thought part breaks were going to be a unique mechanic for Baroth (since I didn't have the skill to focus on one part).

I loved the white and still play against. The only nitpick is the amount knock down moves he has the completely unblockable laser beams.

He has become my favourite Sunbreak Fight for sure. Immense pressure the whole way through but it just has something very rewarding about it to fight him and come out on top. Learning to deal with phase 3 was a real pain in the beginning though. I don't know how often I carted against that angry boi

I personally don't think Primordial Malzeno is insanely difficult. In fact, I've never even triple carted. He is incredibly fast and has long combos, but he has a lot of moments of downtime. Usually after his ultimate or during his final phase. For actual difficulty, he would Barely scrape into my top 20 hardest monsters, but he is undoubtedly my 3rd most difficult hunt in Sunbreak. However, the reason I'm writing this is because, Primordial Malzeno would be downright stupid to fight in a Monster Hunter game without the movement of Rise and Sunbreak. The wirebug are your only saving grace from most of his attacks, and without them, you'd simply be wombo combo'd to death constantly. Primordial Malzeno's attacks are designed to punish mishandling of your wirebug usage, and if he was put in a game without wirebugs, he would probably be one of the most difficult hunts in the series. Now, I get that Capcom would nerf Primordial just so players could properly keep up, but it would still be insanely difficult to predict his teleporting, avoid getting hit by 3 attacks in a row, and have to deal with nonstop speed and aggression for an entire final phase. Old World players and even New World players would all have a hellish time trying to keep up.

I recently made the point that Primordial Malzeno is harder than Fatalis and got a little bit of push back. At his core Fatalis has a very simple move set, while punishing, once you learn openings he becomes a lot easier. Add in his incredibly high hp pool and attack damage and I think that for most players hes more of a war of attrition than a mechanicaly tricky fight. Primordial Malzeno however is incredibly complex and leaves little to no breathing room, of course in Rise you also have more tools to deal with that complexity but I personally feel that this is part of learning curve and adds to the difficulty. Just my opinion I suppose, difficulty will always be greatly subjective. Great video mate! :)

@GRstriffe

2 ай бұрын

Indeed, the fatalis moveset is so limited and people tend to forget fatalis just hit hardand nothing more. Don't get me wrong, fatalis is also a big challnge but for different reasons

I agree that Primordial is a challenge but personally I think it comes down to the area you fight him in, if you're in the citadel and you're fighting him in a really narrow/cramped area then your going to get pummelled but if you're in a wide area then he becomes easier. This is why I actually think the Hazard quest is easier than the base quest because the Hazard quest is set in the Forlorn arena which is very open.

The drums but piano is a close second! Also I think if I had to pick the tricky monster for me due to my low number of hours/first game it has to be ivory lagiacrus. That was just me getting beat down over and over and over again. I did eventually win and my love for monster hunter was set in stone.

Gore Magala was the first "wall" I encountered when I was getting into MH4U as a kid. It forced me to realize that I just can't grab a hammer and bonk my way out of a fight, I have to actually study and learn the monster. It was one of the most satisfying wins when I finally beat him with barely anytime left.

He's not the hardest by any stretch. The fact that he is fought in a normal map with all the special tools available for you to use already makes him easier than any very hard arena fight that in turn restricts you. You also fight him with Fiorayne which doesn't scale up his HP but gives you more damage and utility overall I beat him first try without carting. That could never happen with something like Alatreon or Fatalis

@Likhos1

2 ай бұрын

mind you, the rematches, Fiorayne ain't with you unless you put her in the hunt. But yeah he isn't that hard, I believe the Hazard versions of him and Risen Shagaru are good contenders though

That's why Monster Hunter Rise is the Best.

have you beaten world fatalis solo? It's way harder imo. Rise gives you so many ways to elevate the difficulty through wirefalls, silkbind attacks and followers. World fatalis have cannons and ballistae but its overall way more difficult. There's also world alatreon that gives you nothing and have a hard elemental damage check every 12 minutes.

There are actually four phases. The phase 2 you mentioned have an enraged phase where its moveset changes. But tbf if you can read the first phase, the remaining three phase are relatively easily readable too. Wouldn’t say it’s the hardest boss, tho, given sunbreak hunter is too op. Cough in Boltreaver Astalos cough cough bloodbath Diablo cough cough

Have you forgotten superman dive during that phase3? And wait for malzenos last attack to counter. Its really easy what is this?

Best fight ever! Extremely fun with beserk build!

I was able to pull an Ultra Instinct with SSJ 3 cosplay fighting this boss many times.

honestly, the hardest monster i've ever fought was back in XX when i was first starting... and it was freaking nibelsnarf because i refused to use bombs and throwables back then. i was and still am a glaive main too so i had even more trouble with em

Pre 5th gen Zinogre + Gold Rathian would probably be my personal hardest monsters. Goldian especially with that wack ass bite hitbox when she's enraged, like I'm 5 zones away from that attack, why is it still hitting me.

As someone who played sunbreak recently, I'm going to say hes mainly super hard at first when you just got out of mr 6 and are trying to fight him, but once you get higher level armor and doesn't 2 shot you with basic hits, he becomes a lot easier

@GRstriffe

2 ай бұрын

So basically like any other monster in the series

I don’t see any world where Primordial is the hardest, you simply have too many tools to invalidate his moveset in Sunbreak. Also while his super combo is crazy at first, it’s fairly easy to dodge and he’s left open for a long ass time afterwards.

Laughs in Iceborn Fatalis and Alatreon and all Frontier endgame

@GRstriffe

2 ай бұрын

Alatreon is way easier than malzeno 😂

@sephatu6521

2 ай бұрын

Alatreon and Fatalis are easy. It would be more correct that they are poorly designed fights 😂

@Drakromdemon

2 ай бұрын

@@sephatu6521 same could be said about Malzeno AND the wirebugs

@sephatu6521

2 ай бұрын

​@@Drakromdemonah yes hiding behind wall for the scripted flamenovas are fun 😂

@GRstriffe

2 ай бұрын

@@Drakromdemon hahahaha Malzeno poorly designed fight? Either you are just a world fanboy or never played rise, maybe both.

Legit changed from greatsword to dual blades on that fight. Only do dual blades in rise ever since. Immunity frames are key.

Piano is my favorite instrument as well

people bringing up fatalis are silly that fight isnt actually that hard its just punishing and requires you to play aggressively. Molton Tigrex G rank is harder imo than iceborne fatalis

"hardest boss in monster hunter" when mhgu event alatreon.

I dunno bout the hardest, but seeing his wings fold up and teleporting for the first time was insane. Certainly top 3 coolest things ive seen a monster do. Made me do a mental double take, to make sure i saw that right.

looks like a fun day with lance tbh. We like monsters attacking us

I feel like double level 140 apex rajang in 4u to me was a harder hunt especially solo.

I've seen more people get carted by a hyper plesioth, a hyper lavasioth and a hyper lagiacrus than any other hunt in my entire monster hunter experience. Who else remember's hyper lagiacrus being a very scummy fight? Especially it's roar and hyper-discharge combo. G5/EX Nightcloak Malfestio is also a panic inducing fight. Nargacuga would be my first wall back in MH3U, then Pink Rathian in HR, and finally Brachy in GR. Grinding for GR Brachy in the more grounded combat system in 3U definitely was the time I mastered my dodging skill as a hunter. Which carried over to my playthrough in 4U and GU, and finally sunbreak.

@mhswoocer

2 ай бұрын

FINALLY somebody mentions hyper monsters. Those things were menaces

From what I recall from 5 months ago when I fought him (using CB), he's really hard cause when you counter, most of his attacks still stagger you even with guard 5, so you can't SAED after, plus I only had guard up 1 or 2? so I took a lot of chip damage + dereliction, the rest I just had to memorize the pattern. Fuck bloodblight half healing tho Also, the hazard quest, I think I failed about 10 times, and stopped trying it 🙂

>calls video hardest boss >isnt a special investigation risen shagaru (special investigations biggest difficulty spike is actually the sheer size of the monster making the attacks larger making you need to be pinpoint at dodging) >isnt a 140 guild quest >isnt frontier >isnt even hazard primordial malzeno which has some mixups and is bigger than normal also primordial malzeno's got 4 phases people always forget about the real phase 3 where he powers up a second time and gets access to a nuke if he stays in it for too long you can still depower em to phase 1 but if they nuke they power down to phase 2. also you say you cant rely on counters and yet here i stand my blades brandished with the power of the magala's and kushala's wind on my back, Wind mantle and frenzied bloodblust, nigh infinite couters. parry this. i've beaten a special investigation primordial malzeno before but risen shaggy when it enters hazard mode(at about 276 in anomaly investigation levels) and has 3 phases(at about 5% health they randomly add slams to its moveset) its just aaaaaaaaaaaa. but basically you can make builds for every monster different weapons work better on differet monsters, it's why i've got different elemental res builds in world it helps. its not just individual weapons individual builds change a fight as well. an example being my first sunbreak rathalos i returned to the series after a long time. pretty easily went through base rise. and as soon as i went to master rank i went to fight gore magala early in event quests for armor.., challenging but fun i treat it like killing jho or bazel early if you got the skill you earned that gear and once again the choice in armor made rathalos hurt really bad due to low fire res and rathalos became a mini wall for me dude got a glowup in sunbreak. everytime rathalos just roflstomps gore magala armor due to poor fire res. it happened in 4u for me as well. Elemental defence matters and i think to the magala armor as a reminder of this, tempered stygian zinogre hurts fatalis armor but alatreon armor is decently fine against it as another example i've personally experienced. but i can agree your first zamtrios hunt is always a hard one sucks that rise brought zamites in but not zamtrios itself dude would've been fuun. also fun fact a mr 1 person can access other people's expeditions. you can take a mr 1 person to fight primordial malzeno due to this. also you can have rajang invade someone else's investigations in world as well so you can do a little bit of cheese after i looked at mr requirements in 4u you can as soon as you get to high rank hub fight a powered up kushala on the tower. way before you are supposed to i thinks its fun a skillcheck. i've played these games too much help.

piano as well

Tbh i think it's all very subjective because i kinda struggled to beat primordial malzeno and it took me more than a dozen attempts to kill fatalis

I've always thought putting a snow rajang with insane staggers, 2 shot levels of damage and good mobility in a room full of tinier rajangs as your very first urgent quest was a horrific fate to put players through with like less than 10 hours of playtime, just to.. hit low rank HR2???? 😂...so yeah, Blagonga in MHGU/MHXX as a new player to the franchise is the hardest fight to me period 😌 i might've grown up to solo bully fatalis and alatreon regularly for fun in newer games but I'll NEVER forget how younger me was forever bullied by just a mere low rank urgent quest... good times fellas 😌

All Frontier monster: hold my beer

@cobaltbluestickman5557

Ай бұрын

No, not even true at all.

@theinternetsightseer2935

Ай бұрын

That game has magnet spike, so nope.

Someone of the best music is on primordial malzeno

The moment they announce Thunderthigh Plesioth in Wilds, it will be the end of the world as we know it.

Durambros was my wall, i spent hours trying over n over to slay this beast to get into HR in MH3U

Laughs in Frontier Fatalis

I mean, the stat's of a monster or any boss do effect it's difficulty. If a boss had the hardest moveset in the game but did hardly any damage no matter what so that you could hardly die then it would be harder than a simple boss with a well scaled damage output

@themeekkat

2 ай бұрын

That's true but also consider the stats of the player. Some people play on classic mode and use no spirit birds (150 hp as the series and even rise has been balanced around) Others take the birds. What armor are people using? What weapons? Did they fight immediately after the quest was unlocked? Did they already grind to special invests before fighting a monster that doesn't have a dedicated special investigation? Lots and lots of factors here. That's why moveset and something like monster a.i. tracking is a good thing to look for. Imagine a new player first getting to amatsu and chooses to fight the Hazard version of him first instead of his normal version. That new player is getting rocked because his gear isn't end game gear as the fight was designed for. Pri Mal is more or less balanced around you first getting to him. Hazard a little bit further into the game. Mechanics and A.I. though don't depend on numbers or quest conditions. And the video is about those Mechanics. Imagine fighting a Hazard Pri Mal Special investigation that only spawned 25 minute time limit and 0 faint versions of them. People would call it artificial difficulty all over. There's a reason why you see youtubers like rage gaming going for 4 fainters in say Special investigation Risen Shagaru. They don't want to stomach a harsher quest condition on an already roid raged monster with superior tracking and movesets compared to previous games.

Not sure about hardest, but definitely one of my favourite fights in MH. It tells a story through the way the fight progresses. Amazing fight design for Primordial Mal.

lunagaron was my hero during this fight, prymordial mal had me on the edge and a lunagaron came in and had a turf war with him, giving me time to catch my bearings, luna lost against mal but he basically came in as a clutch, lunagaron the goat.

Honestly, I don’t find Primordial to be the hardest monster in Sunbreak. Risen Valstrax and Shagaru KO my teammates more often.

I always find this discussion interesting because, as a Lance main, I found primordial pretty easy. On the other hand, I found risen shagaru almost impossible

dont forget the hazard primal, faster attack than normal quest IMO

Primordial Malzeno was challenging but in kind of a unfair but yet fair way. Like... I really like the fight. But also it is the second most frustrating one after Gaismagorm (which is just plain annoying, not even hard). I mean I probably should've grinded anomaly missions more but I really don't care much about those so I just went to Palzeno with my barely upgraded gear and it could one-two tap me, so maybe I just made it harder for myself.

Imagine if he was a souls fight, he has a waterfowl dance that’s far more balanced and made for the game for a faster version of a Souls game

I already made the number go up sorry, but my favorite instrument is the guitar :D

I really really REALLY wish P malz was the hardest fight in MH because that would be the first boss fight where it doesn't need to have both big damage and big health on top of the crazy moveset to be hard, it only needs the crazy amazing moveset to be be hard my first interaction with it made me smile for the whole fight, I carted so fast the first time, I carted decently fast the 2nd time, I focused and reached 2nd phase and carted and I was SO excited because that was only the start of phase 2!! I have no idea if that was the final phase or not but this fight gave me fatalis and alatreon vibes um... I beat it 2nd try with no carts and I hate that happened so soon while yes he has a 16 hit combo they are not all guaranteed to hit usually 1 or non hit me and I wirefall out of it if I got it once so imo P malz is a lot easier than risen val and shaggy BUT he is one of my fav fights in the whole series and I think if we had a fight where he is always on phase 3 and have a smaller opening he would be my fav monster of all time I was something stupidly hard and feels impossible fatalis was that for me in iceborne took 3 months to beat it (I was really bad at the game yes and I am not saying I want to take 3 months to beat a monster even that I am a lot better as a hunter but sometimes that would take hours to beat would satisfy me) I have a love hate relationship with rise, it gave us so many cool moments but I can't help but I can imagine how much triumph and glory I would have felt if we weren't as OP and didn't have the wirefall and the skills were balanced which is what MH is for me a hunter who fights tooth and nail, gains experience and it all ends with a fight against an absolute demon of a beast and against all odds the hunter comes out victorious at the end (of course I will do that hunt like hundreds of times after but that moment is where the adventure and story ends for me and I just play it to have fun if you get what I mean)

Saxophone is my second favorite, and the piano is just too versatile to not be #1

This MF killed me 5 f**king times and after 2 WHOLE DAYS of training and non-stop grinding I beat him..... BARELY

The way i would try to rate each monsters difficulty is depending on how high they make these stats Movement speed Attack speed Attack cool down Punish window length Damage HP Status conditions Unique mechanics I think these stats are a good way to measure monster difficulty.

6:53 That monster for me was fish hips in MHGU

In my opinion, there are other bosses that are way harder than primordial malzeno, like amatsu, chaotic gore magala, shagaru magala...with primordial malzeno all you have to do is dodge/block/counter his attacks and memorize his attack patterns on last phase

@extremkaijuu9314

2 ай бұрын

Amatsu is honestly a joke ..

i would disagree on stat inflation being artificial difficulty sure it can be the case but also not necessarily depends on the fine tuning of said numbers in the context of the game imho

Nergigiante... i understand your old suffering from this monster

cello. my favorite instrument is cello.

My favorite instrument is the Saxophone. 🎷 It's my instrument of choice for flexing against my opponents.

Primordial Malz is to MHR:SB, what Fatalis is to MHW:IB. Hard to tell, but the peak of MonHun base combat is Fatalis.

damn it, so my hardest monster is GYPCEROS? i refuse that! lol but i would argue that Primordial, IB Fatalis and AT Velk is around the same level in term of difficulty depend on weapon match up

Did you fight Fatalis ? I thing if you look at streamers or youtubers how they fighting Fatalis its like 3+ hours / multiple streams ect Even for me it was 3 days (4h) . I dont think that somebody spends that mutch time to try kill Primordial.(Sorry for bad english).

@RabiRabii-fp1ft

2 ай бұрын

Depend on well they good at the game. Fatalis and Primo Malzeno is easy for some people and vice versa. Well people can still speed run those monster so they are on the same page lmfao

@jeronym894

2 ай бұрын

@@RabiRabii-fp1ft IDeVaste one of the best players in MHW (speedruner) took him 3h to beat him. They are not same page.

@jcc4543

2 ай бұрын

​@@RabiRabii-fp1ft sorry but even pro players took hours to kill fatty. I killed primordial with lbg rapid fire element diew twice first hunting him.

@GRstriffe

2 ай бұрын

​@@jeronym894 yeah and it took 6 mins to drakside team to beat fatalis.

@jeronym894

2 ай бұрын

@@GRstriffe yeah and ELIXIR MH beat him in 1min 59sec 🤷‍♀

Even if I manage to avoid carting the entire hunt (which is rare), successfully killing primordial malzeno feels more like luck than skill. I hunt primarily online and there always someone that gets caught in one of primordial's Nova's. And he has like 3. Risen valstrax is easier than primordial malzeno. And that's insane because risen valstrax fells like you tried to challenge Goku himself

Haha my wall was Kecha Wacha in 4U he made me quit for a while till I finally got gud

Primal Malz doesn’t hold a candle to fatalis or even Alatreon Even if we ignore that IB fatalis combos you out easily in maxed defense (i.e. full upgraded, def 7, fire res 3) and Primordial Malz becomes a pushover with better set (e.g. his own) - Primal malz is rough, but he’s not IB fatalis rough Maybe IB Rajang tier - Still not easy (unlike a first area monster like Zamtrios) but nowhere near the worst (esp if you bother to slot dragon res and defense)

So my hardest monster was Lagiacrus :3

*Laughs in Redirection parries*

mine is the trumpet lol

tbh you can cheese primordial with heaven sent db

Risen val and risen shaggy is hard to be honest

When i did Primordial Malzeno in the story he was super easy so i imediatly went to the Advanced version on the forlon arena and... he was still very easy, Nothing in Sunbreak came close to the difficulty of Alatreon, Fatalis or some Arch Tempered Elders... i probably just got much better at monhun overall, but figuring out wich attacks were safe to counter was actually cool.

@Hooy-Jaymay

2 ай бұрын

Alatreon and Fatalis are difficult because they purposefully go against the traditional hunting system, were Malzeno to have a shorter time limit or DPS check, he'd be viewed as much harder

@maverickckj

2 ай бұрын

Nah I was able to solo Hazard Malzeno but I still cant solo Fatalis or Alatreon in iceborne. Its not your skill that got better, its just Primordial is not as hard compared to Fatalis or Alatreon.

@MistaFinni

2 ай бұрын

​@maverickckj adversely, my friend 1st tried Fatalis and then spent 10 hours trying to be Primordial.

Primordial Malzeno might have been the hardest monster in Monster Hunter if he was in any game other than Rise/Sunbreak. This is because of the sheer amount of BS we have as hunters in Sunbreak which makes all monsters easier than they truly are. Personally, it took me multiple hours of grinding to solo World's end game bosses Alatreon, Fatalis, and AT Velkhana, but i was able to solo Primordial Malzeno from first try. This is definitely not a coincidence. Rise/Sunbreak mechanics are just too forgiving.

@user-db1oe9mc2h

2 ай бұрын

You should look up Ryukishi's comparison videos of Iceborne and Sunbreak. It really does show the changes.

my fav instrument is the horn, the one you can hunt with, to be specific. What about yours? Btw, i did make your number go up by AT LEAST 1, so there's that. GL!

Mine is Violin, that is why I felt almost abducted by Lindsey Stirling when I discovered "Shadows" on YT. BTW I not only did pause, I needed to rewind and slowly forward pause ni 2 attempts.